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Will Boris Johnson be impeached?
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"Send him north of the wall in the service of Nicola." can you send Emily thornberry aswell bob did you see her on question time last night I fell of me sofa jaw on the flaw we have the worst group of politians in modern history you just can’t help but laugh or you would sobbbb | |||
"Send him north of the wall in the service of Nicola. can you send Emily thornberry aswell bob did you see her on question time last night I fell of me sofa jaw on the flaw we have the worst group of politians in modern history you just can’t help but laugh or you would sobbbb " I have the same number of times a day as I hear bojo | |||
"Send him north of the wall in the service of Nicola. can you send Emily thornberry aswell bob did you see her on question time last night I fell of me sofa jaw on the flaw we have the worst group of politians in modern history you just can’t help but laugh or you would sobbbb I have the same number of times a day as I hear bojo "I’m the same cited labour all my life but that was the worst showing on question time iv seen I went red in the face for her labour need to ban her from tv and radio it’s political suicide | |||
"He could be ordered to wear a full-face burqua for a year. "Oh good....at least we wouldnt have to look at his pie face for a while then....although those piggy little eyes would still be gloaming away like a toad under a rock | |||
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"Send him north of the wall in the service of Nicola. can you send Emily thornberry aswell bob did you see her on question time last night I fell of me sofa jaw on the flaw we have the worst group of politians in modern history you just can’t help but laugh or you would sobbbb I have the same number of times a day as I hear bojo I’m the same cited labour all my life but that was the worst showing on question time iv seen I went red in the face for her labour need to ban her from tv and radio it’s political suicide "That's ok, I haven't seen it but if you say so maybe she should join him. | |||
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"Send him to Liverpool and give him a pitch where he can sell the big issue.. " I would of thought selling the sun would get a better reaction..He’s really popular on Merseyside. | |||
"The Lady or Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod cannot arrest Boris. Black Rod is a senior officer in the House of LORDS, responsible for controlling access to and maintaining order within the House and its precincts." The House of Commons Library has a useful briefing paper on impeachment. Accessible via the Parliament website. The process is laid out in the 1844 edition of Erskine May: "It rests, therefore, with the House of Commons to determine when an impeachment should be instituted. A member, in his place, first charges the accused of high treason or of certain high crimes and misdemeanours, and after supporting his charge with proofs, moves that he be impeached. "If the house deem the grounds of accusation sufficient, and agree to the motion, the member is ordered to go to the lords, “and at their bar, in the name of the House of Commons, and of all the commons of the United Kingdom, to impeach the accused; and to acquaint them that this house will, in due time, exhibit particular articles against him, and make good the same.” "The member accompanied by several others, proceeds to the bar of the House of Lords, and impeaches the accused accordingly." The next steps of the ancient procedure, including the trial, are outlined in the report of the Joint Committee on Parliamentary Privilege in 1998-99, which is based on the descriptions in early editions of Erskine May: "A Commons committee is then appointed to draw up articles of impeachment which are debated. When agreed they are ingrossed and delivered to the Lords. "The Lords obtain written answers from the accused which are communicated to the Commons. The Commons may then communicate a reply to the Lords. "If the accused is a peer, he is attached by order of that House. If a commoner, he is arrested by the Commons and delivered to Black Rod. The Lords may release the accused on bail. The Commons appoints ‘managers’ for the trial to prepare the evidence; but it is the Lords that summons witnesses. "The accused may have summonses issued for the attendance of witnesses on his behalf, and is entitled to defence by counsel. When the case, including examination and re-examination, is concluded, the Lord High Steward puts to each peer, (beginning with the junior baron) the question on the first of the charges: then to each peer the question on the second charge and so on. If found guilty, judgment is not pronounced unless and until demanded by the Commons (which may, at this stage, pardon the accused). "An impeachment may continue from session to session, or over a dissolution. Under the Act of Settlement the sovereign has no right of pardon." I misread the bit about Black Rod. Someone else arrests the PM and delivers him to Black Rod. | |||
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"I cant even joke about this kind of stuff, I think he should be dragged out of the building for just saying it, and if he followed through then I think the death penalty should be put on the table. How can the UK function with this as a precedent. Imagine every UK prime minister from now on, just totally ignoring laws and the system. There are people in jail for making mistakes in the fog of war, people were shot for making deliberate mistakes, and ignoring the system? how many people were put on their knees and had a bullet in the back of the head for that? I have armed forces training, it just fills me with rage that he is so flippant about the system, and that he could actually follow through. This isnt a fog of war moment, he is lucid, he is clear thinking, he has processed the information, he is deciding. How can the UK function if every prime minister from now on does the same, just ignores the balance and checks, just ignores their legal duty, openly says they wont do it. Anyway, his fans might eat it up, but personally, I think its disgusting." What’s he done that warrants this rant? | |||
