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"So here we all are on a swinging site engaging in a lifestyle hobby that is the very definition of liberal. The French actually chalk Swingers “Libertines.” Right wing values by definition support family values, the sanctity of marriage and moralised attitude to the way that life should be lived. I see a number of people on here whose posts read as though they really are liberal, tolerant and will think about the actions and consequences of others and how those actions might impact third parties. True liberal minds. Then there are others.... such people appear to embrace a more right-wing philosophy and openly support the derision of what they see as the “loony left” attitudes of liberals and people who support liberal attitudes and values. It gets even more bizarre when such comments come from transvestites - a sector of the population that would not even exist in the type of authoritarian society that they seem to want to aspire to. I guess it is understandable that frustrated, single men get all aroused at the thought of “strong leaders” and authority but even so.....? How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? How can you truly be in favour of right wing family values and yet partake in casual sex with married people? I find the contradiction very interesting -especially so with those from the TV/TS community." Lol well if we ever needed a opening on how closed minded, judgemental and self righteous the far left or loony left really is this is it lol brilliant Tolerant,, but won’t let the lgbt community think for themselves and should be brainwashed like the rest Liberals used to exist and was fair and open minded but that is long gone, the loony left is now full of hate, looking to blame others and criticising others who don’t agree with them, always thinking they are better than others The old left ( liberals ) were great, but the new far left ( loony left ) are not Thank you so much for posting what you did, completely proves mine and others points Lol brilliant | |||
"How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle?" I'd imagine they do it the same way left wingers like me do it - hypocrisy. It's everybody's 'get out of jail free' card. I, for one, am glad I live in a liberal democracy that allows me to be a transvestite without undue trouble; and also allows me to call out right wing types for the utter bullshit they spout. They don't like it - but not a single one of them has ever tried to stop me. That's one thing the left wing do (no me personally - but way too many of them) that they shouldn't; tell you who you should be allowed to engage with, or listen to. Fuck that! If some pound-shop Nazi wants to air his views, fair enough. I don't have the right to silence him - I'll just ignore him or call him out on his bullshit. I get offended by a lot - but I've never been physically harmed - just irritated as fuck. I cope with it; it's not so hard. Remember - no matter how shit things may be for you if you hate Brexit, Tories, Republicans, Trump, Farage, Boris, etc - you don't live in Syria. Right? | |||
"How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? I'd imagine they do it the same way left wingers like me do it - hypocrisy. It's everybody's 'get out of jail free' card. I, for one, am glad I live in a liberal democracy that allows me to be a transvestite without undue trouble; and also allows me to call out right wing types for the utter bullshit they spout. They don't like it - but not a single one of them has ever tried to stop me. That's one thing the left wing do (no me personally - but way too many of them) that they shouldn't; tell you who you should be allowed to engage with, or listen to. Fuck that! If some pound-shop Nazi wants to air his views, fair enough. I don't have the right to silence him - I'll just ignore him or call him out on his bullshit. I get offended by a lot - but I've never been physically harmed - just irritated as fuck. I cope with it; it's not so hard. Remember - no matter how shit things may be for you if you hate Brexit, Tories, Republicans, Trump, Farage, Boris, etc - you don't live in Syria. Right? " Can’t argue with that  | |||
"So here we all are on a swinging site engaging in a lifestyle hobby that is the very definition of liberal. The French actually chalk Swingers “Libertines.” Right wing values by definition support family values, the sanctity of marriage and moralised attitude to the way that life should be lived. I see a number of people on here whose posts read as though they really are liberal, tolerant and will think about the actions and consequences of others and how those actions might impact third parties. True liberal minds. Then there are others.... such people appear to embrace a more right-wing philosophy and openly support the derision of what they see as the “loony left” attitudes of liberals and people who support liberal attitudes and values. It gets even more bizarre when such comments come from transvestites - a sector of the population that would not even exist in the type of authoritarian society that they seem to want to aspire to. I guess it is understandable that frustrated, single men get all aroused at the thought of “strong leaders” and authority but even so.....? How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? How can you truly be in favour of right wing family values and yet partake in casual sex with married people? I find the contradiction very interesting -especially so with those from the TV/TS community." It's an interesting point. I suspect you're attributing too much thought to the right wingers. If they think it's okay to like Trump, vote for brexit or support Tommy Robinson, then they're not the type of people who will consider that this liberal lifestyle is against their chosen philosophy. Expecially true for out friends who are LGBT+. On the other hand anyone who describes non racists as "loony left" instantly highlight themselves as people to avoid in life. | |||
