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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The Texas supermarket shooter (20 dead so far) is believed to have used an extremist website to justify his massacre as “a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas”.

El Paso police chief Greg Allen said on Saturday night that authorities were examining a manifesto from the suspect and said “there is a potential nexus to a hate crime”.

But a four-page statement posted on 8chan, an online message board often used by extremists, and believed to have been authored by the suspect, called the Walmart attack “a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas”.

Beto O’Rourke, who is from El Paso, said Trump is to blame for right-wing extremists:

“We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years during an administration where you have a president who has called Mexicans rapists and criminals, though Mexican immigrants commit crimes at a far lower rate than people born in this country.

“He has tried to make us afraid of them … attempting to ban all Muslims from this country. The day that he signed that executive order the mosque in Victoria, Texas was burned to the ground. Those chants that we heard in Greenville North Carolina – ‘send her back’ – talking about fellow American citizens duly elected to represent their constituents in Congress …

“He is a racist. He is stoking racism in this country ... and it fundamentally changes the character of the country and leads to violence.”

What do you think?

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

You may be right or you may be wrong.

It's far too early to jump to those conclusions.

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

Why does an Ak47 need to be in private hands?

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

the 291st mass shooting so far this year in USA

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The shooting is tragic, too early to say the reason behind it.

Some unknown pleb using it to politically point score is also appalling.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

O'Rourke is running for president.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London

How come we get the level headed wait and see response from posters when a white person commits a crime like this?

It's absolutely the right response and those who have posted so far are not the target of my next comment.

If it might be Muslim perpetrator the launch into demonisation is almost immediate.

Are these genuinely held beliefs or have we been conditioned to respond in this way due to the response of the media and the reaction of those in power?

Sadly, nothing will change in the USA apart from, perhaps, more armed guards in shopping malls.

If mass murderer at a primary school won't change the law then what difference a shopping mall?

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By *V-AliceTV/TS  over a year ago

Ayr

I think the murderer was a stupid, racist cunt before Trump became President. Did Trump's obvious racism tip him over the edge? I doubt it.

Something else happened to him, that caused his resentment to boil over. God knows what.

As for gun control, it won't happen unless the culture changes. Most Americans are content to put up with the bloodshed because they don't care any more about it than they do about fatal car accidents.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"How come we get the level headed wait and see response from posters when a white person commits a crime like this?

It's absolutely the right response and those who have posted so far are not the target of my next comment.

If it might be Muslim perpetrator the launch into demonisation is almost immediate.

Are these genuinely held beliefs or have we been conditioned to respond in this way due to the response of the media and the reaction of those in power?

Sadly, nothing will change in the USA apart from, perhaps, more armed guards in shopping malls.

If mass murderer at a primary school won't change the law then what difference a shopping mall?"

Well done mate, you managed to bring race into this, you’re on fire

However you did forget to use the trump word mind this time

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"Did Trump's obvious racism tip him over the edge? I doubt it.

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Hitler did not order Kristallnacht, but he cultivated the culture that permitted it.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Did Trump's obvious racism tip him over the edge? I doubt it.

Hitler did not order Kristallnacht, but he cultivated the culture that permitted it.

"

Hitler and trump yay 10 bonus points for you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why does an Ak47 need to be in private hands?

"

AK-47. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room, accept no substitutes.

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By *hezuMan  over a year ago

London

America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental

Another tradegy, very sad indeed.

Beta O'rouke point scoring. What a creep!

And guess what? 'It's Trumps fault'!

Ohh my goodness, who would have thought of that.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

Funny how it is always too early to jump to conclusions when the killer is white but not when the killer is brown. I wonder why that is?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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Well done mate, you managed to bring race into this, you’re on fire

However you did forget to use the trump word mind this time "

well since texas looking into this as a race hate crime... and since the blokes "manifesto" had all sorts of racist shit in it... i think its fair that we mention "race"....

too many people are apologists for white nationalism... and lets call it what it is... terrorism...

but i am sure someone will come along and say "mental issues" and excuse it all away....

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By *hezuMan  over a year ago

London


"Funny how it is always too early to jump to conclusions when the killer is white but not when the killer is brown. I wonder why that is?"

It is very odd they aren't investigating this as a terrorist attack but as a capital murder case

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo"

Wise words. Sadly the UK is heading in that general direction culturally.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Funny how it is always too early to jump to conclusions when the killer is white but not when the killer is brown. I wonder why that is?

It is very odd they aren't investigating this as a terrorist attack but as a capital murder case"

texas police are taking the lead... and because they have the death penalty (and use it often) there is no need for the FBI to look at it as a federal case.....

they can't investigate it as a terrorist attack anyway because the trump administration took "white nationalism" off the lists it could be defined as....

they can (and are) looking at this as a race hate crime......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Well done mate, you managed to bring race into this, you’re on fire

However you did forget to use the trump word mind this time

well since texas looking into this as a race hate crime... and since the blokes "manifesto" had all sorts of racist shit in it... i think its fair that we mention "race"....

too many people are apologists for white nationalism... and lets call it what it is... terrorism...

but i am sure someone will come along and say "mental issues" and excuse it all away...."

We all know the apologists for white supremacists in the forum .Dont feed them fella..

I expect to hear he's a lone wolf mentality sick kid who plays fortnite far to much ..Hell be a misunderstood decent boy..

You know how the script goes from the right wing loons who will fall over themselves to make excuses for his actions.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Another tradegy, very sad indeed.

Beta O'rouke point scoring. What a creep!

And guess what? 'It's Trumps fault'!

Ohh my goodness, who would have thought of that.

"

I think Beto gets to talk about this in that language because he was the 3 time congress-person for that state in D.c before he ran for statewide office.....

and trump tries to reference El Paso at lot when he is talking about border control and "falsely" claims it is one of the cities most under threat... when in fact El Paso is one of the safest cities in america.....

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo"

I do not think that there is any requirement for assault weapons that have been designed only to kill other people should be in civilian hands.

If you enjoy shooting stuff, fine. Licensed gun clubs with supervised use.

The real problem is collecting the huge number of weapons in circulation.

Perhaps cutting off the supply of ammunition?

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By *ild_oatsMan  over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo

Wise words. Sadly the UK is heading in that general direction culturally. "

The difference is the UK has not militarised it’s civil society and made the ownership of weapons a right....

With now another shooting in Dayton, Ohio you do wonder if the “Land of the free” has got it right...

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By *hezuMan  over a year ago

London


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo

I do not think that there is any requirement for assault weapons that have been designed only to kill other people should be in civilian hands.

If you enjoy shooting stuff, fine. Licensed gun clubs with supervised use.

The real problem is collecting the huge number of weapons in circulation.

Perhaps cutting off the supply of ammunition?"

It's one of the only countries still able to fight against their government look at china/hong kong those protesters are just walking meatbags against the military there's no democracy there at all and the people are powerless to fight back

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By *hezuMan  over a year ago

London


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo

Wise words. Sadly the UK is heading in that general direction culturally.

The difference is the UK has not militarised it’s civil society and made the ownership of weapons a right....

With now another shooting in Dayton, Ohio you do wonder if the “Land of the free” has got it right..."

Weapons aren't the cause of the problem it only makes it easier. Anyone with enough evil intent will carry it out whether it be with a vehicle or a homemade explosive

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


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Well done mate, you managed to bring race into this, you’re on fire

However you did forget to use the trump word mind this time

well since texas looking into this as a race hate crime... and since the blokes "manifesto" had all sorts of racist shit in it... i think its fair that we mention "race"....

too many people are apologists for white nationalism... and lets call it what it is... terrorism...

but i am sure someone will come along and say "mental issues" and excuse it all away...."

Hay that wasn’t my point, this guy is obviously a bell end and I’m glad the cunt is dead , no room for racism anywhere

My point was the gent trying to divide people all the time

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"How come we get the level headed wait and see response from posters when a white person commits a crime like this?

It's absolutely the right response and those who have posted so far are not the target of my next comment.

If it might be Muslim perpetrator the launch into demonisation is almost immediate.

Are these genuinely held beliefs or have we been conditioned to respond in this way due to the response of the media and the reaction of those in power?

Sadly, nothing will change in the USA apart from, perhaps, more armed guards in shopping malls.

If mass murderer at a primary school won't change the law then what difference a shopping mall?

Well done mate, you managed to bring race into this, you’re on fire

However you did forget to use the trump word mind this time "

Hahaha @truthdenial

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By *ild_oatsMan  over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo

Wise words. Sadly the UK is heading in that general direction culturally.

The difference is the UK has not militarised it’s civil society and made the ownership of weapons a right....

With now another shooting in Dayton, Ohio you do wonder if the “Land of the free” has got it right...

Weapons aren't the cause of the problem it only makes it easier. Anyone with enough evil intent will carry it out whether it be with a vehicle or a homemade explosive"

Yes.... but you don’t need to arm society...

They are not fighting the 1776 war of independence anymore.

There is no requirement for a citizen militia as a standing Army/Air Force/Navy now exists.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The constitutional right to possess a gun was written when it would take you five minutes to reload a weapon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo

Wise words. Sadly the UK is heading in that general direction culturally.