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"Johnson says he would "die in a ditch" before he signs a letter to the EU requesting an Article 50 extension. (He also promised to lie in front of the Heathrow bulldozers, but let's leave that there.) So let's say Parliament keeps him in office so he can keep up this pretence of negotiation with the EU. Come October 19, there is no agreement and the law requires him to sign the prepared letter. Will he resign or defy the law? No Prime Minister has ever been impeached. I believe the last impeachment was 1806. Johnson, the leader of the "law and order party", arrested by Black Rod, and hauled before a committee to answer for his crime. Delicious! What should his punishment be? " Hang him by the willy and spank him until his flaccid arse becomes purple | |||
"The chances of impeachment are exactly zero. This the response to an FOI request about impeachment. Essentially the process is obsolete. " So what do you do with a PM who refuses to obey the law, other than pass a vote of "no confidence"? | |||
"The chances of impeachment are exactly zero. This the response to an FOI request about impeachment. Essentially the process is obsolete. So what do you do with a PM who refuses to obey the law, other than pass a vote of "no confidence"? " Do you think he will not obey the law? Really? Hesterics and outrage at something that hasn’t happened | |||
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"Have they had the Third Reading of the bill yet ??" Lords finished with it ... returns to commons on Monday... Watch this space .... | |||
"Strip him of his citizenship and banish him from the kingdom.. "It is a good warning against allowing the offspring of immigrants into power. Good call Bob.  | |||
 what happens then if they crash us out is that theory possible.... | |||
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"What happens if Boris goes to the EU asks for a deal on his terms, the EU refuse and Boris says OK if you can't give us the deal we want, we would like an extension but if you give us an extension you must pay us for the privilege, they say no what happens then if they crash us out is that theory possible.... "It's believe it is possible for the EU to deny a new extension, and crash the UK out. This would place the UK in a no-deal scenario. It also would not affect the GFA, the UK would still need to sort out the border issue, however their timeline for fixing it would be dramatically shorter. In theory the EU could start to actually build check points on the border and it is still the fault of the UK. | |||
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"Am I the only one baffled by people blaming the Labour Party for the policy failures of the Conservative Party? " All parties in the now defunct and worthless House of Commons are to blame. A plague on all of them | |||
"Send him to Liverpool and give him a pitch where he can sell the big issue.. " Edit; The Sun. | |||
"Am I the only one baffled by people blaming the Labour Party for the policy failures of the Conservative Party? All parties in the now defunct and worthless House of Commons are to blame. A plague on all of them" To blame for what? | |||
"Am I missing something? What law has he broken, or lie comitted, as PM?" "They just passed a law that would force me to beg Brussels for an extension to the Brexit deadline. This is something I will never do." - Boris Johnson, in a letter to Conservative Party members | |||
"Am I missing something? What law has he broken, or lie comitted, as PM? "They just passed a law that would force me to beg Brussels for an extension to the Brexit deadline. This is something I will never do." - Boris Johnson, in a letter to Conservative Party members" Boris says a lot of things. Most of them turn out to be bullshit. Hence the "lies" thing. | |||
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"Am I the only one baffled by people blaming the Labour Party for the policy failures of the Conservative Party? All parties in the now defunct and worthless House of Commons are to blame. A plague on all of them To blame for what? " Not delivering on a democratic vote. The majority of the British people rightly or wrongly voted leave and leave we must go. Be that with a deal or not. | |||
"Given that the Opposition has outsmarted Johnson at every turn so far, I'm sure they will thought through what to do if he disobeys the law. Some talk this morning of a legal team already preparing papers for a court case. The alternative would be a no-confidence vote, followed immediately by installing someone like Ken Clarke as PM to sign the letter, before he asks Parliament for a GE. The official opposition relied on the other parties to outsmart him. Corbyn like Johnson cant do anything without support from other parties " | |||
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"Am I the only one baffled by people blaming the Labour Party for the policy failures of the Conservative Party? All parties in the now defunct and worthless House of Commons are to blame. A plague on all of them To blame for what? Not delivering on a democratic vote. The majority of the British people rightly or wrongly voted leave and leave we must go. Be that with a deal or not. " Couple of points. They are delivering brexit. A minority voted to leave. | |||
"Am I missing something? What law has he broken, or lie comitted, as PM? "They just passed a law that would force me to beg Brussels for an extension to the Brexit deadline. This is something I will never do." - Boris Johnson, in a letter to Conservative Party members" What law HAS he broken as PM. Plus he can ask for an extension, that isn't begging  | |||
