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over a year ago
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So, in short, HS2 will link the city centres of London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Nottingham, Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Newcastle upon Tyne.
Who exactly will HS2 be competing with?
Who will benefit?
Will it take freight off the roads?
Since articulated trucks with dirty, nasty diesel engines are effectively banned from the very centres of most cities, I can't see HS2 carrying much freight.
And since no matter how fast the railway will be, I can't see it being quicker or cheaper to take HS2 from Edinburgh to London than to fly? (Check out cheap flight prices)
Therefore, I suspect that HS2 will be competing primarily against MegaBus. |
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It will presumably get state subsidy, like the other rail franchise businesses. It will have some competition but it will probably be rigged, perhaps by making other services slower.
It's probably the wrong solution and it also adds to the problem of an over-complex fragmented system. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"So, in short, HS2 will link the city centres of London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Nottingham, Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Newcastle upon Tyne.
Who exactly will HS2 be competing with?
Who will benefit?
Will it take freight off the roads?
Since articulated trucks with dirty, nasty diesel engines are effectively banned from the very centres of most cities, I can't see HS2 carrying much freight.
And since no matter how fast the railway will be, I can't see it being quicker or cheaper to take HS2 from Edinburgh to London than to fly? (Check out cheap flight prices)
Therefore, I suspect that HS2 will be competing primarily against MegaBus."
HS2 goes nowhere near Nottingham City centre. The terminal is at Toton, some 8 miles to the West. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So, in short, HS2 will link the city centres of London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Nottingham, Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Newcastle upon Tyne.
Who exactly will HS2 be competing with?
Who will benefit?
Will it take freight off the roads?
Since articulated trucks with dirty, nasty diesel engines are effectively banned from the very centres of most cities, I can't see HS2 carrying much freight.
And since no matter how fast the railway will be, I can't see it being quicker or cheaper to take HS2 from Edinburgh to London than to fly? (Check out cheap flight prices)
Therefore, I suspect that HS2 will be competing primarily against MegaBus.
HS2 goes nowhere near Nottingham City centre. The terminal is at Toton, some 8 miles to the West. "
Oh okay, so west of Nottingham, dual purpose station then, Nottingham AND Derby? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"it will be scrapped "
I agree. It's about time they scrapped Nottingham. Shit hole. Gun capital. And home to far too many speed cameras.
Scrap Nottingham - problem solved. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So, in short, HS2 will link the city centres of London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Nottingham, Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Newcastle upon Tyne.
Who exactly will HS2 be competing with?
Who will benefit?
Will it take freight off the roads?
Since articulated trucks with dirty, nasty diesel engines are effectively banned from the very centres of most cities, I can't see HS2 carrying much freight.
And since no matter how fast the railway will be, I can't see it being quicker or cheaper to take HS2 from Edinburgh to London than to fly? (Check out cheap flight prices)
Therefore, I suspect that HS2 will be competing primarily against MegaBus.
HS2 goes nowhere near Nottingham City centre. The terminal is at Toton, some 8 miles to the West. "
So, it will be sort of close to the tank testing range then? |
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The Great Central line, North from London, was engineered to continental standards in late Victorian times. They actually anticipated a channel tunnel would be built, but not as long ahead as it turned out.
Dr Beeching (now rotting in hell, hopefully) decided to junk the line. The route is still large unchanged - in fact near Leicester a heritage railway uses the track, and near London some of it is still in use.
Cancel HS2, re-open the Great Centra and save billionsl. Ok, it misses out Brum, but who wants to go there?  |
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"The Great Central line, North from London, was engineered to continental standards in late Victorian times. They actually anticipated a channel tunnel would be built, but not as long ahead as it turned out.
Dr Beeching (now rotting in hell, hopefully) decided to junk the line. The route is still large unchanged - in fact near Leicester a heritage railway uses the track, and near London some of it is still in use.
Cancel HS2, re-open the Great Centra and save billionsl. Ok, it misses out Brum, but who wants to go there? "
After reopening the Grand Central, can we make it a freight accessible line which links by track with a channel port? |
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"The Great Central line, North from London, was engineered to continental standards in late Victorian times. They actually anticipated a channel tunnel would be built, but not as long ahead as it turned out.
Dr Beeching (now rotting in hell, hopefully) decided to junk the line. The route is still large unchanged - in fact near Leicester a heritage railway uses the track, and near London some of it is still in use.
Cancel HS2, re-open the Great Centra and save billionsl. Ok, it misses out Brum, but who wants to go there? "
And re-opening Manchester-Sheffield via Woodhead would be a good idea too. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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There's plenty of branch lines that could be reopened, to give better railway connections.
The world has moved on since Beeching. What were small communities are now larger, and need better transport options. |
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