The difference is the UK has not militarised it’s civil society and made the ownership of weapons a right....

With now another shooting in Dayton, Ohio you do wonder if the “Land of the free” has got it right..."

Free to machine gun your neighbours

Americans want their guns and even kids lives are more than worth the price for others to pay in keeping their AR's and heavy machines guns.

After all they need the ability to protect themselves from each other anyway

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The culture of America is one of violence.

I saw a study that said the average kid had seen 12,000 murders or so by the age of 16, watching Hollywood productions.

That culture reaches abroad too - the United States is always fighting with someone.

I saw a figure citing 222 years out of 240 years or so.

Its history is violent and so was its genocidal creation.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"The culture of America is one of violence.

I saw a study that said the average kid had seen 12,000 murders or so by the age of 16, watching Hollywood productions.

That culture reaches abroad too - the United States is always fighting with someone.

I saw a figure citing 222 years out of 240 years or so.

Its history is violent and so was its genocidal creation.

"

The history of most of the world is one of violence.

It just seems that the gun has been elevated to a different level in the USA.

The creation myths of other countries are of swords and archery and castles.

The mythology of wild west gun-slingers and subjugation of the natives are deeply rooted but down to the USA being such a new nation.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

292.

There was another massacre last night in Ohio.

Whatever they're doing about it over there isn't working.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"292.

There was another massacre last night in Ohio.

Whatever they're doing about it over there isn't working."

They aren't doing anything about it as far as I can tell...

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By *eavenNhellCouple  over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

nuff said realy

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819576527

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"292.

There was another massacre last night in Ohio.

Whatever they're doing about it over there isn't working.

They aren't doing anything about it as far as I can tell..."

They are doing thoughts and prayers.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"You may be right or you may be wrong.

It's far too early to jump to those conclusions."

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Funny how it is always too early to jump to conclusions when the killer is white but not when the killer is brown. I wonder why that is?"

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By *V-AliceTV/TS  over a year ago

Ayr


"Did Trump's obvious racism tip him over the edge? I doubt it.

Hitler did not order Kristallnacht, but he cultivated the culture that permitted it.

"

Agreed. That said, giving tacit approval and causing something aren't the same thing. You still need the nutjob to do the crime.

Trump's problem is that he doesn't care about the influence he has on people like this. With great power comes great responsibility - unless you have the ego and instincts of a three year old.

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By *hezuMan  over a year ago

London

There has just been a 3rd shooting with 7 wounded in chicago

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

No, Trump does not care about the impact of his words and the influence they have on people like the Christchurch shooter (who cited Trump as someone he looked up to) and perhaps on this individual, too.

He cares only for himself and his re-election. Egotistical does not begin to describe him.

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By *eavenNhellCouple  over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

A constitutional amendment passed by slave owners when "arms" could fire a couple of shots a minute with an effective range of tens of yards is a treated as a sacred right in a country which forbids the sale of kinder surprise chocolates because the law bans edible things which contain inedible ones.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Dayton, Ohio was where the Bosnia peace accord was signed, I think.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"292.

There was another massacre last night in Ohio.

Whatever they're doing about it over there isn't working.

They aren't doing anything about it as far as I can tell...

They are doing thoughts and prayers."

How often do they need to pray before it works?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How come we get the level headed wait and see response from posters when a white person commits a crime like this?

It's absolutely the right response and those who have posted so far are not the target of my next comment.

If it might be Muslim perpetrator the launch into demonisation is almost immediate.

Are these genuinely held beliefs or have we been conditioned to respond in this way due to the response of the media and the reaction of those in power?

Sadly, nothing will change in the USA apart from, perhaps, more armed guards in shopping malls.

If mass murderer at a primary school won't change the law then what difference a shopping mall?"

I don't know what colour the person who committed the crime was, and don't care. Likewise I don't know the colour of the victims. It could have been a black person, or muslim pulling the trigger. So my response is the same regardless. Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"292.

There was another massacre last night in Ohio.

Whatever they're doing about it over there isn't working.

They aren't doing anything about it as far as I can tell...

They are doing thoughts and prayers.

How often do they need to pray before it works?"

Forever, Americans are too stupid to realise god isn't real.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me."

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

America is a country built on racial discrimination.

Our own experiences do not transpose to the United States.

Did you know that the US forces who took part in the D-Day landings were segregated by race?

Imagine that - a racially segregated army taking on the world's greatest white supremacist.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country."

Sorry if I missed it, but where have any of the shooters say they were doing it in trumps name ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country."

You've fallen into his trap. He brings up race, and others latch on. I have ssid it is too early to ssy. I now know the gunman was white. For it to be racist, we need to know each victim was ethnic. If the majority were white American it throws racism into doubt.

Either way, the massacre is appalling and there can never be an excuse for it.

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By *nglishdoodMan  over a year ago

Morristown


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo

I do not think that there is any requirement for assault weapons that have been designed only to kill other people should be in civilian hands.

If you enjoy shooting stuff, fine. Licensed gun clubs with supervised use.

The real problem is collecting the huge number of weapons in circulation.

Perhaps cutting off the supply of ammunition?"

My neighbour in Tennessee had 85 guns and 20,000 rounds of ammunition stored away in preparation for the Obama government doing just that. He was far from extreme in his politics either. You can be sure he's not alone.

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"America still has a massive problem with community segregation based on religion and colour, It's breeded strongly in their prison systems too.

when you compare that with the UK where we all have learned to get along for the most part even our prisons are less divided by race albeit it's still there.

I don't think guns need to be banned but instead there needs to be more positive communication between all the different communities and having a president that doesn't make people feel divided would help too imo

I do not think that there is any requirement for assault weapons that have been designed only to kill other people should be in civilian hands.

If you enjoy shooting stuff, fine. Licensed gun clubs with supervised use.

The real problem is collecting the huge number of weapons in circulation.

Perhaps cutting off the supply of ammunition?

My neighbour in Tennessee had 85 guns and 20,000 rounds of ammunition stored away in preparation for the Obama government doing just that. He was far from extreme in his politics either. You can be sure he's not alone. "

85 guns and 20000 rounds of ammunition, just in case the newly elected government decided to restrict access to ammunition.

What was your 'far from extreme' neighbour intending to do with all that weaponry?!

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By *eavenNhellCouple  over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country.

Sorry if I missed it, but where have any of the shooters say they were doing it in trumps name ? "

i think the fact that the shooter traveled 600+ miles to "kill mexicans" for "invading my country" which was one of Trumps phrases whilst on the campaigne trail at his nurenberg style rallys think there may be some link to his anti mexican rehtoric

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For it to be racist, we need to know each victim was ethnic. If the majority were white American it throws racism into doubt.

"

He travelled to El Paso, an area that is 80% Hispanic, to "cleanse" and stop the "infestation". The exact same words Trump used to describe Mexican immigrants coming into the region.

Would you like anything else spelled out for you?

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country.

Sorry if I missed it, but where have any of the shooters say they were doing it in trumps name ? i think the fact that the shooter traveled 600+ miles to "kill mexicans" for "invading my country" which was one of Trumps phrases whilst on the campaigne trail at his nurenberg style rallys think there may be some link to his anti mexican rehtoric "

I'm pretty sure to my knowledge that Trump didn't hold any particular Nurenberg style rallies what ever they are. Perhaps your confusing those rallies attended by German supporters of A Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers Party.

Trumps rallies were pretty standard to any other campaign rallies. People go to show their support for a particular candidate, what ever the political party. Americans like to wave flags and banners, what ever the political affiliation.

Trump often refers to illegal Mexicans crossing the border such as gang members, drug runners and child traffickers. He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

dont matter if its trump or anyone else in charge yhey wont ban guns whatever party in power been plenty of oppurtunities to ban guns under republicans or dems.majority out there like guns so no one is prepared to lose millions of votes banning them.the shooter himself sounds like a prick who would of gone postal with or without a gunonly difference would of been the number killed

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country.

Sorry if I missed it, but where have any of the shooters say they were doing it in trumps name ? i think the fact that the shooter traveled 600+ miles to "kill mexicans" for "invading my country" which was one of Trumps phrases whilst on the campaigne trail at his nurenberg style rallys think there may be some link to his anti mexican rehtoric "

This is a horrible event and truly feel sorry for everyone connected

But I’m sorry you can’t blame trump just because you don’t like him, it’s insane

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

"

D'oh.

Hitler never said anything about killing non-aryian either.

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental


"He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

D'oh.

Hitler never said anything about killing non-aryian either."

Implying someone said something or twisting words is a lot more dumb.

Where on earth have these implications come from, this is total madness, completely unacceptable and rather knee jerky.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country.

Sorry if I missed it, but where have any of the shooters say they were doing it in trumps name ? i think the fact that the shooter traveled 600+ miles to "kill mexicans" for "invading my country" which was one of Trumps phrases whilst on the campaigne trail at his nurenberg style rallys think there may be some link to his anti mexican rehtoric

I'm pretty sure to my knowledge that Trump didn't hold any particular Nurenberg style rallies what ever they are. Perhaps your confusing those rallies attended by German supporters of A Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers Party.

Trumps rallies were pretty standard to any other campaign rallies. People go to show their support for a particular candidate, what ever the political party. Americans like to wave flags and banners, what ever the political affiliation.

