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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Latest polling by Yougov shows Brexit is more popular than ever with 57% wanting an exit from the EU. 
In a blow to remainers and the People's vote campaign remain is now down on just 43%.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Should have known there was a thread.
1 in 10 leave voters see hard Brexit as the worse of all outcomes. Including staying in the eu.
Similar number of leavers see no deal doing serious damage to the economy.
The same number of leave voters think they will be worse off under no deal than those who think they'd be better off.
Id not want a people's vote if its no deal versus remain... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should have known there was a thread.
1 in 10 leave voters see hard Brexit as the worse of all outcomes. Including staying in the eu.
Similar number of leavers see no deal doing serious damage to the economy.
The same number of leave voters think they will be worse off under no deal than those who think they'd be better off.
Id not want a people's vote if its no deal versus remain... "
You would not want to see a people’s vote if it’s no deal vs remain? Or wouldn’t want to see a people’s vote at all?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If I were a leaver, I'd not want a people's vote on no deal versus remain. As there's a good chance remain would win.
The consensus is in the middle ground... At least 80‰ of people would have a deal of some nature as their first or second choice
Compared to 50% remain and just 39% of people would have no deal as their first or second choice.
Theres a hardcore and vocal set of supporters for no deal... But it feels like the middle ground would sway towards remaining than no deal if they were forced to choose... |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Latest polling by Yougov shows Brexit is more popular than ever with 57% wanting an exit from the EU.
In a blow to remainers and the People's vote campaign remain is now down on just 43%.
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The remoaners will be crying now poor things |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Latest polling by Yougov shows Brexit is more popular than ever with 57% wanting an exit from the EU.
In a blow to remainers and the People's vote campaign remain is now down on just 43%.
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Things can only get better . The voice of the silent majority will have to be honoured . |
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"Latest polling by Yougov shows Brexit is more popular than ever with 57% wanting an exit from the EU.
In a blow to remainers and the People's vote campaign remain is now down on just 43%.
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Why say it in words when you can say it in a song
https://youtu.be/pUdhaDCvPWY |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" The voice of the silent majority will have to be honoured . "
I fully agree, I really want our country to get the full point blank effects of a Boris Johnson no deal Brexit.
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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If Yougov have just come up with a poll showing 57% leave - 43% remain , I would imagine that Yougov will be taking a long hard look at the results their poll has produced . This is so far out of sync with polls produced over the last months it is almost unbelievable |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think these results would suprise many.
57% of people have a version of Brexit they'd prefer over staying in the eu.
(over half of which would prefer a type of Brexit that would previously have been called Brexit in name only, be this May's deal, or a deal that sees us remain in the sm and CU. But we're apparently calling that leaving today)
But not everyone can have their version of Brexit. So adding the brexit options up doesn't really give any insight.
And that's the rub. We have to get to a version. And the leave vote is split.
Almost half (46%) of people see a no deal Brexit as being the WORST option. Meaning it is v unlikely a no deal Brexit would win in any people's vote regardless of what the other option is. Its more unpopular than May's deal.
And 1 in 10 leave voters see it as being the worse deal. (in the interest of balance 2 in 10 remain voters don't see it as being the worse option, and 1 in 10 voters see remain as being the worse option!)
So anybody pushing through no deal is going to piss off almost half the voters. Possibly more as 15‰ see it as the second worse option.
50% of voters see remain as being the best option, or if they can't get their version of leave, the second best option. So that puts remain in a string position on most referendum papers... It would have to be good deal to prevent a remain win. And certainly not a no deal...
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Latest polling by Yougov shows Brexit is more popular than ever with 57% wanting an exit from the EU.
In a blow to remainers and the People's vote campaign remain is now down on just 43%.
