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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
Yeah but thats not unusual for your posts.  |
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
im all for banning the Catholic Church all religions for that matter but well done for going overboard tho it’s not like you lol |
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
There were estimated to be 158million catholics in Africa in 2009, I suspect some of them may be black!
Talking out your backside as usual!Lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
Nah, ban the lot of them. |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
I'm all for shutting down all religions but to say that only leftists would support the Catholic church hows me your intelligence level, if you knew anything you would know that the church is a right wing conservative organisation.?????? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A Really good you tube video to view is entitled "Is the catholic church a force for good? "...It has Stephen Fry on one side of the debate and Ann Widdecombe on the side of the church....He mops the floor with her and the church. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
During holy communion they eat the body of Christ and drink his blood.
That's cannibalism. It's evil.
Why wouldn't we ban that sort of behaviour? Even if they claim to be just "pretending". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"During holy communion they eat the body of Christ and drink his blood.
That's cannibalism. It's evil.
Why wouldn't we ban that sort of behaviour? Even if they claim to be just "pretending"."
it's a satanic ritual....how crazy that an entire church built on anti satanism has at it's core a satanic ritual?! It's almost as if someone was pissing about with the minds of the sheep. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
Think youl find theres lots of organizations found to have links to child abuse the church of england the royal family but you just highlight the catholics just shows your nothing more than a bigot |
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"During holy communion they eat the body of Christ and drink his blood.
That's cannibalism. It's evil.
Why wouldn't we ban that sort of behaviour? Even if they claim to be just "pretending"."
They are not pretending. To take communion you are supposed to believe in transubstantiation, not pretend its the body of Christ. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Impressive how many people have managed to miss the fairly obvious point of this thread."
It is a lame attempt to deflect criticism of Asian grooming gangs on another thread.
But using his logic then we should also ban Islam, swings and roundabouts and all. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
ban all groups that belive an invisable being lives in the sky judging us.the planet got by without christianity islam judism and all the other made up storys for thousands of years before they came along.anyone else notice that most of the big dates for these organised religions coinside with pagan _estivals.just a load of made up nonsence to control the uneducated masses a cpl thousand years ago.just amazes me that peeps buy into it in this day and age.and as for the grooming gangs i couldnt care less what coulour they are or what god they might follow
you cant cure them from being a nonce so put them down like a dog that attacks a child |
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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago
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"Impressive how many people have managed to miss the fairly obvious point of this thread."
If the op had stuck to the “obvious point” and not gone on about yellow crosses and included all followers he might have gotten more agreement with his thread.
But the way he chose to write it makes him look like an attention seeker who just wants to be controversial for the sake of it. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Impressive how many people have managed to miss the fairly obvious point of this thread.
If the op had stuck to the “obvious point” and not gone on about yellow crosses and included all followers he might have gotten more agreement with his thread.
But the way he chose to write it makes him look like an attention seeker who just wants to be controversial for the sake of it."
I think you will find he was being ironic. |
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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago
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"Impressive how many people have managed to miss the fairly obvious point of this thread.
If the op had stuck to the “obvious point” and not gone on about yellow crosses and included all followers he might have gotten more agreement with his thread.
But the way he chose to write it makes him look like an attention seeker who just wants to be controversial for the sake of it.I think you will find he was being ironic."
No he was just showboating |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Free hugs from bob ..and I'll even give you a tip to untwist your panties.
Have a brew .Sit in the garden and breath it all in.. "
sounds like sound advice think i might do that too with a beer though play nice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone who believes a wafer and some wine turn into flesh and blood in your mouth should be sectioned imo. "
Not believer clem.Me too.I see religious schools as ,religious apartheid for children.Ban the lot of them. |
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"Anyone who believes a wafer and some wine turn into flesh and blood in your mouth should be sectioned imo.
Not believer clem.Me too.I see religious schools as ,religious apartheid for children.Ban the lot of them."
Absolutely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Free hugs from bob ..and I'll even give you a tip to untwist your panties.
Have a brew .Sit in the garden and breath it all in.. sounds like sound advice think i might do that too with a beer though play nice."
Enjoy.. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
So is the general consensus here that because a relatively tiny group of men from a specific ethnic and religious group commit a disgusting crime we shouldn't blame everybody with the same background for their acts?
Are we saying that even though some people chose to make excuses for their behaviour and cover it up we should treat those not involved as normal, descent people?
Are we saying that random bits of information about the religion are completely irrelevant to the situation?
That would be quite an interesting conclusion to draw.
Why is Islam not treated in the same way?
Why aren't the paedophile rings in the north of England thought of in similar terms?
The acts of individuals and small groups of individuals do not reflect those of their wider community any more than those of other criminals.
In my experience, if you try and be consistent the world looks very different. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
Of course this thread was extreme and intended to get attention.
I don't believe any of it. It was not irony, it was hyperbole. I was deliberately provoking a reaction to draw attention to the double standards being displayed so vividly in the parallel threads on Asian grooming gangs.
Views that are so extreme that the latest one appears to have been taken down.
In fact this is the only time that someone has felt the need to send me a personally abusive message.
Us and them causes pretty much all of our problems.
In my experience most people are nice and we have more in common than divides us.
Life is not a zero sum game.
All "leftie", ""snowflake" nonsense apparently.
Better that than scowling at the world. |
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"Anyone who believes a wafer and some wine turn into flesh and blood in your mouth should be sectioned imo.
Not believer clem.Me too.I see religious schools as ,religious apartheid for children.Ban the lot of them.
Absolutely. "
For some people faith is an important part of their lives.
If there is no faith in their religion, what else in life is there to have faith in?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone who believes a wafer and some wine turn into flesh and blood in your mouth should be sectioned imo.
Not believer clem.Me too.I see religious schools as ,religious apartheid for children.Ban the lot of them.
Absolutely.
For some people faith is an important part of their lives.
If there is no faith in their religion, what else in life is there to have faith in?
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You could always join the cult of brexit you need faith to believe that's going to be a success. |
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
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For some people faith is an important part of their lives.
If there is no faith in their religion, what else in life is there to have faith in?
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I suppose it depends on how you define faith.
Religious people often use a shifting definition of the term, equivocating their religious faith (i.e beleif without evidence) to the "faith" we have in positions which we justify by evidence and experience like our "faith" in modern medicine, or the reliability of the scientific method for example.
The kind of faith that the religious use can be used to justify any position or claim whatsoever - even ones which are mutually exclusive or contradictory.
Therefore faith is not a useful or reliable method for determining truth.
If you actually care about what is true, rasther than say, just what makes you feel good, then faith can never be important to you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The 2nd fastest growing religion in britain.
It's a long way behind the cult of climate change .Get over it!
We greens win you lose.. "
I was gonna say veganism but now you mention it Bob.... Yeah! Global warming climate change really is a fast growing religion. Full of proficies of doom, drought, floods, terrible storms, rising seas, death, destruction and hellfire brimstone.
