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If you HAD to, which one would you vote for?
If you simply couldn't vote for either, even with a gun to your head, please skip the thread.
Personally, I just couldn't see a PM with cunt as a surname. |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
Huddersfield /derby cinemas |
"If you HAD to, which one would you vote for?
If you simply couldn't vote for either, even with a gun to your head, please skip the thread.
Personally, I just couldn't see a PM with cunt as a surname. "
. I will be skipping then |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Hunt: the guy who co-authored the 2005 policy book that included the chapter on how to sell the NHS.
Johnson: the guy who is chums with Farage, Trump and Banks, who all want to get their hands on the NHS.
Er, no thanks.
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over a year ago
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"If you HAD to, which one would you vote for?
If you simply couldn't vote for either, even with a gun to your head, please skip the thread.
Personally, I just couldn't see a PM with cunt as a surname. "
In america johnson is slang for a dick
And hunt rhymes with cunt.
So the tory party have a choice between a dick and a cunt. |
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If i had to it would be interesting viewing on PMQS with Boris. But as someone said, he will crash quickly.
Hunt can hold his neve in public. So he's a major two faced idiot. Abit like may really. |
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Hunt seems to on a mission to prove his BREXIT credentials having originally been a Remainer. Johnson (whilst anyone who knows him knows in his heart of hearts he is actually more Remainer than Leaver) sold his sole for his political ambition 3 years ago and is now believed by the BREXIT Tories to be sound on the BREXIT question. Unfortunately for them they don't actually know Johnson as well as they think. And it's for that reason why, right now, if I had a vote in this I would vote for Johnson. Here's why:-
When Johnson is faced with the option of either ditching BREXIT or facing a General Election which he will surely lose which way do you think he'll jump? Hunt wouldn't be able to ditch BREXIT under any circumstances but Johnson may just have enough credibility with enough BREXITERS to pull it off. Either way, either via a referendum, a General Election or a Johnson revocation of article 50, BREXIT is dead and has been since the Euro Elections and Peterborough. BREXITERS just haven't realised it yet.
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"Hunt seems to on a mission to prove his BREXIT credentials having originally been a Remainer. Johnson (whilst anyone who knows him knows in his heart of hearts he is actually more Remainer than Leaver) sold his sole for his political ambition 3 years ago and is now believed by the BREXIT Tories to be sound on the BREXIT question. Unfortunately for them they don't actually know Johnson as well as they think. And it's for that reason why, right now, if I had a vote in this I would vote for Johnson. Here's why:-
When Johnson is faced with the option of either ditching BREXIT or facing a General Election which he will surely lose which way do you think he'll jump? Hunt wouldn't be able to ditch BREXIT under any circumstances but Johnson may just have enough credibility with enough BREXITERS to pull it off. Either way, either via a referendum, a General Election or a Johnson revocation of article 50, BREXIT is dead and has been since the Euro Elections and Peterborough. BREXITERS just haven't realised it yet.
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The crystal ball has been out again, was it the same one you predicted remain would win the referendum with!  |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Hunt seems to on a mission to prove his BREXIT credentials having originally been a Remainer. Johnson (whilst anyone who knows him knows in his heart of hearts he is actually more Remainer than Leaver) sold his sole for his political ambition 3 years ago and is now believed by the BREXIT Tories to be sound on the BREXIT question. Unfortunately for them they don't actually know Johnson as well as they think. And it's for that reason why, right now, if I had a vote in this I would vote for Johnson. Here's why:-
When Johnson is faced with the option of either ditching BREXIT or facing a General Election which he will surely lose which way do you think he'll jump? Hunt wouldn't be able to ditch BREXIT under any circumstances but Johnson may just have enough credibility with enough BREXITERS to pull it off. Either way, either via a referendum, a General Election or a Johnson revocation of article 50, BREXIT is dead and has been since the Euro Elections and Peterborough. BREXITERS just haven't realised it yet.