The remoaners will be crying now poor things"
It’s all they ever do, incessant blubber. |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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I still say that the poll of 57-43 which is referred to is astonishing ,( it does not matter if you voted leave , remain , didn't vote , was not old enough to vote or you are from Peru ,or if you are crying about the poll or celebrating ) , the figures of 57 leave 43 remain are so different from previous polls over the past weeks / months that , I would expect Yougov to be holding an internal enquiry into who was asked to participate in the poll .. Was it a "loaded " question , or was it a remain or leave choice , or was it a series of qiestions which can be read various ways ,, ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I still say that the poll of 57-43 which is referred to is astonishing ,( it does not matter if you voted leave , remain , didn't vote , was not old enough to vote or you are from Peru ,or if you are crying about the poll or celebrating ) , the figures of 57 leave 43 remain are so different from previous polls over the past weeks / months that , I would expect Yougov to be holding an internal enquiry into who was asked to participate in the poll .. Was it a "loaded " question , or was it a remain or leave choice , or was it a series of qiestions which can be read various ways ,, ?"
It was a four way preferred option vote. Two of the options were for May's deal of a soft Brexit which included staying in the SM and CU. People who would have previously called this BINO and an affront to the will of the people are now calling it leave to get to 57.
Imo, given all this, the results feel consistent with others which tend to have more binary options. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude "
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?"
quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not. |
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not."
As opposed to not even having a shoe to put on... |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not."
A one size fits all attitude when we are not in the Euro, have opt outs on a huge number of clauses and get a rebate on our contribution?
Good analysis 
As for "positive attitude"...you don't plan a country's future hoping for the best with a "positive attitude".
Might means it might also be awful. The actual data suggests that is far more likely.
It "might" be fine though. Let's just give it a go eh?  |
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not.
A one size fits all attitude when we are not in the Euro, have opt outs on a huge number of clauses and get a rebate on our contribution?
Good analysis
As for "positive attitude"...you don't plan a country's future hoping for the best with a "positive attitude".
Might means it might also be awful. The actual data suggests that is far more likely.
It "might" be fine though. Let's just give it a go eh? "
Exactly...
stop fuckin moaning about it... knuckle down and get on with making it a success
Instead of moaning and whining focus on the opportunities...
This stupid pathetic attitude that we somehow "need" the EU to be a success really boils my blood, in the same way the thought of leaving the EU boils the blood of the remainers.
Difference is, leavers want to get on, want to find the opportunities, and make the country, in its own right a great success. That is within our capabilities if we work hard. Work hard for ourselves, not for 27 other countries. |
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not.
A one size fits all attitude when we are not in the Euro, have opt outs on a huge number of clauses and get a rebate on our contribution?
Good analysis
As for "positive attitude"...you don't plan a country's future hoping for the best with a "positive attitude".
Might means it might also be awful. The actual data suggests that is far more likely.
It "might" be fine though. Let's just give it a go eh?
Exactly...
stop fuckin moaning about it... knuckle down and get on with making it a success
Instead of moaning and whining focus on the opportunities...
This stupid pathetic attitude that we somehow "need" the EU to be a success really boils my blood, in the same way the thought of leaving the EU boils the blood of the remainers.
Difference is, leavers want to get on, want to find the opportunities, and make the country, in its own right a great success. That is within our capabilities if we work hard. Work hard for ourselves, not for 27 other countries."
That may be your opinion, however how many of those leavers who work in say the car industry and the associated work that brings going to get on when the factory is relocated into the EU..
Positivity is good but it has to be in conjunction with the practicalities of the effects the change will bring.. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not.
A one size fits all attitude when we are not in the Euro, have opt outs on a huge number of clauses and get a rebate on our contribution?
Good analysis
As for "positive attitude"...you don't plan a country's future hoping for the best with a "positive attitude".
Might means it might also be awful. The actual data suggests that is far more likely.
It "might" be fine though. Let's just give it a go eh?
Exactly...
stop fuckin moaning about it... knuckle down and get on with making it a success
Instead of moaning and whining focus on the opportunities...
This stupid pathetic attitude that we somehow "need" the EU to be a success really boils my blood, in the same way the thought of leaving the EU boils the blood of the remainers.
Difference is, leavers want to get on, want to find the opportunities, and make the country, in its own right a great success. That is within our capabilities if we work hard. Work hard for ourselves, not for 27 other countries."