Holy smoke Bob.... You're on to something there 
A vote for green is a vote for God herself! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The 2nd fastest growing religion in britain.
It's a long way behind the cult of climate change .Get over it!
We greens win you lose..
I was gonna say veganism but now you mention it Bob.... Yeah! Global warming climate change really is a fast growing religion. Full of proficies of doom, drought, floods, terrible storms, rising seas, death, destruction and hellfire brimstone.
Holy smoke Bob.... You're on to something there
A vote for green is a vote for God herself! "
It's a vote for your mother the giver of life. We all suckle at the titty of Gaia and it's to her you shall return . |
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"Anyone who believes a wafer and some wine turn into flesh and blood in your mouth should be sectioned imo.
Not believer clem.Me too.I see religious schools as ,religious apartheid for children.Ban the lot of them.
Absolutely.
For some people faith is an important part of their lives.
If there is no faith in their religion, what else in life is there to have faith in?
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Why do you feel you need to have faith in aomething? Why can't you get your head around the fact that you're an animal? You're born, you breed, you die. Try not to throw a gay from a roof top while you're doing that. Simple. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anyone who believes a wafer and some wine turn into flesh and blood in your mouth should be sectioned imo.
Not believer clem.Me too.I see religious schools as ,religious apartheid for children.Ban the lot of them.
Absolutely.
For some people faith is an important part of their lives.
If there is no faith in their religion, what else in life is there to have faith in?
Why do you feel you need to have faith in aomething? Why can't you get your head around the fact that you're an animal? You're born, you breed, you die. Try not to throw a gay from a roof top while you're doing that. Simple. "
Spoil sport  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The 2nd fastest growing religion in britain.
It's a long way behind the cult of climate change .Get over it!
We greens win you lose..
I was gonna say veganism but now you mention it Bob.... Yeah! Global warming climate change really is a fast growing religion.
Full of proficies of doom, drought, floods, terrible storms, rising seas, death, destruction and hellfire brimstone.
Holy smoke Bob.... You're on to something there
A vote for green is a vote for God herself!
It's a vote for your mother the
giver of life. We all suckle at the titty of Gaia and it's to her you shall return . "
Bloody hippies hope you had a pleasant solstice this weekend Bob. Don't make the sun god angry Bob. He is the one to end all life as we know it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The 2nd fastest growing religion in britain.
It's a long way behind the cult of climate change .Get over it!
We greens win you lose..
I was gonna say veganism but now you mention it Bob.... Yeah! Global warming climate change really is a fast growing religion.
Full of proficies of doom, drought, floods, terrible storms, rising seas, death, destruction and hellfire brimstone.
Holy smoke Bob.... You're on to something there
A vote for green is a vote for God herself!
It's a vote for your mother the
giver of life. We all suckle at the titty of Gaia and it's to her you shall return .
Bloody hippies hope you had a pleasant solstice this weekend Bob. Don't make the sun god angry Bob. He is the one to end all life as we know it! "
Having a lovely chilled solstice thanks and coincidentally the sun has just entered a chilled period .A "solar minimum "as the guys with telescopes say.Not much activity on the surface ,much like myself today.
This will be interesting because some say the climate change stuff is all about solar activity.More data points on the graph during a solar minimum and the age of climate change means more evidence one way or another.
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
So just a couple of people able to condemn Catholic paedophile priests.
Nobody able to acknowledge that "Muslim" paedophiles or "Catholic" paedophiles or any other species are completely unrepresentative of their ethnic or religious group and are just messed up.
Well done you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So just a couple of people able to condemn Catholic paedophile priests.
Nobody able to acknowledge that "Muslim" paedophiles or "Catholic" paedophiles or any other species are completely unrepresentative of their ethnic or religious group and are just messed up.
Well done you."
I would say it was 'a given' that everyone on here thinks that kiddie fiddling is disgusting and deplorable and should be punished to the full extent of the law  |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
The BBC, Westminster Politiicians, football clubs and the entertainment industry have shielded child abusers for just as long.
Should we also ban music, television, politics and sport???
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"So just a couple of people able to condemn Catholic paedophile priests.
Nobody able to acknowledge that "Muslim" paedophiles or "Catholic" paedophiles or any other species are completely unrepresentative of their ethnic or religious group and are just messed up.
Well done you.
I would say it was 'a given' that everyone on here thinks that kiddie fiddling is disgusting and deplorable and should be punished to the full extent of the law "
That wasn't the point being made at all.
The point is that it is independent of ethnicity or religion. The point is that their behaviour is not representative of their ethnicity or religion.
This post and many others condemn Muslims but not Catholics or and other group for the same acts and tries to draw a conclusion that this is due to their ethnicity or race, not that they are deviant criminals on their own terms. |
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"So just a couple of people able to condemn Catholic paedophile priests.
Nobody able to acknowledge that "Muslim" paedophiles or "Catholic" paedophiles or any other species are completely unrepresentative of their ethnic or religious group and are just messed up.
Well done you."
Unfortunately both religions where their community seems to allow it to happen. Everyone knows a dodgy uncle, but nobody's prepared to tell the police. |
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"So just a couple of people able to condemn Catholic paedophile priests.
Nobody able to acknowledge that "Muslim" paedophiles or "Catholic" paedophiles or any other species are completely unrepresentative of their ethnic or religious group and are just messed up.
Well done you.
I would say it was 'a given' that everyone on here thinks that kiddie fiddling is disgusting and deplorable and should be punished to the full extent of the law
That wasn't the point being made at all.
The point is that it is independent of ethnicity or religion. The point is that their behaviour is not representative of
their ethnicity or religion.
This post and many others condemn Muslims but not Catholics or and other group for the same acts and tries to draw a conclusion that this is due to their ethnicity or race, not that they are deviant criminals on their own terms.
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Right so condemn them just cos dey is caflicks and cos da other ones is moozlums or summink?
Like I said.... Condemnation is a given by all on here. Peedos are peedos no matter which invisible sky fairy they choose to follow. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"So just a couple of people able to condemn Catholic paedophile priests.
Nobody able to acknowledge that "Muslim" paedophiles or "Catholic" paedophiles or any other species are completely unrepresentative of their ethnic or religious group and are just messed up.
Well done you.
I would say it was 'a given' that everyone on here thinks that kiddie fiddling is disgusting and deplorable and should be punished to the full extent of the law
That wasn't the point being made at all.
The point is that it is independent of ethnicity or religion. The point is that their behaviour is not representative of
their ethnicity or religion.
This post and many others condemn Muslims but not Catholics or and other group for the same acts and tries to draw a conclusion that this is due to their ethnicity or race, not that they are deviant criminals on their own terms.
Right so condemn them just cos dey is caflicks and cos da other ones is moozlums or summink?
Like I said.... Condemnation is a given by all on here. Peedos are peedos no matter which invisible sky fairy they choose to follow. "
No. The opposite.
Abusers from any background are abusers.
