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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
A brussels committee had decreed that veggie burgers should be replaced by veggie discs and vegan sausages be replaced with vegan tubes with a host of other things like tofu steaks needed to be renamed on food labels.You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out. |
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"You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out. "
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
A burger or a sausage has meat in it.
These people are piggy-backing on the generic brand.
This is the same mindset that protects Cornish Pasties.
You cannot call your product a Cornish Pastie unless you make it in Cornwall.
Or Whisky in Scotland.
Or Stornoway Black Pudding
Or Yorkshire Pudding.
The food industry wants to copy a product and piggy-back on its identity.
The EU is pushing back.
Burgers contain meat.
So do sausages.
Fuck off and call your veggie product something else - think of a name for your product instead of trying to trick the consumer.
A win for the consumer against the manipulative big business.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"There are people out there who see "burger" and "sausage" and think they are buying a burger or a sausage.
Unfortunately, not everyone is as bright as you.
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dont make me laugh.  Its obviously a ploy by the meat industry who are worried about falling sales to veterinarians to make the food sound less palatable.I would have thought all the eco warriors would be up in arms about it.I dont think you need to be bright to understand a vegan sausage is vegan are you trying to tell me some would think its an animal? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"There are people out there who see "burger" and "sausage" and think they are buying a burger or a sausage.
Unfortunately, not everyone is as bright as you.
dont make me laugh. Its obviously a ploy by the meat industry who are worried about falling sales to veterinarians to make the food sound less palatable.I would have thought all the eco warriors would be up in arms about it.I dont think you need to be bright to understand a vegan sausage is vegan are you trying to tell me some would think its an animal?"
Are you meat eater?
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"A burger or a sausage has meat in it.
These people are piggy-backing on the generic brand.
This is the same mindset that protects Cornish Pasties.
You cannot call your product a Cornish Pastie unless you make it in Cornwall.
Or Whisky in Scotland.
Or Stornoway Black Pudding
Or Yorkshire Pudding.
The food industry wants to copy a product and piggy-back on its identity.
The EU is pushing back.
Burgers contain meat.
So do sausages.
Fuck off and call your veggie product something else - think of a name for your product instead of trying to trick the consumer.
A win for the consumer against the manipulative big business.
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Quite the opposite a win for the meat industry lobbyists must have paid out some big bucks to get that one on the table. |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"There are people out there who see "burger" and "sausage" and think they are buying a burger or a sausage.
Unfortunately, not everyone is as bright as you.
dont make me laugh. Its obviously a ploy by the meat industry who are worried about falling sales to veterinarians to make the food sound less palatable.I would have thought all the eco warriors would be up in arms about it.I dont think you need to be bright to understand a vegan sausage is vegan are you trying to tell me some would think its an animal?
Are you meat eater?
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i eat both but have veggies in my family but we must all be bright because we never get them mixed up. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
Here's a question.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Copycat products have to come up with another name.
It looks like the distilleries will soon be outside the EU.
Japan makes a lot of "whisky".
I wonder if, once Scotland no longer comes under EU geographic identity protection, will the Japanse be allowed to sell their product as whisky?
They just did a big trade deal with the EU.
Same goes for the rest of the UK products.
Anyone will be allowed to sell "yorkshire puddings" anywhere in the EU27 + 4, whether its made in Doncaster or Dubai.
I wonder what other geographic protections will disappear with Brexit.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
A meat eater tends to think they are eating meat when they buy a sausage or a burger.
I've never heard anyone bite into a cheese burger containing a non-meat something in the middle and waxing lyrical about the texture or taste.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"A meat eater tends to think they are eating meat when they buy a sausage or a burger.
I've never heard anyone bite into a cheese burger containing a non-meat something in the middle and waxing lyrical about the texture or taste.
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What if it says veggie burger or tofu steak? you cant really believe what you are writing. |
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I don't particularly agree with the decision but the desperation to find stuff to blame the EU for is really, laughably pathetic.
Oh no, our quorn burgers won't be called burgers. Curse you EU, truly my life is ruined. |
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"Here's a question.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Copycat products have to come up with another name.
It looks like the distilleries will soon be outside the EU.
Japan makes a lot of "whisky".
I wonder if, once Scotland no longer comes under EU geographic identity protection, will the Japanse be allowed to sell their product as whisky?
They just did a big trade deal with the EU.
Same goes for the rest of the UK products.
Anyone will be allowed to sell "yorkshire puddings" anywhere in the EU27 + 4, whether its made in Doncaster or Dubai.
I wonder what other geographic protections will disappear with Brexit.