Then you misunderstand and "taking back control" is all about ego and pride.
The EU is the most comprehensive free trade area on the planet and is between the world's richest nations.
Unlike other trade agreements, the economic size and strength of this group is then used to negotiate favourable terms with other large and small economies around the world.
In addition this same power is used to multiply our influence in international politics.
We can, and do, work hard now. We benefit far more from that hard work within the EU than we will outside.
We will lose years trying to negotiate a position with over 70 countries as well as the EU to get to where we are. However, as a smaller nation on it's own we are likely to obtain less favourable terms. Our international influence will also be diminished as we will be sat outside a wealthy power block with no ability to influence it.
You are demonstrating a spectacularly selfish attitude. Work hard for ourselves. If you want real success you work hard in a team because that multiplies your effort.
Life is not a zero sum game. |
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not.
A one size fits all attitude when we are not in the Euro, have opt outs on a huge number of clauses and get a rebate on our contribution?
Good analysis
As for "positive attitude"...you don't plan a country's future hoping for the best with a "positive attitude".
Might means it might also be awful. The actual data suggests that is far more likely.
It "might" be fine though. Let's just give it a go eh?
Exactly...
stop fuckin moaning about it... knuckle down and get on with making it a success
Instead of moaning and whining focus on the opportunities...
This stupid pathetic attitude that we somehow "need" the EU to be a success really boils my blood, in the same way the thought of leaving the EU boils the blood of the remainers.
Difference is, leavers want to get on, want to find the opportunities, and make the country, in its own right a great success. That is within our capabilities if we work hard. Work hard for ourselves, not for 27 other countries.
That may be your opinion, however how many of those leavers who work in say the car industry and the associated work that brings going to get on when the factory is relocated into the EU..
Positivity is good but it has to be in conjunction with the practicalities of the effects the change will bring.. "
Well its funny you mention the car industry, as its not just in he UK that plants are being closed and jobs lost... France, Germany, Spain... also being hit with a massive change in the industry.
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not.
A one size fits all attitude when we are not in the Euro, have opt outs on a huge number of clauses and get a rebate on our contribution?
Good analysis
As for "positive attitude"...you don't plan a country's future hoping for the best with a "positive attitude".
Might means it might also be awful. The actual data suggests that is far more likely.
It "might" be fine though. Let's just give it a go eh?
Exactly...
stop fuckin moaning about it... knuckle down and get on with making it a success
Instead of moaning and whining focus on the opportunities...
This stupid pathetic attitude that we somehow "need" the EU to be a success really boils my blood, in the same way the thought of leaving the EU boils the blood of the remainers.
Difference is, leavers want to get on, want to find the opportunities, and make the country, in its own right a great success. That is within our capabilities if we work hard. Work hard for ourselves, not for 27 other countries.
Then you misunderstand and "taking back control" is all about ego and pride.
The EU is the most comprehensive free trade area on the planet and is between the world's richest nations.
Unlike other trade agreements, the economic size and strength of this group is then used to negotiate favourable terms with other large and small economies around the world.
In addition this same power is used to multiply our influence in international politics.
We can, and do, work hard now. We benefit far more from that hard work within the EU than we will outside.
We will lose years trying to negotiate a position with over 70 countries as well as the EU to get to where we are. However, as a smaller nation on it's own we are likely to obtain less favourable terms. Our international influence will also be diminished as we will be sat outside a wealthy power block with no ability to influence it.
You are demonstrating a spectacularly selfish attitude. Work hard for ourselves. If you want real success you work hard in a team because that multiplies your effort.
Life is not a zero sum game."
I actually have not misunderstood, and please don't patronise me in the condescending manner which seems to flow off your keyboard so easily.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not.
A one size fits all attitude when we are not in the Euro, have opt outs on a huge number of clauses and get a rebate on our contribution?
Good analysis
As for "positive attitude"...you don't plan a country's future hoping for the best with a "positive attitude".