However, many people continue to claim that those from an Asian or Muslim background are some how more of a problem and "worse" than others. They seem to claim that they are somehow representative of their wider ethnic or religious group but, for instance, Catholic ones are not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Maybe you're obsessed with race and/or religion. I dare say that everyone here is of the mind that a nonce is a nonce no matter what colour they are. You want people to single out a particular race or colour group and give 'em hell for being child abusers? |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Maybe you're obsessed with race and/or religion. I dare say that everyone here is of the mind that a nonce is a nonce no matter what colour they are. You want people to single out a particular race or colour group and give 'em hell for being child abusers? "
Are you reading?
I am saying the OPPOSITE. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational
structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify
them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
Read that again and tell me you aren't singling out a particular race and or religion.... Even your title says as much. |
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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
Your a cock
..I'm a catholic and have never hurts child in anyway...fuck off to whatever hole your crawled out of ya fud |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As Donald trump said once we need a total ban on Catholics until we find out what the hell is going on.
Or was it Muslims.Same,same but different as my Thai friends say.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As Donald trump said once we need a total ban on Catholics until we find out what the hell is going on.
Or was it Muslims.Same,same but different as my Thai friends say.
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Your ladyboy friends said that?!
Bob you mustn't hang out in clubs like that with racists... Fuk sake man |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As Donald trump said once we need a total ban on Catholics until we find out what the hell is going on.
Or was it Muslims.Same,same but different as my Thai friends say.
Your ladyboy friends said that?!
Bob you mustn't hang out in clubs like that with racists... Fuk sake man "
They are very convincing.Although the hands are the give away.I thought in here all sexual tastes are catered for .Like you and your taste for gimp suits...
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"As Donald trump said once we need a total ban on Catholics until we find out what the hell is going on.
Or was it Muslims.Same,same but different as my Thai friends say.
Your ladyboy friends said that?!
Bob you mustn't hang out in clubs
like that with racists... Fuk sake man
They are very convincing.Although the hands are the give away.I
thought in here all sexual tastes are catered for .Like you and your taste for gimp suits...
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C/W snooker ball attachment bob
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So just a couple of people able to condemn Catholic paedophile priests.
Nobody able to acknowledge that "Muslim" paedophiles or "Catholic" paedophiles or any other species are completely unrepresentative of their ethnic or religious group and are just messed up.
Well done you.
I would say it was 'a given' that everyone on here thinks that kiddie fiddling is disgusting and deplorable and should be punished to the full extent of the law
That wasn't the point being made at all.
The point is that it is independent of ethnicity or religion. The point is that their behaviour is not representative of
their ethnicity or religion.
This post and many others condemn Muslims but not Catholics or and other group for the same acts and tries to draw a conclusion that this is due to their ethnicity or race, not that they are deviant criminals on their own terms.
Right so condemn them just cos dey is caflicks and cos da other ones is moozlums or summink?
Like I said.... Condemnation is a given by all on here. Peedos are peedos no matter which invisible sky fairy they choose to follow.
No. The opposite.
Abusers from any background are abusers.
However, many people continue to claim that those from an Asian or Muslim background are some how more of a problem and "worse" than others. They seem to claim that they are somehow representative of their wider ethnic or religious group but, for instance, Catholic ones are not."
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I haven't seen Muslims from the Islamic church/faith who've been arrested for this and indeed the opposite is true from the Catholic side, it was only Catholics from inside the church organisation itself.
I have seen several members from inside the Islamic church who've been arrested for terrorism though so there hardly all saints .
Also there choice of victims is opposite one is predominantly young boys the other young girls so there's a cultural and religious dynamic going on for sure.
Of course way back in the 70s there was comedians giving the Catholic church hell for the long known by society cover up for church employees,I mean it was widely parodied that you shouldn't leave your young son alone to long with the church vicar and the best way to out this actively is from the inside. |
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It seems that a lot of people didn't have the patience to read through the thread to find out its purpose from my later posts.
I'm reprinting here so that you don't have to make the effort:
"So is the general consensus here that because a relatively tiny group of men from a specific ethnic and religious group commit a disgusting crime we shouldn't blame everybody with the same background for their acts?
Are we saying that even though some people chose to make excuses for their behaviour and cover it up we should treat those not involved as normal, descent people?
Are we saying that random bits of information about the religion are completely irrelevant to the situation?
That would be quite an interesting conclusion to draw.
Why is Islam not treated in the same way?
Why aren't the paedophile rings in the north of England thought of in similar terms?
The acts of individuals and small groups of individuals do not reflect those of their wider community any more than those of other criminals.
In my experience, if you try and be consistent the world looks very different." |
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"Of course this thread was extreme and intended to get attention.
I don't believe any of it. It was not irony, it was hyperbole. I was deliberately provoking a reaction to draw attention to the double standards being displayed so vividly in the parallel threads on Asian grooming gangs.
Views that are so extreme that the latest one appears to have been taken down.
In fact this is the only time that someone has felt the need to send me a personally abusive message.
Us and them causes pretty much all of our problems.
In my experience most people are nice and we have more in common than divides us.
Life is not a zero sum game.
All "leftie", ""snowflake" nonsense apparently.
Better that than scowling at the world." |
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Right so this ban that you want.... Does it stretch all over? You're looking at all of Britain, ireland, a big chunk of mainland Europe, a sizeable number in the USA, good few in oz and nz etc... And pretty much all of south America.... When do you want the ban to start and when will it end?
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"Right so this ban that you want.... Does it stretch all over? You're looking at all of Britain, ireland, a big chunk of mainland Europe, a sizeable number in the USA, good few in oz and nz etc... And pretty much all of south America.... When do you want the ban to start and when will it end?
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Well personally I would start with Ireland.They are our closest neighbour with a history of terrorism and a big catholic population and a history of pedo scandals.
Let's call a halt to immigration from the Emerald Isle until we can know what the hell is going on..,I would call for a shut down 0f all Catholic Churches until we route out these sickos.
Interment camps for any catholic priest entering illegally .
We need to secure our borders.Make Britain free off catholic nonces hiding in churches.
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""Of course this thread was extreme and intended to get attention.
I don't believe any of it. It was not irony, it was hyperbole. I was deliberately provoking a reaction to draw attention to the double standards being displayed so vividly in the parallel threads on Asian grooming gangs.
Views that are so extreme that the latest one appears to have been taken down.
In fact this is the only time that someone has felt the need to send me a personally abusive message.
Us and them causes pretty much all of our problems.
In my experience most people are nice and we have more in common than divides us.
Life is not a zero sum game.
All "leftie", ""snowflake" nonsense apparently.
Better that than scowling at the world.""
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I don't think there is double standards, I don't know anybody that didn't hold Catholics and specifically Catholics inside the church responsible for what goes on inside it.
There's a religious and cultural aspect to these crimes that obviously people who don't hold will hold those of similar ideology responsible for.
These things are always sorted out by society applying pressure from inside out and not outside in.
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"But Bob I thought you were a champion of all things green!
