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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I heard on the news that if there is a no deal brexit uk will recieve less quality medicine and now as well, doctors, hospitals and gps are stocking up on it, what do you reckon will happen with that industry? I hope it will be ok

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The nightmare scenario for Johnson is patient deaths attributable to Brexit.

I believe medicine supplies will take priority over all other supplies in the event of log jams at the border crossings.

Back in March, the UK Government chartered a plane to carry nuclear medicine from the Netherlands, rather than risk it perishing in the logjam at ferry ports.

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By *wosmilersCouple  over a year ago

Heathrowish

The head of the Calais ports, Jean-Marc Puissesseau says that threats of a logjam and traffic chaos post Brexit are "Le bullshit".

He reckons that this scaremongering is just a ploy by some people who want to create a political storm for their own ends.

I am inclined to believe him....

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Makes you wonder why the UK is drawing up all sorts of contingency plans to cope, then.

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By *wosmilersCouple  over a year ago

Heathrowish


"Makes you wonder why the UK is drawing up all sorts of contingency plans to cope, then."

Not really....it could be window dressing couldn't it?

After all, politics today is about style not substance and the professionals tend to talk sense while quietly getting things done.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"The head of the Calais ports, Jean-Marc Puissesseau says that threats of a logjam and traffic chaos post Brexit are "Le bullshit".

He reckons that this scaremongering is just a ploy by some people who want to create a political storm for their own ends.

I am inclined to believe him....

"

Yes i saw him on tv last week making the same statement.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The nightmare scenario for Johnson is patient deaths attributable to Brexit.

I believe medicine supplies will take priority over all other supplies in the event of log jams at the border crossings.

Back in March, the UK Government chartered a plane to carry nuclear medicine from the Netherlands, rather than risk it perishing in the logjam at ferry ports."

Yes. I reckon so too as the medical supplies are the most important things to have.

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By *wosmilersCouple  over a year ago

Heathrowish

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By *ony 2016Man  over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

A medicine and/or food shortages ( if they do occur ) will not be as bad as we fear , as obviously "leavers" will allow those who haven't caused the problem to go to the front of the queue before sharing what's left between themselves

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

If you are not interested in the thread can you just avoid it rather than write yawn or zzzzzzzzzz as it is rude

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The head of the Calais ports, Jean-Marc Puissesseau says that threats of a logjam and traffic chaos post Brexit are "Le bullshit".

He reckons that this scaremongering is just a ploy by some people who want to create a political storm for their own ends.

I am inclined to believe him....

Yes i saw him on tv last week making the same statement."

actually.... what he said was set in a much wider context...

what he has said is that calais is ready in the fact that they have the spare capacity ready in that if won't affect life in the town and the way that locals get around and about the local area....

the other sorts of delays... 3rd party access and red tape stuff, thats would not be on the EU at that end... that would be on the UK customs....

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Whether the predictions of chaos at the borders are genuine or exaggerated, it will matter not to Jeannie and Johnnie who'll be buying for the siege of Sarajevo in the run-up to October 31.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

This is the country, after all, that could not cope when KFC ran out of chicken and people started to the phone the police.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The nightmare scenario for Johnson is patient deaths attributable to Brexit.

I believe medicine supplies will take priority over all other supplies in the event of log jams at the border crossings.

Back in March, the UK Government chartered a plane to carry nuclear medicine from the Netherlands, rather than risk it perishing in the logjam at ferry ports."

they are still going to need those planes.... in cases where for cancer patients need chemo, those medicines are time dependent... so any whiff of the possibility of delays and they will need to fly them in....

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes.

I read something the other day about more transport planes being booked for other freight containers that normally would come through Dover, again medicinal stuff.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"The nightmare scenario for Johnson is patient deaths attributable to Brexit.

I believe medicine supplies will take priority over all other supplies in the event of log jams at the border crossings.

Back in March, the UK Government chartered a plane to carry nuclear medicine from the Netherlands, rather than risk it perishing in the logjam at ferry ports.

they are still going to need those planes.... in cases where for cancer patients need chemo, those medicines are time dependent... so any whiff of the possibility of delays and they will need to fly them in...."

At least you now acknowledge that the planes will fly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Project Fear rumbles on and on and bloody on

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"At least you now acknowledge that the planes will fly. "

at what point did i ever say that planes run by the UK government would not fly?

please find a quote where i ever said that.....

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Story in tomorrow's Times about how the UK Government is dusting down some obscure law that gives it emergency powers to redirect food supplies, impose curfews etc without the need for parliamentary approval.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"At least you now acknowledge that the planes will fly.

at what point did i ever say that planes run by the UK government would not fly?

please find a quote where i ever said that....."

You have a short memory mate your scaremongering about aviation about a year ago was laughable dont tell me you dont remember being the great expert on aviation rules as the discussions went on for months.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Story in tomorrow's Times about how the UK Government is dusting down some obscure law that gives it emergency powers to redirect food supplies, impose curfews etc without the need for parliamentary approval.