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aw ffs pls don’t say Yorkshire puddings aswell we don’t buy them like but the wife makes them will she still be allowed ? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"A meat eater tends to think they are eating meat when they buy a sausage or a burger.
I've never heard anyone bite into a cheese burger containing a non-meat something in the middle and waxing lyrical about the texture or taste.
What if it says veggie burger or tofu steak? you cant really believe what you are writing."
Copycat products.
The EU27 + 4 will soon be full of them.
All the UK stuff. Except its not made in the EU.
Next time you go to Spain and ask for, I dunno, a pit of English bitter, or a Scotch.
What you'll get is a copy.
It'll be the house brand.
The proper stuff will be on the 2nd shelf behind the bar person and twice the price.
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"I don't particularly agree with the decision but the desperation to find stuff to blame the EU for is really, laughably pathetic.
Oh no, our quorn burgers won't be called burgers. Curse you EU, truly my life is ruined. "
Will this be another storm in an EU teacup..
First World problems eh.. |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"I don't particularly agree with the decision but the desperation to find stuff to blame the EU for is really, laughably pathetic.
Oh no, our quorn burgers won't be called burgers. Curse you EU, truly my life is ruined. "
No mate not desperation i saw a debate on it very late last night so googled it to find out how many eu people have been working on this for how long and how much has been spent,cant find that out.Its all our money that is being wasted on crap like this.Alot of people are making a hell of a lot of money to bring in rules for us plebs.The meat industry have more than likely paid out a lot of backhanders through lobbyists to protect their industry and then pay for this racket to impose more rules it beats me that people cannot see they are being played by this big club. |
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over a year ago
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"I don't particularly agree with the decision but the desperation to find stuff to blame the EU for is really, laughably pathetic.
Oh no, our quorn burgers won't be called burgers. Curse you EU, truly my life is ruined. No mate not desperation i saw a debate on it very late last night so googled it to find out how many eu people have been working on this for how long and how much has been spent,cant find that out.Its all our money that is being wasted on crap like this.Alot of people are making a hell of a lot of money to bring in rules for us plebs.The meat industry have more than likely paid out a lot of backhanders through lobbyists to protect their industry and then pay for this racket to impose more rules it beats me that people cannot see they are being played by this big club. "
It will be interesting to see if the UK reverse the regs when we leave... Or what we do with veggie burgers... Fairly sure the NFU weren't saying its a waste of time and effort... |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"I don't particularly agree with the decision but the desperation to find stuff to blame the EU for is really, laughably pathetic.
Oh no, our quorn burgers won't be called burgers. Curse you EU, truly my life is ruined. No mate not desperation i saw a debate on it very late last night so googled it to find out how many eu people have been working on this for how long and how much has been spent,cant find that out.Its all our money that is being wasted on crap like this.Alot of people are making a hell of a lot of money to bring in rules for us plebs.The meat industry have more than likely paid out a lot of backhanders through lobbyists to protect their industry and then pay for this racket to impose more rules it beats me that people cannot see they are being played by this big club.
It will be interesting to see if the UK reverse the regs when we leave... Or what we do with veggie burgers... Fairly sure the NFU weren't saying its a waste of time and effort... "
No they weren't but the vegetarian and vegan societies were in the commons committee yesterday thats what brought it to my attention. |
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"I don't particularly agree with the decision but the desperation to find stuff to blame the EU for is really, laughably pathetic.
Oh no, our quorn burgers won't be called burgers. Curse you EU, truly my life is ruined. "
Those bastards will never take our Linda McCartney veggie sausages .Or our Mo farah endorsed artificial meat that tastes like cardboard.
Never ! We're British goddamnit.Were leaving and were taking our sausages  |
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"I don't particularly agree with the decision but the desperation to find stuff to blame the EU for is really, laughably pathetic.
Oh no, our quorn burgers won't be called burgers. Curse you EU, truly my life is ruined. No mate not desperation i saw a debate on it very late last night so googled it to find out how many eu people have been working on this for how long and how much has been spent,cant find that out.Its all our money that is being wasted on crap like this.Alot of people are making a hell of a lot of money to bring in rules for us plebs.The meat industry have more than likely paid out a lot of backhanders through lobbyists to protect their industry and then pay for this racket to impose more rules it beats me that people cannot see they are being played by this big club. "
This is the type of minutiae law making that all governments make all the time.
Right now in the UK Parliament and civil service there will be work going on to deliver stuff that we could point and laugh at as being a bit silly and a waste of money.
And the UK government isn't influenced by lobbyists? Give me a break.