"How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? I'd imagine they do it the same way left wingers like me do it - hypocrisy. It's everybody's 'get out of jail free' card. I, for one, am glad I live in a liberal democracy that allows me to be a transvestite without undue trouble; and also allows me to call out right wing types for the utter bullshit they spout. They don't like it - but not a single one of them has ever tried to stop me. That's one thing the left wing do (no me personally - but way too many of them) that they shouldn't; tell you who you should be allowed to engage with, or listen to. Fuck that! If some pound-shop Nazi wants to air his views, fair enough. I don't have the right to silence him - I'll just ignore him or call him out on his bullshit. I get offended by a lot - but I've never been physically harmed - just irritated as fuck. I cope with it; it's not so hard. Remember - no matter how shit things may be for you if you hate Brexit, Tories, Republicans, Trump, Farage, Boris, etc - you don't live in Syria. Right? " Aight. Good points. We're in this generally tolerant country because people have stood up to the oppressors of the time. The current lot you mentioned are the people we need to resist. | |||
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"So here we all are on a swinging site engaging in a lifestyle hobby that is the very definition of liberal. The French actually chalk Swingers “Libertines.” Right wing values by definition support family values, the sanctity of marriage and moralised attitude to the way that life should be lived. I see a number of people on here whose posts read as though they really are liberal, tolerant and will think about the actions and consequences of others and how those actions might impact third parties. True liberal minds. Then there are others.... such people appear to embrace a more right-wing philosophy and openly support the derision of what they see as the “loony left” attitudes of liberals and people who support liberal attitudes and values. It gets even more bizarre when such comments come from transvestites - a sector of the population that would not even exist in the type of authoritarian society that they seem to want to aspire to. I guess it is understandable that frustrated, single men get all aroused at the thought of “strong leaders” and authority but even so.....? How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? How can you truly be in favour of right wing family values and yet partake in casual sex with married people? I find the contradiction very interesting -especially so with those from the TV/TS community. It's an interesting point. I suspect you're attributing too much thought to the right wingers. If they think it's okay to like Trump, vote for brexit or support Tommy Robinson, then they're not the type of people who will consider that this liberal lifestyle is against their chosen philosophy. Expecially true for out friends who are LGBT+. On the other hand anyone who describes non racists as "loony left" instantly highlight themselves as people to avoid in life. "Lol so you have to like and support those three things to be right wing lol come on dude that just stupid even you must know that lol I consider myself on the right, and I don’t care about brexit won’t change my life, I’m not a free loader and I work hard, I think we voted now let’s get on with it. Trump is a massive dic, but I will defend anyone ( even stupid people ) if they are being slandered or unfairly attracted, do I think he’s doing a good job ? Yes I do Tommy Robinson, don’t know much about him but at first glance seem racist , so no love from me here This is why the loony left will always look stupid as they guess, think they are superior and hate any difference of opinion , it’s all about hate, wanting everything for free, being lazy and narrow minded. The original liberals I feel sorry for Pretty certain no one likes racism, but sexual harassment? Remember when you wrote and supported that ,,,,,, remember | |||
" We're in this generally tolerant country because people have stood up to the oppressors of the time. The current lot you mentioned are the people we need to resist." The pendulum never swings too far from the centre. Not in my lifetime, anyway. | |||
"We're in this generally tolerant country because people have stood up to the oppressors of the time. The current lot you mentioned are the people we need to resist." Agreed. And I do oppose them. | |||
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"How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? I'd imagine they do it the same way left wingers like me do it - hypocrisy. It's everybody's 'get out of jail free' card. I, for one, am glad I live in a liberal democracy that allows me to be a transvestite without undue trouble; and also allows me to call out right wing types for the utter bullshit they spout. They don't like it - but not a single one of them has ever tried to stop me. That's one thing the left wing do (no me personally - but way too many of them) that they shouldn't; tell you who you should be allowed to engage with, or listen to. Fuck that! If some pound-shop Nazi wants to air his views, fair enough. I don't have the right to silence him - I'll just ignore him or call him out on his bullshit. I get offended by a lot - but I've never been physically harmed - just irritated as fuck. I cope with it; it's not so hard. Remember - no matter how shit things may be for you if you hate Brexit, Tories, Republicans, Trump, Farage, Boris, etc - you don't live in Syria. Right? " Alice what a wonderfull post agree 100% and more | |||
 use as slurs against those they perceive as on the left: lo@~y left. Putting the livelihoods of millions of people at risk, potentially seeing cancer and other treatments denied to those suffering, could benevolently be considered a minor disorder, if not viewed as psychopathically cruel.
