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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Can't imagine any Tory MP wanting to ambush their next leader before he or she has even set out their stall.
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seems that 8 labour mps voted against it and 13 abstained bet old corbyn has the right hump.  |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"If we are looking at a no deal in the last few days before the end of Oct then it may well be a question Parliament will ask again and the numbers won't be the same.. "
i thought bercow said you cant bring the same motion back.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
" i thought bercow said you cant bring the same motion back."
No need.
The Government still has a pile of legislation and regulation it needs to put in place before October 31 if it wants to avoid a legal mess on November 1.
Plenty of opportunities to amend. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Right result imo. Parliament needs to start sating what it wants and not what it doesn't want.
Quite possibly will put the Willie's up the future PM as the margin was close and I can see it swinging if more fall out of no deal comes out as it becomes more real (NI report suggesting issues)
And they wouldnt want to see a Mayesque revolt in the first few months. No no deal is still a possibility... |
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"If we are looking at a no deal in the last few days before the end of Oct then it may well be a question Parliament will ask again and the numbers won't be the same.. i thought bercow said you cant bring the same motion back."
Bercow is staying in place to make sure any new Pm doesn't put a patsy on the seat so if there is a new motion I think it will be worded in such a way that it is put before the house.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"votes when you have a hung parliament are always close. "
this is a cross party issue where ppl aren't voting along party lines... Same as May's deal etc
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I suspect that a number of MP's have changed their stance on no deal, since the last bill aimed at preventing it went through, because of the outcome of the local council and EU elections.
Clearly Keir Starmer and Corbyn didn't get the memo |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"votes when you have a hung parliament are always close. "
the problem the next pm will face is that if they try to force no deal thru parliament without them having the final say on that, the ultimate card the other side have is the vote of no confidence...
and there are enough tory mps who will vote with that to bring their own side down....
this is nice... but not a gamechanger! in fact to be honest if labour had won today it would have been easier for a tory pm to kick the can down the road and blame labour.....
this way a General Election becomes way more realistic.... |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"votes when you have a hung parliament are always close.
the problem the next pm will face is that if they try to force no deal thru parliament without them having the final say on that, the ultimate card the other side have is the vote of no confidence...
and there are enough tory mps who will vote with that to bring their own side down....
this is nice... but not a gamechanger! in fact to be honest if labour had won today it would have been easier for a tory pm to kick the can down the road and blame labour.....
this way a General Election becomes way more realistic.... "
how did the last vote of no confidence go _abio. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"votes when you have a hung parliament are always close.
the problem the next pm will face is that if they try to force no deal thru parliament without them having the final say on that, the ultimate card the other side have is the vote of no confidence...
and there are enough tory mps who will vote with that to bring their own side down....
this is nice... but not a gamechanger! in fact to be honest if labour had won today it would have been easier for a tory pm to kick the can down the road and blame labour.....
this way a General Election becomes way more realistic.... how did the last vote of no confidence go _abio. "
I think being in power is the number 1 priority for Tory MP's than anything else. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons."
Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider . |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"votes when you have a hung parliament are always close.
the problem the next pm will face is that if they try to force no deal thru parliament without them having the final say on that, the ultimate card the other side have is the vote of no confidence...
and there are enough tory mps who will vote with that to bring their own side down....
this is nice... but not a gamechanger! in fact to be honest if labour had won today it would have been easier for a tory pm to kick the can down the road and blame labour.....
this way a General Election becomes way more realistic.... "
Wrong as the DUP will back Boris therefore no general election |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider . "
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
" Wrong as the DUP will back Boris therefore no general election"
even with the DUP, your overall majority is 5..... lets start there
do you think 1 opposition MP would vote with the government to keep them in power... would you be want to be known as "that mp"....nope...
so lets assume none will flip...
now... dominic grieve and Richard Herrington are both on the record as saying they would vote with a no confidence motion if it meant stopping a no deal brexit.... they would both put "country before party"....
so now we are looking for one more tory mp.... just one!
you don't think a kenneth clarke, or a justine greening, or a sam gyniah, or an antoinette sandbach, or even a Jo Johnson (remember he resigned from the government over brexit policy and pandering to the ERG... oh the irony) who are all on the record as being against a no deal brexit that not one of them would vote against in a no confidence motion... heck 10 tories today voted with the cross-party motion against the government whip!
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too. "
you really think any labour mp is going to vote for this government in a "no confidence" motion...
is so... just name one....... |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
"quicker we get out the better stop fucking about and get out they will come crawling to us to sell there shit goods "
And that there is why exactly we are in the place that we are.