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and in the real world.  |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Hunt seems to on a mission to prove his BREXIT credentials having originally been a Remainer. Johnson (whilst anyone who knows him knows in his heart of hearts he is actually more Remainer than Leaver) sold his sole for his political ambition 3 years ago and is now believed by the BREXIT Tories to be sound on the BREXIT question. Unfortunately for them they don't actually know Johnson as well as they think. And it's for that reason why, right now, if I had a vote in this I would vote for Johnson. Here's why:-
When Johnson is faced with the option of either ditching BREXIT or facing a General Election which he will surely lose which way do you think he'll jump? Hunt wouldn't be able to ditch BREXIT under any circumstances but Johnson may just have enough credibility with enough BREXITERS to pull it off. Either way, either via a referendum, a General Election or a Johnson revocation of article 50, BREXIT is dead and has been since the Euro Elections and Peterborough. BREXITERS just haven't realised it yet.
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The Nixon goes to China moment
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"Hunt seems to on a mission to prove his BREXIT credentials having originally been a Remainer. Johnson (whilst anyone who knows him knows in his heart of hearts he is actually more Remainer than Leaver) sold his sole for his political ambition 3 years ago and is now believed by the BREXIT Tories to be sound on the BREXIT question. Unfortunately for them they don't actually know Johnson as well as they think. And it's for that reason why, right now, if I had a vote in this I would vote for Johnson. Here's why:-
When Johnson is faced with the option of either ditching BREXIT or facing a General Election which he will surely lose which way do you think he'll jump? Hunt wouldn't be able to ditch BREXIT under any circumstances but Johnson may just have enough credibility with enough BREXITERS to pull it off. Either way, either via a referendum, a General Election or a Johnson revocation of article 50, BREXIT is dead and has been since the Euro Elections and Peterborough. BREXITERS just haven't realised it yet.
The Nixon goes to China moment
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In a nutshell, yes |
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"Hunt seems to on a mission to prove his BREXIT credentials having originally been a Remainer. Johnson (whilst anyone who knows him knows in his heart of hearts he is actually more Remainer than Leaver) sold his sole for his political ambition 3 years ago and is now believed by the BREXIT Tories to be sound on the BREXIT question. Unfortunately for them they don't actually know Johnson as well as they think. And it's for that reason why, right now, if I had a vote in this I would vote for Johnson. Here's why:-
When Johnson is faced with the option of either ditching BREXIT or facing a General Election which he will surely lose which way do you think he'll jump? Hunt wouldn't be able to ditch BREXIT under any circumstances but Johnson may just have enough credibility with enough BREXITERS to pull it off. Either way, either via a referendum, a General Election or a Johnson revocation of article 50, BREXIT is dead and has been since the Euro Elections and Peterborough. BREXITERS just haven't realised it yet.
The crystal ball has been out again, was it the same one you predicted remain would win the referendum with! "
It was the same one I used back in November/December 2017 when I told you that "regulatory alignment" meant that a hard BREXIT was dead; and also that, if May didn't get her deal or something very like it through Parliament we would not be leaving with 'no deal' on the 29th March. But keep believing if you want, it makes little difference to what is actually going to happen.
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Hunt: the guy who co-authored the 2005 policy book that included the chapter on how to sell the NHS.
Johnson: the guy who is chums with Farage, Trump and Banks, who all want to get their hands on the NHS.
Er, no thanks.
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Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"Hunt: the guy who co-authored the 2005 policy book that included the chapter on how to sell the NHS.
Johnson: the guy who is chums with Farage, Trump and Banks, who all want to get their hands on the NHS.
Er, no thanks.
Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda"
Are you saying those two statements are false? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda
And yet it's something the Tories keep looking into, weird isn't it?"
When was that then? i must have missed that debate in the commons. |
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over a year ago
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"Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda
And yet it's something the Tories keep looking into, weird isn't it?When was that then? i must have missed that debate in the commons."
Hardly going to be debated is it ? It will happen surreptitiously, piece by piece but carry on deluding yourself that wankers like Farage, Hunt and Bloatface give a flying fuck about saving the NHS for the general public - jeez, the sheet blind wilful ignorance |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda
And yet it's something the Tories keep looking into, weird isn't it?When was that then? i must have missed that debate in the commons.
Hardly going to be debated is it ? It will happen surreptitiously, piece by piece but carry on deluding yourself that wankers like Farage, Hunt and Bloatface give a flying fuck about saving the NHS for the general public - jeez, the sheet blind wilful ignorance "
you just keep believing that corbyn propaganda with your "sheer blind wilful ignorance" |
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"Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda
And yet it's something the Tories keep looking into, weird isn't it?When was that then? i must have missed that debate in the commons.
