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"Hitchens's Law: All politically significant statistics are fiddled." This.. Every Government lies about them and how much they are investing etc.. | |||
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"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. " very true but where they getting their money?  | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. " LOL very true | |||
"Is it the independent ONS who collect and produce the the data for this?" I thought this too, though read the tories added extra criteria to be used in th 1980s, so not as independent as i thought | |||
"Is it the independent ONS who collect and produce the the data for this? I thought this too, though read the tories added extra criteria to be used in th 1980s, so not as independent as i thought " The ONS came in to being from 1996 when 2 departments were merged. Gordon Brown in 2005 announced they would legislate for the ONS and the statistics it produced to be independent of government. This was legislated in the Statistics and Registration Service Act of 2007. how does the 1980s affect the 2019 figures? | |||
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"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. very true but where they getting their money? "Mummy and Daddy. | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. very true but where they getting their money?
Mummy and Daddy. "The protests are quite often on a weekend. People can also take a day off. Just saying  | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. very true but where they getting their money?
Mummy and Daddy. " | |||
"Is it the independent ONS who collect and produce the the data for this? I thought this too, though read the tories added extra criteria to be used in th 1980s, so not as independent as i thought The ONS came in to being from 1996 when 2 departments were merged. Gordon Brown in 2005 announced they would legislate for the ONS and the statistics it produced to be independent of government. This was legislated in the Statistics and Registration Service Act of 2007. how does the 1980s affect the 2019 figures? " I didn't. Only mentioned the data was influenced from the 80s. As for the ons equivalent it derived from i suppose | |||
"Is it the independent ONS who collect and produce the the data for this? I thought this too, though read the tories added extra criteria to be used in th 1980s, so not as independent as i thought The ONS came in to being from 1996 when 2 departments were merged. Gordon Brown in 2005 announced they would legislate for the ONS and the statistics it produced to be independent of government. This was legislated in the Statistics and Registration Service Act of 2007. how does the 1980s affect the 2019 figures? I didn't. Only mentioned the data was influenced from the 80s. As for the ons equivalent it derived from i suppose " I guess that’s why an independent body was created, as the figures from previous years were open to manipulation by the government of the day. | |||
"Is it the independent ONS who collect and produce the the data for this? I thought this too, though read the tories added extra criteria to be used in th 1980s, so not as independent as i thought The ONS came in to being from 1996 when 2 departments were merged. Gordon Brown in 2005 announced they would legislate for the ONS and the statistics it produced to be independent of government. This was legislated in the Statistics and Registration Service Act of 2007. how does the 1980s affect the 2019 figures? I didn't. Only mentioned the data was influenced from the 80s. As for the ons equivalent it derived from i suppose I guess that’s why an independent body was created, as the figures from previous years were open to manipulation by the government of the day." To some extent. The definition is consistent over time and over borders. It's reasonably consistent but you have to look into the detail of how it's calculated to see how it can become misleading, even if by accident. Zero hours contracts weren't really a thing when these definitions were created. | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. " Maybe if they put as much effort into acheiving something in their career/ life they would get a sense of self worth and realise things aren't that bad.
Shitload of people on here could do with that too  So much negativity  | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. Maybe if they put as much effort into acheiving something in their career/ life they would get a sense of self worth and realise things aren't that bad.