Oh Lorrrdy lord |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... "
Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum. |
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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago
pontefract |
"sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too. "
Totally agree did you see The labour front benches faces when the vote went against them it was a-picture pmsl |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too. "
Great analysis of the situation there Costa. The fact is now after the Brexit party destroyed the Labour vote in the Labour heartlands of the Midlands, the North and Wales during the European elections many Labour MP's will be fearing for their seats if they are seen to be blocking Brexit now.
A few Labour MP's such as Kate Hoey and Graham Stringer actively want no deal, as they joined and campaigned for the Leave means Leave pressure group which advocated a no deal Brexit. Its Labour people like Kate Hoey and Graham Stringer who will cancel out the Tory remain zealots in Parliament like Dominic Grieve and Oliver Letwin.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too.
you really think any labour mp is going to vote for this government in a "no confidence" motion...
is so... just name one......."
I'll do better than that Fabio, i'll name 2. Kate Hoey and Graham Stringer would support the government to get a no deal Brexit through Parlaiment. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum. "
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too.
Great analysis of the situation there Costa. The fact is now after the Brexit party destroyed the Labour vote in the Labour heartlands of the Midlands, the North and Wales during the European elections many Labour MP's will be fearing for their seats if they are seen to be blocking Brexit now.
A few Labour MP's such as Kate Hoey and Graham Stringer actively want no deal, as they joined and campaigned for the Leave means Leave pressure group which advocated a no deal Brexit. Its Labour people like Kate Hoey and Graham Stringer who will cancel out the Tory remain zealots in Parliament like Dominic Grieve and Oliver Letwin.
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More votes went to the remain parties from Labour in both local and European elections than to the Brexit party.
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too.
you really think any labour mp is going to vote for this government in a "no confidence" motion...
is so... just name one......."
Didn't Tom Watson, amongst others vote with the Government in the last one?
There are a few Bliairites about who would rather see a continuation of a Tory government than a Labour one under Corbyn. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time."
Luckily I do not have to rely on an internet forum for my news. I prefer to get up early, go to the newsagents, meet real people and put some money back into the economy.
When I first saw the comment I thought I had made a serious error.
Having read the front page on today's times I now have accurate information.
It looks like some posters on here are bad losers.
A win is a win regardless of how you present it.
It is just as well that this is an internet forum.
At least anything published in the press is subject to regulation. Keyboard warriors can knock out and publish anything.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time."
Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .? |
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"sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too.
you really think any labour mp is going to vote for this government in a "no confidence" motion...
is so... just name one.......
Didn't Tom Watson, amongst others vote with the Government in the last one?
There are a few Bliairites about who would rather see a continuation of a Tory government than a Labour one under Corbyn."
In the No Confidence vote in January, Watson did not vote with the government. In fact he wound up the debate for Labour |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .? "
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons."
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting. |
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting."
It's part of the go to lexicon of the brextremists.....it appeals to the hard of thinking |
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"Bercow won't allow no dealVery true but the new leader has to find a way round this.
It is good to here the EU want to talk to Boris to organise no deal ASAP"
Did this get found on another thread, an EU Bulletin, or quite where? No deal isn't in the UK or EU's best interests. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"sorry _abio your logic does not add up the labour party are as split as the tories.The public have had enough of corbyns wrecking tactics and many of his mps can see the writing on the wall if they go along with him specially in strong leave constituency's they know their jobs will be on the line if they do not get brexit done before an election too.
you really think any labour mp is going to vote for this government in a "no confidence" motion...
is so... just name one.......
I'll do better than that Fabio, i'll name 2. Kate Hoey and Graham Stringer would support the government to get a no deal Brexit through Parlaiment. "
if there is another no confidence motion... I will absolutely take that bet!...
what would you like to wager on it centy? |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
got a funny feeling you gona see a few tories deselected between now and october.if boris wins by the margin everyone thinks he will i can see a purge of the likes of hammond and clarke coming.if they turn out to be that out of touch with there members there days are numbered. sure i read somewhere that in the last 6 months tory membership has gone up with peeps who want out joining up for the exact reason of gettin rid of remainers.personally i dont vote so for me i find it hysterically funny watching labour and the tories stumbling from one fuck up to another.everyone says we need to fix politics well to fix something it needs to be properly broken first and watching the main partys i dont think there is to long to wait.reackon most tories and some labour will head toward tbp and the rest of labour will go lib dem and green.labour and the tories will just be left with there diehards |
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over a year ago
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"got a funny feeling you gona see a few tories deselected between now and october.if boris wins by the margin everyone thinks he will i can see a purge of the likes of hammond and clarke coming.if they turn out to be that out of touch with there members there days are numbered. sure i read somewhere that in the last 6 months tory membership has gone up with peeps who want out joining up for the exact reason of gettin rid of remainers.personally i dont vote so for me i find it hysterically funny watching labour and the tories stumbling from one fuck up to another.everyone says we need to fix politics well to fix something it needs to be properly broken first and watching the main partys i dont think there is to long to wait.reackon most tories and some labour will head toward tbp and the rest of labour will go lib dem and green.labour and the tories will just be left with there diehards"
Try reading that out loud and see if you run out of breath. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting."