Trump often refers to illegal Mexicans crossing the border such as gang members, drug runners and child traffickers. He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

"

you sound like you are trying to "apease" trump....

trump can do no wrong... nope! sorry....

he has the pulpit of being the leader of the free world, he goes and says bad things and people go act on it.....

he "held" one of his rallies in El Paso a few months ago.... we know he used it to go on about immigration, how he disparaged the town (with a lot of claims that were not true)

stop excusing what you are seeing... right wing commentators and the president are complicit in what happened...

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"For it to be racist, we need to know each victim was ethnic. If the majority were white American it throws racism into doubt.

He travelled to El Paso, an area that is 80% Hispanic, to "cleanse" and stop the "infestation". The exact same words Trump used to describe Mexican immigrants coming into the region.

Would you like anything else spelled out for you?"

He said illegal immigration not Mexican immigration in his tweet about not wanting illegals to infest the US like MS-13

Couldn’t see anything where trump is trying to cleanse?

The guys a cunt, no one argues that but blaming trump is just stupid and narrow minded

There are also tens of millions against illegal immigration in the US not just trump

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

D'oh.

Hitler never said anything about killing non-aryian either."

Your such a racist

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Like seriously are you lot dense?

The shooter was a republican.

Trump on a recent rally described Mexican Immigrants as an infestation on the country.

A few days later, the shooter travels over 600 miles to a highly populated Hispanic part of the country to "cleanse the infestation".

The second shooter had profile banners of his gun collection arranged in a manner to spell out Trump, and often promoted Trump 2020 to "get our country back".

Just because Trump isn't directly saying "kill them" doesn't mean he's not responsible, it's called long term conditioning. Hold rallies and constantly paint non-whites as "not from here", that they "should go back home", and that they're an "infestation", relax gun laws even more so near enough anyone can get a gun without checks, cut mental health care to the point where only the rich can afford, repeat this cycle and slowly he's shaping a nation of his followers to think this is the right thing to do.

The fact that soo many of you here are in denial about it is actually very worrying but then again most of you are pro-Brexit so would sadly probably prefer someone like Trump in charge.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country.

Sorry if I missed it, but where have any of the shooters say they were doing it in trumps name ? i think the fact that the shooter traveled 600+ miles to "kill mexicans" for "invading my country" which was one of Trumps phrases whilst on the campaigne trail at his nurenberg style rallys think there may be some link to his anti mexican rehtoric

I'm pretty sure to my knowledge that Trump didn't hold any particular Nurenberg style rallies what ever they are. Perhaps your confusing those rallies attended by German supporters of A Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers Party.

Trumps rallies were pretty standard to any other campaign rallies. People go to show their support for a particular candidate, what ever the political party. Americans like to wave flags and banners, what ever the political affiliation.

Trump often refers to illegal Mexicans crossing the border such as gang members, drug runners and child traffickers. He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

you sound like you are trying to "apease" trump....

trump can do no wrong... nope! sorry....

he has the pulpit of being the leader of the free world, he goes and says bad things and people go act on it.....

he "held" one of his rallies in El Paso a few months ago.... we know he used it to go on about immigration, how he disparaged the town (with a lot of claims that were not true)

stop excusing what you are seeing... right wing commentators and the president are complicit in what happened... "

You don’t like trump we get it, but you can’t just make stuff up and blame him for everything

What’s next the Hillsborough disaster, aids, cancer, only 3 seasons of the office ?

You don’t like him, right we get it

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

D'oh.

Hitler never said anything about killing non-aryian either.

Your such a racist"

Are you some sort of Russian bot? Your spelling is shit.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Like seriously are you lot dense?

The shooter was a republican.

Trump on a recent rally described Mexican Immigrants as an infestation on the country.

A few days later, the shooter travels over 600 miles to a highly populated Hispanic part of the country to "cleanse the infestation".

The second shooter had profile banners of his gun collection arranged in a manner to spell out Trump, and often promoted Trump 2020 to "get our country back".

Just because Trump isn't directly saying "kill them" doesn't mean he's not responsible, it's called long term conditioning. Hold rallies and constantly paint non-whites as "not from here", that they "should go back home", and that they're an "infestation", relax gun laws even more so near enough anyone can get a gun without checks, cut mental health care to the point where only the rich can afford, repeat this cycle and slowly he's shaping a nation of his followers to think this is the right thing to do.

The fact that soo many of you here are in denial about it is actually very worrying but then again most of you are pro-Brexit so would sadly probably prefer someone like Trump in charge."

So trump is responsible for the mass shooting?? Lol come on really?? Lol

Long term conditioning, lol that’s a good one, come on you look silly now

Sorry trump was not responsible, can’t just make stuff up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes it is, they said he did it, cos they were hispanic.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

D'oh.

Hitler never said anything about killing non-aryian either.

Your such a racist

Are you some sort of Russian bot? Your spelling is shit.

"

Typical racist

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental


"Why you have to inject your personal form of racism into everything is beyond me.

Just because YOU don't see the racism doesn't mean it's not there, and in America's case it's so damn obvious, compare any, literally any footage of news and you'll see the differences in how they treat the shooters in these cases depending on skin colour. Almost as if they don't want to admit White Nationalism is a thing despite these shooters themselves saying they're doing this in Trump's name and looking to cleanse the country.

Sorry if I missed it, but where have any of the shooters say they were doing it in trumps name ? i think the fact that the shooter traveled 600+ miles to "kill mexicans" for "invading my country" which was one of Trumps phrases whilst on the campaigne trail at his nurenberg style rallys think there may be some link to his anti mexican rehtoric

I'm pretty sure to my knowledge that Trump didn't hold any particular Nurenberg style rallies what ever they are. Perhaps your confusing those rallies attended by German supporters of A Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers Party.

Trumps rallies were pretty standard to any other campaign rallies. People go to show their support for a particular candidate, what ever the political party. Americans like to wave flags and banners, what ever the political affiliation.

Trump often refers to illegal Mexicans crossing the border such as gang members, drug runners and child traffickers. He has not said to my knowledge, to date, that he wants to kill any Mexicans.

you sound like you are trying to "apease" trump....

trump can do no wrong... nope! sorry....

he has the pulpit of being the leader of the free world, he goes and says bad things and people go act on it.....

he "held" one of his rallies in El Paso a few months ago.... we know he used it to go on about immigration, how he disparaged the town (with a lot of claims that were not true)

stop excusing what you are seeing... right wing commentators and the president are complicit in what happened... "

I clearly am not appeasing anyone. Merely stating facts and not having a mind melt.

Who's excusing the issue here, several gunman have lost the plot recently and as always there is carnage, shock and sadness. Followed by the blame game.

However how can continuely blaming a president for an individuals warped and crazy actions offer any form of solution or console grieving family and friends.

Gunmen get in thier head that they can do things, nasty things. For a person to start doing those things they need to stew for a long time. Perhaps they, as an individual feel injustice, perhaps they feel small, have a grudge, low self esteem, perhaps they feed their head with crap all day, play violent video games, watch crap Internet channels, listen to shit music, fantasy mixes with reality. Hey presto, you get a person who goes off the rails.

They plan, they have a loose strategy. They go out, they pull a trigger, they kill. Sadly that happens in seconds, over in minutes. When the fog comes over your mind its hard to stop.

That is an individual person on a rampage. That is fact, that is what happens.

There is no president calling to do these things. The individual takes full responsibility for his or hers actions, it's the individual who has the problem and somewhere along the line their cognitive thought process goes awol.

Trump is not saying kill anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump is not saying kill anyone.

"

Of course not, these people are just killing and going after people Trump says is the enemy. Just a total coincidence that they always happen to be Trump supporters and repeating his wording.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Trump is not saying kill anyone.

Of course not, these people are just killing and going after people Trump says is the enemy. Just a total coincidence that they always happen to be Trump supporters and repeating his wording."

3 of the top 10 largest mass shootings ( not including El Paso ) have happened during Trumps administration, looks like 2 maybe trump supporters.

Could you let me know what trump said that made these mass murder the people they did

It’s ok I will wait

Also if you theory is correct wouldn’t of one of his supporters killed Rosie O'Donnell by now ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Could you let me know what trump said that made these mass murder the people they did

It’s ok I will wait"

Trump said that these "people" are an "infestation" on America, that they need to "go back where they came from", he even said this of legitimate American citizens, still painting them as not belonging here, not being "true" Americans, etc. The fact that Trump cited El Paso as one of the "problem" areas and that's the city this shooter targeted, citing the same stuff Trump has said should be pretty damn clear.

If you can't see the link still then I'm afraid you're either blinded or delusional.

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental


"

Could you let me know what trump said that made these mass murder the people they did

It’s ok I will wait

Trump said that these "people" are an "infestation" on America, that they need to "go back where they came from", he even said this of legitimate American citizens, still painting them as not belonging here, not being "true" Americans, etc. The fact that Trump cited El Paso as one of the "problem" areas and that's the city this shooter targeted, citing the same stuff Trump has said should be pretty damn clear.

If you can't see the link still then I'm afraid you're either blinded or delusional."