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" To blame for what? Not delivering on a democratic vote. The majority of the British people rightly or wrongly voted leave and leave we must go. Be that with a deal or not. " The current mandate in Parliament is from the 2017 General Election. All parties stood on a different ticket when it came to Brexit. The Conservative Party won the most seats with its flavour of Brexit and has been trying ever since to force through its particular version. It could have reached a consensus with other parties whose manifestos aligned in principle with its own. It sought consensus only with one - the DUP. And given the DUP's extreme ideology, that was only ever going to alienate everyone else in Parliament. | |||
"Am I the only one baffled by people blaming the Labour Party for the policy failures of the Conservative Party? " . In their 2015 manifesto the conservative party said they would hold a referendum if they won the election , the Conservative party won the election , the Conservative party held a referendum , leave won ,, the Conservative party's claim was that the had a "long term economic plan" and their leader said he would stay on and lead the country , the Conservative party apparently had no plan for leave winning and the conservative pm announced his resignation , the Conservative party held a vote for a new leader who was sent to get a deal , the conservative leader said we won't have another general election , then called a general election ,which the Conservative party won and with money from the magic money tree formed a coalition with the DUP , the Conservative party got a deal but this was voted against by conservative MPs ( although some voted against against then for ) , despite telling the nation another referendum was undemocratic because we had already had a vote , conservative MPs wanted another vote for their leader ( although they had already had one ), the Conservative party had another vote for leader , a leading brexitier became conservative leader and PM , the new conservative leader then sacked the conservative MPs who had been voting to leave the EU , the new conservative leader had also voted for the deal which he doesn't like and had previously voted against the deal but is still of the opinion that it would be undemocratic for people or the country to have the opportunity to change their minds | |||
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"Let's all remember one thing. This mess lies with Cameron and his Lib Dem whore Clegg. Shame on anybody who votes for either party at the next General Election" So should we all vote labour or green ?? | |||
"Let's all remember one thing. This mess lies with Cameron and his Lib Dem whore Clegg. Shame on anybody who votes for either party at the next General Election" What's Clegg got to do with this? | |||
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"And unable to contest his seat in the GE that would follow inevitably! "Could hr still be pm? Running the country from a cell in wormwood scrubs | |||
"Let's all remember one thing. This mess lies with Cameron and his Lib Dem whore Clegg. Shame on anybody who votes for either party at the next General Election" Fuck all to do with the lib Dems | |||
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"Am I the only one baffled by people blaming the Labour Party for the policy failures of the Conservative Party? All parties in the now defunct and worthless House of Commons are to blame. A plague on all of them To blame for what? Not delivering on a democratic vote. The majority of the British people rightly or wrongly voted leave and leave we must go. Be that with a deal or not. " The conservative party held the referendum and officially it was for a negotiated deal exit or to remain. It was explicitly campaigned for and clarified, that the UK would only leave with a deal. Leaving without a deal was excluded, so it was not voted for. Thus it is not democracy, if leaving without a deal. | |||
"Am I the only one baffled by people blaming the Labour Party for the policy failures of the Conservative Party? All parties in the now defunct and worthless House of Commons are to blame. A plague on all of them To blame for what? Not delivering on a democratic vote. The majority of the British people rightly or wrongly voted leave and leave we must go. Be that with a deal or not. The conservative party held the referendum and officially it was for a negotiated deal exit or to remain. It was explicitly campaigned for and clarified, that the UK would only leave with a deal. Leaving without a deal was excluded, so it was not voted for. Thus it is not democracy, if leaving without a deal. " | |||
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"Should he get put into the stocks in public, as well as prison, if he breaks the law by not seeking an extension or negoiating amendments in time? Would be good to have him inside one of the worst prisons. "I bet there's some archaic law from the middle ages where he should be put in the stocks and pelted with rancid tomatoes and the like | |||
"Should he get put into the stocks in public, as well as prison, if he breaks the law by not seeking an extension or negoiating amendments in time? Would be good to have him inside one of the worst prisons. "The prison from A Prayer Before Dawn would be good. Could make a reality TV show out of it. | |||
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Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy. | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy."Thats your opinion of brexit which is fine, millions think differently and should all liars be in prison ? | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy."And the general public are stupid ... | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ..."And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed"They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist. | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed"Depends what you define as old. I’m sure there are more than 17 million old people | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist."Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell "I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned. How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what? | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell
I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned.