We don't know that much about what differences exist between those on different parts of this continuum but disgust and anger have been noticed for those more to the right. An all-about-me, self-centred  perspective could be considered as identifying someone with deficits, being needy and deficient.
The trajectory of the west is towards a more permissive society, albeit those who are in or out changing over time somewhat. People can isolate and eject themselves , if death doesn't rid others of them first, as they become anachronisms and the Tundra, of living culture. | |||
"It's interesting that few people who describe themselves or might be viewed as right wing, have responded to the specific questions. The right wing of late appear to be more befitting a description that includes elements of psychological disability, which they liberally use as slurs against those they perceive as on the left: lo@~y left. Putting the livelihoods of millions of people at risk, potentially seeing cancer and other treatments denied to those suffering, could benevolently be considered a minor disorder, if not viewed as psychopathically cruel.
We don't know that much about what differences exist between those on different parts of this continuum but disgust and anger have been noticed for those more to the right. An all-about-me, self-centred perspective could be considered as identifying someone with deficits, being needy and deficient.
The trajectory of the west is towards a more permissive society, albeit those who are in or out changing over time somewhat. People can isolate and eject themselves , if death doesn't rid others of them first, as they become anachronisms and the Tundra, of living culture."You spelt loony wrong | |||
"It's interesting that few people who describe themselves or might be viewed as right wing, have responded to the specific questions. " | |||
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"Is loony an adjective used for everyone left of centre... Or is it for a specific type of lefty... And if so what? " It's used by people to attempt to discredit individuals on the centre ground. For example "Loony Left" been used to describe people who questioned renewing trident, people who stand up to bigotry, people who are against harrasment of the LGBT+ community. Things that really have nothing to do with being left or right. | |||
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"In the uk being liberal is going against the wishes of the people because you dont like what they want." Is this a suggestion that only liberals are against brexit? It's funny, I guess we see ourselves differently than how others see us. I'm neither left or right. Every issue is different for me and I have my own opinions rather than following a concensus of a certain group ie "Liberals" would view something. This is why I don't like any news papers and why I could never be a member of a political party. I'm assuming you would consider me a "liberal" for being against brexit? I've been called "loony left" on here for speaking out against race hate. I've been called a "right winger" by people in real life for some of my opinions on copywright law. Meh. | |||
"In the uk being liberal is going against the wishes of the people because you dont like what they want. Is this a suggestion that only liberals are against brexit? It's funny, I guess we see ourselves differently than how others see us. I'm neither left or right. Every issue is different for me and I have my own opinions rather than following a concensus of a certain group ie "Liberals" would view something. This is why I don't like any news papers and why I could never be a member of a political party. I'm assuming you would consider me a "liberal" for being against brexit? I've been called "loony left" on here for speaking out against race hate. I've been called a "right winger" by people in real life for some of my opinions on copywright law. Meh." No im talking about jo swinson shes the head honcho of the liberals. | |||
"In the uk being liberal is going against the wishes of the people because you dont like what they want. Is this a suggestion that only liberals are against brexit? It's funny, I guess we see ourselves differently than how others see us. I'm neither left or right. Every issue is different for me and I have my own opinions rather than following a concensus of a certain group ie "Liberals" would view something. This is why I don't like any news papers and why I could never be a member of a political party. I'm assuming you would consider me a "liberal" for being against brexit? I've been called "loony left" on here for speaking out against race hate. I've been called a "right winger" by people in real life for some of my opinions on copywright law. Meh.No im talking about jo swinson shes the head honcho of the liberals. "insisting that even if a second referendum returned the same result she would still continue to try and stop brexit doesn’t exactly fit with the Democrat name of her party. You could also point at the fact 2 of her current mp are sitting there having won constituencies with sizeable majorities for parties other than the one they are now MPs for ... again not exactly very “democratic “ | |||
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"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck "Not sure I understand your point. | |||