Hardly going to be debated is it ? It will happen surreptitiously, piece by piece but carry on deluding yourself that wankers like Farage, Hunt and Bloatface give a flying fuck about saving the NHS for the general public - jeez, the sheet blind wilful ignorance you just keep believing that corbyn propaganda with your "sheer blind wilful ignorance" "
I don’t believe I said anything about Corbyn .... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you HAD to, which one would you vote for?
If you simply couldn't vote for either, even with a gun to your head, please skip the thread.
Personally, I just couldn't see a PM with cunt as a surname. "
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/jeremy-hunt-timeline-of-shame/
I particularly found the incident when he hid behind a tree rsther funny!
Boris for me |
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"Hunt: the guy who co-authored the 2005 policy book that included the chapter on how to sell the NHS.
Johnson: the guy who is chums with Farage, Trump and Banks, who all want to get their hands on the NHS.
Er, no thanks.
Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda"
Did you not listen to Trump when he was over here? Do you not understand that a trade deal with the USA is what these turds want? Do you not understand that everything will be on the table?
Jeez |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda
And yet it's something the Tories keep looking into, weird isn't it?"
Selling off was started by a labour government who also built hospitals with American money and the NHS owes millions,all thanks to labour |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
Huddersfield /derby cinemas |
"Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda
And yet it's something the Tories keep looking into, weird isn't it?Selling off was started by a labour government who also built hospitals with American money and the NHS owes millions,all thanks to labour"
. Perhaps hospitals and schools should not have been in such an appalling state when Labour won the 1997 Election , something needed to be done and was done , |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Selling off was started by a labour government who also built hospitals with American money and the NHS owes millions,all thanks to labour"
Er, no.
The NHS is not empowered to borrow money.
It can spend only the resources allocated to it by Parliament.
It is empowered to raise funds from other sources, such as charging.
But is is not empowered to borrow.
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"Hunt: the guy who co-authored the 2005 policy book that included the chapter on how to sell the NHS.
Johnson: the guy who is chums with Farage, Trump and Banks, who all want to get their hands on the NHS.
Er, no thanks.
Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda
Did you not listen to Trump when he was over here? Do you not understand that a trade deal with the USA is what these turds want? Do you not understand that everything will be on the table?
Jeez"
Only Trump actually back peddled after that press conference with Theresa May in his interview with Piers Morgan he said the NHS would not be on the table, but hey, why let facts get in the way of a good anti Trump, anti USA rant. |
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"Selling off was started by a labour government who also built hospitals with American money and the NHS owes millions,all thanks to labour
Er, no.
The NHS is not empowered to borrow money.
It can spend only the resources allocated to it by Parliament.
It is empowered to raise funds from other sources, such as charging.
But is is not empowered to borrow.
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It was the Blair/Brown Labour governement who took PFI spending in the NHS to whole new levels though, at huge extra cost to the tax payer, these were bad deals which the country is still paying for today. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
Lolol yes, believe every word Trump says, of course.
The NHS is one of the priorities of the US in any negotiations.
No need to ask Trump.
It is written in black and white in the US list of priorities issued for consultation with its industry and commerce.
Trump only back-peddled after someone told him it would be most unhelpful to the brexit party in the peterborough by-election.
His ambassador used the very same expression in a TV interview a few days before - the NHS was "on the table".
It still is.
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"Nobody is going to sell the NHS this is just sad pathetic socialist propaganda
And yet it's something the Tories keep looking into, weird isn't it?Selling off was started by a labour government who also built hospitals with American money and the NHS owes millions,all thanks to labour"
Blair was and is a traitor. Hes duch a bastard, Tories would have loved him as s conservative leader |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
Huddersfield /derby cinemas |
Hunt said he visited a steel wheel manufacturing firm in the midlands who export to Europe , adding that their margin is 4% , he then said that if we leave the EU with no deal and tariffs are 10% the firm would fold and all their employees would lose their jobs , but the political cost of not leaving the EU would be greater than the economic cost ...,, I can only assume he means the political cost for himself and the Conservative party against the economic cost of the owner and employees of the firm |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Lolol yes, believe every word Trump says, of course.