Imagining that this is somehow unique to the EU and not an inevitable function of capitalism is really naive and, as I say, just an excuse to have a pop at them. Be honest, if this was a UK government idea you'd not give a toss. |
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"I don't particularly agree with the decision but the desperation to find stuff to blame the EU for is really, laughably pathetic.
Oh no, our quorn burgers won't be called burgers. Curse you EU, truly my life is ruined.
Those bastards will never take our Linda McCartney veggie sausages .Or our Mo farah endorsed artificial meat that tastes like cardboard.
Never ! We're British goddamnit.Were leaving and were taking our sausages "
yer to right bob you tell em lol |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"A brussels committee had decreed that veggie burgers should be replaced by veggie discs and vegan sausages be replaced with vegan tubes with a host of other things like tofu steaks needed to be renamed on food labels.You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out. "
Some common sense from the EU pity they have nothing better to talk about.If this what we pay millions for them to talk about just another reason for us to leave,the EU is so pathetic
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"Here's a question.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Copycat products have to come up with another name.
It looks like the distilleries will soon be outside the EU.
Japan makes a lot of "whisky".
I wonder if, once Scotland no longer comes under EU geographic identity protection, will the Japanse be allowed to sell their product as whisky?
They just did a big trade deal with the EU.
Same goes for the rest of the UK products.
Anyone will be allowed to sell "yorkshire puddings" anywhere in the EU27 + 4, whether its made in Doncaster or Dubai.
I wonder what other geographic protections will disappear with Brexit.
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"Whisky" made anywhere in the world can and id sold everywhere including the EU, as "whiskey".
The product name you mean is "Scotch Whisky".
Am I allowed to make Welsh Rarebit or do I have to stick with boeing old cheese on toast? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
indeed.
Without an agreement with the EU, the protected geographic identity of UK products will not be recognised in the single market.
Which opens up a new market for other companies to copy and brand these products for sale in the single market.
UK exporters will also be at a disadvantage because of import duties on the real product.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Here's a question.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Copycat products have to come up with another name.
It looks like the distilleries will soon be outside the EU.
Japan makes a lot of "whisky".
I wonder if, once Scotland no longer comes under EU geographic identity protection, will the Japanse be allowed to sell their product as whisky?
They just did a big trade deal with the EU.
Same goes for the rest of the UK products.
Anyone will be allowed to sell "yorkshire puddings" anywhere in the EU27 + 4, whether its made in Doncaster or Dubai.
I wonder what other geographic protections will disappear with Brexit.
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actually... i am nerdy enough to know the answer to this...
the answer is that the EU will honour any geographic protections that are in place, but they will not give anymore out to uk producers....
taaaa daaaaaaa........... lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Cheddar cheese belongs to the village of Cheddar in Somerset where it was created first.This is probably the most famous and marketed cheese anywhere.Why the fuck can Americans and the Irish and Scottish and Welsh and any other fucker call their cheese cheddar...yes I know the term "west country farm house cheddar " is protected.Does that mean we call our sparkling wine (which is acknowledged as superior to champagne,)West Country champagne.
This actually bugs me.Being a West Country lad.
If brexit claims back cheddar for Somerset I'll convert to your cult.. |
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"A brussels committee had decreed that veggie burgers should be replaced by veggie discs and vegan sausages be replaced with vegan tubes with a host of other things like tofu steaks needed to be renamed on food labels.You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out. "
I know, terrible isn't it and to think it's going to be all them unelected bureaucrats we all voted for last month that's going to decide if this goes ahead and rule over us from some unnamed far flung continent.
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"Here's a question.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Copycat products have to come up with another name.
It looks like the distilleries will soon be outside the EU.
Japan makes a lot of "whisky".
I wonder if, once Scotland no longer comes under EU geographic identity protection, will the Japanse be allowed to sell their product as whisky?
They just did a big trade deal with the EU.
Same goes for the rest of the UK products.
Anyone will be allowed to sell "yorkshire puddings" anywhere in the EU27 + 4, whether its made in Doncaster or Dubai.
I wonder what other geographic protections will disappear with Brexit.
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Its "Scotch whisky" thats protected, not just whiskey as a whole. |
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I think this whole thread belongs in the same category as stories about bendy bananas, straight cucumbers, chocolate having to be called fatulate or vegulate, and the Euro Sausage scandal that only ever existed in "Yes Minister". It's a great story but that's all it will ever be, a story.