Might means it might also be awful. The actual data suggests that is far more likely.
It "might" be fine though. Let's just give it a go eh?
Exactly...
stop fuckin moaning about it... knuckle down and get on with making it a success
Instead of moaning and whining focus on the opportunities...
This stupid pathetic attitude that we somehow "need" the EU to be a success really boils my blood, in the same way the thought of leaving the EU boils the blood of the remainers.
Difference is, leavers want to get on, want to find the opportunities, and make the country, in its own right a great success. That is within our capabilities if we work hard. Work hard for ourselves, not for 27 other countries.
Then you misunderstand and "taking back control" is all about ego and pride.
The EU is the most comprehensive free trade area on the planet and is between the world's richest nations.
Unlike other trade agreements, the economic size and strength of this group is then used to negotiate favourable terms with other large and small economies around the world.
In addition this same power is used to multiply our influence in international politics.
We can, and do, work hard now. We benefit far more from that hard work within the EU than we will outside.
We will lose years trying to negotiate a position with over 70 countries as well as the EU to get to where we are. However, as a smaller nation on it's own we are likely to obtain less favourable terms. Our international influence will also be diminished as we will be sat outside a wealthy power block with no ability to influence it.
You are demonstrating a spectacularly selfish attitude. Work hard for ourselves. If you want real success you work hard in a team because that multiplies your effort.
Life is not a zero sum game.
I actually have not misunderstood, and please don't patronise me in the condescending manner which seems to flow off your keyboard so easily.
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You can choose to take it however you wish.
Is that what really upsets you? People patiently explaining things?
I have no intention of actively choosing to put our country in a crap situation so that we can spend years working hard to make up for what we've lost. If we ever do.
You could try to explain to me what you disagree with. Where the hard work will get us compared to where we are now.
The Brexit story has moved from glory and riches to blood, sweat, tears and survival.
I did't really want to get into the intricacies of "piss boiling". |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude
Why can't we do well in it... With a positive attitude?quiet simple because they use a one size fits all when it clearly does not.
A one size fits all attitude when we are not in the Euro, have opt outs on a huge number of clauses and get a rebate on our contribution?
Good analysis
As for "positive attitude"...you don't plan a country's future hoping for the best with a "positive attitude".
Might means it might also be awful. The actual data suggests that is far more likely.
It "might" be fine though. Let's just give it a go eh?
Exactly...
stop fuckin moaning about it... knuckle down and get on with making it a success
Instead of moaning and whining focus on the opportunities...
This stupid pathetic attitude that we somehow "need" the EU to be a success really boils my blood, in the same way the thought of leaving the EU boils the blood of the remainers.
Difference is, leavers want to get on, want to find the opportunities, and make the country, in its own right a great success. That is within our capabilities if we work hard. Work hard for ourselves, not for 27 other countries.
Then you misunderstand and "taking back control" is all about ego and pride.
The EU is the most comprehensive free trade area on the planet and is between the world's richest nations.
Unlike other trade agreements, the economic size and strength of this group is then used to negotiate favourable terms with other large and small economies around the world.
In addition this same power is used to multiply our influence in international politics.
We can, and do, work hard now. We benefit far more from that hard work within the EU than we will outside.
We will lose years trying to negotiate a position with over 70 countries as well as the EU to get to where we are. However, as a smaller nation on it's own we are likely to obtain less favourable terms. Our international influence will also be diminished as we will be sat outside a wealthy power block with no ability to influence it.
You are demonstrating a spectacularly selfish attitude. Work hard for ourselves. If you want real success you work hard in a team because that multiplies your effort.
Life is not a zero sum game.
I actually have not misunderstood, and please don't patronise me in the condescending manner which seems to flow off your keyboard so easily.
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I actually replied to your assertion that remainders had "stupid pathetic attitude that we somehow "need" the EU to be a success".
You have misunderstood.
We do not "need" it but it is far easier to be more successful and influential with it.
