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Who is telling the truth, Boris says he is making good progress with a deal, but the EU say no progress is being made.
I think the EU are telling the truth as would not trust Boris Johnson as far as I could throw him. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Well one has been sacked twice for lying and possibly on Tuesday it may be shown that he has also lied to the monarch.. "
Unfortunately, I think that this will been seen to be an irrelevance as the Supreme Court is likely to say that the law cannot usurp lawful Parliamentary process and the Privvy Council makes its own decisions on its own grounds.
The best that can be hoped for is that somehow it will come to light that Johnson did lie to Parliament and lied to the public (again). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Only if it’s shrugged off as some kind of normality.
I know you have tongue in cheek but it upsets me that politics are being hijacked by liars, cheats, self-seeking and gratifying products of the English private school system who’s sense of entitlement and greed is festering Westminster and seeping into the psyche of the UK as a whole.
What was ‘great’ about the UK, if it ever indeed was there, has gone. The UK is a laughing stock, particularly England it has to be said in all truthfulness, from Europe to the Antipodes. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"Only if it’s shrugged off as some kind of normality.
I know you have tongue in cheek but it upsets me that politics are being hijacked by liars, cheats, self-seeking and gratifying products of the English private school system who’s sense of entitlement and greed is festering Westminster and seeping into the psyche of the UK as a whole.
What was ‘great’ about the UK, if it ever indeed was there, has gone. The UK is a laughing stock, particularly England it has to be said in all truthfulness, from Europe to the Antipodes. "
Remind me again how much Blair, corbyn and mcdonnell are worth |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Only if it’s shrugged off as some kind of normality.
I know you have tongue in cheek but it upsets me that politics are being hijacked by liars, cheats, self-seeking and gratifying products of the English private school system who’s sense of entitlement and greed is festering Westminster and seeping into the psyche of the UK as a whole.
What was ‘great’ about the UK, if it ever indeed was there, has gone. The UK is a laughing stock, particularly England it has to be said in all truthfulness, from Europe to the Antipodes.
Remind me again how much Blair, corbyn and mcdonnell are worth"
Blair falls in to the above group.
I can’t tell you the answer to the other two as there’s so little reported truthfully to go on. I suspect a whole lot better than portrayed and certainly better than Mr Johnson. |
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There will be a deal but EU have to be seen to not be backing down. 27 countries can't be seen to be dictated to by the UK. It's now all about how the deal is presented rather than the content of the deal.
EU will maintain a hard line on progress until 17/18 October summitt when all will be revealed and EU seen as the benevolent party acting in the best interest of the 27. The detail will be lost in the euphoria of the deal. |
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"Only if it’s shrugged off as some kind of normality.
I know you have tongue in cheek but it upsets me that politics are being hijacked by liars, cheats, self-seeking and gratifying products of the English private school system who’s sense of entitlement and greed is festering Westminster and seeping into the psyche of the UK as a whole.
What was ‘great’ about the UK, if it ever indeed was there, has gone. The UK is a laughing stock, particularly England it has to be said in all truthfulness, from Europe to the Antipodes.
Remind me again how much Blair, corbyn and mcdonnell are worth"
the three not so wise monkeys |
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"If the question is ,,,, is Johnson telling the truth ,, or is someone else telling the truth ? ,, my money will go on the someone else "
If you asked Johnson what time it was, he'd look at his watch then tell you a lie... |
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Apparently the EU have not been provided with any written proposal from the UK. I would expect to have at least have provided a written outline of our definite proposal, to even be able to say that we've made a small amount of progress.
Boris is a first class liar. This is no different - he is playing you |
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"Only if it’s shrugged off as some kind of normality.
I know you have tongue in cheek but it upsets me that politics are being hijacked by liars, cheats, self-seeking and gratifying products of the English private school system who’s sense of entitlement and greed is festering Westminster and seeping into the psyche of the UK as a whole.
What was ‘great’ about the UK, if it ever indeed was there, has gone. The UK is a laughing stock, particularly England it has to be said in all truthfulness, from Europe to the Antipodes.
Remind me again how much Blair, corbyn and mcdonnell are worth"
 THIS!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That’s the malaise. Instead of calling people out, it’s ‘oh but they’re worse’. Doesn’t matter. It is tacit support for a bunch of people completely unworthy of representing the voters. And the UK complain about the result?...... |
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By *ky19Man
over a year ago
Plymouth OYO Hotel |
Backstabbing Boris is lying to our faces.
As time goes on, the small amount of benefit of the doubt I had is evaporating.
He is PRETENDING to want to leave but he has no intention of doing so. He wants leavers' votes or whatever, then at the last minute he will stab in the back.
Watch this space. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
Johnson's tone has changed since Parliament boxed him in and made it illegal to leave without an agreement.
Before then, he gave the impression of being blase about how the UK left.
Now all you hear about is the efforts he is making to leave with an agreement.
He has trapped himself in a corner and has only one way out.
That said, it is one thing to come back from Brussels with an agreement. As Mrs May found out, it is quite another thing to get it through the Commons. |
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"Isn't lying a pre-requisite to becoming a MP?"
Last week or week before when rees-mogg was stretched out on the front bench..
Times had a cartoon of him recreating his pose and the catch phrase "I'm not the only one lying on the front bench" |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"It’s actually being reported by the other side.
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That is what Johnson will be telling them.
To create the impression he can leave without an agreement.
I'd be inclined to think he is trying to call their bluff. |
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"It’s actually being reported by the other side.
That is what Johnson will be telling them.
To create the impression he can leave without an agreement.
I'd be inclined to think he is trying to call their bluff."
Don’t think so ... it’s come from an anti brexit barrister who has also noted that MPs would need to take counter measures to prevent it.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
are we going to war with luxembourg now.... they made our PM look really weak!!!
i mean... their PM was big and brave enough to have the press conference outside... why wasn't ours!
actually.. its a plain speaking as i have seen a head politician... loved it!!!! 
I think that puts all the "chicken" talk to rest for a bit..... |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
Huddersfield /derby cinemas |
"are we going to war with luxembourg now.... they made our PM look really weak!!!
i mean... their PM was big and brave enough to have the press conference outside... why wasn't ours!
actually.. its a plain speaking as i have seen a head politician... loved it!!!!
I think that puts all the "chicken" talk to rest for a bit....."
. I have mentioned on another thread , the reaction of the Luxembourg PM was either a one-off or the first real public sign that the EU are really getting annoyed with the U.K. , and , if as I suspect it may be the latter , the notion of them needing us more than we need them is a long and distant dream |
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