"

Blimey we are having curfews now where did they come from?

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Here's a clue.

Two words.

First begins with N.

Second with I.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"At least you now acknowledge that the planes will fly.

at what point did i ever say that planes run by the UK government would not fly?

please find a quote where i ever said that.....You have a short memory mate your scaremongering about aviation about a year ago was laughable dont tell me you dont remember being the great expert on aviation rules as the discussions went on for months."

That whole debate was about the single aviation market and the impact on UK-based carriers such as easy jet and BA.

The legal advice to the EU27 + 4 about the rules governing the UK as a third country have been on the EC website for over a year now.

It was not about freight charter.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"At least you now acknowledge that the planes will fly.

at what point did i ever say that planes run by the UK government would not fly?

please find a quote where i ever said that.....You have a short memory mate your scaremongering about aviation about a year ago was laughable dont tell me you dont remember being the great expert on aviation rules as the discussions went on for months.

That whole debate was about the single aviation market and the impact on UK-based carriers such as easy jet and BA.

The legal advice to the EU27 + 4 about the rules governing the UK as a third country have been on the EC website for over a year now.

It was not about freight charter.

"

Dont want to cover old ground because all you scaremongers were proved wrong and i know you would rather forget about those debates but one of them was about airspace and Fabio gave us a full blown account of why planes from the uk would not be flying in eu airspace which turned out to be totally false.Now i know it was probably 9 months ago and cant scroll back that far so you can spin it however you want because i cant prove it now but i dont forget.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

While I stayed out of the flights debate back then I know for sure no "Government flights" were ever mentioned at all.

I didn't even think of "Government flights" as a "thing" either

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


" oh _abio you seem to be the one with a selective memory but as i said i know you will want to forget all the bullshit that was posted. "

as i said..... you seem to have selective amnesia...

oooh... lookie what i found....

https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/833167

so... lets try this again.... please don't lie about what was said....

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

thanks.

By _abioFind posts by _abio Man 34 weeks ago

Gateshead

"been looking at old posts now waiting to see who replies. "

oh i will........

see... that agreement only relates to the pilots.... it doesn't relate to the planes!!!!!

so "at the point in time".... unless UK safety and maintenance records" are recognised and ratified by other EU countries" (which the Dft are still working on but certainly not agreed) then planes won't be allowed to fly........ thats what you posted so now tell me im lying.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

thats fine costa.... so from a couple of lines a bit further down...

"my god... again, read the statement from the European Commission....

Transport

The Commission has today adopted two measures that will avoid full interruption of air traffic between the EU and the UK in the event of no deal.

These measures will only ensure basic connectivity and in no means replicate the significant advantages of membership of the Single European Sky.

This is subject to the UK conferring equivalent rights to EU air carriers, as well as the UK ensuring conditions of fair competition.

A proposal for a Regulation to ensure temporarily (for 12 months) the provision of certain air services between the UK and the EU.

A proposal for a Regulation to extend temporarily (for 9 months) the validity of certain aviation safety licences

The Commission has also adopted a proposal for a Regulation to allow UK operators to temporarily (nine months) carry goods into the EU, provided the UK confers equivalent rights to EU road haulage operators and subject to fair competition conditions."

so.... as were saying.......

I know you'll never apologise.... but if you want to look silly i don't providing the rope if you are going to use it to hang yourself with....

so as you were alledging.... where did i talk about government planes?

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"thats fine costa.... so from a couple of lines a bit further down...

"my god... again, read the statement from the European Commission....

Transport

The Commission has today adopted two measures that will avoid full interruption of air traffic between the EU and the UK in the event of no deal.

These measures will only ensure basic connectivity and in no means replicate the significant advantages of membership of the Single European Sky.

This is subject to the UK conferring equivalent rights to EU air carriers, as well as the UK ensuring conditions of fair competition.

A proposal for a Regulation to ensure temporarily (for 12 months) the provision of certain air services between the UK and the EU.

A proposal for a Regulation to extend temporarily (for 9 months) the validity of certain aviation safety licences

The Commission has also adopted a proposal for a Regulation to allow UK operators to temporarily (nine months) carry goods into the EU, provided the UK confers equivalent rights to EU road haulage operators and subject to fair competition conditions."

so.... as were saying.......

I know you'll never apologise.... but if you want to look silly i don't providing the rope if you are going to use it to hang yourself with....

so as you were alledging.... where did i talk about government planes?"

Ah government planes! are they just planes chartered by the government? i said if you look at least you acknowledge planes will fly now and you clearly said in that post planes wont fly.bye the way how do you go back that far into the archives? because there are a few earlier threads i would like to revisit so appreciate it if you tell me how.

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"Makes you wonder why the UK is drawing up all sorts of contingency plans to cope, then.

Not really....it could be window dressing couldn't it?

After all, politics today is about style not substance and the professionals tend to talk sense while quietly getting things done."

That's a lot of expensive window dressing

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