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Is the Brexit Party bus legally operated?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Who owns the bus?
Who operates the bus?
Does it require an operators licence? If so, who is the TM / licence holder?
Should seatbelts be fitted / worn?
Does it operate as a private vehicle, or does it operate under either GB or European regulations?
Does it have a tachograph installed and/or calibrated?
What is it's legal operating centre / base?
For which Euro standard is it's emissions rated?
Is standing on the top deck legally permissible whilst the vehicle is in motion?
Just wondering if it's one rule for us and one rule for them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who owns the bus?
Who operates the bus?
Does it require an operators licence? If so, who is the TM / licence holder?
Should seatbelts be fitted / worn?
Does it operate as a private vehicle, or does it operate under either GB or European regulations?
Does it have a tachograph installed and/or calibrated?
What is it's legal operating centre / base?
For which Euro standard is it's emissions rated?
Is standing on the top deck legally permissible whilst the vehicle is in motion?
Just wondering if it's one rule for us and one rule for them?"
Last I saw online the Brexit Party bus was abandoned broken down in a country lay by |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The wheels on da bus go round and round  "
Yes, but it's interesting, given that bus driving is one of the most regulated industries in the UK.
As for wheels, if you gurgle the registration number of the big red bus with the infamous £350gazillion per week on the side, you'll find it has been previously used with other paint jobs, and was indeed once photographed doing a U turn in Whitehall.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Who owns the bus?
Who operates the bus?
Does it require an operators licence? If so, who is the TM / licence holder?
Should seatbelts be fitted / worn?
Does it operate as a private vehicle, or does it operate under either GB or European regulations?
Does it have a tachograph installed and/or calibrated?
What is it's legal operating centre / base?
For which Euro standard is it's emissions rated?
Is standing on the top deck legally permissible whilst the vehicle is in motion?
Just wondering if it's one rule for us and one rule for them?
Last I saw online the Brexit Party bus was abandoned broken down in a country lay by "
Sheesh, abandoned vehicles and fly tipping in country laybys huh?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Oh, you cannae shove yer granny off the bus!
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Off the bus.
That reminds me. I was sat on the bus when I was in my teenage years. The bus was full. A little old lady got on board and demanded that I give up my seat for her "because her bones were older than mine" and therefore she should be allowed to sit down..
I refused and pointed out that since my bones were younger than hers, they have much longer to last and therefore my bones needed resting more than hers.....
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"Oh, you cannae shove yer granny off the bus!
Off the bus.
That reminds me. I was sat on the bus when I was in my teenage years. The bus was full. A little old lady got on board and demanded that I give up my seat for her "because her bones were older than mine" and therefore she should be allowed to sit down..
I refused and pointed out that since my bones were younger than hers, they have much longer to last and therefore my bones needed resting more than hers.....
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That's funny. |
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"Oh, you cannae shove yer granny off the bus!
Off the bus.
That reminds me. I was sat on the bus when I was in my teenage years. The bus was full. A little old lady got on board and demanded that I give up my seat for her "because her bones were older than mine" and therefore she should be allowed to sit down..
I refused and pointed out that since my bones were younger than hers, they have much longer to last and therefore my bones needed resting more than hers.....
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Her bones may have given up some of their calcium for yours, so it was payback time. Our areas transportation systems ensured those who were infirm and elderly sat on you |
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"Oh, you cannae shove yer granny off the bus!
Off the bus.
That reminds me. I was sat on the bus when I was in my teenage years. The bus was full. A little old lady got on board and demanded that I give up my seat for her "because her bones were older than mine" and therefore she should be allowed to sit down..
I refused and pointed out that since my bones were younger than hers, they have much longer to last and therefore my bones needed resting more than hers.....
That's funny. "
No its not if its true then he is an extremely nasty man with no manners who has no respect for women |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Oh, you cannae shove yer granny off the bus!
Off the bus.
That reminds me. I was sat on the bus when I was in my teenage years. The bus was full. A little old lady got on board and demanded that I give up my seat for her "because her bones were older than mine" and therefore she should be allowed to sit down..
I refused and pointed out that since my bones were younger than hers, they have much longer to last and therefore my bones needed resting more than hers.....
That's funny.
No its not if its true then he is an extremely nasty man with no manners who has no respect for women"
I can confirm it was intended as a joke / light hearted thing.
I can also confirm that when I have shared the same joke in real life with elderly people, they have found it very amusing.
However, I can also confirm that I have been very serious about refusing to allow little old ladies to sit on my seat on the bus. This has happened more than once. This happened only last week. There I was, sat on my seat on the bus when a little old lady with a white stick climbed onboard and demanded that I give up my seat for her to sit on. I refused point blank and told here that since the bus was full, she should immediately leave the bus and wait for the next one.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I too refused to give up my seat on the bus once. I told them that the company takes a dim view of me letting someone else drive. "
Damn, you've stolen my punchline....
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By *omaMan
over a year ago
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The Brexit party bus may have been leased from a coach supply company/dealer.
As it wasn't used for hire or reward then I don't think an operator's licence would have been required.
The driver on the other hand would need to insert his tacho card and record its every journey.
If it was hired from a coach company then all rules would have been complied with.
Many many coach operators from Scotland were used in the miners strike to ferry strike busters into the collieries. These had their operator discs hidden and legal lettering ( which is now not required) removed by the police.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The Brexit party bus may have been leased from a coach supply company/dealer.
As it wasn't used for hire or reward then I don't think an operator's licence would have been required.
The driver on the other hand would need to insert his tacho card and record its every journey.
If it was hired from a coach company then all rules would have been complied with.
Many many coach operators from Scotland were used in the miners strike to ferry strike busters into the collieries. These had their operator discs hidden and legal lettering ( which is now not required) removed by the police.
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At one point in time, the bus was in Kings Ferry livery (When it did a U Turn in Whitehall).
Hire or reward is a very, very grey area for people who like a good argument! For example, is the driver being paid a wage, earning a profit? Have the passengers or their representatives paid any money for the use of or costs of the bus?
As for tachograph, if it was not used for hire or reward and / or without an operators licence, then would it also be derestricted, able to cruise at 70mph on motorways, and indeed would a tachograph really need to be inserted? If yes, would it be operating under GB rules, EU rules or AETR rules? Would the working time directive apply? How would all this affect the number of seats fitted inside the bus? Woulod it be subject to a different rate or road tax? How would this affect the emissions requirements for driving inside London?
Finally, if it was operated NOT for hire and reward, with no operators licence, then how would this affect the liability for the congestion charge?
Even the official coach operated by the Russian embassy has an operators licence and official operating centre, even though it is allocated diplomatic number plates. (Now that is a bus I'd love to drive - Parking warden on Shaftsbury Avenue "You can't park that bus here" Me "Watch me.")
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