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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Daniel Craig is Bond.
It appears he is called out of retirement and discovers the 007 code-name now belongs to a female agent.
Clever marketing move, if it gets people talking about the film (as the OP proves).
Still wondering where the politics are, though. |
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"Daniel Craig is Bond.
It appears he is called out of retirement and discovers the 007 code-name now belongs to a female agent.
Clever marketing move, if it gets people talking about the film (as the OP proves).
Still wondering where the politics are, though."
It is, indeed, a smart move; because it's all about the money.
You'll get more bums on seats by pandering to the PWB lovers, whilst still trying to please the more traditional Bond fans, than you will by the traditional route alone.
The real test will be at the box office. |
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"Jane bond has a nice ring to it."
Would be great to see a hot 007 lez off with some other fit bond girls instead of Roger Moore and his performing eyebrow  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Jane bond has a nice ring to it.
Would be great to see a hot 007 lez off with some other fit bond girls instead of Roger Moore and his performing eyebrow "
We can but dream.Lots of great possibilities . |
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over a year ago
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Not sure if a whole new makeover for the bond franchise would be a hit at the box office. Would we start to see things like....
Change the Aston for a fiat 500 convertible, martini shaken not stirred for a glass of prosecco and maybe replace the exploding omega watch for a lipstick that fills the room with poison gas. All that after winning £100 million at the gala bingo....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not sure if a whole new makeover for the bond franchise would be a hit at the box office. Would we start to see things like....
Change the Aston for a fiat 500 convertible, martini shaken not stirred for a glass of prosecco and maybe replace the exploding omega watch for a lipstick that fills the room with poison gas. All that after winning £100 million at the gala bingo.... "
Take my money already I'm sold.
Although the lipstick could become a little vibe for Jane and her love interest..
Hopefully the baddie is that massive blonde from GOT (Breann of Tarth) .She would make a good jaws type character. |
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"Not sure if a whole new makeover for the bond franchise would be a hit at the box office. Would we start to see things like....
Change the Aston for a fiat 500 convertible, martini shaken not stirred for a glass of prosecco and maybe replace the exploding omega watch for a lipstick that fills the room with poison gas. All that after winning £100 million at the gala bingo....
Take my money already I'm sold.
Although the lipstick could become a little vibe for Jane and her love interest..
Hopefully the baddie is that massive blonde from GOT (Breann of Tarth) .She would make a good jaws type character."
This is brilliant Bob. I hope Sam mendez is reading this. The new script practically writes itself!
The new song could be cindi lauper's girls just wanna have fun!
Opening scene could be a mad dash round asda carpark looking for the last parking space and trolley |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If im being honest this does have undertones of politics in it, gender equality and trying to move away from the mysoginistic bond of old.. but is that not why we still like Bond because he is not PC and is old fashioned. And yes i do know that 007 is a title so it could be anyone but please just make it elba, cillian murphy or tom hiddleston |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If im being honest this does have undertones of politics in it, gender equality and trying to move away from the mysoginistic bond of old.. but is that not why we still like Bond because he is not PC and is old fashioned. And yes i do know that 007 is a title so it could be anyone but please just make it elba, cillian murphy or tom hiddleston"
We've got a woman Dr who and some people were very unhappy about that and we had a black storm trooper in Star Wars and we had more disapproval from some.
So let's hope a black female bond doesn't get the loonies knickers all twisted..
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If im being honest this does have undertones of politics in it, gender equality and trying to move away from the mysoginistic bond of old.. but is that not why we still like Bond because he is not PC and is old fashioned. And yes i do know that 007 is a title so it could be anyone but please just make it elba, cillian murphy or tom hiddleston"
Do you think secret agents are male only?
Do you see women just as a bit of eye candy? |
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Person of colour...preferably from the lgbtq+wtf community. And the villan to be white, english, brexit supporter, trump supporter, global warming athiest, meat eater, non pc petrolhead and lady bottom slapper .....license to kill comfirmed |
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"Person of colour...preferably from the lgbtq+wtf community. And the villan to be white, english, brexit supporter, trump supporter, global warming athiest, meat eater, non pc petrolhead and lady bottom slapper .....license to kill comfirmed "
Take my money again!