Was this the full recorded speach/interview with what Trump said or the juicy out of context stuff, cut up and edited? Was he not speaking about MS13 gang members, drug runners and child traffickers?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Could you let me know what trump said that made these mass murder the people they did

It’s ok I will wait

Trump said that Theseus "people" are an "infestation" on America, that they need to "go back where they came from", he even said this of legitimate American citizens, still painting them as not belonging here, not being "true" Americans, etc. The fact that Trump cited El Paso as one of the "problem" areas and that's the city this shooter targeted, citing the same stuff Trump has said should be pretty damn clear.

If you can't see the link still then I'm afraid you're either blinded or delusional."

Sorry you misunderstood

You said

“Just a total coincidence that they always happen to be Trump supporters and repeating his wording."

So I mentioned the 3 other mass shootings ( in the top 10 since 1960 ) during his administration

I asked

Could you let me know what trump said that made these mass shooting incidents murder the people they did ??

It’s always trump as you said so I’m sure it’s easy for you to answer

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"

If you can't see the link still then I'm afraid you're either blinded or delusional."

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Or worse.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Such a F*cked up country .

Race Hate in America is worse than most places in Europe f9r 1 reason .

They can buy big guns that can kill lots quickly

Yes non hate mass murders have the same problem.

They can buy big guns that kill lots quickly.

Goad i dont live there .

I like mixing with different nationalities colours & creeds.

Treat people right they give it back.

Treat em like c*nts you'll get that back.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

If you can't see the link still then I'm afraid you're either blinded or delusional.

"

Lol says the racist who thinks trump is like hitler

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

why cant any of you rightwing types just agree at least that the jumped up status of white patriotism in America has started a dumpster fire of hate and death,that can be explained by a poor choice of words and actions from a 'senior' member of society.

Unless you really want to justify it?

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

If you can't see the link still then I'm afraid you're either blinded or delusional.

Lol says the racist who thinks trump is like hitler "

He's getting closer by the day.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"why cant any of you rightwing types just agree at least that the jumped up status of white patriotism in America has started a dumpster fire of hate and death,that can be explained by a poor choice of words and actions from a 'senior' member of society.

Unless you really want to justify it?

"

White patriotism ? I’m pretty certain there are millions of people of colour that 100% agree with what the senior member of society has said

Think we can all agree the shooter is a cunt

The senior guy has attacked many people, but pretty certain he’s not instructing some fruit loops to go kill them

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

If you can't see the link still then I'm afraid you're either blinded or delusional.

Lol says the racist who thinks trump is like hitler

He's getting closer by the day."

Yep fair play only need to start murdering now and get the numbers up to 11-12 million from 0 and he’s right there with him

You silly lefties make me laugh

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By *ore of thatMan  over a year ago

skerries

I think people this side of the Atlantic would blame Donald trump if they get a dose of the shites...let's try get our own countries in order first before we comment on America ...and what about Iran.russia.syria.china .the list goes on and on .there is mass killings going on all the time

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"why cant any of you rightwing types just agree at least that the jumped up status of white patriotism in America has started a dumpster fire of hate and death,that can be explained by a poor choice of words and actions from a 'senior' member of society.

Unless you really want to justify it?

White patriotism ? I’m pretty certain there are millions of people of colour that 100% agree with what the senior member of society has said

Think we can all agree the shooter is a cunt

The senior guy has attacked many people, but pretty certain he’s not instructing some fruit loops to go kill them

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf? "

you are amazing,total denial.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"why cant any of you rightwing types just agree at least that the jumped up status of white patriotism in America has started a dumpster fire of hate and death,that can be explained by a poor choice of words and actions from a 'senior' member of society.

Unless you really want to justify it?

White patriotism ? I’m pretty certain there are millions of people of colour that 100% agree with what the senior member of society has said

Think we can all agree the shooter is a cunt

The senior guy has attacked many people, but pretty certain he’s not instructing some fruit loops to go kill them

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

you are amazing,total denial."

Lol great reply and great debate lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think people this side of the Atlantic would blame Donald trump if they get a dose of the shites...let's try get our own countries in order first before we comment on America ...and what about Iran.russia.syria.china .the list goes on and on .there is mass killings going on all the time "

Do you think it's worth looking into the factors and motivations of the mass shootings? Even if the results don't agree with your preconceptions.

Also the media in the UK is currently focussing on stuff like this as it takes attention away from the downward spiral out country is in.

"There is mass shootings going on all the time" - sic.

You might find some of the stats for how many mass shootings there are in America Vs the rest of the world.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West

Regular posters know that I have had commitments in the US going back to 2010 and have been a regular visitor.

I have a theory - mentioned before on here - that goes some way to explaining the attitude towards guns and the radicalisation of (mainly) white guys.

There is an endemic concept of fear that is built into the American psyche. Maybe it is something to do with the way they seized the country through violence and fearing that violence could take it away from them. White Americans have a history of freaking out at the slightest provocations with massacres of indigenous tribes during the conquest and mass murders and lynchings of black Americans in the slave years and years just after abolition.

Anyway, the point being that there is this culture of fear and mistrust and you see it in TV programmes like Cops, Bait car and other such high octane Police drama’s. Hollywood is also obsessed with gun violence and this manifests itself time and time again in films that are completely over the top with violence and firearms.

It does not take much influence to provoke heavily armed and already fearful young men to take the law into their own hands and pursue an agenda that they are being led to believe is right - at least in their twisted minds.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf? "

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"why cant any of you rightwing types just agree at least that the jumped up status of white patriotism in America has started a dumpster fire of hate and death,that can be explained by a poor choice of words and actions from a 'senior' member of society.

Unless you really want to justify it?

White patriotism ? I’m pretty certain there are millions of people of colour that 100% agree with what the senior member of society has said

Think we can all agree the shooter is a cunt

The senior guy has attacked many people, but pretty certain he’s not instructing some fruit loops to go kill them

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

you are amazing,total denial.

Lol great reply and great debate lol"

I've watched your previous posts,it appears trump can do no wrong and you continually justify pretty much anything controversial he has said.

You appear to not be able to see the link between the rise in racist action and Trump's numerous blunders(the sheer denial of any wrong doing either).

When you have as president that knows most of the country believe in the right to bear arms, against foreign and domestic,then start talking about being invaded from the inside and outside he surely knows these extreme groups will jump on what they see as the justification to act and distribute agendas.

I suppose by people of colour you mean black people?,as opposed to anyone non-white.Unsure where you were going with this.

Dont worry, we'll soon have many alt-right/ext-right groups downplaying this or the latter professing it's fake news and crisis actors.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"Regular posters know that I have had commitments in the US going back to 2010 and have been a regular visitor.

I have a theory - mentioned before on here - that goes some way to explaining the attitude towards guns and the radicalisation of (mainly) white guys.

There is an endemic concept of fear that is built into the American psyche. Maybe it is something to do with the way they seized the country through violence and fearing that violence could take it away from them. White Americans have a history of freaking out at the slightest provocations with massacres of indigenous tribes during the conquest and mass murders and lynchings of black Americans in the slave years and years just after abolition.

Anyway, the point being that there is this culture of fear and mistrust and you see it in TV programmes like Cops, Bait car and other such high octane Police drama’s. Hollywood is also obsessed with gun violence and this manifests itself time and time again in films that are completely over the top with violence and firearms.

It does not take much influence to provoke heavily armed and already fearful young men to take the law into their own hands and pursue an agenda that they are being led to believe is right - at least in their twisted minds. "

a seriously stressed out country

thanks for sharing that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

bbc news:

"FBI Director Christopher Wray said in July the Bureau had made about 100 domestic terrorism arrests this year.

A majority of those cases were motivated by "some version" of white supremacist violence"

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, right-wing extremism is the gravest threat to decent ordinary folks. Some on here are totally blind to it.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Dont worry, we'll soon have many alt-right/ext-right groups downplaying this or the latter professing it's fake news and crisis actors."

it will be "thoughts and prayers".....

the number 4 republican in government has already blamed "video games"

and the texas lt.gov didn't blame "gun control" or "white nationalists"... but blamed in on the "lack of prayers said in schools"

so... its already happening....

i was always of the thought that is nothing changed after sandy hook or parkland... nothing was every changing again...

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

If you can't see the link still then I'm afraid you're either blinded or delusional.

Lol says the racist who thinks trump is like hitler

He's getting closer by the day.

Yep fair play only need to start murdering now and get the numbers up to 11-12 million from 0 and he’s right there with him

You silly lefties make me laugh "

You don't know my politics and you clearly know nothing about history either.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Dont worry, we'll soon have many alt-right/ext-right groups downplaying this or the latter professing it's fake news and crisis actors.

it will be "thoughts and prayers".....

the number 4 republican in government has already blamed "video games"

and the texas lt.gov didn't blame "gun control" or "white nationalists"... but blamed in on the "lack of prayers said in schools"

so... its already happening....

i was always of the thought that is nothing changed after sandy hook or parkland... nothing was every changing again..."

trump: gay night club shootings,if they had concealed weapons on them they could have fought back

trump: will NEVER restrict gun ownership

trump in 2000:"!I support the ban on assault weapons"

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

and right on cue... trumps first comments... nothing on white nationalism or gun control... mentions mental health issues

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

He speaks the truth.