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"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point.". They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
"Oh So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc.. Hmmm. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.". correcto mundo But the BBC wording in the story was an excellent example of virtue signalling. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm."No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride. But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. ". It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense  | |||
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"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm."unsurprisingly its only the gay or black or Muslim dickheads that get the far right panties all twisted. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense"I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information. Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. ". What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article. My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said. Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served. "Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said. "In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'. "How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?" | |||
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"I'm confused by his story. He says he was refused because he looked too straight. And finished talking about race. Either which ways, if he was refused service for either reason, that's not on. " Sounds like the guy suspected it was about race, but the barman gave the 'too straight' reason as a way of trying to make him feel uncomfortable and leave, because he didn't feel able to say 'too black'. | |||
"I'll try one more time. I'll also refer you to my earlier comment about making a bit of effort when reading and understanding comments. I wasn't questioning the guy's story or saying it didn't exist. I was suggesting drawing conclusions about bigotry against straight people from it is silly, because: We don't know if this bar had an official policy of not serving straight people or if it was one member of staff being racist/transphobic. If they did have a policy, we don't know if it is a permanent ban on straights or just for Pride. If they did have a policy we don't know why they had it (it could have been due to straight people causing trouble during Pride, for example). And finally we don't know what this bar is, so we can't check any of this. Given all of the above, it's a little bit silly to conclude that this must be a terrible case of straight rights being violated. But you go ahead if it gives you pleasure. " . Whataboutery anyone?. Yes I will go ahead Some straight people causing trouble to all straight people banned? Are you fucking serious!. Some Muslims did a bad thing so we banned all Muslims for Xmas, how does that sit with you?. Your so bigoted by your own ideology it's beyond a joke. | |||
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"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
"Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure. But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now. I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it. | |||
"I'll try one more time. I'll also refer you to my earlier comment about making a bit of effort when reading and understanding comments. I wasn't questioning the guy's story or saying it didn't exist. I was suggesting drawing conclusions about bigotry against straight people from it is silly, because: We don't know if this bar had an official policy of not serving straight people or if it was one member of staff being racist/transphobic. If they did have a policy, we don't know if it is a permanent ban on straights or just for Pride. If they did have a policy we don't know why they had it (it could have been due to straight people causing trouble during Pride, for example). And finally we don't know what this bar is, so we can't check any of this. Given all of the above, it's a little bit silly to conclude that this must be a terrible case of straight rights being violated. But you go ahead if it gives you pleasure. . Whataboutery anyone?. Yes I will go ahead Some straight people causing trouble to all straight people banned? Are you fucking serious!. Some Muslims did a bad thing so we banned all Muslims for Xmas, how does that sit with you?. Your so bigoted by your own ideology it's beyond a joke." I don't think you know what 'whataboutery' means. There's actually an interesting debate to be had over to what degree it's reasonable to have a 'safe space' that excludes people who can be seen as oppressors. But given that both your reading comprehension and ability to express yourself clearly aren't great, I don't think I'll get anything out of that debate with you. And as it would also be off the original topic, I'll draw the line here and let you get on with being a poor persecuted straight boy. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it.". Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
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"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it..
Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
Angry requires to much energy consumption "You used a lot of insults, exclamation marks and swearing. So it's easy to see why I thought you might be angry. In anycase. What's the hypocrisy you see in the left? I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't know why this incident highlights hypocrisy in anyone, anywhere. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it..
Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
Angry requires to much energy consumption
You used a lot of insults, exclamation marks and swearing. So it's easy to see why I thought you might be angry.
In anycase. What's the hypocrisy you see in the left?
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't know why this incident highlights hypocrisy in anyone, anywhere.". Omg your so middle class, swearing indicates angry . Get fucked is used as a cheery hello around my parts of the world
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"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it..
Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
Angry requires to much energy consumption
You used a lot of insults, exclamation marks and swearing. So it's easy to see why I thought you might be angry.
In anycase. What's the hypocrisy you see in the left?
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't know why this incident highlights hypocrisy in anyone, anywhere..
Omg your so middle class, swearing indicates angry . Get fucked is used as a cheery hello around my parts of the world
"This is the internet. I can't see your face or hear your tone of voice. Anyway, if you were angry or not isnt the main issue. I was genuinely trying to understand what your beef was with all this. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it..
Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
Angry requires to much energy consumption
You used a lot of insults, exclamation marks and swearing. So it's easy to see why I thought you might be angry.
In anycase. What's the hypocrisy you see in the left?
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't know why this incident highlights hypocrisy in anyone, anywhere..
Omg your so middle class, swearing indicates angry . Get fucked is used as a cheery hello around my parts of the world
This is the internet. I can't see your face or hear your tone of voice.
Anyway, if you were angry or not isnt the main issue.
I was genuinely trying to understand what your beef was with all this.". If you read what wrote and still can't figure it out were getting nowhere on what's a liberal, honestly | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it..
Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
Angry requires to much energy consumption
You used a lot of insults, exclamation marks and swearing. So it's easy to see why I thought you might be angry.
In anycase. What's the hypocrisy you see in the left?
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't know why this incident highlights hypocrisy in anyone, anywhere..
Omg your so middle class, swearing indicates angry . Get fucked is used as a cheery hello around my parts of the world
This is the internet. I can't see your face or hear your tone of voice.
Anyway, if you were angry or not isnt the main issue.
I was genuinely trying to understand what your beef was with all this..
If you read what wrote and still can't figure it out were getting nowhere on what's a liberal, honestly "I did read it. But I still don't understand. At least I tried. | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it..
Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
Angry requires to much energy consumption
You used a lot of insults, exclamation marks and swearing. So it's easy to see why I thought you might be angry.
In anycase. What's the hypocrisy you see in the left?
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't know why this incident highlights hypocrisy in anyone, anywhere..
Omg your so middle class, swearing indicates angry . Get fucked is used as a cheery hello around my parts of the world
This is the internet. I can't see your face or hear your tone of voice.
Anyway, if you were angry or not isnt the main issue.
I was genuinely trying to understand what your beef was with all this..
If you read what wrote and still can't figure it out were getting nowhere on what's a liberal, honestly
I did read it. But I still don't understand.
At least I tried. ". Everybody loves a trier pal
Don't let the bastard's grind you down | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it..
Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
Angry requires to much energy consumption
You used a lot of insults, exclamation marks and swearing. So it's easy to see why I thought you might be angry.
In anycase. What's the hypocrisy you see in the left?
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't know why this incident highlights hypocrisy in anyone, anywhere..
Omg your so middle class, swearing indicates angry . Get fucked is used as a cheery hello around my parts of the world
This is the internet. I can't see your face or hear your tone of voice.
Anyway, if you were angry or not isnt the main issue.
I was genuinely trying to understand what your beef was with all this..
If you read what wrote and still can't figure it out were getting nowhere on what's a liberal, honestly
I did read it. But I still don't understand.
At least I tried. .