Like that other fella... Errm Bob champion
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Yes Ireland is very green and lovely and soon to be fossil fuel free .I also think the Catholic Church is the biggest organised pedo ring on earth.With an endless supply of indoctrinated children to feed into the machine.
I could be wrong but I wouldn't leave any of my children alone with any priest.
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"Do you think it’s just catholic church’s or other faiths bob ?"
All faiths all religions.
However if your country is predominantly Christian like Ireland or Britain then that's where the religious nonces are hiding under the protection of god.
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"Do you think it’s just catholic church’s or other faiths bob ?
All faiths all religions.
However if your country is predominantly Christian like Ireland or Britain then that's where the religious nonces are hiding under the protection of god.
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Including the church of climatology. Building a better world for the children I suppose. Those eco mentalists. It all makes sense now! Global warming kiddie fiddlers... Tut tut. Do they do the same thing to the polar bears that they so wish to save? Must take some amount of sedative to get one of those to lie still. |
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"So would you ban the Catholic Church then "
I would Ban all religious schools.Thats educational apartheid.
I would shut down any church with a priest under investigation.
Banning a religion makes it more popular so that would be a no .
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"Do you think it’s just catholic church’s or other faiths bob ?
All faiths all religions.
However if your country is predominantly Christian like Ireland or Britain then that's where the religious nonces are hiding under the protection of god.
Including the church of climatology. Building a better world for the children I suppose. Those eco mentalists. It all makes sense now! Global warming kiddie fiddlers... Tut tut. Do they do the same thing to the polar bears that they so wish to save? Must take some amount of sedative to get one of those to lie still. "
If there are polar bear fiddlers in green peace or any climatologists groups then name and shame... |
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"apart from trying to stir people up, I can't see the point of your post OP. If you're that concerned what are YOU doing about it?"
It's satire. To hold a mirror up to the frequent Muslim (sic) grooming gang threads. |
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A yellow cross perhaps?
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Please explain, I don't get it unless it is this a vialed anti-Semitic dog whistle I expect you will be requiring all to registrar their parents and grandparents religions when collecting their papers. After all I seem to remember that it was a yellow Star of David that the Nazi's forced the Jews to ware when they started their dehumanisation. Have you plans for a 'Final Solution' yet?
Of course if you're suggesting that all Catholics need to be easily identifiable because of the actions of a relatively few of the clergy and the clergy establishments denial and cover-up of to protect its standing then will you be applying the same rule to Tories, teachers, social workers, radio DJs, pop singers and all the other high profile groups that have had child abuse cover-up scandals? |
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"So just a couple of people able to condemn Catholic paedophile priests.
Nobody able to acknowledge that "Muslim" paedophiles or "Catholic" paedophiles or any other species are completely unrepresentative of their ethnic or religious group and are just messed up.
Well done you.
I would say it was 'a given' that everyone on here thinks that kiddie fiddling is disgusting and deplorable and should be punished to the full extent of the law
That wasn't the point being made at all.
The point is that it is independent of ethnicity or religion. The point is that their behaviour is not representative of
their ethnicity or religion.
This post and many others condemn Muslims but not Catholics or and other group for the same acts and tries to draw a conclusion that this is due to their ethnicity or race, not that they are deviant criminals on their own terms.
Right so condemn them just cos dey is caflicks and cos da other ones is moozlums or summink?
Like I said.... Condemnation is a given by all on here. Peedos are peedos no matter which invisible sky fairy they choose to follow.
No. The opposite.
Abusers from any background are abusers.
However, many people continue to claim that those from an Asian or Muslim background are some how more of a problem and "worse" than others. They seem to claim that they are somehow representative of their wider ethnic or religious group but, for instance, Catholic ones are not."
It's going to take a lot of "back filling" for the OP to get out of the very deep hole he has dug for himself, that's the problem when you deliberately set out to offend others!  |
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"apart from trying to stir people up, I can't see the point of your post OP. If you're that concerned what are YOU doing about it?
It's satire. To hold a mirror up to the frequent Muslim (sic) grooming gang threads. "
Not quite satire, but yes, this is the point.
Lots of people posted on here very angry that they should be made to feel guilty for the actions of a few people just because they happen to be Catholics.
It's completely unjustifiable.
Only the guilty are culpable and the very few who cover up their actions.
Just as it is to accuse all Asian men or Pakistanis or Muslims for the actions of a few.
Yes the reference to marking them with a cross was so that they could be easily identified just as Asians are due to their skin colour.
I've not dug any hole.
Many on here were unable to see their prejudice reflected back at them.
I made that clear on the other posts that I made.
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"apart from trying to stir people up, I can't see the point of your post OP. If you're that concerned what are YOU doing about it?
It's satire. To hold a mirror up to the frequent Muslim (sic) grooming gang threads.
Not quite satire, but yes, this is the point.
Lots of people posted on here very angry that they should be made to feel guilty for the actions of a few people just because they happen to be Catholics.
It's completely unjustifiable.
Only the guilty are culpable and the very few who cover up their actions.
Just as it is to accuse all Asian men or Pakistanis or Muslims for the actions of a few.
Yes the reference to marking them with a cross was so that they could be easily identified just as Asians are due to their skin colour.
I've not dug any hole.
Many on here were unable to see their prejudice reflected back at them.
I made that clear on the other posts that I made.
Read and reflect."
Yes time to start reading and reflecting! |
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over a year ago
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Posted by me twice before:
"So is the general consensus here that because a relatively tiny group of men from a specific ethnic and religious group commit a disgusting crime we shouldn't blame everybody with the same background for their acts?
Are we saying that even though some people chose to make excuses for their behaviour and cover it up we should treat those not involved as normal, descent people?
Are we saying that random bits of information about the religion are completely irrelevant to the situation?
That would be quite an interesting conclusion to draw.
Why is Islam not treated in the same way?
Why aren't the paedophile rings in the north of England thought of in similar terms?
The acts of individuals and small groups of individuals do not reflect those of their wider community any more than those of other criminals.
In my experience, if you try and be consistent the world looks very different."
Read and reflect. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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This too:
By Easyuk OP Find posts by Easyuk Man
9 hours ago
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"Of course this thread was extreme and intended to get attention.
I don't believe any of it. It was not irony, it was hyperbole. I was deliberately provoking a reaction to draw attention to the double standards being displayed so vividly in the parallel threads on Asian grooming gangs.
Views that are so extreme that the latest one appears to have been taken down.
In fact this is the only time that someone has felt the need to send me a personally abusive message.
Us and them causes pretty much all of our problems.
In my experience most people are nice and we have more in common than divides us.
Life is not a zero sum game.
All "leftie", ""snowflake" nonsense apparently.
Better that than scowling at the world." |
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"Posted by me twice before:
"So is the general consensus here that because a relatively tiny group of men from a specific ethnic and religious group commit a disgusting crime we shouldn't blame everybody with the same background for their acts?
Are we saying that even though some people chose to make excuses for their behaviour and cover it up we should treat those not involved as normal, descent people?
Are we saying that random bits of information about the religion are completely irrelevant to the situation?