I think you should write scripts for a living.
You have your finger on the pulse.Its in keeping with the zeitgeist !
Love it.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Person of colour...preferably from the lgbtq+wtf community. And the villan to be white, english, brexit supporter, trump supporter, global warming athiest, meat eater, non pc petrolhead and lady bottom slapper .....license to kill comfirmed
Take my money again!
I think you should write scripts for a living.
You have your finger on the pulse.Its in keeping with the zeitgeist !
Love it.."
i was going to audition for the part of villan myself.....but i aint fukkin' english!!
I've heard that once he's out of nick....tommy robinson is a shoe-in for the part |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Not at all, a film should offer escapism and not be taken so seriously so that it has to bow to social pressures. Abd the story has always been about James Bond , orphaned from his upperclass family in scotland, if you want a female secret agent by all means make a film about it just make it a run alongside the James Bond films |
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"Person of colour...preferably from the lgbtq+wtf community. And the villan to be white, english, brexit supporter, trump supporter, global warming athiest, meat eater, non pc petrolhead and lady bottom slapper .....license to kill comfirmed
Take my money again!
I think you should write scripts for a living.
You have your finger on the pulse.Its in keeping with the zeitgeist !
Love it..
i was going to audition for the part of villan myself.....but i aint fukkin' english!!
I've heard that once he's out of nick....tommy robinson is a shoe-in for the part "
Hopefully the acronym for the villains evil organisation is G.A.M.M.O.N .
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"Person of colour...preferably from the lgbtq+wtf community. And the villan to be white, english, brexit supporter, trump supporter, global warming athiest, meat eater, non pc petrolhead and lady bottom slapper .....license to kill comfirmed
Take my money again!
I think you should write scripts for a living.
You have your finger on the pulse.Its in keeping with the zeitgeist !
Love it..
i was going to audition for the part of villan myself.....but i aint fukkin' english!!
I've heard that once he's out of nick....tommy robinson is a shoe-in for the part
Hopefully the acronym for the villains evil
organisation is G.A.M.M.O.N .
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Green Activists Moaning More Over Nothing?
No way bob....that shit won't fly.
it should be called... Satanic Nonces Of the World Forging Local Agreements Keeping Everyone Scared....or S.N.O.W.F.L.A.K.E.S
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Person of colour...preferably from the lgbtq+wtf community. And the villan to be white, english, brexit supporter, trump supporter, global warming athiest, meat eater, non pc petrolhead and lady bottom slapper .....license to kill comfirmed
Take my money again!
I think you should write scripts for a living.
You have your finger on the pulse.Its in keeping with the zeitgeist !
Love it..
i was going to audition for the part of villan myself.....but i aint fukkin' english!!
I've heard that once he's out of nick....tommy robinson is a shoe-in for the part
Hopefully the acronym for the villains evil
organisation is G.A.M.M.O.N .
Green Activists Moaning More Over Nothing?
No way bob....that shit won't fly.
it should be called... Satanic Nonces Of the World Forging Local Agreements Keeping Everyone Scared....or S.N.O.W.F.L.A.K.E.S
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I am struggling to beat yours.I came up with a few but there shit...  |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Not at all, a film should offer escapism and not be taken so seriously so that it has to bow to social pressures. Abd the story has always been about James Bond , orphaned from his upperclass family in scotland, if you want a female secret agent by all means make a film about it just make it a run alongside the James Bond films "
The film is still about Bond. He is called out of retirement.
I am not sure I understand your objection to the involvement of women in a serious role. Did you object when a woman played the part of Bond's boss? |
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"Person of colour...preferably from the lgbtq+wtf community. And the villan to be white, english, brexit supporter, trump supporter, global warming athiest, meat eater, non pc petrolhead and lady bottom slapper .....license to kill comfirmed
Take my money again!
I think you should write scripts for a living.
You have your finger on the pulse.Its in keeping with the zeitgeist !
Love it..
i was going to audition for the part of villan myself.....but i aint fukkin' english!!
I've heard that once he's out of nick....tommy robinson is a shoe-in for the part "
stop being a cock u know hardly any of the bond villains are English lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Greedy Anal Middle-aged Male orange numpties.
