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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?"
There has always been two odd drivers of some tastes.
A fallacy that eating some parts of some animals makes men "more potent" and displaying your wealth by consuming rare things.
It was the same here. Think back to Victorian times in particular. Hunting is still a "thing" here.
China is actually finding itself where we were back with a new wealthy class finding ways to spend their money.
Dogs and snake blood are perhaps specifically Western qualms. As much as I don't like the idea it is not really any different to a sheep or black pudding is it?
Remember that these are parts of the world where much of the population has been historically impoverished so they didn't have the luxury of choosing their protein source. In some cases this then becomes "traditional" as unpleasant as that may seem to us.
Why the thread specifically? Did something prompt it? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"It's the world over m8 ...and we go on about a plastic straw or carrier bag"
This is what plastic straws and carrier bags eventually do, but hey, if it inconveniences you, who cares right?
https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/03/23/world/plastic-great-pacific-garbage-patch-intl/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F |
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By *omaMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
We find whaling unacceptable but forget Britain was once a major power in the whaling industry. . The British whaling Fleet was huge.
Ok times have changed, we now see the folly of hunting to near extinction.
Japan is modern enough to not need to whale, and should be ashamed. . . Norway? Are they still whaling? |
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Dogs and snake blood are perhaps specifically Western qualms. As much as I don't like the idea it is not really any different to a sheep or black pudding is it?
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Don't go talking sense when Clem is getting himself worked up about those 'orrible foreigners.
But yes. Humans treat animals terribly all over the world.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"It's the world over m8 ...and we go on about a plastic straw or carrier bag
This is what plastic straws and carrier bags eventually do, but hey, if it inconveniences you, who cares right?
https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/03/23/world/plastic-great-pacific-garbage-patch-intl/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F"
got to agree no need for straws at all and as someone who does a lot of sailing you see more dead turtles than you did years ago. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"We find whaling unacceptable but forget Britain was once a major power in the whaling industry. . The British whaling Fleet was huge.
Ok times have changed, we now see the folly of hunting to near extinction.
Japan is modern enough to not need to whale, and should be ashamed. . . Norway? Are they still whaling? "
Norway does still whale.
Unfortunately this is another case of blind "tradition".
Protecting an archaic "way of life" that has become redundant in the modern age. |
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"We find whaling unacceptable but forget Britain was once a major power in the whaling industry. . The British whaling Fleet was huge.
Ok times have changed, we now see the folly of hunting to near extinction.
Japan is modern enough to not need to whale, and should be ashamed. . . Norway? Are they still whaling?
Norway does still whale.
Unfortunately this is another case of blind "tradition".
Protecting an archaic "way of life" that has become redundant in the modern age."
Japan has just started again
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?"
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges? "
cant beat a few kidneys with a fry up. |
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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago
south west , continental |
Whaling is still an integral part of the indeginous tribes that still inhabit this earth. Lots of tribes the Alaskan Inupiat, the makah tribe of New Washington. Tribes of Greenland, the Chukotka of Russia, the Bequia of the Grenadines all still hunt whale as part of their traditions. The IWC recognise it as indigenous subsistence whaling.
It's their way of life, who are we to judge.
Commercial whaling that's a complete different story, I am pretty sure there are tight controls, seasons and numbers allowed to be landed. I'm dead against the shark fin trade, if you caught the shark why not eat the whole thing. Mindless, just chucking the creature back in the sea, finless, it dies.
The Inuits on Greenland catch seabirds and ferment them in the sown up skins of seals. Apparently its a delicacy!!
Anyone for whale ice cream, that's a delicacy too! Ask the Inupiat tribe for the recipe.
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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago
south west , continental |
"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges? cant beat a few kidneys with a fry up."
Those were the days, down the butchers big fat pork chop with the kidney intact!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges? "
Because eating the whole animal is not quite the same as cutting the fins from live sharks and then throwing the suffering animal back into the water to die slowly in agony 
And sharks do does not even taste of anything either  |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges?
Because eating the whole animal is not quite the same as cutting the fins from live sharks and then throwing the suffering animal back into the water to die slowly in agony
And sharks do does not even taste of anything either "
Yep pointless but no different to trawlers dumping tons of dead cod that they have caught but cant land them because they were in a zone where they can only catch other species.Well thought out that one our EU friends. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges?
Because eating the whole animal is not quite the same as cutting the fins from live sharks and then throwing the suffering animal back into the water to die slowly in agony
And sharks do does not even taste of anything either Yep pointless but no different to trawlers dumping tons of dead cod that they have caught but cant land them because they were in a zone where they can only catch other species.Well thought out that one our EU friends. "
Interesting. That regulation was changed in 2013 when it became apparent that there was a problem.
It has been phased in because industries complain about sudden changes.
The entire catch is landed and out of quota fish cannot be sold for human consumption and will go into the animal food chain.
Surely the actual problem are the trawling practises? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges?
Because eating the whole animal is not quite the same as cutting the fins from live sharks and then throwing the suffering animal back into the water to die slowly in agony
And sharks do does not even taste of anything either Yep pointless but no different to trawlers dumping tons of dead cod that they have caught but cant land them because they were in a zone where they can only catch other species.Well thought out that one our EU friends.
Interesting. That regulation was changed in 2013 when it became apparent that there was a problem.
It has been phased in because industries complain about sudden changes.
The entire catch is landed and out of quota fish cannot be sold for human consumption and will go into the animal food chain.