That would be quite an interesting conclusion to draw.
Why is Islam not treated in the same way?
Why aren't the paedophile rings in the north of England thought of in similar terms?
The acts of individuals and small groups of individuals do not reflect those of their wider community any more than those of other criminals.
In my experience, if you try and be consistent the world looks very different."
Read and reflect."
You will need a JCB to fill the hole you have dug, oh dear I forgot you don't like the man who owns the company! Best get the barrow out! LOL |
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"Right so this ban that you want.... Does it stretch all over? You're looking at all of Britain, ireland, a big chunk of mainland Europe, a sizeable number in the USA, good few in oz and nz etc... And pretty much all of south America.... When do you want the ban to start and when will it end?
Well personally I would start with Ireland.They are our closest neighbour with a history of terrorism and a big catholic population and a history of pedo scandals.
Let's call a halt to immigration from the Emerald Isle until we can know what the hell is going on..,I would call for a shut down 0f all Catholic Churches until we route out these sickos.
Interment camps for any catholic priest entering illegally .
We need to secure our borders.Make Britain free off catholic nonces hiding in churches.
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I think we tried something similar around the 17th century and both nations are still living with the consequences of the chain reactions that have followed ever since. Probably best to shelve that idea  |
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So then OP.... What are you going to do with this ban of catholics? Are you hoping to round them up and put them into concentration camps or what? When. You say 'ban' them... What does that actually mean? Like ban them from their own country? How do you go about banning a religion like that? |
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"So then OP.... What are you going to do with this ban of catholics? Are you hoping to round them up and put them into concentration camps or what? When. You say 'ban' them... What does that actually mean? Like ban them from their own country? How do you go about banning a religion like that? "
So, try reading again.
Fourth time of posting:
"Of course this thread was extreme and intended to get attention.
I don't believe any of it. It was not irony, it was hyperbole. I was deliberately provoking a reaction to draw attention to the double standards being displayed so vividly in the parallel threads on Asian grooming gangs.
Views that are so extreme that the latest one appears to have been taken down.
In fact this is the only time that someone has felt the need to send me a personally abusive message.
Us and them causes pretty much all of our problems.
In my experience most people are nice and we have more in common than divides us.
Life is not a zero sum game.
All "leftie", ""snowflake" nonsense apparently.
Better that than scowling at the world." |
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"So then OP.... What are you going to do with this ban of catholics? Are you hoping to round them up and put them into concentration camps or what? When. You say 'ban' them... What does that actually mean? Like ban them from their own country? How do you go about banning a religion like that? "
"So is the general consensus here that because a relatively tiny group of men from a specific ethnic and religious group commit a disgusting crime we shouldn't blame everybody with the same background for their acts?
Are we saying that even though some people chose to make excuses for their behaviour and cover it up we should treat those not involved as normal, descent people?
Are we saying that random bits of information about the religion are completely irrelevant to the situation?
That would be quite an interesting conclusion to draw.
Why is Islam not treated in the same way?
Why aren't the paedophile rings in the north of England thought of in similar terms?
The acts of individuals and small groups of individuals do not reflect those of their wider community any more than those of other criminals.
In my experience, if you try and be consistent the world looks very different." |
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We should deal with our own filth, that is fair. What has been happening just about everywhere, including Oxford of all places. Is that people who don’t belong here, don’t want to belong here, and have no respect for the basic human rights of anyone who doesn’t pray arse up facing Mecca, are getting away with treating the most vulnerable people in our society as little more than dog meat.
They should be made to face punishment for their crimes in their country of origin. Even if that means public stoning. |
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That's all well and good OP but we need to nail down the finer points of your ban! Does it extend to the offspring, extended families and any pets belonging to catholics? And what actually happens to someone who disregards the ban?
Should the people of Britain become more Pro-active by perhaps removing the gideons bibles kept at hospital and hotel bedsides? Maybe burn books of a Catholic nature at waterstones and wh Smith? |
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"So then OP.... What are you going to do with this ban of catholics? Are you hoping to round them up and put them into concentration camps or what? When. You say 'ban' them... What does that actually mean? Like ban them from their own country? How do you go about banning a religion like that?
"So is the general consensus here that because a relatively tiny group of men from a specific ethnic and religious group commit a disgusting crime we shouldn't blame everybody with the same background for their acts?
Are we saying that even though some people chose to make excuses for their behaviour and cover it up we should treat those not involved as normal, descent people?
Are we saying that random bits of information about the religion are completely irrelevant to the situation?
That would be quite an interesting conclusion to draw.
Why is Islam not treated in the same way?
Why aren't the paedophile rings in the north of England thought of in similar terms?
The acts of individuals and small groups of individuals do not reflect those of their wider community any more than those of other criminals.
In my experience, if you try and be consistent the world looks very different.""
Op your posts are always consistent I will give you that, consistently anti uk pro EU, anti white christian pro muslim! This is just another thread that confirms it. |
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Yeah damn right! What have the catlicks and the mooislims ever done to you eh? Why are you so on their case? And who comes next under your Jack boot of hatred? Hindu? Bhudists? I would absolutely hate to be the next jehovas witness to come knocking on your door! |
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"Yeah damn right! What have the catlicks and the mooislims ever done to you eh? Why are you so on their case? And who comes next under your Jack boot of hatred? Hindu? Bhudists? I would absolutely hate to be the next jehovas witness to come knocking on your door! "
I thought you saw religion the same as child abuse .With the indoctrination of children into their sex cult.
Who knew you are in favour of it.
Religion that is not child abuse ...
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"Yeah damn right! What have the catlicks and the mooislims ever done to you eh? Why are you so on their case? And who comes next under your Jack boot of hatred? Hindu? Bhudists? I would absolutely hate to be the next jehovas witness to come knocking on your door!
I thought you saw religion the
same as child abuse .With the indoctrination of children into their sex cult.
Who knew you are in favour of it.
Religion that is not child abuse ...
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I said religion is the same as child abuse?  When? Sources. Bob sources! Religion is stupid yes but do I think that it or the people who follow it are abusers? That's some mental gymnastics kiddo |
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"Yeah damn right! What have the catlicks and the mooislims ever done to you eh? Why are you so on their case? And who comes next under your Jack boot of hatred? Hindu? Bhudists? I would absolutely hate to be the next jehovas witness to come knocking on your door!
I thought you saw religion the
same as child abuse .With the indoctrination of children into their sex cult.
Who knew you are in favour of it.
Religion that is not child abuse ...
I said religion is the same as child abuse? When? Sources. Bob sources! Religion is stupid yes but do I think that it or the people who follow it are abusers? That's some mental gymnastics kiddo "
It's ok if you think indoctrination of children into a cult is ok .Your not alone .Millions think it's fine..
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No child is born catholic or any religion .You need to get them very young when their minds are easily indoctrinated(that's abuse right there)
Put the fear of god and hell into them and of course make them feel guilty(more abuse)
It's well known a victim of abuse can often become an abuser.