The NHS is one of the priorities of the US in any negotiations.
No need to ask Trump.
It is written in black and white in the US list of priorities issued for consultation with its industry and commerce.
Trump only back-peddled after someone told him it would be most unhelpful to the brexit party in the peterborough by-election.
His ambassador used the very same expression in a TV interview a few days before - the NHS was "on the table".
It still is.
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Nice spin i watched the interview and the interviewer ask the ambassador if the nhs was on the table he obviously said everything is on the table which of course is right.All negotiations start that way until they start taken them off the table.Trying to spin it that it is a usa priority is total crap but thats what journalist do pray on suckers who cant see through a leading question to get headlines and jump on the bandwagon. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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All these years, and all these scares relating to the NHS. Yet it is still here and still free. This is just still more of the same. I didn’t believe it then and I don’t believe it now. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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I feel that the current tensions in the middle east woth Trump and Iran tells me that Boris must lose for all our sakes nothing to do with Brexit.
my thinking is that at a time of great international tension can we afford to have two lose cannons running things.
This current situation is far greater than Brexit,it is a possibility we could stumble into a third world war as we stumbled into war in 1914.
The next few weeks are the most important weeks for this planet this century. |
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"I feel that the current tensions in the middle east woth Trump and Iran tells me that Boris must lose for all our sakes nothing to do with Brexit.
my thinking is that at a time of great international tension can we afford to have two lose cannons running things.
This current situation is far greater than Brexit,it is a possibility we could stumble into a third world war as we stumbled into war in 1914.
The next few weeks are the most important weeks for this planet this's century."
Ok Nostradamus. |
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over a year ago
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Watching hunt this morning on telly calling out boris as a coward I think he's onto a winner.
Boris can't remain cowering behind the sofa and expect to be PM.
Where's the bulldog spirit.Its been replaced with a chihuahua standing in a puddle of piss of his own making.. |
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"Watching hunt this morning on telly calling out boris as a coward I think he's onto a winner.
Boris can't remain cowering behind the sofa and expect to be PM.
Where's the bulldog spirit.Its been replaced with a chihuahua standing in a puddle of piss of his own making.. "
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/jeremy-hunt-timeline-of-shame/
Besides his mad stare, ( he looks like a ferret who's just found an extra large hens egg) he's hardly perfect
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"Watching hunt this morning on telly calling out boris as a coward I think he's onto a winner.
Boris can't remain cowering behind the sofa and expect to be PM.
Where's the bulldog spirit.Its been replaced with a chihuahua standing in a puddle of piss of his own making..
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/jeremy-hunt-timeline-of-shame/
Besides his mad stare, ( he looks like a ferret who's just found an extra large hens egg) he's hardly perfect
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Oh I couldn't vote for him.I would rather have my eyeballs scooped out with rust spoons.
I do think he's playing the game better.I would hazard a guess his team know the dark arts well and had hand in the recent accusations laying him low. |
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"Watching hunt this morning on telly calling out boris as a coward I think he's onto a winner.
Boris can't remain cowering behind the sofa and expect to be PM.
Where's the bulldog spirit.Its been replaced with a chihuahua standing in a puddle of piss of his own making..
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/jeremy-hunt-timeline-of-shame/
Besides his mad stare, ( he looks like a ferret who's just found an extra large hens egg) he's hardly perfect
Oh I couldn't vote for him.I would rather have my eyeballs scooped out with rust spoons.
I do think he's playing the game better.I would hazard a guess his team know the dark arts well and had hand in the recent accusations laying him low."
I agree, someone mentioned he was emulating David Cameron in his appearances too. Boris looked terrible in comparison, looming bumbly and unclear |
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Boris to me is starting to look like someone who has played an elaborate practical joke all his life.
And now it’s dawning on him that it’s all gone too far and life is now no longer a jolly jape and he may have to do some real work. |
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"As hunt has said "Don't be a coward Boris, man up and show nation you can cope".
That's fighting talk.. "
Maybe, but I reckon he's just shot himself in the foot.
When you're the underdog, making personal attacks and calling the more popular candidate with your particular electorate a coward isn't a smart move |
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"As hunt has said "Don't be a coward Boris, man up and show nation you can cope".