Still not as good as yours Popper"
keep working at it bob. There's a BAFTA with your name on it
Bloody Agriculturalists Fuckingup The Atmosphere....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think they are just leading it down a dead end, if james bond is no longer 007 then where does it leave the installment after next, we have the story follow 007 or down the “not james bond” path with a Female lead or we follow james bonds character into a life of retirement which will result in having to do another reboot. When its james bonds character that is centre of the franchise |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"What are your thoughts? "
That's not the same as having a female "James Bond".
It works in itself. I assume 007 is just assigned to the next agent in line when the previous one retires.
I don't know what it does to the franchise though which is really based around James Bond.
As someone says, probably just primed for a reboot with a possible spin-off running in parallel? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"The real test is how it does at the box office.
Hopefully it won't be as disastrous as the first female Dr Who which appears to have failed on a string of poor plot lines."
I didn't hear that Dr Who was disasterous.
The writing team did change at the same time though, so I guess they went all or nothing. Possibly ended up with something |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What just a black woman, what no gay black woman or a disabled gay black woman, a gender neutral disabled gay black ze or is it za.
This is typical bigoted Hollywood |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I laughed hard at the right wing lemons getting their panties in a twist over a black actor being cast as the little mermaid "Ariel".
Can you get more pathetic than getting triggered over a Disney character...
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"I laughed hard at the right wing lemons getting their panties in a twist over a black actor being cast as the little mermaid "Ariel".
Can you get more pathetic than getting triggered over a Disney character...
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bob if iv learned anything on fab is that fuck all surprises anymore on here lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I laughed hard at the right wing lemons getting their panties in a twist over a black actor being cast as the little mermaid "Ariel".
Can you get more pathetic than getting triggered over a Disney character...
bob if iv learned anything on fab is that fuck all surprises anymore on here lol"
Yeah the worlds gone mad.. |
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Can you get more pathetic than getting triggered over a Disney character...
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...how about a fictional shape-shifting time traveller, who can become any alien life form, but could not, apparently, be a female human?  |
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"What just a black woman, what no gay black woman or a disabled gay black woman, a gender neutral disabled gay black ze or is it za.
This is typical bigoted Hollywoodpmsl "
Don't laugh they'll have you locked up for a mental illness for the good of the masses in a heartbeat.
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"Person of colour...preferably from the lgbtq+wtf community. And the villan to be white, english, brexit supporter, trump supporter, global warming athiest, meat eater, non pc petrolhead and lady bottom slapper .....license to kill comfirmed
Take my money again!
I think you should write scripts for a living.
You have your finger on the pulse.Its in keeping with the zeitgeist !
Love it..
i was going to audition for the part of villan myself.....but i aint fukkin' english!!
I've heard that once he's out of nick....tommy robinson is a shoe-in for the part
Hopefully the acronym for the villains evil organisation is G.A.M.M.O.N .
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Global
Antienvironmentalist
Male
Misogynist
OrgaNisation.
Singh me up. |
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Well it was 13 posts before fabswinger's resident male chauv found it. Sticking this in politics was pretty darn shameless I agree.
OO7? I'd have taken Elba, but who cares? I was always a roger more man (ooh er, and it was partly because I could never take it too seriously) but we can't go back to that. As long as the next lot of films don't turn out to be as badly written as the recent Dr Who's it could be a good thing. |
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Can you get more pathetic than getting triggered over a Disney character...
...how about a fictional shape-shifting time traveller, who can become any alien life form, but could not, apparently, be a female human? "
For sure, but if only they a had more women in the production - like one to head it. It was such geeky male's idea of a female Doctor, and the writing was so poor and (with a just a couple of topic-drafted exceptions from childrens tv) by the most fondent of men. And women scifi tv writers are actually out there. It just gave all the detractors something that showed them they were 'right'. Hopefully the new Bond will kill it from the get go. |
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"Do you think secret agents are male only?
Do you see women just as a bit of eye candy?"
In answer to your questions: No and no, but in the 007 franchise females are supporting rolls and part of that support is to be 'eye candy'. You may not approve of this but the franchise has had the same highly successful formula for over 50 years now, and you should remember the old adage 'if it aint broke dont fix it!'.