Much like religion they need to indoctrinate children into the cult they were indoctrinated in.
So by the time the priest and the cult own the child's mind 'the body follows more easily for those in the Catholic Church with deviant sexual needs...
There's a pattern . |
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"It's good to know indoctrination of children into cults making susceptible to predators is acceptable for some.
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Yeah you obviously! Throw off your religious shackles bob. Become anti theist.... It's positively liberating. Does mean that you'll have to turn your back on your climatology cult though. But hey.... We shouldn't indoctrinate kids right?! |
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"Your tacit compliance has been noted... "
Ahh now that's unfair Bob. I'm always very vocal in my criticism of your religion. All that brainwashing your priests carry out on people. Young and old, it doesn't matter. It's proper tyranny! |
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So nobody yet even willing to acknowledge the possibility that any tendency towards child abuse, abuse, terrorism, murder or even speeding is the responsibility of individuals and has no bearing on their wider ethnicity or religion.
It has certainly not been a learning experience. Again. |
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Actually I retract that question
This is going to be a colossal waste of time
However, in the spirit of the kind of confrontations you seem to like to provoke on here, you’re a boring and quite silly nincompoop
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"Actually I retract that question
This is going to be a colossal waste of time
However, in the spirit of the kind of confrontations you seem to like to provoke on here, you’re a boring and quite silly nincompoop
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"Actually I retract that question
This is going to be a colossal waste of time
However, in the spirit of the kind of confrontations you seem to like to provoke on here, you’re a boring and quite silly nincompoop
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Large paedophile networks are hidden, sustained, and ignored within the communities in which they operate. It's systematic. The recruitment from within of catholic child abuse, or the "nimby" attitude evident in the muslim networks of the midlands. |
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?"
I know im straying abit here but the BBC also sheilded child abusers. Time we demanded the right to have a vote to see if we want to be forced to fund the BBC. If the BBC are as good as they keep telling us they have nothing to fear from a open fair vote by the Peoples of the UK. I say time to sell the BBC and stop using our money to pay the already fat cats. Let them live in the real world and compete for trade. |
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?
There were estimated to be 158million catholics in Africa in 2009, I suspect some of them may be black!
Talking out your backside as usual!Lol "
Not to mention the rest of the world over 1.3 billion catholics around the world the majority of which either aren't or dont consider themselves to be white they are mainly black, asian, latin american/hispanic and middle eastern. Or the other billions of people around the world also not predominantly white who have other religious beliefs. Being what they call a lapsed catholic I dont particularly care for the Catholic Church or if it comes to it the Protestant Church, Islam Judaism, Buddhism or Hinduism etc etc, but if people choose to have a belief thats their decision and their right to do so and arbitrarily saying any religions should be shut down is wrong. I do think some members of the Catholic church have done unspeakable things but then I think that of some of the other major religions as well. You say about the Catholic Structure/Hierarchy but when it comes down to it if we are talking all male organisational structure you could say the same of Islam Judaism or even some Buddhist Sects. You say about making them wear some symbol like a yellow cross, that has some very sinister overtones as when the Nazis made Jews wear a yellow star of David (Interesting you chose the same colour)?
Here's an idea why dont we leave people to their own beliefs and live and let live.
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?
There were estimated to be 158million catholics in Africa in 2009, I suspect some of them may be black!
Talking out your backside as usual!Lol
Not to mention the rest of the world over 1.3 billion catholics around the world the majority of which either aren't or dont consider themselves to be white they are mainly black, asian, latin american/hispanic and middle eastern. Or the other billions of people around the world also not predominantly white who have other religious beliefs. Being what they call a lapsed catholic I dont particularly care for the Catholic Church or if it comes to it the Protestant Church, Islam Judaism, Buddhism or Hinduism etc etc, but if people choose to have a belief thats their decision and their right to do so and arbitrarily saying any religions should be shut down is wrong. I do think some members of the Catholic church have done unspeakable things but then I think that of some of the other major religions as well. You say about the Catholic Structure/Hierarchy but when it comes down to it if we are talking all male organisational structure you could say the same of Islam Judaism or even some Buddhist Sects. You say about making them wear some symbol like a yellow cross, that has some very sinister overtones as when the Nazis made Jews wear a yellow star of David (Interesting you chose the same colour)?
Here's an idea why dont we leave people to their own beliefs and live and let live.
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"The Catholic church has shielded child abusers for hundreds of years.
They have been victims on an industrial scale.
We should take special note of their suspicious vows of celibacy and all male organisational structure.
The entire organisation should be shut down and all Catholics viewed with suspicion.
As they are white and difficult to identify we should probably have to whare some symbol to identify them.
A yellow cross perhaps?
If you disagree you must be a lefty sympathiser and love paedophiles.
Does that sound a little crazy?
There were estimated to be 158million catholics in Africa in 2009, I suspect some of them may be black!
Talking out your backside as usual!Lol
Not to mention the rest of the world over 1.3 billion catholics around the world the majority of which either aren't or dont consider themselves to be white they are mainly black, asian, latin american/hispanic and middle eastern. Or the other billions of people around the world also not predominantly white who have other religious beliefs. Being what they call a lapsed catholic I dont particularly care for the Catholic Church or if it comes to it the Protestant Church, Islam Judaism, Buddhism or Hinduism etc etc, but if people choose to have a belief thats their decision and their right to do so and arbitrarily saying any religions should be shut down is wrong. I do think some members of the Catholic church have done unspeakable things but then I think that of some of the other major religions as well. You say about the Catholic Structure/Hierarchy but when it comes down to it if we are talking all male organisational structure you could say the same of Islam Judaism or even some Buddhist Sects. You say about making them wear some symbol like a yellow cross, that has some very sinister overtones as when the Nazis made Jews wear a yellow star of David (Interesting you chose the same colour)?
Here's an idea why dont we leave people to their own beliefs and live and let live.
Read my 5th and 6th comments on the thread, then check your outrage.
You may find yourself agreeing with me "
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You would be surprised to know about the high percentage of Catholic priests here in Ireland who are atheists. So why are they priests . I know most of the reasons incidentally |
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It's obvious this was a wind up. In fact I thought it was over egged, but apparently not.
And if Boris wanted to take something in the publics eye, and play out an over exaggerated, clichéd characterisation of that topic, just to show how stupid teh world has become, and still find people take him seriously, then fair play to him.
Wait.
Is that is what is happening here...
Well played, boris, well played. |
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We do know that Irish is in fact an Indo European language .
The Indo-European languages with the greatest numbers of native speakers are Spanish, English, Hindustani (Hindi/Urdu), Portuguese, Bengali, Punjabi, and Russian, each with over 100 million speakers, with German, French, Marathi, Italian, and Persian also having more than 50 million. Today, nearly 42% of the world's population (3.2 billion) speaks an Indo-European language as a first language, by far the highest of any language family.
So as the language & people are indeed a mix from the east
Can you really blame the Irish priests ?
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"It's obvious this was a wind up. In fact I thought it was over egged, but apparently not.