If you want to work harder for the same reward then we have a fundamentally different view of the world. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Difference is, leavers want to get on, want to find the opportunities, and make the country, in its own right a great success. That is within our capabilities if we work hard. Work hard for ourselves, not for 27 other countries."
I agree in some points that it will be good to find new opportunities but it's a case of how many steps backwards will it take before we the UK will get to step forward economically?
Every economic argument put forward regarding Brexit has so far either being counterd by far worse economic downfalls, being total lies or not adding up what so ever.
Anyway, hopefully we'll get the smarmy lying Boris as PM and he will give us all the hard Brexit the leavers voted for and this issue can play out in it's entirety and the issue can finally be laid to rest by all us remainers being proved so wrong.
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"Why stay in the eu ....is it because the eu is doing so great .....most are fucked and clinging on ...
Out is out ....we may do quite well ....with positive attitude "
We'll do very well within it, just because of the huge number of trade agreements that we benefit from, as part of the EU and can keep our positive attitude.
We should revoke Article 50 and then submit it, should we ever find substance that the UK would be better off outside of it - and if we had a government that could negotiate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Latest polling by Yougov shows Brexit is more popular than ever with 57% wanting an exit from the EU.
In a blow to remainers and the People's vote campaign remain is now down on just 43%.
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is this the same yougov that polled Labour to win the last general election?
or the one that polled remain to win the original referendum?
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"No doubt Merkel is quaking in her boots.....
She’s been shaking quite a lot recently
Quivering like a shitting dog more like. "
Centaur mate, that is vile even from someone as bile oozing as you are in your new guise.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It looks like Leo Varadkaris starting to panic now as well. His lack of co operation could mean 85000 job losses , economic growth crushed , and billions of Euros in extra borrowings.
Maybe attempting to punch above his weight is not such a clever policy.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No doubt Merkel is quaking in her boots.....
She’s been shaking quite a lot recently
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
You've actually become nastier."
This from a guy who posted a thread titled "Ban all Catholics". |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"No doubt Merkel is quaking in her boots.....
She’s been shaking quite a lot recently
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
You've actually become nastier.
This from a guy who posted a thread titled "Ban all Catholics". "
You should read a bit further into the thread.
Bless  |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Quivering like a shitting dog more like. "
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No doubt Merkel is quaking in her boots.....
She’s been shaking quite a lot recently
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
Centaur mate, that is vile even from someone as bile oozing as you are in your new guise.. "
I'm surprised you are actually suprised....
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By (user no longer on site)
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Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
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I think you will find that the poster made his comment in jest . It was not meant to be taken seriously or analysed in detail . I would have thought that any rational person would be aware of that . |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
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Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
I think you will find that the poster made his comment in jest . It was not meant to be taken seriously or analysed in detail . I would have thought that any rational person would be aware of that . "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
I think you will find that the poster made his comment in jest . It was not meant to be taken seriously or analysed in detail . I would have thought that any rational person would be aware of that .
You found that funny Pat?"
No mention was made as to whether the comment was meant to be funny. It was simply stated that the post was not meant to be taken seriously. |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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"I still say that the poll of 57-43 which is referred to is astonishing ,( it does not matter if you voted leave , remain , didn't vote , was not old enough to vote or you are from Peru ,or if you are crying about the poll or celebrating ) , the figures of 57 leave 43 remain are so different from previous polls over the past weeks / months that , I would expect Yougov to be holding an internal enquiry into who was asked to participate in the poll .. Was it a "loaded " question , or was it a remain or leave choice , or was it a series of qiestions which can be read various ways ,, ?
It was a four way preferred option vote. Two of the options were for May's deal of a soft Brexit which included staying in the SM and CU. People who would have previously called this BINO and an affront to the will of the people are now calling it leave to get to 57.
Imo, given all this, the results feel consistent with others which tend to have more binary options. "
. Thanks for the explanation of the poll , I was under the impression that the op was referring to a poll which was showing an remain/ leave vote with leave winning 57-43 |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
I think you will find that the poster made his comment in jest . It was not meant to be taken seriously or analysed in detail . I would have thought that any rational person would be aware of that .