James Bond is 007, a male character devised by one Ian Fleming, therefore the part should be a male only roll. The 00 prefix to his number 7 denoted a 'licence to kill', again explained in many of the books. If the film makers want to cast a female in the lead that is fine she can have any number other than 006, 007 and 008 as they are accounted for. Its a matter of continuity and staying at least somewhat true to the original concept. Of course they could promote Bond and bring in a new top agent 009 and introduce a new female lead that way. But Jane Smith 009 or whatever name that would be given to the roll may not have the same box office appeal. I for 1 think that if this is true and the next 007 is a female that many (including me) will abandon the brand and franchise. |
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"Do you think secret agents are male only?
Do you see women just as a bit of eye candy?
In answer to your questions: No and no, but in the 007 franchise females are supporting rolls and part of that support is to be 'eye candy'. You may not approve of this but the franchise has had the same highly successful formula for over 50 years now, and you should remember the old adage 'if it aint broke dont fix it!'.
James Bond is 007, a male character devised by one Ian Fleming, therefore the part should be a male only roll. The 00 prefix to his number 7 denoted a 'licence to kill', again explained in many of the books. If the film makers want to cast a female in the lead that is fine she can have any number other than 006, 007 and 008 as they are accounted for. Its a matter of continuity and staying at least somewhat true to the original concept. Of course they could promote Bond and bring in a new top agent 009 and introduce a new female lead that way. But Jane Smith 009 or whatever name that would be given to the roll may not have the same box office appeal. I for 1 think that if this is true and the next 007 is a female that many (including me) will abandon the brand and franchise."
How many recent Bond's have been from Flemming's stories though? He didn't even like Connery in the role, as I remember. So who would you be 'abandoning', Flemming, the films, or your own idea of them?
Despite the zest Craig brought to the new Bonds, the franchise has actually been flagging at the box office a bit. For every supporter they lose they'll gain another if they get it right imo. |
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"James Bond isn’t a woman, so why on earth would he be played by a woman?"
James Bond isn't, they are signing him out. They are making the next 007 a woman.
Incidentally the argument that she should be a 006 or 008 doesn't make any sense. Because if the security services are going to have new people with the same code number at all (so not to get up to silly numbers like 0059), then the sex doesn't matter - it's just a new person in that role. |
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"James Bond isn’t a woman, so why on earth would he be played by a woman?
James Bond isn't, they are signing him out. They are making the next 007 a woman.
Incidentally the argument that she should be a 006 or 008 doesn't make any sense. Because if the security services are going to have new people with the same code number at all (so not to get up to silly numbers like 0059), then the sex doesn't matter - it's just a new person in that role."
OK, so the next “Bond” film won’t be about Bond. Or at least “007” will be a woman rather than a man?
Still seems a pretty pointless exercise that goes against the spirit of Fleming’s character as written. |
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"James Bond isn’t a woman, so why on earth would he be played by a woman?
James Bond isn't, they are signing him out. They are making the next 007 a woman.
Incidentally the argument that she should be a 006 or 008 doesn't make any sense. Because if the security services are going to have new people with the same code number at all (so not to get up to silly numbers like 0059), then the sex doesn't matter - it's just a new person in that role.
OK, so the next “Bond” film won’t be about Bond. Or at least “007” will be a woman rather than a man?
Still seems a pretty pointless exercise that goes against the spirit of Fleming’s character as written. "
When the last time they used a Flemming story though? And he didn't like Sean Connery if you remember. The IP includes the whole world - The 00's, Q, M, SPECTRE etc - I think it's a good idea. Craig and modern sheen gave it a lift, but it's been slowly flagging again since his first film. |
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"James Bond isn’t a woman, so why on earth would he be played by a woman?
James Bond isn't, they are signing him out. They are making the next 007 a woman.
Incidentally the argument that she should be a 006 or 008 doesn't make any sense. Because if the security services are going to have new people with the same code number at all (so not to get up to silly numbers like 0059), then the sex doesn't matter - it's just a new person in that role.
OK, so the next “Bond” film won’t be about Bond. Or at least “007” will be a woman rather than a man?
Still seems a pretty pointless exercise that goes against the spirit of Fleming’s character as written.