Everybody loves a trier pal
Don't let the bastard's grind you down "I dunno, other people just slagged you off for your posts. I genuinely tried to understand your point. | |||
" Whataboutery anyone?. Yes I will go ahead Some straight people causing trouble to all straight people banned? Are you fucking serious!. Some Muslims did a bad thing so we banned all Muslims for Xmas, how does that sit with you?. Your so bigoted by your own ideology it's beyond a joke." Add me to the trier list as this post has confused me. What's your point? | |||
"I happened to notice the Manchester pride festival on the BBC news, intolerant gays being judgement and racist?. Anyhow the bit I read was astonishing, two transgender guys were refused service because they looked to straight!! Have no fear though, they eventually proved there transgenderness and were served!. Heavens Abid any straight people got served, what the actual fuck
Not sure I understand your point..
They were only outraged that the staff thought they were straight! Not that they refused service because your not lgbtqropz.
Oh
So the conclusion is that there are dickheads everywhere. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, skin colour, country of origin, which God they believe in etc..
Hmmm.
No, I don't think our angry little poster cares about that - he's just worked up about the idea of bars not serving straight people during Pride.
But given we don't know what bar this was, why they might have this rule, or whether this was an official policy or someone coming up with an excuse to not serve people they didn't like the look of, it's probably not worth getting worked up about unless you're a snowflake looking to get offended. .
It's on the BBC news website this morning why don't you look it up before joining in with your usual nonsense
I said we don't know anything about where or why two people weren't served because they apparently looked straight. The BBC article doesn't have that information.
Try reading comments before replying, and making a little effort to understand them, it really helps. .
What you failed to read the two transgender people's own words in the article.
My god your stupider than I first thought. Just for you here's what they said.
Ryan, a black transgender student, says he had to "out" himself as transgender in order to be served.
"Myself and my black friend, both trans men, were refused drinks at two bars because we were told we looked too straight," he said.
"In one of them the person on the bar told us to our faces 'I don't believe that you are transgender guys'.
"How can we as an LGBT community push for homophobes and transphobes to change their ways if we're still fighting with each other about something as basic as race?"
Assuming all this, he said, she said stuff is true. It's not a good situation, for sure.
But some idiot refusing to serve a straight person a pint isn't the worst problem in the world right now.
I'm not understanding why you're so angry about it..
Your the second person to use the angry word despite me never using it or saying I was, I dunno it's as if your the same person? .
Anyhoo I'm not angry, astonished by the hypocrisy maybe, dumb founded by the left narrative of oppressors maybe.
Angry requires to much energy consumption
You used a lot of insults, exclamation marks and swearing. So it's easy to see why I thought you might be angry.
In anycase. What's the hypocrisy you see in the left?
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't know why this incident highlights hypocrisy in anyone, anywhere..
Omg your so middle class, swearing indicates angry . Get fucked is used as a cheery hello around my parts of the world
This is the internet. I can't see your face or hear your tone of voice.
Anyway, if you were angry or not isnt the main issue.
I was genuinely trying to understand what your beef was with all this..
If you read what wrote and still can't figure it out were getting nowhere on what's a liberal, honestly
I did read it. But I still don't understand.
At least I tried. .
Everybody loves a trier pal
Don't let the bastard's grind you down
I dunno, other people just slagged you off for your posts.
I genuinely tried to understand your point."Tis fine,when they go for the jugular, you know your on to something
Right I'm off to start a straight white pride parade for men with hairy arses only.
I need a safe space away from oppressors and aggressors so I'm starting it in Louth far away from the madding crowd.
I'd invite you as you seem nice but I suspect you might not be white enough or straight enough although your ass seems plenty hairy enough.