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"Cheddar cheese belongs to the village of Cheddar in Somerset where it was created first.This is probably the most famous and marketed cheese anywhere.Why the fuck can Americans and the Irish and Scottish and Welsh and any other fucker call their cheese cheddar...yes I know the term "west country farm house cheddar " is protected.Does that mean we call our sparkling wine (which is acknowledged as superior to champagne,)West Country champagne.
This actually bugs me.Being a West Country lad.
If brexit claims back cheddar for Somerset I'll convert to your cult.. "
At last you have seen the light |
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"Cheddar cheese belongs to the village of Cheddar in Somerset where it was created first.This is probably the most famous and marketed cheese anywhere.Why the fuck can Americans and the Irish and Scottish and Welsh and any other fucker call their cheese cheddar...yes I know the term "west country farm house cheddar " is protected.Does that mean we call our sparkling wine (which is acknowledged as superior to champagne,)West Country champagne.
This actually bugs me.Being a West Country lad.
If brexit claims back cheddar for Somerset I'll convert to your cult..
At last you have seen the light "
Would that be the light coming from the BBQ with only vegiedisks and vegietubes on the griddle? Wonder if the cheese for the vegiedicks is from West Somerset?
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"There are people out there who see "burger" and "sausage" and think they are buying a burger or a sausage.
Unfortunately, not everyone is as bright as you.
dont make me laugh. Its obviously a ploy by the meat industry who are worried about falling sales to veterinarians to make the food sound less palatable.I would have thought all the eco warriors would be up in arms about it.I dont think you need to be bright to understand a vegan sausage is vegan are you trying to tell me some would think its an animal?"
Veterinarians? 
Don't you mean vegitarians? |
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"Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU."
Think you've got things a little confused there.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be called 'Scotch'
If it's made anywhere else, it must be called 'Whisky' |
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"A brussels committee had decreed that veggie burgers should be replaced by veggie discs and vegan sausages be replaced with vegan tubes with a host of other things like tofu steaks needed to be renamed on food labels.You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out. Some common sense from the EU pity they have nothing better to talk about.If this what we pay millions for them to talk about just another reason for us to leave,the EU is so pathetic"
The history of the EU is littered with ridiculous stories like this unfortunately. These busy bodies in Brussels have nothing better to do with their time, all at huge unnecessary expense to the taxpayer. Newly elected Brexit party MEP Annunziata Rees Mogg recently visited the European Parliament for the first time, and decided to film the trip. She got on the train to Brussels, and upon arrival at Brussels train station where she met with Ann Widdecombe was greeted by a very expensive looking luxury chauffeur driven car, paid for by the taxpayer to drive her and Ann to the European Parliament. She was driven into an underground car park, which she said was the biggest car park she had ever seen, filled with BMW's, Volvo's and Mercedes Benz as far as the eye could see. They took the lift up and when they got out of the lift they were greeted by security who told her to stop filming. When she refused they escorted her out of the building. What are the EU trying to hide?
Ms Rees-Mogg added she was given a shiny new taypayer funded i-pad at the European Parliament for no apparent reason, and she never asked for one.
Ann Widdecombe added "Never ever complain again about UK MP's expenses because compered to what goes on here in Brussels, our MP's turn up in hair-shirts."
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Think you've got things a little confused there.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be called 'Scotch'
If it's made anywhere else, it must be called 'Whisky'"
I'm sure you are probably right.
I'll re-phrase it, then.
If the UK leaves the EU without an agreement that maintains geographic protection of products, you will be served any old shit the next time you go into a bar in the EU27 and ask for a "scotch".
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Think you've got things a little confused there.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be called 'Scotch'
If it's made anywhere else, it must be called 'Whisky'
I'm sure you are probably right.
I'll re-phrase it, then.
If the UK leaves the EU without an agreement that maintains geographic protection of products, you will be served any old shit the next time you go into a bar in the EU27 and ask for a "scotch".
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Plenty of good irish whisky |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Think you've got things a little confused there.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be called 'Scotch'
If it's made anywhere else, it must be called 'Whisky'
I'm sure you are probably right.
I'll re-phrase it, then.
If the UK leaves the EU without an agreement that maintains geographic protection of products, you will be served any old shit the next time you go into a bar in the EU27 and ask for a "scotch".