When the last time they used a Flemming story though? And he didn't like Sean Connery if you remember. The IP includes the whole world - The 00's, Q, M, SPECTRE etc - I think it's a good idea. Craig and modern sheen gave it a lift, but it's been slowly flagging again since his first film."
or simply do a new spy movie with a female as the lead there ya go sorted jobs a gudun lol |
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"James Bond isn’t a woman, so why on earth would he be played by a woman?
James Bond isn't, they are signing him out. They are making the next 007 a woman.
Incidentally the argument that she should be a 006 or 008 doesn't make any sense. Because if the security services are going to have new people with the same code number at all (so not to get up to silly numbers like 0059), then the sex doesn't matter - it's just a new person in that role.
OK, so the next “Bond” film won’t be about Bond. Or at least “007” will be a woman rather than a man?
Still seems a pretty pointless exercise that goes against the spirit of Fleming’s character as written.
When the last time they used a Flemming story though? And he didn't like Sean Connery if you remember. The IP includes the whole world - The 00's, Q, M, SPECTRE etc - I think it's a good idea. Craig and modern sheen gave it a lift, but it's been slowly flagging again since his first film. or simply do a new spy movie with a female as the lead there ya go sorted jobs a gudun lol"
Been done, but made less |
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"James Bond isn’t a woman, so why on earth would he be played by a woman?
James Bond is a fictional character. He could be played by a cat. "
Without getting too pedantic, James Bond, the fictional character, is a man. Who could be played by a cat, although it would be fair to say that a cat dressed up as a man wouldn’t be very convincing.  |
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"James Bond is not a fictional character but based on Fleming's experience as a spy!!! And think of the 2 Russian spies in Salisbury...they do exist..."
That’s like saying that Han Solo is not a fictional character because astronauts. |
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"Incidentally the argument that she should be a 006 or 008 doesn't make any sense. Because if the security services are going to have new people with the same code number at all (so not to get up to silly numbers like 0059), then the sex doesn't matter - it's just a new person in that role."
Clearly you have no idea how bureaucratic records work. The prefix 00 denotes a type of agent, 7 is the agent record (file) number. When 007 retires/dies the record/file is not destroyed and the number passed on to his successor. His successor gets the next available number and it could well be 0059.
Just to be clear my military number had 8 digits beginning 2449 to my knowledge there have never been 24 and a half million serving in land forces at the same time. In fact at the time I signed up I was the 244***** number to be issued since the modern number system was introduced. So there is precedent as well as logic refuting your postulation. |
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"Jeez
People are taking this way too seriously. "
No way man... This is a big deal.
I'm looking forward to the new movie franchises of Murder He Wrote and Mister Marple....  |
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By *agle004 OP Man
over a year ago
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"James Bond is not a fictional character but based on Fleming's experience as a spy!!! And think of the 2 Russian spies in Salisbury...they do exist...
That’s like saying that Han Solo is not a fictional character because astronauts. "
Fully understand your comparsion,however, the comparsion is not a true representation. If you are saying, spies are ficitional, please explain the role and activities of MI5? |
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"Jeez
People are taking this way too seriously.
No way man... This is a big deal.
I'm looking forward to the new movie franchises of Murder He Wrote and Mister Marple.... "
She's not going to be called Bond though is she. It's a 007 spy story. |
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"Incidentally the argument that she should be a 006 or 008 doesn't make any sense. Because if the security services are going to have new people with the same code number at all (so not to get up to silly numbers like 0059), then the sex doesn't matter - it's just a new person in that role.
Clearly you have no idea how bureaucratic records work. The prefix 00 denotes a type of agent, 7 is the agent record (file) number. When 007 retires/dies the record/file is not destroyed and the number passed on to his successor. His successor gets the next available number and it could well be 0059.
Just to be clear my military number had 8 digits beginning 2449 to my knowledge there have never been 24 and a half million serving in land forces at the same time. In fact at the time I signed up I was the 244***** number to be issued since the modern number system was introduced. So there is precedent as well as logic refuting your postulation. "
LMAO
I had in my mind it went up to 009 (the highest character I can remember form it) and after that they were always either retiring or falling foul of something.
But really - 007? OK, they the number goes much higher. But get a life, people. |
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