He just never speaks in the context of any other massacre.

Anyone who decides to slaughter random strangers - whatever their ideology - clearly has more than one screw loose.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"He speaks the truth.

He just never speaks in the context of any other massacre.

Anyone who decides to slaughter random strangers - whatever their ideology - clearly has more than one screw loose."

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"...."

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??"

Trump's cleary racist.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"why cant any of you rightwing types just agree at least that the jumped up status of white patriotism in America has started a dumpster fire of hate and death,that can be explained by a poor choice of words and actions from a 'senior' member of society.

Unless you really want to justify it?

White patriotism ? I’m pretty certain there are millions of people of colour that 100% agree with what the senior member of society has said

Think we can all agree the shooter is a cunt

The senior guy has attacked many people, but pretty certain he’s not instructing some fruit loops to go kill them

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

you are amazing,total denial.

Lol great reply and great debate lol

I've watched your previous posts,it appears trump can do no wrong and you continually justify pretty much anything controversial he has said.

You appear to not be able to see the link between the rise in racist action and Trump's numerous blunders(the sheer denial of any wrong doing either).

When you have as president that knows most of the country believe in the right to bear arms, against foreign and domestic,then start talking about being invaded from the inside and outside he surely knows these extreme groups will jump on what they see as the justification to act and distribute agendas.

I suppose by people of colour you mean black people?,as opposed to anyone non-white.Unsure where you were going with this.

Dont worry, we'll soon have many alt-right/ext-right groups downplaying this or the latter professing it's fake news and crisis actors."

That’s great then as you would know I’m not a particular fan of trump, just hate self righteous people who throw lies about people.

Would even stick up for you if that was the case

Urrrrmm you mentioned white people first I was pointing out that it’s not just white people who support him ,, I did wonder why you did that

I go on what I see not guess, I haven’t seen the racism that people talk about, more than happy to discuss if you have examples, I’m open to change my mind if proven wrong

So again you think he is asking this cunt to go and shoot loads of people ? It just seems a little far fetched to me

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"bbc news:

"FBI Director Christopher Wray said in July the Bureau had made about 100 domestic terrorism arrests this year.

A majority of those cases were motivated by "some version" of white supremacist violence""

They should be sent to prison, there is no room in this world for any type of racism full stop

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Yes, right-wing extremism is the gravest threat to decent ordinary folks. Some on here are totally blind to it.

"

Ordinary lol

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Dont worry, we'll soon have many alt-right/ext-right groups downplaying this or the latter professing it's fake news and crisis actors.

it will be "thoughts and prayers".....

the number 4 republican in government has already blamed "video games"

and the texas lt.gov didn't blame "gun control" or "white nationalists"... but blamed in on the "lack of prayers said in schools"

so... its already happening....

i was always of the thought that is nothing changed after sandy hook or parkland... nothing was every changing again..."

Guns should be outlawed I don’t see the need to own one

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Dont worry, we'll soon have many alt-right/ext-right groups downplaying this or the latter professing it's fake news and crisis actors.

it will be "thoughts and prayers".....

the number 4 republican in government has already blamed "video games"

and the texas lt.gov didn't blame "gun control" or "white nationalists"... but blamed in on the "lack of prayers said in schools"

so... its already happening....

i was always of the thought that is nothing changed after sandy hook or parkland... nothing was every changing again...

trump: gay night club shootings,if they had concealed weapons on them they could have fought back

trump: will NEVER restrict gun ownership

trump in 2000:"!I support the ban on assault weapons""

No place for guns 100% but unfortunately no president will ever pass this dem or rep

To be fair all presidents made statements and change them once in office

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist. "

You clearly are also racist

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Such a F*cked up country .

Race Hate in America is worse than most places in Europe f9r 1 reason .

They can buy big guns that can kill lots quickly

Yes non hate mass murders have the same problem.

They can buy big guns that kill lots quickly.

Glad i dont live there .

"

Me too but if I did live there I'd be buying myself some machine guns for protection

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist "

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Dont worry, we'll soon have many alt-right/ext-right groups downplaying this or the latter professing it's fake news and crisis actors.

it will be "thoughts and prayers".....

the number 4 republican in government has already blamed "video games"

and the texas lt.gov didn't blame "gun control" or "white nationalists"... but blamed in on the "lack of prayers said in schools"

so... its already happening....

i was always of the thought that is nothing changed after sandy hook or parkland... nothing was every changing again..."

There's too much profit in arms & ammunition to stop it now.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again."

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were "

Trump has a public record of racist statements

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

"

Just had a look online and Trumps comments and actions of racisim span back to 1976 with the looks of it.

People like him though, people vote for him and many will read his comments and not see anything racist about them.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

"

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ? "

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there."

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ? "

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?"

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London

[Removed by poster at 05/08/19 00:18:58]

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry"

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


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Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy."

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ah but most low skilled will try to cross illegally because the USA only wants mostly skilled workers because they have enough low skilled people of their own.

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uWrof_MrWao#

Bette o'rourke a past texas congressmen and a presidential candidate for 2020.

Is he holding back tears or is he actually laughing when asked about el.paso.

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By *ired_upMan  over a year ago

ashton

https://youtu.be/C9AXGPo1vvM

There we go. Watch that. Trump is responsible. Audience suggests shooting them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Trump makes statements which resonate with unsavoury and racist types in the US (and I suspect wider)

Hearing the president make such statements is, imo, makes them feel their is credibility in the extreme opinions and legitimises their actions.

Much like the race hate spike we saw for a few days after the referendum.

Does this make home a racist. Maybe not. He's too smart to say something clearly racist if he was one. But a lot of his statements fly close to the wind. And there are a lot of them.

But where he is more culpable is his lack of condemnation when someone does seem to have latched onto his comments.

He may not have said send them home, but that is clearly the message his supporters heard. And he didn't really seek to say no, that's not right. You shouldn't say that and I didnt mean that. Instead he doubles down.

He points out there are lots of good people in white extrist groups.. Yet is comfortable focusing on the bad people in the Mexican immigrants. Where is the clear condemnation of murder. Where is the not in my name statements.

And while I get he does get villainified and some pipele want to defend this percieevs injustice, I suspect people seeing such efforts to defend a man who is not condemning reinforces the idea there are a great number of people who see there is nothing to condem. After all, this is a thread on a massacre. That seems long since forgotten.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

US Justice Department: "This is domestic terrorism."

Trump: "This is mental illness."

Are they one and the same thing?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"US Justice Department: "This is domestic terrorism."

Trump: "This is mental illness."

Are they one and the same thing?"

What, Trump & mental illness? quite possibly

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By *ild_oatsMan  over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners


"US Justice Department: "This is domestic terrorism."

Trump: "This is mental illness."

Are they one and the same thing?"

America has the same conversation after each mass shooting, the inevitable debate about gun control versus mental-health care It becomes factionalised, politicised and nothing changes. Then the next mass shooting occurs and the rinse and repeat cycle occurs again.

America is so welded to the second amendment which is a hang over from the war of independence when there was not a standing army and there was a requirement for a citizen militia.

Unfortunately this has now become so ingrained within the psyche that any change is met with so much opposition by many vested interest groups and is stalled at the first hurdle.

Until any meaningful change is enacted mass shootings will continue to occur as America is trapped by it own helplessness.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"US Justice Department: "This is domestic terrorism."

Trump: "This is mental illness."

Are they one and the same thing?

America has the same conversation after each mass shooting, the inevitable debate about gun control versus mental-health care It becomes factionalised, politicised and nothing changes. Then the next mass shooting occurs and the rinse and repeat cycle occurs again.

America is so welded to the second amendment which is a hang over from the war of independence when there was not a standing army and there was a requirement for a citizen militia.

Unfortunately this has now become so ingrained within the psyche that any change is met with so much opposition by many vested interest groups and is stalled at the first hurdle.

Until any meaningful change is enacted mass shootings will continue to occur as America is trapped by it own helplessness.

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Unfortunately this is correct, it’s awful as so many believe in guns that if any candidate ( D or R ) runs with the policy of getting rid of guns they wouldn’t stand a chance of being elected

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"US Justice Department: "This is domestic terrorism."

Trump: "This is mental illness."

Are they one and the same thing?

What, Trump & mental illness? quite possibly "

Terrorism is a form of mental illness.

If you actually try to fix social inequality, meaningful interactions with people where you live and the provision of mental health care you will vastly improve this and much more besides.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Trump makes statements which resonate with unsavoury and racist types in the US (and I suspect wider)

Hearing the president make such statements is, imo, makes them feel their is credibility in the extreme opinions and legitimises their actions.

Much like the race hate spike we saw for a few days after the referendum.

Does this make home a racist. Maybe not. He's too smart to say something clearly racist if he was one. But a lot of his statements fly close to the wind. And there are a lot of them.

But where he is more culpable is his lack of condemnation when someone does seem to have latched onto his comments.

He may not have said send them home, but that is clearly the message his supporters heard. And he didn't really seek to say no, that's not right. You shouldn't say that and I didnt mean that. Instead he doubles down.