Surely the actual problem are the trawling practises?"
Funny that celebrity trawlermen which was on last night and filmed last year were dumping dead cod overboard on last nights program seems the skipper doesn't know the regulations then after 30 years in the job.Must be a crap skipper too if hes catching fish that hes not allowed to with the fish that he is.you would think he would know better after all this time.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges? cant beat a few kidneys with a fry up."
Liver and onions |
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"Whaling is still an integral part of the indeginous tribes that still inhabit this earth. Lots of tribes the Alaskan Inupiat, the makah tribe of New Washington. Tribes of Greenland, the Chukotka of Russia, the Bequia of the Grenadines all still hunt whale as part of their traditions. The IWC recognise it as indigenous subsistence whaling.
It's their way of life, who are we to judge.
Commercial whaling that's a complete different story, I am pretty sure there are tight controls, seasons and numbers allowed to be landed. I'm dead against the shark fin trade, if you caught the shark why not eat the whole thing. Mindless, just chucking the creature back in the sea, finless, it dies.
The Inuits on Greenland catch seabirds and ferment them in the sown up skins of seals. Apparently its a delicacy!!
Anyone for whale ice cream, that's a delicacy too! Ask the Inupiat tribe for the recipe.
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What about the Eskimos ? |
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By *omaMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Whaling is still an integral part of the indeginous tribes that still inhabit this earth. Lots of tribes the Alaskan Inupiat, the makah tribe of New Washington. Tribes of Greenland, the Chukotka of Russia, the Bequia of the Grenadines all still hunt whale as part of their traditions. The IWC recognise it as indigenous subsistence whaling.
It's their way of life, who are we to judge.
Commercial whaling that's a complete different story, I am pretty sure there are tight controls, seasons and numbers allowed to be landed. I'm dead against the shark fin trade, if you caught the shark why not eat the whole thing. Mindless, just chucking the creature back in the sea, finless, it dies.
The Inuits on Greenland catch seabirds and ferment them in the sown up skins of seals. Apparently its a delicacy!!
Anyone for whale ice cream, that's a delicacy too! Ask the Inupiat tribe for the recipe.
What about the Eskimos ?"
The Inuit is an Eskimo |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?"
Put enough ketchup on anything and it becomes edible. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?"
to be fair an indian could look at the way we do about Cows... and think exactly the same thing
i don't think we are in a place to be holding the moral high ground.... |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
How is any of that fucked up compared to eating bone marrow, offel and tounges?
Because eating the whole animal is not quite the same as cutting the fins from live sharks and then throwing the suffering animal back into the water to die slowly in agony
And sharks do does not even taste of anything either Yep pointless but no different to trawlers dumping tons of dead cod that they have caught but cant land them because they were in a zone where they can only catch other species.Well thought out that one our EU friends.
Interesting. That regulation was changed in 2013 when it became apparent that there was a problem.
It has been phased in because industries complain about sudden changes.
The entire catch is landed and out of quota fish cannot be sold for human consumption and will go into the animal food chain.
Surely the actual problem are the trawling practises?Funny that celebrity trawlermen which was on last night and filmed last year were dumping dead cod overboard on last nights program seems the skipper doesn't know the regulations then after 30 years in the job.Must be a crap skipper too if hes catching fish that hes not allowed to with the fish that he is.you would think he would know better after all this time. "
Perhaps he is.
You see no problem with trawling? |
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"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
to be fair an indian could look at the way we do about Cows... and think exactly the same thing
i don't think we are in a place to be holding the moral high ground...."
Why not visit the Yulin dog eating festival and compare and contrast the animal welfare practices between our treatment of a beef herd, and their treatment of dogs? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What a fucking racist beginning to a thread.
You've gone full Morrissey, why not just use his quote that the Chinese are a subspecies?
Writing off a whole continent for a few practices.
Surely it's not the eating of dogs that's the issue, but their treatment, particularly since pigs are incredibly intelligent but we happily slaughter millions of them.
Why not write off the whole of Europe too for their penchant for fois gras, surely just as cruel and unnecessary, or is it more that you want to demonise the foreign and looking for a reason to? I suspect so. |
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"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
to be fair an indian could look at the way we do about Cows... and think exactly the same thing
i don't think we are in a place to be holding the moral high ground....
Why not visit the Yulin dog eating festival and compare and contrast the animal welfare practices between our treatment of a beef herd, and their treatment of dogs? "
Reports seem to suggest it's a pretty nasty event. But many Chinese people are against that festival and have campaigned against it.
You realise its quite possible to be against things that happen without damning an entire continent of people?
And whilst we in theory have more 'humane' rules for slaughtering animals here, I think it's absolutely naive to believe a) those rules are always stuck to and b) that those rules alleviate all fear, stress, and suffering animals feel when being processed into our meals. |
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"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?
to be fair an indian could look at the way we do about Cows... and think exactly the same thing
i don't think we are in a place to be holding the moral high ground....
Why not visit the Yulin dog eating festival and compare and contrast the animal welfare practices between our treatment of a beef herd, and their treatment of dogs? "
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"Sharks fin, dogs, snake blood there's probably more. How can a continent's pallet and need for pretty things be so fucked up?"
That's beside their love for medicinal ivory and rhino horn to get their puny cocks hard, the worst thing is it dont even work . The only things that need ivory are Elephants ffs .
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Only eat what you've killed yourself. Sorted. "
If that was the case there would be a lot more vegetarians about because the majority of people would not be able to handle kill it cook it eat it!
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