That's fighting talk..
Maybe, but I reckon he's just shot himself in the foot.
When you're the underdog, making personal attacks and calling the more popular candidate with your particular electorate a coward isn't a smart move"
Nobody votes for a coward. Especially one who portrays himself as a churchillian bulldog .
Its now up to boris to prove he's not a coward.Balls in his court now.If he peeks from behind the sofa..
My guess is he'll cower and hope the blue rinse brigade couldn't give a fuck if he's cowardly or not.Then he'll be ruined anyway at the next GE for not having a pair swinging below his belly.
Hunt on the other hand is looking like a title contender.With his ten yard stare and balls out approach. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Lolol yes, believe every word Trump says, of course.
The NHS is one of the priorities of the US in any negotiations.
No need to ask Trump.
It is written in black and white in the US list of priorities issued for consultation with its industry and commerce.
Trump only back-peddled after someone told him it would be most unhelpful to the brexit party in the peterborough by-election.
His ambassador used the very same expression in a TV interview a few days before - the NHS was "on the table".
It still is.
Nice spin i watched the interview and the interviewer ask the ambassador if the nhs was on the table he obviously said everything is on the table which of course is right.All negotiations start that way until they start taken them off the table.Trying to spin it that it is a usa priority is total crap but thats what journalist do pray on suckers who cant see through a leading question to get headlines and jump on the bandwagon."
The document containing US priorities for negotiation with the UK is on the website of the US Government. From memory, big pharma is 2nd or 3rd on the list. |
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"Watching hunt this morning on telly calling out boris as a coward I think he's onto a winner.
Boris can't remain cowering behind the sofa and expect to be PM.
Where's the bulldog spirit.Its been replaced with a chihuahua standing in a puddle of piss of his own making.. "
Or maybe he is not just pandering to the press who just want to keep asking the same old boring shite about his private life instead of the issues that really matter  |
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"Watching hunt this morning on telly calling out boris as a coward I think he's onto a winner.
Boris can't remain cowering behind the sofa and expect to be PM.
Where's the bulldog spirit.Its been replaced with a chihuahua standing in a puddle of piss of his own making..
Or maybe he is not just pandering to the press who just want to keep asking the same old boring shite about his private life instead of the issues that really matter "
Like how we will manage under no deal, and not quoting article 24, which has been debunked by the attorney General... Boris has got to where he has putting his personality before policies. Unfortunately many of his supporters don't care about policies yet get upset if his personality is put in question. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Watching hunt this morning on telly calling out boris as a coward I think he's onto a winner.
Boris can't remain cowering behind the sofa and expect to be PM.
Where's the bulldog spirit.Its been replaced with a chihuahua standing in a puddle of piss of his own making..
Or maybe he is not just pandering to the press who just want to keep asking the same old boring shite about his private life instead of the issues that really matter "
Maybe his bird was pissed up and he dont want to embarrass her who knows and who actually gives a shit. |
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"Hunt said he visited a steel wheel manufacturing firm in the midlands who export to Europe , adding that their margin is 4% , he then said that if we leave the EU with no deal and tariffs are 10% the firm would fold and all their employees would lose their jobs , but the political cost of not leaving the EU would be greater than the economic cost ...,, I can only assume he means the political cost for himself and the Conservative party against the economic cost of the owner and employees of the firm "
Always interested in these comments as manufacturing of ferrous and non ferrous parts is my sector, though not specifically automotive.
As far as I can see the tariff would be 6.5%.
If the margin was 4% was this before the devaluation of the pound?
If it was they are quids in if it wasn’t then they were losing money, the current move in the exchange rate is a lot more than 4%.
Interesting that they are steel wheels, very few cars have steel wheels and even the majority of aluminium wheel production had moved from the UK long before Brexit. We used to service the alloy wheel factory in Rochester and South Wales.
Interested to see the link to the interview |
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Is Boris still hiding from scrutiny .??Its a long game of hide and seek..Not really PM material it seems.
I'll never vote Tory but hunt seems a better human being and no doubt the Tory faithful are now seeing boris as cowardly and unmanly if he continues to slink in through the back door to his office.
He's looking rather pathetic and scared...
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