How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what? "Who has been conned of course, you dont think youve been conned neither do I | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell
I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned.
How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what?
Who has been conned of course, you dont think youve been conned neither do I "I mean, I haven't been conned because I haven't listened to the rhetoric from either side. I've looked at the information and made the choice for what's best for the country. We're not seriously considering the possibility that Brexit is a success are we? | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell
I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned.
How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what?
Who has been conned of course, you dont think youve been conned neither do I
I mean, I haven't been conned because I haven't listened to the rhetoric from either side. I've looked at the information and made the choice for what's best for the country.
We're not seriously considering the possibility that Brexit is a success are we?"IN YOUR OPINION but that doesnt mean youre right, others are entitled to a different one and 17 million have | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell
I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned.
How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what?
Who has been conned of course, you dont think youve been conned neither do I
I mean, I haven't been conned because I haven't listened to the rhetoric from either side. I've looked at the information and made the choice for what's best for the country.
We're not seriously considering the possibility that Brexit is a success are we?
IN YOUR OPINION but that doesnt mean youre right, others are entitled to a different one and 17 million have"It's nothing to do with opinion. That's the problem. Facts opinions. | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
Thats your opinion of brexit which is fine, millions think differently and should all liars be in prison ?"Do you understand what the function of a public figure, the minister of the country in this case is. I do not think so . | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell
I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned.
How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what?
Who has been conned of course, you dont think youve been conned neither do I
I mean, I haven't been conned because I haven't listened to the rhetoric from either side. I've looked at the information and made the choice for what's best for the country.
We're not seriously considering the possibility that Brexit is a success are we?"Where did you get the information from? | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
Thats your opinion of brexit which is fine, millions think differently and should all liars be in prison ?
Do you understand what the function of a public figure, the minister of the country in this case is. I do not think so . "I guess that one T Blair would be in clink too and most other PM's for that matter | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
Thats your opinion of brexit which is fine, millions think differently and should all liars be in prison ?
Do you understand what the function of a public figure, the minister of the country in this case is. I do not think so .
I guess that one T Blair would be in clink too and most other PM's for that matter"Tony Blair should be in prison for being a war criminal. | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell
I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned.
How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what?
Who has been conned of course, you dont think youve been conned neither do I
I mean, I haven't been conned because I haven't listened to the rhetoric from either side. I've looked at the information and made the choice for what's best for the country.
We're not seriously considering the possibility that Brexit is a success are we?
IN YOUR OPINION but that doesnt mean youre right, others are entitled to a different one and 17 million have
It's nothing to do with opinion. That's the problem.
Facts opinions.
"What facts? we havent left yet so no predictions have had a chance to be proven one way or the other. We have had a hundred years of facts that have been recorded via photo/film or voice yet many are argued about due to different interpretation and opinion based on the stand point of the reviewer, an open minded person accepts that there are more than one way of looking at things, a closed mind dismisses others views, often attempting to belittle, NO arguement is black and white there are always good and bad points | |||
"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell
I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned.
How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what?
Who has been conned of course, you dont think youve been conned neither do I
I mean, I haven't been conned because I haven't listened to the rhetoric from either side. I've looked at the information and made the choice for what's best for the country.
We're not seriously considering the possibility that Brexit is a success are we?
IN YOUR OPINION but that doesnt mean youre right, others are entitled to a different one and 17 million have
It's nothing to do with opinion. That's the problem.
Facts opinions.
What facts? we havent left yet so no predictions have had a chance to be proven one way or the other.
We have had a hundred years of facts that have been recorded via photo/film or voice yet many are argued about due to different interpretation and opinion based on the stand point of the reviewer, an open minded person accepts that there are more than one way of looking at things, a closed mind dismisses others views, often attempting to belittle, NO arguement is black and white there are always good and bad points"Indeed. But we are already wasting billions of pounds a month on this nonsence. And no one has been able to come up with any potential benefits to leaving. People come up with ideologies based on misconceptions about the EU, that were propagated by the right wing media. The only people who will do well are those who wish to continue avoiding paying taxes and those rich enough to play the currency markets. On the other hand there is a list of known negatives to leaving as long as your arm. | |||
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"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
Johnson is a professional liar. Brexit is crazy.
And the general public are stupid ...
And 17 million are old and racist if some are to be believed
They were easily conned. Not because they're old or racist.