You found that funny Pat? No mention was made as to whether the comment was meant to be funny. It was simply stated that the post was not meant to be taken seriously. "
So it was a malicious "joke"?
Would you say that describing someone as "Quivering like a shitting dog more like." was above or unpleasant thing to say? |
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"I still say that the poll of 57-43 which is referred to is astonishing ,( it does not matter if you voted leave , remain , didn't vote , was not old enough to vote or you are from Peru ,or if you are crying about the poll or celebrating ) , the figures of 57 leave 43 remain are so different from previous polls over the past weeks / months that , I would expect Yougov to be holding an internal enquiry into who was asked to participate in the poll .. Was it a "loaded " question , or was it a remain or leave choice , or was it a series of qiestions which can be read various ways ,, ?
It was a four way preferred option vote. Two of the options were for May's deal of a soft Brexit which included staying in the SM and CU. People who would have previously called this BINO and an affront to the will of the people are now calling it leave to get to 57.
Imo, given all this, the results feel consistent with others which tend to have more binary options. . Thanks for the explanation of the poll , I was under the impression that the op was referring to a poll which was showing an remain/ leave vote with leave winning 57-43"
It pays to go digging.
The standard routine is someone posts a poll with one spin. If you look at the detail there's a different story. OP no longer enagages. Someone will point out pollsters can't predict anything. Often a leaver. Even tho original poll was posted by a leaver as evidence of public mood. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No doubt Merkel is quaking in her boots.....
She’s been shaking quite a lot recently
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
You've actually become nastier.
This from a guy who posted a thread titled "Ban all Catholics".
You should read a bit further into the thread.
Bless "
Ah, so your thread was a 'joke'?
Did you think it was funny? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
I think you will find that the poster made his comment in jest . It was not meant to be taken seriously or analysed in detail . I would have thought that any rational person would be aware of that . "
We're not dealing with rational people here though, these people are remoaners, who appear to be suffering from a combination of Brexit anxiety disorder and Trump derangement syndrome!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
I think you will find that the poster made his comment in jest . It was not meant to be taken seriously or analysed in detail . I would have thought that any rational person would be aware of that .
You found that funny Pat? No mention was made as to whether the comment was meant to be funny. It was simply stated that the post was not meant to be taken seriously.
So it was a malicious "joke"?
Would you say that describing someone as "Quivering like a shitting dog more like." was above or unpleasant thing to say?"
Different people seem to find humour in all kinds of different things these days. Take Jo Brand for example (who describes herself as a liberal lefty), seems to think its funny to joke about throwing acid over certain politicians.
Maybe a few liberal lefty's found it funny, but must admit i fail to see the funny side of that.
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"No doubt Merkel is quaking in her boots.....
She’s been shaking quite a lot recently
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
You've actually become nastier.
This from a guy who posted a thread titled "Ban all Catholics".
You should read a bit further into the thread.
Bless "
Yes people should because it doesn't seem to go down too well with most people, a thread that clearly set out to deliberately offend using racist and bigoted comments under the guise of some kind of experiment!  |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
I think you will find that the poster made his comment in jest . It was not meant to be taken seriously or analysed in detail . I would have thought that any rational person would be aware of that .
You found that funny Pat? No mention was made as to whether the comment was meant to be funny. It was simply stated that the post was not meant to be taken seriously.
So it was a malicious "joke"?
Would you say that describing someone as "Quivering like a shitting dog more like." was above or unpleasant thing to say?
Different people seem to find humour in all kinds of different things these days. Take Jo Brand for example (who describes herself as a liberal lefty), seems to think its funny to joke about throwing acid over certain politicians.
Maybe a few liberal lefty's found it funny, but must admit i fail to see the funny side of that.
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No, Jo Brand was not funny in that instance. She was nasty.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"No doubt Merkel is quaking in her boots.....
She’s been shaking quite a lot recently
Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
You've actually become nastier.
This from a guy who posted a thread titled "Ban all Catholics".
You should read a bit further into the thread.