And if Boris wanted to take something in the publics eye, and play out an over exaggerated, clichéd characterisation of that topic, just to show how stupid teh world has become, and still find people take him seriously, then fair play to him.
Wait.
Is that is what is happening here...
Well played, boris, well played. "
It wasn't obvious to everyone was it!
Would the OP have started a thread about Asain grooming gangs if the original thread had been about catholics abusing children? I think we all know that he wouldn't!
As for well played Boris for doing something similar, I would say you would be one of those commenting how crass his words were, show some consistency! |
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Some people didn't realise it was a wind up. But that was kind of the point. Do these people have the same reactions to catholics as Muslims. OP was checking for consistency.
And he was doing do because of the race focus of any and every grooming thread. Would he have started a Muslim version if there was a Catholic thread. Who knows? We do know that there hasn't been such a thread, just Muslim threads. And when he bought up similarities with the Catholic church he was told to go start his own thread.
And please don't second guess how I'd react if Boris looked to hold a mirror up to the world to highlight its inconsistencies. I'd be okay with it. Where I've previously called out vulgaruties it was in context. He was not making coherent point saying Muslims looked like letterboxes or whatever the quote was. It was imo an ill attempt to drop humour in a serious political piece. Do you have any evidence of Boris doing a similar experiment to the OP and me reacting differently?
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"To be fair i don't trust the opinion of a man who spends his time virtue signaling whilst cheating on his wife. "
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"To be fair i don't trust the opinion of a man who spends his time virtue signaling whilst cheating on his wife. "
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"Statistically most paedophiles are white, athiest
And aren't generally known, tolerated, and protected by their community. Hence the outrage when they are."
I guess you haven't read about the huge cover up by the Catholic Church of their pedophiles?
Or the white celebrities who abused kids and women and people looked the other way because they were famous and influential?
But sure, brown people are worse than white people. That's what some people want to say but won't, right?
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"Statistically most paedophiles are white, athiest
And aren't generally known, tolerated, and protected by their community. Hence the outrage when they are.
I guess you haven't read about the huge cover up by the Catholic Church of their pedophiles?
Or the white celebrities who abused kids and women and people looked the other way because they were famous and influential?
But sure, brown people are worse than white people. That's what some people want to say but won't, right?
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White atheists are not members of the Muslim grooming gangs that are being discovered all over this country. Sure there are paedohiles in our midst, I was a prosecution witness against a “man” who got 20 years for abusing his step daughter. He was definitely white English, but the only person complicit in what he was doing was his wife, the mother of that poor girl.
The difference between the two different shades of shite, is that the Muslim grooming gangs are organised and that they network. The cunt I helped get sent down was just as much a pervert and scumbag, but he didn’t have a stack of people watching his back.
Also if you go on demographics, a Pakistani male living in the UK is more likely than anyone else here to be a paedophile. It is common sense, given numbers and percentages. |
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"White atheists are not members of the Muslim grooming gangs that are being discovered all over this country. Sure there are paedohiles in our midst, I was a prosecution witness against a “man” who got 20 years for abusing his step daughter. He was definitely white English, but the only person complicit in what he was doing was his wife, the mother of that poor girl.
The difference between the two different shades of shite, is that the Muslim grooming gangs are organised and that they network. The cunt I helped get sent down was just as much a pervert and scumbag, but he didn’t have a stack of people watching his back.
Also if you go on demographics, a Pakistani male living in the UK is more likely than anyone else here to be a paedophile. It is common sense, given numbers and percentages."
Not true. As a statistician there is not enough information. What we know is if you are a paedophile and is caught and reported on the newspaper, it's likely to be Pakistani.
But what about those who are uncaught? These unknowns mean we cannot make any assumptions. Maybe all paedophiles that are uncaught or covered up are white or Hispanic or russian? Maybe only 0.001% of the population is a paedophile. Then maybe it's more likely, but it isn't likely that he is. But again the unknowns mean it can not be determined.
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"Some people didn't realise it was a wind up. But that was kind of the point. Do these people have the same reactions to catholics as Muslims. OP was checking for consistency.
And he was doing do because of the race focus of any and every grooming thread. Would he have started a Muslim version if there was a Catholic thread. Who knows? We do know that there hasn't been such a thread, just Muslim threads. And when he bought up similarities with the Catholic church he was told to go start his own thread.
And please don't second guess how I'd react if Boris looked to hold a mirror up to the world to highlight its inconsistencies. I'd be okay with it. Where I've previously called out vulgaruties it was in context. He was not making coherent point saying Muslims looked like letterboxes or whatever the quote was. It was imo an ill attempt to drop humour in a serious political piece. Do you have any evidence of Boris doing a similar experiment to the OP and me reacting differently?
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If you read the opening post of "The Grooming Gang" thread it just mentions another gang had been uncovered it doesn't mention any religion or that persons of a particular faith should be marked to identify them, neither is there any racist undertone to it. Whereas this thread goes completely over the top and set out to offend, but the OP later says it's just an experiment, would he have believed the OP of the other thread if he had done the same!? Off course not and if you think he would ever start any Asain grooming gang thread then I would say you are very naive, it's very much a case of birds of a feather flock together with the OP! |
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"White atheists are not members of the Muslim grooming gangs that are being discovered all over this country. Sure there are paedohiles in our midst, I was a prosecution witness against a “man” who got 20 years for abusing his step daughter. He was definitely white English, but the only person complicit in what he was doing was his wife, the mother of that poor girl.
The difference between the two different shades of shite, is that the Muslim grooming gangs are organised and that they network. The cunt I helped get sent down was just as much a pervert and scumbag, but he didn’t have a stack of people watching his back.
Also if you go on demographics, a Pakistani male living in the UK is more likely than anyone else here to be a paedophile. It is common sense, given numbers and percentages."
Is your prejudice so important that you need white abusers to be some how "better" than Asian ones?
White British criminals of this sort are organised. They enjoy chat rooms where they trade stories and discuss the best location to go on "holiday" with foreign children. They also organise sexual acts to be carried out for them online.
Don't minimise that.
Let's look at your "common sense".
There is no data on Pakistani men except in your newspapers.
The actual data is with CEOP
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/national-and-regional-populations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest#by-ethnicity
"The latest data we have on this is from the 2013 CEOP study. It reports 57 cases of Type 1 group abuse in 2012, and police provided ethnicity data on 52 of these.
Half of those Type 1 cases involved all-Asian groups. 21 per cent were all-white groups, and 17 per cent were groups containing multiple ethnicities.
75 per cent of recorded Type 1 group abusers, who target victims based on their vulnerability, were Asian. The Office for National Statistics estimates that 7.5 per cent of the UK’s population are Asian.
17 per cent of Type 1 offenders were white, compared to 86 per cent of the UK population.
There were six recorded cases of Type 2 group abuse.
100 per cent of recorded Type 2 group offenders, who abuse children because of long-standing paedophilic interest, are white."
"That means in terms of raw figures, there are more Asian men carrying out group abuse than white men (229 compared to 70)."