He points out there are lots of good people in white extrist groups.. Yet is comfortable focusing on the bad people in the Mexican immigrants. Where is the clear condemnation of murder. Where is the not in my name statements.

And while I get he does get villainified and some pipele want to defend this percieevs injustice, I suspect people seeing such efforts to defend a man who is not condemning reinforces the idea there are a great number of people who see there is nothing to condem. After all, this is a thread on a massacre. That seems long since forgotten. "

“Trump makes statements which resonate with unsavoury and racist types in the US (and I suspect wider)”

Well as he was voted in democratically as president it seems like a lot of people agree with what he says, are all of them unsavoury and racist ?

“Hearing the president make such statements is, imo, makes them feel their is credibility in the extreme opinions and legitimises their actions.”

Well isn’t that also the same for all politicians and their supporters ? Also statements by aoc concerning Israel or Ilhan concerning isis are also bad yeah ?

Glad you think he’s not a racist

He has openly and many times condemned the white suprematists ,, if you watch the whole vid concerning your point you will get the correct context not what your lead to believe.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

"A Southwest Ohio politician has stirred anger for a Sunday post on social media in which she blamed mass shootings on "drag queen advocates," "homosexual marriage," open borders and even former President Barack Obama.

"In the Facebook post, Ohio Rep. Candice Keller complained about liberals playing the "blame game" after every shooting and asked why not place the blame where it belongs. The Republican lives in Middletown, about 30 miles south of Dayton, where a gunman killed nine people early Sunday.

"Keller, in the post, placed the blame for mass shootings on "the breakdown of the traditional American family(thank you, transgender, homosexual marriage, and drag queen advocates); fatherlessness, a subject no one discusses or believes is relevant; the ignoring of violent video games; the relaxing of laws against criminals(open borders); the acceptance of recreational marijuana; failed school policies(hello, parents who defend misbehaving students): disrespect to law enforcement(thank you, Obama)."

- Greenville News

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump makes statements which resonate with unsavoury and racist types in the US (and I suspect wider)

Hearing the president make such statements is, imo, makes them feel their is credibility in the extreme opinions and legitimises their actions.

Much like the race hate spike we saw for a few days after the referendum.

Does this make home a racist. Maybe not. He's too smart to say something clearly racist if he was one. But a lot of his statements fly close to the wind. And there are a lot of them.

But where he is more culpable is his lack of condemnation when someone does seem to have latched onto his comments.

He may not have said send them home, but that is clearly the message his supporters heard. And he didn't really seek to say no, that's not right. You shouldn't say that and I didnt mean that. Instead he doubles down.

He points out there are lots of good people in white extrist groups.. Yet is comfortable focusing on the bad people in the Mexican immigrants. Where is the clear condemnation of murder. Where is the not in my name statements.

And while I get he does get villainified and some pipele want to defend this percieevs injustice, I suspect people seeing such efforts to defend a man who is not condemning reinforces the idea there are a great number of people who see there is nothing to condem. After all, this is a thread on a massacre. That seems long since forgotten.

“Trump makes statements which resonate with unsavoury and racist types in the US (and I suspect wider)”

Well as he was voted in democratically as president it seems like a lot of people agree with what he says, are all of them unsavoury and racist ?

“Hearing the president make such statements is, imo, makes them feel their is credibility in the extreme opinions and legitimises their actions.”

Well isn’t that also the same for all politicians and their supporters ? Also statements by aoc concerning Israel or Ilhan concerning isis are also bad yeah ?

Glad you think he’s not a racist

He has openly and many times condemned the white suprematists ,, if you watch the whole vid concerning your point you will get the correct context not what your lead to believe."

I knew I should have said that not all trump followers are racist. I'd hoped noone would go down that erroneous logic route. All cats are mammals but not all mammals are cats etc etc. (and before anyone reacts I am also not saying all racists are trump supporters)

Im not 100% sure what your point about all politicans means. Maybe all politicians say things which could be leaped on by extremists. However I'd hope politicians would correct misinterpretation.

His condemnation of the send them home wasn't great. Didn't he say he sped up when he didn't. Either way, he should have silenced them. Explained what he meant and that send them home was not appropriate. I'm not aware he did this. It seemed he doubled down.

Which video are you referring to? Again, I'd hope a leader to make an unequivocal and unambiguous statement. As someone who thrives in tweets, has he outright condemned the actions?

I will admit, I don't pay too much attention across the sea, so could be influenced by selective cutting.

But would hope the message is so clear it is not possible.

However trump threads seem to be people picking up on nuances. Imo it shouldn't be like that.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


""A Southwest Ohio politician has stirred anger for a Sunday post on social media in which she blamed mass shootings on "drag queen advocates," "homosexual marriage," open borders and even former President Barack Obama.

"In the Facebook post, Ohio Rep. Candice Keller complained about liberals playing the "blame game" after every shooting and asked why not place the blame where it belongs. The Republican lives in Middletown, about 30 miles south of Dayton, where a gunman killed nine people early Sunday.

"Keller, in the post, placed the blame for mass shootings on "the breakdown of the traditional American family(thank you, transgender, homosexual marriage, and drag queen advocates); fatherlessness, a subject no one discusses or believes is relevant; the ignoring of violent video games; the relaxing of laws against criminals(open borders); the acceptance of recreational marijuana; failed school policies(hello, parents who defend misbehaving students): disrespect to law enforcement(thank you, Obama)."

- Greenville News

"

Not once did you mention hitler or trump, well done, soooooo was this shooting then not trumps doing ?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Trump makes statements which resonate with unsavoury and racist types in the US (and I suspect wider)

Hearing the president make such statements is, imo, makes them feel their is credibility in the extreme opinions and legitimises their actions.

Much like the race hate spike we saw for a few days after the referendum.

Does this make home a racist. Maybe not. He's too smart to say something clearly racist if he was one. But a lot of his statements fly close to the wind. And there are a lot of them.

But where he is more culpable is his lack of condemnation when someone does seem to have latched onto his comments.

He may not have said send them home, but that is clearly the message his supporters heard. And he didn't really seek to say no, that's not right. You shouldn't say that and I didnt mean that. Instead he doubles down.

He points out there are lots of good people in white extrist groups.. Yet is comfortable focusing on the bad people in the Mexican immigrants. Where is the clear condemnation of murder. Where is the not in my name statements.

And while I get he does get villainified and some pipele want to defend this percieevs injustice, I suspect people seeing such efforts to defend a man who is not condemning reinforces the idea there are a great number of people who see there is nothing to condem. After all, this is a thread on a massacre. That seems long since forgotten.

“Trump makes statements which resonate with unsavoury and racist types in the US (and I suspect wider)”

Well as he was voted in democratically as president it seems like a lot of people agree with what he says, are all of them unsavoury and racist ?

“Hearing the president make such statements is, imo, makes them feel their is credibility in the extreme opinions and legitimises their actions.”

Well isn’t that also the same for all politicians and their supporters ? Also statements by aoc concerning Israel or Ilhan concerning isis are also bad yeah ?

Glad you think he’s not a racist

He has openly and many times condemned the white suprematists ,, if you watch the whole vid concerning your point you will get the correct context not what your lead to believe.

I knew I should have said that not all trump followers are racist. I'd hoped noone would go down that erroneous logic route. All cats are mammals but not all mammals are cats etc etc. (and before anyone reacts I am also not saying all racists are trump supporters)

Im not 100% sure what your point about all politicans means. Maybe all politicians say things which could be leaped on by extremists. However I'd hope politicians would correct misinterpretation.

His condemnation of the send them home wasn't great. Didn't he say he sped up when he didn't. Either way, he should have silenced them. Explained what he meant and that send them home was not appropriate. I'm not aware he did this. It seemed he doubled down.

Which video are you referring to? Again, I'd hope a leader to make an unequivocal and unambiguous statement. As someone who thrives in tweets, has he outright condemned the actions?

I will admit, I don't pay too much attention across the sea, so could be influenced by selective cutting.

But would hope the message is so clear it is not possible.

However trump threads seem to be people picking up on nuances. Imo it shouldn't be like that. "

That was nicely put and of course we don’t agree on everything and it’s good to talk and wish the left would do more and not be so blinkered

With the all politician thing was that all there followers can get behind and act on there view it’s just trump is president and has trying to put America first so his view sound harsher ( but not racist ) an example aoc has gone on about concentration camps and a guy acted on that recently and was luckily shot ,, was that her fault ? No but was this one trumps ? No also

The some are good bit is taken from a larger speech that that completely condemns them but is cut to make it looks like he supports them.

I’m not a particular fan of trump but I will stick up for anyone who is lied about and what I’ve learned with trump is if the media is saying something is bad it’s best to either read the full interview or watch the whole speech as it usually makes sense then

Of course this is just my opinion and I thank you for yours

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental

Most, if not all of Trumps speaches, interviews and statements are cut up on the editing floor to suit narratives. This is where all the hatred starts being flung at Trump. because the majority of people watch a 15 second or 30 second clip or a cut and paste clip, that highlights certain words, phrases, rhetoric that fit the highly explosive and devisive narratives and agendas of the MSM and political opposition. Everything is taken way out of context. It's harmful, Its wrong and it incites.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Most, if not all of Trumps speaches, interviews and statements are cut up on the editing floor to suit narratives. This is where all the hatred starts being flung at Trump. because the majority of people watch a 15 second or 30 second clip or a cut and paste clip, that highlights certain words, phrases, rhetoric that fit the highly explosive and devisive narratives and agendas of the MSM and political opposition. Everything is taken way out of context. It's harmful, Its wrong and it incites. "

so what do you make of todays speech then...

he was reading it of a prepared script and still managed to get "Dayton" wrong... calling it "Toledo" instead...

just fact it... the mans an idiot!