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Pretty sure by mid-day in the European Parliament bar, Jean Claude D*unker doesn't care what the staff serve him. |
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Another ridiculous "EU idea" for all EU member states to use 'Berlin time' is in tatters. The brain child of EU President Jean Claude Juncker to scrap seasonal clock changes has been left in ruins, after the European Council's legal service looked into it. The legal advice warns the changes could be deemed as an overreach of the Commissions powers, and be thrown out by the European Court of Justice judges eventually. So yet again another complete and utter waste of time and of taxpayers money comping up with hair brained ideas such as this only for the legal teams to rule it out in the end, what a joke!
www.express.co.uk/news/world/1141985/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-clock-change-European-Commission-Council-update |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"Another ridiculous "EU idea" for all EU member states to use 'Berlin time' is in tatters. The brain child of EU President Jean Claude Juncker to scrap seasonal clock changes has been left in ruins, after the European Council's legal service looked into it. The legal advice warns the changes could be deemed as an overreach of the Commissions powers, and be thrown out by the European Court of Justice judges eventually. So yet again another complete and utter waste of time and of taxpayers money comping up with hair brained ideas such as this only for the legal teams to rule it out in the end, what a joke!
www.express.co.uk/news/world/1141985/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-clock-change-European-Commission-Council-update"
Spain were debating about going back to gmt where they used to be before Franco took control and changed it so that he could be on the same time as hitler.The canaries still are and there was a debate going on about the health benifits as most spaniards are still eating their evening meals at 10-11pm.Saw this last year but not heard what the outcome was. |
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"Another ridiculous "EU idea" for all EU member states to use 'Berlin time' is in tatters. The brain child of EU President Jean Claude Juncker to scrap seasonal clock changes has been left in ruins, after the European Council's legal service looked into it. The legal advice warns the changes could be deemed as an overreach of the Commissions powers, and be thrown out by the European Court of Justice judges eventually. So yet again another complete and utter waste of time and of taxpayers money comping up with hair brained ideas such as this only for the legal teams to rule it out in the end, what a joke!
www.express.co.uk/news/world/1141985/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-clock-change-European-Commission-Council-updateSpain were debating about going back to gmt where they used to be before Franco took control and changed it so that he could be on the same time as hitler.The canaries still are and there was a debate going on about the health benifits as most spaniards are still eating their evening meals at 10-11pm.Saw this last year but not heard what the outcome was."
Last I heard they'd decided not to make the change. I like the light evenings and the dark mornings make no difference to me |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"Another ridiculous "EU idea" for all EU member states to use 'Berlin time' is in tatters. The brain child of EU President Jean Claude Juncker to scrap seasonal clock changes has been left in ruins, after the European Council's legal service looked into it. The legal advice warns the changes could be deemed as an overreach of the Commissions powers, and be thrown out by the European Court of Justice judges eventually. So yet again another complete and utter waste of time and of taxpayers money comping up with hair brained ideas such as this only for the legal teams to rule it out in the end, what a joke!
www.express.co.uk/news/world/1141985/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-clock-change-European-Commission-Council-updateSpain were debating about going back to gmt where they used to be before Franco took control and changed it so that he could be on the same time as hitler.The canaries still are and there was a debate going on about the health benifits as most spaniards are still eating their evening meals at 10-11pm.Saw this last year but not heard what the outcome was.
Last I heard they'd decided not to make the change. I like the light evenings and the dark mornings make no difference to me"
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"A brussels committee had decreed that veggie burgers should be replaced by veggie discs and vegan sausages be replaced with vegan tubes with a host of other things like tofu steaks needed to be renamed on food labels.You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out. "
I'm sure there was some lobbying by the meat industry. It's a rearguard action as younger generations eat less meat.
They are clued up enough not to care.
Such is politics.
We'll just get some inventive new marketing.
This actually bothers you though? |
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over a year ago
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"Another ridiculous "EU idea" for all EU member states to use 'Berlin time' is in tatters. The brain child of EU President Jean Claude Juncker to scrap seasonal clock changes has been left in ruins, after the European Council's legal service looked into it. The legal advice warns the changes could be deemed as an overreach of the Commissions powers, and be thrown out by the European Court of Justice judges eventually. So yet again another complete and utter waste of time and of taxpayers money comping up with hair brained ideas such as this only for the legal teams to rule it out in the end, what a joke!
www.express.co.uk/news/world/1141985/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-clock-change-European-Commission-Council-update"
Berlin time?, so in an attempt to make it sound a racial issue or the big bad Germans imposing rules on us you choose to use the term "Berlin time" which happens to be also "Paris Time", "Amsterdam time", Brussels Time", "Madrid time", "Vienna Time", "Rome Time", "Warsaw Time", "Zagreb Time".......
Secondly there is an online poll for everyone to participate in if they so wish to do so including you.
MEPs voted 410 to 192 in favour of ending the practice of changing the clocks forward in spring and back in autumn from 2021. You know, them unelected bureaucrats you elected last month voted for it overwhelmingly.