Shitload of people on here could do with that too So much negativity " | |||
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"Man tries solving all his problems with optimism 24th July 2019 A MAN inspired by Boris Johnson is to try to solve every problem he faces today with nothing more than sheer optimism. Nathan Muir has decided that, since optimism can solve trade negotiations, overcome parliamentary opposition and put a man on the moon, it can probably perform similar miracles in everyday life. He said: “Slept in this morning. I’m still gonna make it to work on time. You know why? Looking on the bright side mate. “Then, undaunted by my verbal warning for lateness, I beat the recurring problem of low sales by telling everyone it’d be fine. Better than fine. Brilliant. “After that I had three pints at lunch – who says it impairs my ability to work? Glass half-empty types – I told Rachel in accounts that she should join me and my girlfriend for a threesome, and that she’d love it. Because I really believe she would. “Technically fired, I made my way home knowing I’ll be welcomed back with a promotion tomorrow, only to find Rachel told my girlfriend. Still, what a marvellous night to sleep on the street with all my things.” Brexiter Tom Logan said: “Well it’s obvious where he went wrong. Not optimistic enough.”" Cut and pasting something twice lol, come on your better than that ,,,,,,,, or ,,,,, awkward | |||
"Man tries solving all his problems with optimism 24th July 2019 A MAN inspired by Boris Johnson is to try to solve every problem he faces today with nothing more than sheer optimism. Nathan Muir has decided that, since optimism can solve trade negotiations, overcome parliamentary opposition and put a man on the moon, it can probably perform similar miracles in everyday life. He said: “Slept in this morning. I’m still gonna make it to work on time. You know why? Looking on the bright side mate. “Then, undaunted by my verbal warning for lateness, I beat the recurring problem of low sales by telling everyone it’d be fine. Better than fine. Brilliant. “After that I had three pints at lunch – who says it impairs my ability to work? Glass half-empty types – I told Rachel in accounts that she should join me and my girlfriend for a threesome, and that she’d love it. Because I really believe she would. “Technically fired, I made my way home knowing I’ll be welcomed back with a promotion tomorrow, only to find Rachel told my girlfriend. Still, what a marvellous night to sleep on the street with all my things.” Brexiter Tom Logan said: “Well it’s obvious where he went wrong. Not optimistic enough.” Cut and pasting something twice lol, come on your better than that ,,,,,,,, or ,,,,, awkward " Daily Mash Enjoy
Are you a little obsessed by me? You seem to be quite attached to me sweetie  | |||
"Man tries solving all his problems with optimism 24th July 2019 A MAN inspired by Boris Johnson is to try to solve every problem he faces today with nothing more than sheer optimism. Nathan Muir has decided that, since optimism can solve trade negotiations, overcome parliamentary opposition and put a man on the moon, it can probably perform similar miracles in everyday life. He said: “Slept in this morning. I’m still gonna make it to work on time. You know why? Looking on the bright side mate. “Then, undaunted by my verbal warning for lateness, I beat the recurring problem of low sales by telling everyone it’d be fine. Better than fine. Brilliant. “After that I had three pints at lunch – who says it impairs my ability to work? Glass half-empty types – I told Rachel in accounts that she should join me and my girlfriend for a threesome, and that she’d love it. Because I really believe she would. “Technically fired, I made my way home knowing I’ll be welcomed back with a promotion tomorrow, only to find Rachel told my girlfriend. Still, what a marvellous night to sleep on the street with all my things.” Brexiter Tom Logan said: “Well it’s obvious where he went wrong. Not optimistic enough.” Cut and pasting something twice lol, come on your better than that ,,,,,,,, or ,,,,, awkward Daily Mash Enjoy
Are you a little obsessed by me? You seem to be quite attached to me sweetie "Ok another thing to add to the list about yourself, is not very good at comebacks. Must try harder come on imagine the socialist revolution relies solely on you, up your game | |||
" Cut and pasting something twice lol, come on your better than that ,,,,,,,, or ,,,,, awkward Daily Mash Enjoy
Are you a little obsessed by me? You seem to be quite attached to me sweetie
Ok another thing to add to the list about yourself, is not very good at comebacks.
Must try harder come on imagine the socialist revolution relies solely on you, up your game "I don't have to try at all. You also seem to be labouring under a misapprehension. Not defending Trump's racist tweets does not make me either a socialist. I could well be but there really doesn't have to be any sort of a link. You enjoy yourself now doing whatever you're doing following me around on this forum | |||
" Cut and pasting something twice lol, come on your better than that ,,,,,,,, or ,,,,, awkward Daily Mash Enjoy
Are you a little obsessed by me? You seem to be quite attached to me sweetie
Ok another thing to add to the list about yourself, is not very good at comebacks.
Must try harder come on imagine the socialist revolution relies solely on you, up your game
I don't have to try at all.
You also seem to be labouring under a misapprehension.
Not defending Trump's racist tweets does not make me either a socialist.
I could well be but there really doesn't have to be any sort of a link.