Bless
Ah, so your thread was a 'joke'?
Did you think it was funny? "
My thread was not a joke. It wasn't funny. It was serious.
It very clearly indicated the hypocrisy and prejudice when comparing identical acts by different groups of people.
What point did your "joke" make. What was funny about it? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
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Quivering like a shitting dog more like.
I asked the internet what someone devoid of empathy is called.
I found the answer.
"A narcissist. They are born, not made. Unlike sociopaths and psychopaths, they cannot be treated and they never get better. The DSM is considering removing it as a condition, and many counseling/psychiatric centers and practitioners now refuse to treat anyone with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) as their primary diagnosis since whoever treats them or must interact with them in any meaningful way must receive treatment also.
"It's the one and only condition where the victims of a person with this disorder get treatment, not the person with the disorder.
"They are not human, not human in any sense of the word as we understand it to be. Zero empathy. Human collectors. Go through the motions of life, copying normal behaviors. Zero self awareness. That's one feature that differentiates them from psycho- and sociopaths. The latter are self aware."
You have my deepest sympathy.
I think you will find that the poster made his comment in jest . It was not meant to be taken seriously or analysed in detail . I would have thought that any rational person would be aware of that . "
Jest or not, mocking an individual for whom there appears to be genuine health concern is indicative of an individual lacking of empathy.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"What concerns me is that if she does have some serious health problem then why has she not declared it... it’s not like she’s important or runs a country?
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It may still be under investigation.
Medical science is imprecise. You know that.
A physical infirmity also does not imply a mental one.
Parkinson's doesn't make you stupid.
I'm sure we will find out in due course. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Latest polling by Yougov shows Brexit is more popular than ever with 57% wanting an exit from the EU.
In a blow to remainers and the People's vote campaign remain is now down on just 43%.
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Realised that I didn't reply directly.
I do try to.
So what? Polling is meaningless, right?
It is out of synch with everything else recently.
Can't be bothered to dig into it this time because the one's you quote always seem to leave out key, contradictory information that was left out.
You have even said that you "choose to ignore them" in the past |
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"What concerns me is that if she does have some serious health problem then why has she not declared it... it’s not like she’s important or runs a country?
It may still be under investigation.
Medical science is imprecise. You know that.
A physical infirmity also does not imply a mental one.
Parkinson's doesn't make you stupid.
I'm sure we will find out in due course."
Upshot is then I t’s ok to have a jest about her shaking as according to her “nothing in particular to report".
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"What concerns me is that if she does have some serious health problem then why has she not declared it... it’s not like she’s important or runs a country?
It may still be under investigation.
Medical science is imprecise. You know that.
A physical infirmity also does not imply a mental one.
Parkinson's doesn't make you stupid.
I'm sure we will find out in due course.
Upshot is then I t’s ok to have a jest about her shaking as according to her “nothing in particular to report".
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I don't think that is the upshot. That's a heroic leap.
If "Quivering like a shitting dog more like." is actually funny rather then just nasty then our definitions of humour are different. |
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"What concerns me is that if she does have some serious health problem then why has she not declared it... it’s not like she’s important or runs a country?
It may still be under investigation.
Medical science is imprecise. You know that.
A physical infirmity also does not imply a mental one.
Parkinson's doesn't make you stupid.
I'm sure we will find out in due course.
Upshot is then I t’s ok to have a jest about her shaking as according to her “nothing in particular to report".
I don't think that is the upshot. That's a heroic leap.
If "Quivering like a shitting dog more like." is actually funny rather then just nasty then our definitions of humour are different."
No different to saying “she’s been shaking quite a lot recently”
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"Latest polling by Yougov shows Brexit is more popular than ever with 57% wanting an exit from the EU.
In a blow to remainers and the People's vote campaign remain is now down on just 43%.
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Excellent. Here's an idea, let's have a proper vote and you can get a resounding mandate backing this up, people can accept it whether they agree or not, we can unify the country and all go about our day. Oh wait, you're too much of a p*ssy. |
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