Just thick then, of course it could be remainers who have been conned, only time will tell
I didn't say "thick". There could be a multitude of reasons that people are easily conned.
How would remainers have been conned, by who? Time will tell what?
Who has been conned of course, you dont think youve been conned neither do I
I mean, I haven't been conned because I haven't listened to the rhetoric from either side. I've looked at the information and made the choice for what's best for the country.
We're not seriously considering the possibility that Brexit is a success are we?
IN YOUR OPINION but that doesnt mean youre right, others are entitled to a different one and 17 million have
It's nothing to do with opinion. That's the problem.
Facts opinions.
What facts? we havent left yet so no predictions have had a chance to be proven one way or the other.
We have had a hundred years of facts that have been recorded via photo/film or voice yet many are argued about due to different interpretation and opinion based on the stand point of the reviewer, an open minded person accepts that there are more than one way of looking at things, a closed mind dismisses others views, often attempting to belittle, NO arguement is black and white there are always good and bad points"You surely still can’t be so blinkered? Where are the leaked memo’s about how good it is going to be? Why is the Govt spending £billions in preparations with slush funds to “help” affected businesses? Why do other countries think we are a bit dim for wanting to leave the largest and most successful political and economic union in the world? Why does Trump and Putin want us to leave? Why is the GBP crashing? Why is GDP down so significantly since June 2016? Where are the serious peer reviewed positive economic outlooks that demonstrate the UK thriving post-Brexit? What is it then? Is it the Brexiters who call up various Talk Radio stations every day and talk about how things should be - but are singularly unable to articulate one solitary and factual benefit? This is where we are now - fighting “feelings” with facts and those with feelings get all offended and angry when their feelings get schooled with facts. How completely fucking bonkers is that! | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? " It has to become law yet and that only happens when the queen gives it royal assent, she on advice from the government refused three times during Blair's government, if this government recommends she refuses she will follow convention and the bill dies, this will cause a huge row, which of course corbyn can avoid by agreeing to the election he kept saying he wanted but now is too chicken to have | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? " Unrest?? Why would a discussion about the future relationship with our closest friends and trading partners result in “unrest”? This is where some Brexiters have completely lost the plot. Why not have “unrest” about ten years worth of austerity, starvation of funds to schools, Police and the NHS? Why not have unrest about increasing poverty and homelessness? Why not just get angry about things that are actually really important rather than a relationship with other countries that barely touches our individual lives but which helps with regulations and trade? | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? It has to become law yet and that only happens when the queen gives it royal assent, she on advice from the government refused three times during Blair's government, if this government recommends she refuses she will follow convention and the bill dies, this will cause a huge row, which of course corbyn can avoid by agreeing to the election he kept saying he wanted but now is too chicken to have" Was Blair around in 1707 or have you been reading conspiracy crap? For the record - Parliamentary own website: https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/royal-assent/ | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? Unrest?? Why would a discussion about the future relationship with our closest friends and trading partners result in “unrest”? This is where some Brexiters have completely lost the plot. Why not have “unrest” about ten years worth of austerity, starvation of funds to schools, Police and the NHS? Why not have unrest about increasing poverty and homelessness? Why not just get angry about things that are actually really important rather than a relationship with other countries that barely touches our individual lives but which helps with regulations and trade? " Because the government was elected to rein in the debt labour ran up so were abiding by their manifesto to do so, both labour and the tories said they would honour the 2016 vote, the tories won and most of them are trying to do so, those that lost both the 2016 vote and the last election,plus a few tories are trying to overturn those democratic decisions | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? It has to become law yet and that only happens when the queen gives it royal assent, she on advice from the government refused three times during Blair's government, if this government recommends she refuses she will follow convention and the bill dies, this will cause a huge row, which of course corbyn can avoid by agreeing to the election he kept saying he wanted but now is too chicken to have Was Blair around in 1707 or have you been reading conspiracy crap? For the record - Parliamentary own website: https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/royal-assent/ " Not read anything just stating that it has been done in the past, there are plenty of twists and turns yet before the fat lady sings | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? It has to become law yet and that only happens when the queen gives it royal assent, she