“25 [police] forces identified a total of 2,120 lone perpetrators involved in either suspected or confirmed cases of non-familial contact child sexual abuse in 2012. In comparison, all 31 forces reported a cumulative total of 65 group and gang associated offences.”
There are approximately 1.3 million Asian men in the UK of which 229 were convicted of acts of sexual abuse.
229 vs 1.3 million
0.16%
That is a particular problem with a community is it?
White attackers:
2190 Vs 16 million
0.15%
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"Some people didn't realise it was a wind up. But that was kind of the point. Do these people have the same reactions to catholics as Muslims. OP was checking for consistency.
And he was doing do because of the race focus of any and every grooming thread. Would he have started a Muslim version if there was a Catholic thread. Who knows? We do know that there hasn't been such a thread, just Muslim threads. And when he bought up similarities with the Catholic church he was told to go start his own thread.
And please don't second guess how I'd react if Boris looked to hold a mirror up to the world to highlight its inconsistencies. I'd be okay with it. Where I've previously called out vulgaruties it was in context. He was not making coherent point saying Muslims looked like letterboxes or whatever the quote was. It was imo an ill attempt to drop humour in a serious political piece. Do you have any evidence of Boris doing a similar experiment to the OP and me reacting differently?
If you read the opening post of "The Grooming Gang" thread it just mentions another gang had been uncovered it doesn't mention any religion or that persons of a particular faith should be marked to identify them, neither is there any racist undertone to it. Whereas this thread goes completely over the top and set out to offend, but the OP later says it's just an experiment, would he have believed the OP of the other thread if he had done the same!? Off course not and if you think he would ever start any Asain grooming gang thread then I would say you are very naive, it's very much a case of birds of a feather flock together with the OP! "
I've lost track what exactly you're trying to lay at my door.
But you're right, the first post in the grooming thread didn't mention race. But the OP them went on to call it a thread about Asia grooming gangs. So who knows what they were really thinking? And it definitely didn't cascade into a thread about Asians... |
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"White atheists are not members of the Muslim grooming gangs that are being discovered all over this country. Sure there are paedohiles in our midst, I was a prosecution witness against a “man” who got 20 years for abusing his step daughter. He was definitely white English, but the only person complicit in what he was doing was his wife, the mother of that poor girl.
The difference between the two different shades of shite, is that the Muslim grooming gangs are organised and that they network. The cunt I helped get sent down was just as much a pervert and scumbag, but he didn’t have a stack of people watching his back.
Also if you go on demographics, a Pakistani male living in the UK is more likely than anyone else here to be a paedophile. It is common sense, given numbers and percentages.
Not true. As a statistician there is not enough information. What we know is if you are a paedophile and is caught and reported on the newspaper, it's likely to be Pakistani.
But what about those who are uncaught? These unknowns mean we cannot make any assumptions. Maybe all paedophiles that are uncaught or covered up are white or Hispanic or russian? Maybe only 0.001% of the population is a paedophile. Then maybe it's more likely, but it isn't likely that he is. But again the unknowns mean it can not be determined.
But to the OP let's ban football coaches from the FA too. "
The OP doesn't really think that anyone should be banned.
He thinks that they should just be even-handed.
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"Some people didn't realise it was a wind up. But that was kind of the point. Do these people have the same reactions to catholics as Muslims. OP was checking for consistency.
And he was doing do because of the race focus of any and every grooming thread. Would he have started a Muslim version if there was a Catholic thread. Who knows? We do know that there hasn't been such a thread, just Muslim threads. And when he bought up similarities with the Catholic church he was told to go start his own thread.
And please don't second guess how I'd react if Boris looked to hold a mirror up to the world to highlight its inconsistencies. I'd be okay with it. Where I've previously called out vulgaruties it was in context. He was not making coherent point saying Muslims looked like letterboxes or whatever the quote was. It was imo an ill attempt to drop humour in a serious political piece. Do you have any evidence of Boris doing a similar experiment to the OP and me reacting differently?
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Thank you.
I did start a thread on Catholic paedophiles, as suggested.
Guess what? A completely different reaction.
Still those unable to accept the simple truth that they are not treating people even handedly.
They are biased.
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I am not racist but it certainly sounds like you are,
If you don't like the way things are done and the way people act, you know where the door is shut it quietly as you leave,
Also for your information I actually kow some asian catholics,
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"I am not racist but it certainly sounds like you are,
If you don't like the way things are done and the way people act, you know where the door is shut it quietly as you leave,
Also for your information I actually kow some asian catholics,
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If you have just read the start of the thread then fine.
If you would care to read some more then you can see how you choose to respond to the next few questions.
Are you telling me that it's wrong to treat people even handedly?
Are you telling me that is right to treat all Asian men as potential abusers or Muslims as terrorists any more than it is to treat Catholics as such?
Have you just told me to get out of "your" country because I think that it's wrong not to treat people equally? |
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"White atheists are not members of the Muslim grooming gangs that are being discovered all over this country. Sure there are paedohiles in our midst, I was a prosecution witness against a “man” who got 20 years for abusing his step daughter. He was definitely white English, but the only person complicit in what he was doing was his wife, the mother of that poor girl.
The difference between the two different shades of shite, is that the Muslim grooming gangs are organised and that they network. The cunt I helped get sent down was just as much a pervert and scumbag, but he didn’t have a stack of people watching his back.
Also if you go on demographics, a Pakistani male living in the UK is more likely than anyone else here to be a paedophile. It is common sense, given numbers and percentages.
Not true. As a statistician there is not enough information. What we know is if you are a paedophile and is caught and reported on the newspaper, it's likely to be Pakistani.
But what about those who are uncaught? These unknowns mean we cannot make any assumptions. Maybe all paedophiles that are uncaught or covered up are white or Hispanic or russian? Maybe only 0.001% of the population is a paedophile. Then maybe it's more likely, but it isn't likely that he is. But again the unknowns mean it can not be determined.
But to the OP let's ban football coaches from the FA too.
The OP doesn't really think that anyone should be banned.
He thinks that they should just be even-handed.
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For all those still outraged;
Here's the reference thread
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/896250
"Start a thread about the Catholic Church then I’ll post on it this is a thread about Asian grooming gangs" |
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"For all those still outraged;
Here's the reference thread
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/896250
"Start a thread about the Catholic Church then I’ll post on it this is a thread about Asian grooming gangs""
I saw that. It wasn't even about Asian grooming gang. It became one and the op changed their mind. |
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"For all those still outraged;
Here's the reference thread
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/896250
"Start a thread about the Catholic Church then I’ll post on it this is a thread about Asian grooming gangs""
Even now the OP is still after a pat on the back, perhaps if you had done a bit of research prior to starting your thread you wouldn't have had to deliberately set out to offend by making racist and bigoted remarks!
You could have spoken about Cardinal Pell the most senior catholic official to ever be accused of abusing children ( actually convicted but awaiting appeal), but you were too incensed by the asain thread to think logically! |
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