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Most, if not all of Trumps speaches, interviews and statements are cut up on the editing floor to suit narratives. This is where all the hatred starts being flung at Trump. because the majority of people watch a 15 second or 30 second clip or a cut and paste clip, that highlights certain words, phrases, rhetoric that fit the highly explosive and devisive narratives and agendas of the MSM and political opposition. Everything is taken way out of context. It's harmful, Its wrong and it incites. "

erm... we have a million and one official satatements and tweets from him so what would you like to claim is being "taken out of context"....

if the man has "previous" then call him out....

i get that some people want to be apologists for him, but hey, if you want to try and "defend the indefensible"... then have at it....

anyway, the man's an idiot.......

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool

This American woman on sky news now.

"If a person wanted to go out and hurt lots of people then they could go and do that using...fertilizer, its unfair to take away guns from law abiding citizens"

This right here is the mentality of americans and there is no hope for people with a mind set like this.

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental


"Most, if not all of Trumps speaches, interviews and statements are cut up on the editing floor to suit narratives. This is where all the hatred starts being flung at Trump. because the majority of people watch a 15 second or 30 second clip or a cut and paste clip, that highlights certain words, phrases, rhetoric that fit the highly explosive and devisive narratives and agendas of the MSM and political opposition. Everything is taken way out of context. It's harmful, Its wrong and it incites.

so what do you make of todays speech then...

he was reading it of a prepared script and still managed to get "Dayton" wrong... calling it "Toledo" instead...

just fact it... the mans an idiot! "

I wholey accept you hate Trump, Fabio. It would be nice just to have a few days off from the constant bollocks that's flung at him from the MSM and folk that hate him. I'm no fan, but it's getting ridiculous,to the point where its getting harmful, unbalanced and wrong. Even if he is from a non political background and comes across as an idiot.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Most, if not all of Trumps speaches, interviews and statements are cut up on the editing floor to suit narratives. This is where all the hatred starts being flung at Trump. because the majority of people watch a 15 second or 30 second clip or a cut and paste clip, that highlights certain words, phrases, rhetoric that fit the highly explosive and devisive narratives and agendas of the MSM and political opposition. Everything is taken way out of context. It's harmful, Its wrong and it incites.

so what do you make of todays speech then...

he was reading it of a prepared script and still managed to get "Dayton" wrong... calling it "Toledo" instead...

just fact it... the mans an idiot! "

Lol your so hard for trump

Don’t think anyone thinks trump isn’t a bit of a plank, and after that speech all you got was that error lol your so funny

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Most, if not all of Trumps speaches, interviews and statements are cut up on the editing floor to suit narratives. This is where all the hatred starts being flung at Trump. because the majority of people watch a 15 second or 30 second clip or a cut and paste clip, that highlights certain words, phrases, rhetoric that fit the highly explosive and devisive narratives and agendas of the MSM and political opposition. Everything is taken way out of context. It's harmful, Its wrong and it incites.

erm... we have a million and one official satatements and tweets from him so what would you like to claim is being "taken out of context"....

if the man has "previous" then call him out....

i get that some people want to be apologists for him, but hey, if you want to try and "defend the indefensible"... then have at it....

anyway, the man's an idiot......."

I think the gentleman was stating what happens to trump in the media, that is true, so it’s you to say the crime or statement let us know and I’m sure someone can point out your error, ps weren’t we discussing late term abortion and these very same topics recently?

Strange as you always seem to disappear when it dosent seem to go your way hmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Texas supermarket shooter (20 dead so far) is believed to have used an extremist website to justify his massacre as “a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas”.

El Paso police chief Greg Allen said on Saturday night that authorities were examining a manifesto from the suspect and said “there is a potential nexus to a hate crime”.

But a four-page statement posted on 8chan, an online message board often used by extremists, and believed to have been authored by the suspect, called the Walmart attack “a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas”.

Beto O’Rourke, who is from El Paso, said Trump is to blame for right-wing extremists:

“We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years during an administration where you have a president who has called Mexicans rapists and criminals, though Mexican immigrants commit crimes at a far lower rate than people born in this country.

“He has tried to make us afraid of them … attempting to ban all Muslims from this country. The day that he signed that executive order the mosque in Victoria, Texas was burned to the ground. Those chants that we heard in Greenville North Carolina – ‘send her back’ – talking about fellow American citizens duly elected to represent their constituents in Congress …

“He is a racist. He is stoking racism in this country ... and it fundamentally changes the character of the country and leads to violence.”

What do you think?"

.

I think there's crazy people that believe all sorts of shit, I read most of yours so I know it's true.

Hate exist, race exists, extremists exist in all colours and political persuasions.

Everybody in the middle is going to have to come together to have sensible discussions without throwing mud or we can continue down the path of the extremists of who's willing to be most violent to achieve the results without debate?.

Four black guys who gather in a room to be proud of being black with Jamaican heritage are not extremists and neither are four white guys from England or Scotland, it's part of people's identity,telling four black guys to stop being proud and accept assimilation is just as pointless and stupid as telling the four white guys to accept the agenda of ever increasing black immigration, or in this case Hispanic.

Somewhere in the middle sensible people have to have an honest discussion about identity and nationality and have a reasonable outlook on how much and how quickly inevitable changes take place to allow for orderly societal transition.

If everybody one side is a Nazi and everybody on the other side is a communist then sadly inevitably you'll repeat history.

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental

As I have previously stated, all you Trump hating American citizens get another crack at the prize in 2020. Another chance to vote a better President in no doubt going on the sheer vitriol that abounds for Trump. Unless of course you can get rid of the president by the impeachment process that many believe will happen.

Personally I couldn't give a toss who runs the USA, the UK or the EU they are all a bunch of morons, governing over a bunch of sheep.

Governments steal your money, fuck your head and divide and conquer. They have certainly done a marvelous job on here driving in that wedge!

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


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Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )"

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book."

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??"

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it."

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also "

No.

I've read all of them.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them."

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all"

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

"

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself "

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The vast vast vast majority of gun murders are in multi decade democratic lead States!.

Gun law is controlled by an large at state level all those states have tough gun laws and yet criminals manage to by pass them, virtually all the mass shooters have an other habit of drug taking either legal drugs or skunk, somehow the democratic States legalise marijuana as being harmless???.

I mean wtf!!.

There's sensible laws and regulations that could be passed but the republicans think owning a rocket launcher should be legal and the Dems think getting off your tits on drugs is fine, when you combine there policies you get what you get in the USA, that's the state of democracy today.

Of course there's a very simple solution to all this shit, give citizens referenda on gun laws that have to be compulsory applied at federal level and while we're at it give them referenda on immigration, drug laws, abortion.

We have nothing to fear but fear itself.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself."

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Talking of mental illness and crime, this is from the Daily Mirror:

"The teenager charged with throwing a six-year-old boy off a balcony at the Tate Modern was a schizophrenia patient who had slipped away from his carers, it is claimed.

"The suspect reportedly stayed at a 'secure home' and was only allowed to leave with at least two minders accompanying him.

"Police are said to be investigating whether the teen left his accommodation without permission or whether he went missing on a trip out.

"The 17-year-old has been charged with attempted murder after the boy was thrown 100ft off a balcony at the Tate Modern, in south London, on Sunday.

"The youth will appear at Bromley Youth Court on Tuesday accused of trying to kill the child, who is a French national visiting London with his family."

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By *eavenNhellCouple  over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Talking of mental illness and crime, this is from the Daily Mirror:

"The teenager charged with throwing a six-year-old boy off a balcony at the Tate Modern was a schizophrenia patient who had slipped away from his carers, it is claimed.

"The suspect reportedly stayed at a 'secure home' and was only allowed to leave with at least two minders accompanying him.

"Police are said to be investigating whether the teen left his accommodation without permission or whether he went missing on a trip out.

"The 17-year-old has been charged with attempted murder after the boy was thrown 100ft off a balcony at the Tate Modern, in south London, on Sunday.

"The youth will appear at Bromley Youth Court on Tuesday accused of trying to kill the child, who is a French national visiting London with his family.""

now imagine the carnage this person could of caused if they had easy access to military grade assault weapons when they were in a disturbed state

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

That's exactly what I thought, too.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Talking of mental illness and crime, this is from the Daily Mirror:

"The teenager charged with throwing a six-year-old boy off a balcony at the Tate Modern was a schizophrenia patient who had slipped away from his carers, it is claimed.

"The suspect reportedly stayed at a 'secure home' and was only allowed to leave with at least two minders accompanying him.

"Police are said to be investigating whether the teen left his accommodation without permission or whether he went missing on a trip out.