on advice from the government refused three times during Blair's government, if this government recommends she refuses she will follow convention and the bill dies, this will cause a huge row, which of course corbyn can avoid by agreeing to the election he kept saying he wanted but now is too chicken to have Was Blair around in 1707 or have you been reading conspiracy crap? For the record - Parliamentary own website: https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/royal-assent/ Not read anything just stating that it has been done in the past, there are plenty of twists and turns yet before the fat lady sings" So how was it done three times in Blair’s Premiership if it was last done in 1707? | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? Unrest?? Why would a discussion about the future relationship with our closest friends and trading partners result in “unrest”? This is where some Brexiters have completely lost the plot. Why not have “unrest” about ten years worth of austerity, starvation of funds to schools, Police and the NHS? Why not have unrest about increasing poverty and homelessness? Why not just get angry about things that are actually really important rather than a relationship with other countries that barely touches our individual lives but which helps with regulations and trade? Because the government was elected to rein in the debt labour ran up so were abiding by their manifesto to do so, both labour and the tories said they would honour the 2016 vote, the tories won and most of them are trying to do so, those that lost both the 2016 vote and the last election,plus a few tories are trying to overturn those democratic decisions" Here is a basic economics lesson for you. Kind of Elementary level... Money spent in a local economy improves productivity of the Nation. Money stashed by Billionaires and multi nationals for super-yachts and off shore offices doesn’t even nudge the Nations productivity. Austerity was a political choice and the choice was made to squeeze ordinary people. This is the reason that the wealth gap has increased during the period of austerity. Providing the 99% of ordinary people with more money to spend (instead of taking it off them) was an alternative option. That option was not taken even though the Nations productivity would have improved. | |||
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"And a criminal conviction for being in "contempt of Parliament" will also bar him from entry to the United States! "MPs accused of contempt of Parliament may be suspended or expelled. They may also be committed to the clock tower of the Palace of Westminster, although this practice has not been used since Charles Bradlaugh was detained in 1880. Strangers (those who are not members of the House) may be committed to prison during the life of the Parliament. The House of Lords has the power to fine as well as to order imprisonment for a term of years. (This may no longer the case as the Law Lords left when the Supreme Court was created). | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? It has to become law yet and that only happens when the queen gives it royal assent, she on advice from the government refused three times during Blair's government, if this government recommends she refuses she will follow convention and the bill dies, this will cause a huge row, which of course corbyn can avoid by agreeing to the election he kept saying he wanted but now is too chicken to have Was Blair around in 1707 or have you been reading conspiracy crap? For the record - Parliamentary own website: https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/royal-assent/ Not read anything just stating that it has been done in the past, there are plenty of twists and turns yet before the fat lady sings So how was it done three times in Blair’s Premiership if it was last done in 1707?" You’re confusing Queens Assent with the Royal Assent. Queen's Consent and Prince's Consent are distinct from royal assent. Royal assent is granted after a bill has passed through parliament, whereas Queen's Consent and Prince's Consent, where required, are granted before parliament has debated or voted to pass a bill. Royal assent is also required for all legislation, whereas Queen's Consent and Prince's Consent are only required for legislation affecting specific topics. In practice, royal assent is less frequently denied than is Queen's Consent or Prince's Consent. Royal assent forms part of the constitution and lies under the royal prerogative, while Queen's Consent and Prince's Consent are internal parliamentary rules of procedure that could, in principle, be dispensed with by parliament. In 1999, Queen Elizabeth II, acting on the advice of her Cabinet, refused to signify her consent to the Parliament of the United Kingdom debating the Military Action Against Iraq (Parliamentary Approval) Bill, which sought to transfer from the sovereign to parliament the power to authorize military strikes against Iraq. This prevented the bill from being debated. | |||
"No Prime Minister has ever been impeached. I believe the last impeachment was 1806." Surely that is a contradiction 
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"Should he get put into the stocks in public, as well as prison, if he breaks the law by not seeking an extension or negoiating amendments in time? Would be good to have him inside one of the worst prisons. "I hope he gets a cell with Yaxley Lennon. | |||
"No Prime Minister has ever been impeached. I believe the last impeachment was 1806. Surely that is a contradiction
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"I would love to see this lying coward in prison Of course, this will not happen because knowing De Pfeffel Johnson at the last moment will withdraw from what he said about dying in a ditch.