The council - which is made up by the leaders of each member state which you've had the opportunity to vote for the UK Government - will have to vote unanimously for the change anyway.
So instead of just taking the Express rag papers twisted spin as gospel how about you try and educate yourself on the facts before copying and pasting rubbish half twisted truths  |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"A brussels committee had decreed that veggie burgers should be replaced by veggie discs and vegan sausages be replaced with vegan tubes with a host of other things like tofu steaks needed to be renamed on food labels.You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out.
I'm sure there was some lobbying by the meat industry. It's a rearguard action as younger generations eat less meat.
They are clued up enough not to care.
Such is politics.
We'll just get some inventive new marketing.
This actually bothers you though?"
It bothers me how much time and money has been wasted yes, for what? because they think we are to thick to know the difference but they have to justify being paid in the first place,we do not need these people. |
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over a year ago
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"Cheddar cheese belongs to the village of Cheddar in Somerset where it was created first.This is probably the most famous and marketed cheese anywhere.Why the fuck can Americans and the Irish and Scottish and Welsh and any other fucker call their cheese cheddar...yes I know the term "west country farm house cheddar " is protected.Does that mean we call our sparkling wine (which is acknowledged as superior to champagne,)West Country champagne.
This actually bugs me.Being a West Country lad.
If brexit claims back cheddar for Somerset I'll convert to your cult..
At last you have seen the light "
Yes I have dude and I'm glad you recognise brexit as a cult ... |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"I think this whole thread belongs in the same category as stories about bendy bananas, straight cucumbers, chocolate having to be called fatulate or vegulate, and the Euro Sausage scandal that only ever existed in "Yes Minister". It's a great story but that's all it will ever be, a story.
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And do you know who fabricated the story about the bananas?
The Brussels correspondent of the Telegraph in the 1990s.
One Boris de pfeffel Johnson.
The same person who has been sacked three times for dishonesty.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Another ridiculous "EU idea" for all EU member states to use 'Berlin time' is in tatters. The brain child of EU President Jean Claude Juncker to scrap seasonal clock changes has been left in ruins, after the European Council's legal service looked into it. The legal advice warns the changes could be deemed as an overreach of the Commissions powers, and be thrown out by the European Court of Justice judges eventually. So yet again another complete and utter waste of time and of taxpayers money comping up with hair brained ideas such as this only for the legal teams to rule it out in the end, what a joke!
www.express.co.uk/news/world/1141985/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-clock-change-European-Commission-Council-update"
Alternative way of reading.
Juncker can't make laws unilaterally.
There is a limit to the commissions powers.
There are processes in place to prevent over reach.
Juncker, in this case, didn't do the IA. And wasted time.
So the story is Juncker didn't produce the impact assessments he should have done. Don't think he's the only person to have done that eh? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"A brussels committee had decreed that veggie burgers should be replaced by veggie discs and vegan sausages be replaced with vegan tubes with a host of other things like tofu steaks needed to be renamed on food labels.You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out.
I'm sure there was some lobbying by the meat industry. It's a rearguard action as younger generations eat less meat.
They are clued up enough not to care.
Such is politics.
We'll just get some inventive new marketing.
This actually bothers you though?It bothers me how much time and money has been wasted yes, for what? because they think we are to thick to know the difference but they have to justify being paid in the first place,we do not need these people."
Have you read the legislation or the reasons behind it?
I haven't. I'm not going to get irate about a minor topic for which I am not willing to get the full facts over, but you seem to be. You've made assumptions about why the decision was made bit don't actually know do you?
Legislation is made in the same way that it is here. The vegetarian food industry would have put its case and apparently failed to do so well enough.
The EU itself wouldn't have come up with this, the meat industry will have done.
You should really stop eating meat in protest rather than raging at the system which has granted their request. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Another ridiculous "EU idea" for all EU member states to use 'Berlin time' is in tatters. The brain child of EU President Jean Claude Juncker to scrap seasonal clock changes has been left in ruins, after the European Council's legal service looked into it. The legal advice warns the changes could be deemed as an overreach of the Commissions powers, and be thrown out by the European Court of Justice judges eventually. So yet again another complete and utter waste of time and of taxpayers money comping up with hair brained ideas such as this only for the legal teams to rule it out in the end, what a joke!
www.express.co.uk/news/world/1141985/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-clock-change-European-Commission-Council-update"
So you are saying that the legislative process has worked as intended.
An impractical proposal has not been brought into law.
Unlike the dangerous dogs act or any number of other headline generated knee-jerk laws guillotined through without proper scrutiny in the UK. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"There are people out there who see "burger" and "sausage" and think they are buying a burger or a sausage.