"The 17-year-old has been charged with attempted murder after the boy was thrown 100ft off a balcony at the Tate Modern, in south London, on Sunday.

"The youth will appear at Bromley Youth Court on Tuesday accused of trying to kill the child, who is a French national visiting London with his family.""

Shit that’s awful, know this is off topic a bit but is there more we can do concerning mental health ? As it’s something I know very little about

Is a case of more medication or more isolation, surly that’s worse but is it what needs to be done ? Only asking as I really don’t know

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x"

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming."

Great debating skill fair play x

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x"

Much like your own chief.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x

Much like your own chief."

World class come back right there lol x

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x

Much like your own chief.

World class come back right there lol x"

Ditto. I can do this all day.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Oh my goodness!

Am I the only one who loses the plot when every post replies to 20-odd before?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x

Much like your own chief.

World class come back right there lol x

Ditto. I can do this all day."

You do know when you don’t show originality on these type of things you look a little silly.

As you like to copy let me do your response for you “ yeah I do, do you ? “

Lol

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x

Much like your own chief.

World class come back right there lol x

Ditto. I can do this all day.

You do know when you don’t show originality on these type of things you look a little silly.

As you like to copy let me do your response for you “ yeah I do, do you ? “

Lol"

You're entitled to an opinion, even if it's ridiculous.

"LOLz"

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"Oh my goodness!

Am I the only one who loses the plot when every post replies to 20-odd before?"

You're not. It's ridiculous and makes the topic borderline unreadable. Even without Pretty Good's special line of drivel.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x

Much like your own chief.

World class come back right there lol x

Ditto. I can do this all day.

You do know when you don’t show originality on these type of things you look a little silly.

As you like to copy let me do your response for you “ yeah I do, do you ? “

Lol

You're entitled to an opinion, even if it's ridiculous.

"LOLz""

Lol sorry I’m not sure this is even fair wow ,, urrrmm so remember you were trying to prove trump was racist but failed, would you like to pick that up again , or you happy with this awful display ?

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x

Much like your own chief.

World class come back right there lol x

Ditto. I can do this all day.

You do know when you don’t show originality on these type of things you look a little silly.

As you like to copy let me do your response for you “ yeah I do, do you ? “

Lol

You're entitled to an opinion, even if it's ridiculous.

"LOLz"

Lol sorry I’m not sure this is even fair wow ,, urrrmm so remember you were trying to prove trump was racist but failed, would you like to pick that up again , or you happy with this awful display ? "

I explained it to you once. You ignored it.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x

Much like your own chief.

World class come back right there lol x

Ditto. I can do this all day.

You do know when you don’t show originality on these type of things you look a little silly.

As you like to copy let me do your response for you “ yeah I do, do you ? “

Lol

You're entitled to an opinion, even if it's ridiculous.

"LOLz"

Lol sorry I’m not sure this is even fair wow ,, urrrmm so remember you were trying to prove trump was racist but failed, would you like to pick that up again , or you happy with this awful display ?

I explained it to you once. You ignored it. "

O wow you need to go back over this thread again as I pointed out and proved how and why you were wrong ages a go

Hang on as your a couple am I now talking to the pretty one as opposed to the brainier ( term used very loosely) from the other day ? That might explain it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wonder why this thread about a far-right nut-job going on a massacring spree has over 172 posts, but the one where the far-left, anti-fa supporting nut-job going on a massacring spree only has 49? It's as though lefties are frightened of owning up to having just as many nasty cunts amongst their ranks. Or is it just ignorance of reality?

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

How odd.

You complain not enough people are posting to a certain thread.

By posting on a different one.

Hmmm.

I'm sure it makes sense to you.

Why not post your complaint to the complaints department on the thread you care about?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"I wonder why this thread about a far-right nut-job going on a massacring spree has over 172 posts, but the one where the far-left, anti-fa supporting nut-job going on a massacring spree only has 49? It's as though lefties are frightened of owning up to having just as many nasty cunts amongst their ranks. Or is it just ignorance of reality?"

To many leftist fb reading fairies on here I’m afraid

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"

Actually do you think he is asking people to kill people on his behalf?

its interesting that he is going on twitter and deleting all his tweets that mentioned the word "invasion" of immigrants.... probably because the el paso gunman used the same wording in his "manifesto"

even though the courts ruled that he couldn't because they are official whitehouse records...

but anyway.... i am sure our righties will say this is "sheer conincidence"....

Well as your fully aware I’m not a trump supporter and I would stick up for anyone that is being lied about ,,, if he’s breaking the law I hope he is correctly punished by the law

In relation to the racist cunts manifesto I found the following

Looked online and all I could find about this manifesto the guy posted wasn't much, if I have missed stuff I’m sure you will let me know,

His motivation

The unsigned manifesto, titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” draws direct inspiration from the mass murder of Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand in March that left 51 people dead. In that attack, the alleged killer published a manifesto online promoting a white supremacy

On Trump

“My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president,” the document says.

The guy is a racist cunt simple, but sorry trump is not

Also not sure you remember we were discussing late term abortion on another tread but you went quiet ??

Trump's cleary racist.

You clearly are also racist

Based on what? My public record of racist statements? Try again.

Well I just assumed it was ok to make up stuff as you were

Trump has a public record of racist statements

Hay I’m 100% against racism, what did he say ?

How about you start with his relatively recent comments about Mexicans being rapists and work back from there.

O I thought you had something then. Guess you only got the little bit of it from the media

The full quote from trump was

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Anything else ?

So, you see nothing racist about this statement?

He supports legal immigration not illegal immigration,

Is it not common knowledge that a huge amount of people crossing the border illegally are being r*p*d, children also and all females are given birth control when they get detained.

He also didn’t saying that all Mexicans are r*p*s*s, there are also bad people in england, Wales, scotland and Iceland that are ra*i*t*, dosent make his statement racist or incorrect sorry

No, it's not common knowledge, and even if it were those crossing aren't doing the r*ping. Also, Mexico isn't 'sending' people. He doesn't say 'all' but he caveats his exception by saying 'I assume'.

Put all this in context of his countless other statements and he's clearly racist.

You're apologising on his behalf. Despite his record. Classy.

If you show me he’s racist I promise i will be there right with you, this world has no room for racism, but I’m not going to twist words or spin stuff like people who hate him do

Unfortunately it is common knowledge and yes they are, he is also saying that not all the ones crossing are bad.

But let’s say for example and please be honest, if you had nothing to hide, no criminal record or you weren’t involved with drugs etc. Would you try to enter legally?

I’m only guessing but I’m sure your answer is yes

So why do you think they are trying to cross illegally?

Please be honest

Sorry but not once did he say all Mexicans are ( the word I’m not allowed to type )

I've just shown you he's racist but you ignore the facts.

And there are many reasons people would cross illegally. I suggest you read a book.

What ?? Really?? What fact ??

Ok what book and what reason would they have to cross illegally ? Please keep in mind I accept maybe 10% have a reason but what about the other 90% ??

The ones you ignored.

And here's a starting list:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2018/03/13/reading-list-12-recommended-reads-on-immigration-refugee-rights-and-asylum/

You know they've invented this amazing thing called the internet. You should try it.

Ok well I’ve gone over the thread and haven’t seen you state any racist facts ?? Sorry could you let me know what you mean

Ok let me know what book you read and I will read it also

No.

I've read all of them.

Ok well I guess that didn’t go as you planned, love not hate, don’t accuse people of racism if you can’t prove it

And no you didn’t read them all

It went exactly as planned thanks. Trump. Racist. Proven.

And why didn't I read them all.

Don't accuse people of lying if you can't prove it.

Lol you just lied again, you can’t help yourself

Lol you just typed bollox again, you can't help yourself.

Aww babe come on your looking silly now, future reference if your debating stuff you need facts ok, that ones for free x

Ok pumpkin. Keep dreaming.

Great debating skill fair play x

Much like your own chief.

World class come back right there lol x

Ditto. I can do this all day.

You do know when you don’t show originality on these type of things you look a little silly.

As you like to copy let me do your response for you “ yeah I do, do you ? “

Lol

You're entitled to an opinion, even if it's ridiculous.

"LOLz"

Lol sorry I’m not sure this is even fair wow ,, urrrmm so remember you were trying to prove trump was racist but failed, would you like to pick that up again , or you happy with this awful display ?

I explained it to you once. You ignored it.

O wow you need to go back over this thread again as I pointed out and proved how and why you were wrong ages a go

Hang on as your a couple am I now talking to the pretty one as opposed to the brainier ( term used very loosely) from the other day ? That might explain it "

Wow. So the woman is less intelligent. Misogynistic as well as a racist apologiser. Amazing.

It's the same person. I just got bored of debating a child who'd swear black was white.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How odd.

You complain not enough people are posting to a certain thread.

By posting on a different one.

Hmmm.

I'm sure it makes sense to you.

Why not post your complaint to the complaints department on the thread you care about?"

No, it isn't odd at all - ridiculous assertion. The left seem to be studiously avoiding that thread, and I asked why. None of you seem to be able, or have the courage, to answer that question. You yourself posted just once on that thread, and said "Neo-Nazi networks in the US, I imagine", which is the sort of blinkered ignorance supporters of the left seem to have in common.

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