You enjoy yourself now doing whatever you're doing following me around on this forum "I just wonder why you avoid questions?? Shit that was another question sorry And of course your a socialist | |||
" Cut and pasting something twice lol, come on your better than that ,,,,,,,, or ,,,,, awkward Daily Mash Enjoy
Are you a little obsessed by me? You seem to be quite attached to me sweetie
Ok another thing to add to the list about yourself, is not very good at comebacks.
Must try harder come on imagine the socialist revolution relies solely on you, up your game
I don't have to try at all.
You also seem to be labouring under a misapprehension.
Not defending Trump's racist tweets does not make me either a socialist.
I could well be but there really doesn't have to be any sort of a link.
You enjoy yourself now doing whatever you're doing following me around on this forum
I just wonder why you avoid questions?? Shit that was another question sorry
And of course your a socialist "What are your opinions on unemployment figures, or are you really just stalking me? | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. " It’s not just London though is it? God forbid you should have a family member dying in Bristol when the climate change morons are out in force | |||
" Cut and pasting something twice lol, come on your better than that ,,,,,,,, or ,,,,, awkward Daily Mash Enjoy
Are you a little obsessed by me? You seem to be quite attached to me sweetie
Ok another thing to add to the list about yourself, is not very good at comebacks.
Must try harder come on imagine the socialist revolution relies solely on you, up your game
I don't have to try at all.
You also seem to be labouring under a misapprehension.
Not defending Trump's racist tweets does not make me either a socialist.
I could well be but there really doesn't have to be any sort of a link.
You enjoy yourself now doing whatever you're doing following me around on this forum
I just wonder why you avoid questions?? Shit that was another question sorry
And of course your a socialist
What are your opinions on unemployment figures, or are you really just stalking me? "That’s now 3 questions your avoiding come on dude your looking silly now. You think yourself as a bright forward thinking socialist surely a few simple questions isn’t so hard, it has been days now. What you so scared of ? Shit that’s a 4th question,,,, shucks | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. It’s not just London though is it? God forbid you should have a family member dying in Bristol when the climate change morons are out in force "It's not just climate change protestors though is it? Im sure half of them are professional protestors. Just popping home occasionally to sign on. | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. Maybe if they put as much effort into acheiving something in their career/ life they would get a sense of self worth and realise things aren't that bad.
Shitload of people on here could do with that too So much negativity "A great post. The voice of reality. | |||
"Been looking into this and actual estimates are running about 4 times the official figure. So how accurate are other official figures? " What type of adjustment is required for fraudulent claims.? This affects both the statistics and costs the country a lot of money. | |||
"Been looking into this and actual estimates are running about 4 times the official figure. So how accurate are other official figures? What type of adjustment is required for fraudulent claims.? This affects both the statistics and costs the country a lot of money. " according to the government's figures, overpayments due to fraud accounted for 1.2% of the overall social security budget last year. That's about £2.4B Sounds a lot, but tax fraud costs us much more - VAT fraud for the same year cost us £35B but doesn't seem to get nearly as much media attention. | |||
"Been looking into this and actual estimates are running about 4 times the official figure. So how accurate are other official figures? What type of adjustment is required for fraudulent claims.? This affects both the statistics and costs the country a lot of money. " 1.1% apparently for 2017 - 18 | |||
"Been looking into this and actual estimates are running about 4 times the official figure. So how accurate are other official figures? What type of adjustment is required for fraudulent claims.? This affects both the statistics and costs the country a lot of money. according to the government's figures, overpayments due to fraud accounted for 1.2% of the overall social security budget last year. That's about £2.4B Sounds a lot, but tax fraud costs us much more - VAT fraud for the same year cost us £35B but doesn't seem to get nearly as much media attention. " Thats due to vilification of the disadvantaged, disabled etc. Fits in with tory ideology. The big fraud is likely to be committed by tory doners, | |||
"Judging by the numbers of people who have enough time on their hands to go to London and protest about stuff, i wouldn't be surprised at all. Maybe if they put as much effort into acheiving something in their career/ life they would get a sense of self worth and realise things aren't that bad.
Shitload of people on here could do with that too So much negativity "Just because things aren't so bad for some, doesn't mean they aren't for many others. Some people give a shit about that and not just themselves, hence people with "not so bad" lives protesting, to try and make changes so more people's lives are better | |||