Au revoir auf wiedersehen arrivderci ciao bon voyage and aloha | |||
"So here we all are on a swinging site engaging in a lifestyle hobby that is the very definition of liberal. The French actually chalk Swingers “Libertines.” Right wing values by definition support family values, the sanctity of marriage and moralised attitude to the way that life should be lived. I see a number of people on here whose posts read as though they really are liberal, tolerant and will think about the actions and consequences of others and how those actions might impact third parties. True liberal minds. Then there are others.... such people appear to embrace a more right-wing philosophy and openly support the derision of what they see as the “loony left” attitudes of liberals and people who support liberal attitudes and values. It gets even more bizarre when such comments come from transvestites - a sector of the population that would not even exist in the type of authoritarian society that they seem to want to aspire to. I guess it is understandable that frustrated, single men get all aroused at the thought of “strong leaders” and authority but even so.....? How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? How can you truly be in favour of right wing family values and yet partake in casual sex with married people? I find the contradiction very interesting -especially so with those from the TV/TS community. Lol well if we ever needed a opening on how closed minded, judgemental and self righteous the far left or loony left really is this is it lol brilliant Tolerant,, but won’t let the lgbt community think for themselves and should be brainwashed like the rest Liberals used to exist and was fair and open minded but that is long gone, the loony left is now full of hate, looking to blame others and criticising others who don’t agree with them, always thinking they are better than others The old left ( liberals ) were great, but the new far left ( loony left ) are not Thank you so much for posting what you did, completely proves mine and others points Lol brilliant " Define the old left liberals? | |||
"So here we all are on a swinging site engaging in a lifestyle hobby that is the very definition of liberal. The French actually chalk Swingers “Libertines.” Right wing values by definition support family values, the sanctity of marriage and moralised attitude to the way that life should be lived. I see a number of people on here whose posts read as though they really are liberal, tolerant and will think about the actions and consequences of others and how those actions might impact third parties. True liberal minds. Then there are others.... such people appear to embrace a more right-wing philosophy and openly support the derision of what they see as the “loony left” attitudes of liberals and people who support liberal attitudes and values. It gets even more bizarre when such comments come from transvestites - a sector of the population that would not even exist in the type of authoritarian society that they seem to want to aspire to. I guess it is understandable that frustrated, single men get all aroused at the thought of “strong leaders” and authority but even so.....? How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? How can you truly be in favour of right wing family values and yet partake in casual sex with married people? I find the contradiction very interesting -especially so with those from the TV/TS community." | |||
"So here we all are on a swinging site engaging in a lifestyle hobby that is the very definition of liberal. The French actually chalk Swingers “Libertines.” Right wing values by definition support family values, the sanctity of marriage and moralised attitude to the way that life should be lived. I see a number of people on here whose posts read as though they really are liberal, tolerant and will think about the actions and consequences of others and how those actions might impact third parties. True liberal minds. Then there are others.... such people appear to embrace a more right-wing philosophy and openly support the derision of what they see as the “loony left” attitudes of liberals and people who support liberal attitudes and values. It gets even more bizarre when such comments come from transvestites - a sector of the population that would not even exist in the type of authoritarian society that they seem to want to aspire to. I guess it is understandable that frustrated, single men get all aroused at the thought of “strong leaders” and authority but even so.....? How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? How can you truly be in favour of right wing family values and yet partake in casual sex with married people? I find the contradiction very interesting -especially so with those from the TV/TS community." Your post insinuates that the liberal left have no family values. | |||
"So here we all are on a swinging site engaging in a lifestyle hobby that is the very definition of liberal. The French actually chalk Swingers “Libertines.” Right wing values by definition support family values, the sanctity of marriage and moralised attitude to the way that life should be lived. I see a number of people on here whose posts read as though they really are liberal, tolerant and will think about the actions and consequences of others and how those actions might impact third parties. True liberal minds. Then there are others.... such people appear to embrace a more right-wing philosophy and openly support the derision of what they see as the “loony left” attitudes of liberals and people who support liberal attitudes and values. It gets even more bizarre when such comments come from transvestites - a sector of the population that would not even exist in the type of authoritarian society that they seem to want to aspire to. I guess it is understandable that frustrated, single men get all aroused at the thought of “strong leaders” and authority but even so.....? How do the right wingers on here explain away their private dalliances with this liberal lifestyle? How can you truly be in favour of right wing family values and yet partake in casual sex with married people? I find the contradiction very interesting -especially so with those from the TV/TS community. Your post insinuates that the liberal left have no family values." I didn't take that at all from their post. Also, family values can mean a whole host of different things. | |||