Unfortunately, not everyone is as bright as you.
dont make me laugh. Its obviously a ploy by the meat industry who are worried about falling sales to veterinarians to make the food sound less palatable.I would have thought all the eco warriors would be up in arms about it.I dont think you need to be bright to understand a vegan sausage is vegan are you trying to tell me some would think its an animal?"
On further reading, the proposal is being challenged.
It was based on the principle raised in the 2017 case of calling non-dairy juices "milk" which does cause genuine confusion on the basis of what nutrients are or are not contained in them.
We'll see how it pans out. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"A brussels committee had decreed that veggie burgers should be replaced by veggie discs and vegan sausages be replaced with vegan tubes with a host of other things like tofu steaks needed to be renamed on food labels.You couldn't make it up, do these people think that the people are so stupid we cannot tell the difference? i bet that gave them a nice little earner for a few years coming up with that one and people ask why the country wants out. Some common sense from the EU pity they have nothing better to talk about.If this what we pay millions for them to talk about just another reason for us to leave,the EU is so pathetic
The history of the EU is littered with ridiculous stories like this unfortunately. These busy bodies in Brussels have nothing better to do with their time, all at huge unnecessary expense to the taxpayer. Newly elected Brexit party MEP Annunziata Rees Mogg recently visited the European Parliament for the first time, and decided to film the trip. She got on the train to Brussels, and upon arrival at Brussels train station where she met with Ann Widdecombe was greeted by a very expensive looking luxury chauffeur driven car, paid for by the taxpayer to drive her and Ann to the European Parliament. She was driven into an underground car park, which she said was the biggest car park she had ever seen, filled with BMW's, Volvo's and Mercedes Benz as far as the eye could see. They took the lift up and when they got out of the lift they were greeted by security who told her to stop filming. When she refused they escorted her out of the building. What are the EU trying to hide?
Ms Rees-Mogg added she was given a shiny new taypayer funded i-pad at the European Parliament for no apparent reason, and she never asked for one.
Ann Widdecombe added "Never ever complain again about UK MP's expenses because compered to what goes on here in Brussels, our MP's turn up in hair-shirts."
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The UK government has a fleet of very expensive luxury cars which they don't like being filmed in storage.
I got a shiny new laptop and phone when I started my new job that I didn't even ask for.
It might have been something to do with IT security bit they probably just wanted to spend money for no reason  |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Cheddar cheese belongs to the village of Cheddar in Somerset where it was created first.This is probably the most famous and marketed cheese anywhere.Why the fuck can Americans and the Irish and Scottish and Welsh and any other fucker call their cheese cheddar...yes I know the term "west country farm house cheddar " is protected.Does that mean we call our sparkling wine (which is acknowledged as superior to champagne,)West Country champagne.
This actually bugs me.Being a West Country lad.
If brexit claims back cheddar for Somerset I'll convert to your cult.. "
I suspect that if Cheddar went through the process of trying the name to the specific area they could get it to stick.
Somehow I don't think that the UK or West Country cheese industry as a whole would go for it though... |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
I always thought burger was just the generic name for the patty just as sausage was the generic name for the tube.
You can buy chicken burgers/sausages, turkey burgers, fish burgers etc
Would these need to be renamed seeing as how an omnivore would assume a burger contains beef and a sausage is pork??? |
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over a year ago
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"At least we will still be able to buy/sell/consume veggie burgers when we leave the EU. Their ability to meddle with us will be gone."
Thing is, whoever lobbied the EU for things like this can just as easily lobby our own Government if they so wish.
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"At least we will still be able to buy/sell/consume veggie burgers when we leave the EU. Their ability to meddle with us will be gone."
Not if we want to sell our vegie disks, tubes, burgers, sausages or whatever you call them into the EU. The only thing leaving will have done is remove our ability to stop the change. Take back control. LOL. More like give up control.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Here's a question.
Only whisky made in Scotland can be sold as "whisky" in the EU.
Copycat products have to come up with another name.
It looks like the distilleries will soon be outside the EU.
Japan makes a lot of "whisky".
I wonder if, once Scotland no longer comes under EU geographic identity protection, will the Japanse be allowed to sell their product as whisky?
They just did a big trade deal with the EU.
Same goes for the rest of the UK products.
Anyone will be allowed to sell "yorkshire puddings" anywhere in the EU27 + 4, whether its made in Doncaster or Dubai.
I wonder what other geographic protections will disappear with Brexit."