."I've got a shovel. Wanna help me dig his ditch? | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? " Actually in theory yes.... but with the new law in place boris will still have to go get his extension, if he doesn’t/ refuses then the civil service are instructed to carry out the law... so if all ministers refused to do it then sir mark sidwell, as head of the civil service would do it... But if it got to that point I am betting you’d see the vote of no confidence and the national unity government | |||
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""We begin this editorial with an apology to you, our faithful readers. In March, we described the Brexit situation, then careening through its third year and nowhere close to resolution, as an “omnishambles.” "An omnishambles is a state of utter chaos, total disorder and perfect mismanagement – which brings us to our apology. If you’ve been paying any attention to British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, you know that, in declaring United Kingdom politics to have reached peak shambolic six months ago, we spoke too soon. Oh, did we ever. "Because if the Conservative government was making an omnishambles of Brexit back in the spring – a happy era now remembered as a halcyon age of a merely half-hearted appetite for national self-destruction – then what words can adequately describe the scale of Mr. Johnson’s achievements? "Megashambles? Summa cum laude shambles? Tyrannosaurus shambles? The-Chernobyl-reactor-just-exploded-and-the-dosimeter-reads-15,000-roentgen shambles? - Editorial, Toronto Globe and Mail "Somewhat ironic editorial from a country whose Prime Minister got the Governor General to prorogue Parliament so he wouldn’t lose a vote of no confidence in 2008. | |||
"Am I the only one baffled by people blaming the Labour Party for the policy failures of the Conservative Party? " | |||
"Somewhat ironic editorial from a country whose Prime Minister got the Governor General to prorogue Parliament so he wouldn’t lose a vote of no confidence in 2008. " Well they are a five eyes country like the UK. When they are not murdering people in iraq who did nothing on them, they are trying to grab hold of as much power as possible, and blame the rest of the world for any of their problems. But they still got a trade deal done with the EU, so why cant the UK? | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? Unrest?? Why would a discussion about the future relationship with our closest friends and trading partners result in “unrest”? This is where some Brexiters have completely lost the plot. Why not have “unrest” about ten years worth of austerity, starvation of funds to schools, Police and the NHS? Why not have unrest about increasing poverty and homelessness? Why not just get angry about things that are actually really important rather than a relationship with other countries that barely touches our individual lives but which helps with regulations and trade? Because the government was elected to rein in the debt labour ran up so were abiding by their manifesto to do so, both labour and the tories said they would honour the 2016 vote, the tories won and most of them are trying to do so, those that lost both the 2016 vote and the last election,plus a few tories are trying to overturn those democratic decisions Here is a basic economics lesson for you. Kind of Elementary level... Money spent in a local economy improves productivity of the Nation. Money stashed by Billionaires and multi nationals for super-yachts and off shore offices doesn’t even nudge the Nations productivity. Austerity was a political choice and the choice was made to squeeze ordinary people. This is the reason that the wealth gap has increased during the period of austerity. Providing the 99% of ordinary people with more money to spend (instead of taking it off them) was an alternative option. That option was not taken even though the Nations productivity would have improved." Try this even more basic economics, you cant spend money you dont have, labour did and so we have to reduce spending until the budget balances. | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? Unrest?? Why would a discussion about the future relationship with our closest friends and trading partners result in “unrest”? This is where some Brexiters have completely lost the plot. Why not have “unrest” about ten years worth of austerity, starvation of funds to schools, Police and the NHS? Why not have unrest about increasing poverty and homelessness? Why not just get angry about things that are actually really important rather than a relationship with other countries that barely touches our individual lives but which helps with regulations and trade? Because the government was elected to rein in the debt labour ran up so were abiding by their manifesto to do so, both labour and the tories said they would honour the 2016 vote, the tories won and most of them are trying to do so, those that lost both the 2016 vote and the last election,plus a few tories are trying to overturn those democratic decisions Here is a basic economics lesson for you. Kind of Elementary level... Money spent in a local economy improves productivity of the Nation. Money stashed by Billionaires and multi nationals for super-yachts and off shore offices doesn’t even nudge the Nations productivity. Austerity was a political choice and the choice was made to squeeze ordinary people. This is the reason that the wealth gap has increased during the period of austerity. Providing the 99% of ordinary people with more money to spend (instead of taking it off them) was an alternative option. That option was not taken even though the Nations productivity would have improved. Try this even more basic economics, you cant spend money you dont have, labour did and so we have to reduce spending until the budget balances." https://fullfact.org/economy/government-borrowing/ Interesting reading if you still believe the myth that Labour governments borrow more than the Tories. Specifically the current regime. | |||