Irish whiskey didn't have to come up with another name. |
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"At least we will still be able to buy/sell/consume veggie burgers when we leave the EU. Their ability to meddle with us will be gone.
Not if we want to sell our vegie disks, tubes, burgers, sausages or whatever you call them into the EU. The only thing leaving will have done is remove our ability to stop the change. Take back control. LOL. More like give up control.
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So they would be repackaged for the EU market, but not for our own and those of the other nations we sell them to.
It’s a bit like the rules against calling sparkling wine Methode Champagnoir, the EU said no and we had to comply. Even though the sparkling wine was made to Madam Clicquot’s precise specification. In the US they have their own Champagne houses, the likes of French owned Moët et Chandon produce champagne in the US. But because we are currently in the EU, we are only allowed to buy champagne that was made in one specific region of France.
There are hundreds of examples of EU nations putting these restrictions on us as well as other member states. Though I cannot think of one thing of ours that was ever afforded such protection.
Anyway it no longer matters, because we are LEAVING! LOLOL!! |
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"At least we will still be able to buy/sell/consume veggie burgers when we leave the EU. Their ability to meddle with us will be gone.
Not if we want to sell our vegie disks, tubes, burgers, sausages or whatever you call them into the EU. The only thing leaving will have done is remove our ability to stop the change. Take back control. LOL. More like give up control.
So they would be repackaged for the EU market, but not for our own and those of the other nations we sell them to.
It’s a bit like the rules against calling sparkling wine Methode Champagnoir, the EU said no and we had to comply. Even though the sparkling wine was made to Madam Clicquot’s precise specification. In the US they have their own Champagne houses, the likes of French owned Moët et Chandon produce champagne in the US. But because we are currently in the EU, we are only allowed to buy champagne that was made in one specific region of France.
There are hundreds of examples of EU nations putting these restrictions on us as well as other member states. Though I cannot think of one thing of ours that was ever afforded such protection.
Anyway it no longer matters, because we are LEAVING! LOLOL!! "
Loads of UK products that benefit from protective status also. Look it up.
Cheddar, stilton and Caerphilly just 3 UK protected cheeses amongst a number of others. |
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"At least we will still be able to buy/sell/consume veggie burgers when we leave the EU. Their ability to meddle with us will be gone.
Not if we want to sell our vegie disks, tubes, burgers, sausages or whatever you call them into the EU. The only thing leaving will have done is remove our ability to stop the change. Take back control. LOL. More like give up control.
So they would be repackaged for the EU market, but not for our own and those of the other nations we sell them to.
It’s a bit like the rules against calling sparkling wine Methode Champagnoir, the EU said no and we had to comply. Even though the sparkling wine was made to Madam Clicquot’s precise specification. In the US they have their own Champagne houses, the likes of French owned Moët et Chandon produce champagne in the US. But because we are currently in the EU, we are only allowed to buy champagne that was made in one specific region of France.
There are hundreds of examples of EU nations putting these restrictions on us as well as other member states. Though I cannot think of one thing of ours that was ever afforded such protection.
Anyway it no longer matters, because we are LEAVING! LOLOL!! "
Theres 65 UK foods with protection. I'm sure you've heard of some... |
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In the US they have their own Champagne houses, the likes of French owned Moët et Chandon produce champagne in the US. But because we are currently in the EU, we are only allowed to buy champagne that was made in one specific region of France.
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Since 2005 it is illegal for sparkling wine made in USA to be called Champagne |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"At least we will still be able to buy/sell/consume veggie burgers when we leave the EU. Their ability to meddle with us will be gone.
Not if we want to sell our vegie disks, tubes, burgers, sausages or whatever you call them into the EU. The only thing leaving will have done is remove our ability to stop the change. Take back control. LOL. More like give up control.
So they would be repackaged for the EU market, but not for our own and those of the other nations we sell them to.
It’s a bit like the rules against calling sparkling wine Methode Champagnoir, the EU said no and we had to comply. Even though the sparkling wine was made to Madam Clicquot’s precise specification. In the US they have their own Champagne houses, the likes of French owned Moët et Chandon produce champagne in the US. But because we are currently in the EU, we are only allowed to buy champagne that was made in one specific region of France.
There are hundreds of examples of EU nations putting these restrictions on us as well as other member states. Though I cannot think of one thing of ours that was ever afforded such protection.
Anyway it no longer matters, because we are LEAVING! LOLOL!! "
Champagne comes from a region called Champagne.
It's no different to a trade mark. There is value invested in the brand and history that someone else does not have the right to freeload on.
You can make a vacuum cleaner but you can't call it a Hoover.
No different.
Not sure what your whining about. |
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