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"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? Unrest?? Why would a discussion about the future relationship with our closest friends and trading partners result in “unrest”? This is where some Brexiters have completely lost the plot. Why not have “unrest” about ten years worth of austerity, starvation of funds to schools, Police and the NHS? Why not have unrest about increasing poverty and homelessness? Why not just get angry about things that are actually really important rather than a relationship with other countries that barely touches our individual lives but which helps with regulations and trade? Because the government was elected to rein in the debt labour ran up so were abiding by their manifesto to do so, both labour and the tories said they would honour the 2016 vote, the tories won and most of them are trying to do so, those that lost both the 2016 vote and the last election,plus a few tories are trying to overturn those democratic decisions Here is a basic economics lesson for you. Kind of Elementary level... Money spent in a local economy improves productivity of the Nation. Money stashed by Billionaires and multi nationals for super-yachts and off shore offices doesn’t even nudge the Nations productivity. Austerity was a political choice and the choice was made to squeeze ordinary people. This is the reason that the wealth gap has increased during the period of austerity. Providing the 99% of ordinary people with more money to spend (instead of taking it off them) was an alternative option. That option was not taken even though the Nations productivity would have improved. Try this even more basic economics, you cant spend money you dont have, labour did and so we have to reduce spending until the budget balances." The Conservatives have borrowed money at levels not seen since WW2. It is ENTIRELY possible to spend money that you dont have and spending money on local infrastructure that employ local people is a classic response to a recession because it keeps the local economy moving. On the contrary, starving local economies of cash to the point that infrastructure projects are shelved and local services get cut simply prolongs the agony. | |||
"If Parliament takes no deal off the table and forces an extension which in turn causes unrest, could the Government use the Civil Contingencies Act to close down Parliament ? Unrest?? Why would a discussion about the future relationship with our closest friends and trading partners result in “unrest”? This is where some Brexiters have completely lost the plot. Why not have “unrest” about ten years worth of austerity, starvation of funds to schools, Police and the NHS? Why not have unrest about increasing poverty and homelessness? Why not just get angry about things that are actually really important rather than a relationship with other countries that barely touches our individual lives but which helps with regulations and trade? Because the government was elected to rein in the debt labour ran up so were abiding by their manifesto to do so, both labour and the tories said they would honour the 2016 vote, the tories won and most of them are trying to do so, those that lost both the 2016 vote and the last election,plus a few tories are trying to overturn those democratic decisions Here is a basic economics lesson for you. Kind of Elementary level... Money spent in a local economy improves productivity of the Nation. Money stashed by Billionaires and multi nationals for super-yachts and off shore offices doesn’t even nudge the Nations productivity. Austerity was a political choice and the choice was made to squeeze ordinary people. This is the reason that the wealth gap has increased during the period of austerity. Providing the 99% of ordinary people with more money to spend (instead of taking it off them) was an alternative option. That option was not taken even though the Nations productivity would have improved. Try this even more basic economics, you cant spend money you dont have, labour did and so we have to reduce spending until the budget balances. The Conservatives have borrowed money at levels not seen since WW2. It is ENTIRELY possible to spend money that you dont have and spending money on local infrastructure that employ local people is a classic response to a recession because it keeps the local economy moving. On the contrary, starving local economies of cash to the point that infrastructure projects are shelved and local services get cut simply prolongs the agony." You are confusing deficit and debt, and while you can borrow to keep economies going in bad times you then have to pay that back in good times, you cannot just keep borrowing all the time, debt interest is running around 34 billion, just imagine what we could do with that each year | |||
"debt interest is running around 34 billion, just imagine what we could do with that each year" It's nearer £50 billion a year now. The last 3 Conservative Chancellors have borrowed more money from the City of London than every Labour Chancellor in history combined. People get conned very easily by the numbers. | |||
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"The chances of impeachment are exactly zero. This the response to an FOI request about impeachment. Essentially the process is obsolete. Before answering your questions directly, it should be stated unequivocally that for all practical purposes the procedure of impeachment is obsolete. The last (unsuccessful) prosecution of an impeachment case was in 1806. The 1967 Select Committee on Parliamentary Privilege recommended that the right to impeach should be formally abandoned, for which legislation would have been necessary. The recommendation was repeated in the third report from the Committee on Privileges in 1976-77. However, the 1999 Report from the Joint Committee on Parliamentary Privilege stated that ‘the circumstances in which impeachment has taken place are now so remote from the present that the procedure may be considered obsolete’." . Don't quote facts at remoaners, it just makes them sob even more and frankly I'm worried about the state of they're mental health, shit if trump gets reelected we'll have to reopen all the Victorian crazy houses. | |||
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"This is how it works basically: Conservative Party to borrow £500 billion to invest in economy: hurrah, hurrah, hurrah! Labour Party to borrow £500 billion to invest in economy: reckless, reckless, reckless! " Please get your facts right | |||
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" Don't quote facts at remoaners, " Fucking hell, facts at remoaners...that's all "remoaners" have been talking about since before the referendum that leavers still can't get through their skulls or they simply waft away as Project Fear, even though it's slowly coming from their own Brexiteers in Government | |||