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"got a funny feeling you gona see a few tories deselected between now and october.if boris wins by the margin everyone thinks he will i can see a purge of the likes of hammond and clarke coming.if they turn out to be that out of touch with there members there days are numbered. sure i read somewhere that in the last 6 months tory membership has gone up with peeps who want out joining up for the exact reason of gettin rid of remainers.personally i dont vote so for me i find it hysterically funny watching labour and the tories stumbling from one fuck up to another.everyone says we need to fix politics well to fix something it needs to be properly broken first and watching the main partys i dont think there is to long to wait.reackon most tories and some labour will head toward tbp and the rest of labour will go lib dem and green.labour and the tories will just be left with there diehards"
the simple answer to that is "yes"...
there was a campaign for ex ukip members to join the conservatives so they will get a chance to do exactly what is happening.... the chance to choose the next leader and make sure it is one that pushes towards to "no deal" hard brexit....
and it doesn't matter is local conservative parties deselect mp's... recalls can only be done if they have done something wrong... and they will still be there if/when the no confidence motion comes around...
in fact if BoJo does become pm i think a few mp's will defect.... either resign the whip and sit independently, of go to the lib dems..... |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting."
My understanding of the word thwart is to stop someone doing what they want, in this case a no deal brexit i have no idea what your understanding is but suggest you look it up in the oxford English dictionary.If i had wanted to use the word betrayal or humiliation i would have but glad that you see it for what it was. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"got a funny feeling you gona see a few tories deselected between now and october.if boris wins by the margin everyone thinks he will i can see a purge of the likes of hammond and clarke coming.if they turn out to be that out of touch with there members there days are numbered. sure i read somewhere that in the last 6 months tory membership has gone up with peeps who want out joining up for the exact reason of gettin rid of remainers.personally i dont vote so for me i find it hysterically funny watching labour and the tories stumbling from one fuck up to another.everyone says we need to fix politics well to fix something it needs to be properly broken first and watching the main partys i dont think there is to long to wait.reackon most tories and some labour will head toward tbp and the rest of labour will go lib dem and green.labour and the tories will just be left with there diehards
the simple answer to that is "yes"...
there was a campaign for ex ukip members to join the conservatives so they will get a chance to do exactly what is happening.... the chance to choose the next leader and make sure it is one that pushes towards to "no deal" hard brexit....
and it doesn't matter is local conservative parties deselect mp's... recalls can only be done if they have done something wrong... and they will still be there if/when the no confidence motion comes around...
in fact if BoJo does become pm i think a few mp's will defect.... either resign the whip and sit independently, of go to the lib dems....."
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.My understanding of the word thwart is to stop someone doing what they want, in this case a no deal brexit i have no idea what your understanding is but suggest you look it up in the oxford English dictionary.If i had wanted to use the word betrayal or humiliation i would have but glad that you see it for what it was. "
How helpful.
Silly though.
It's an archaic word being used because it is more emotive and likely to induce outrage.
Did you ever use it before in regular conversation?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?
It's normal to choose vocabulary to suit the audience and the message. I'm not sure why you would want to pretend otherwise.
Either you are not conscious that you are doing it, or you are being deliberately evasive in acknowledging what you are doing.
Words are important.
Now lecture me about looking up meanings in the Oxford English Dictionary again. |
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors..."
The last word has to apply to the Erg / Dup then..
Unless your trying badly to rewrite history.. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors..."
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"got a funny feeling you gona see a few tories deselected between now and october.if boris wins by the margin everyone thinks he will i can see a purge of the likes of hammond and clarke coming.if they turn out to be that out of touch with there members there days are numbered. sure i read somewhere that in the last 6 months tory membership has gone up with peeps who want out joining up for the exact reason of gettin rid of remainers.personally i dont vote so for me i find it hysterically funny watching labour and the tories stumbling from one fuck up to another.everyone says we need to fix politics well to fix something it needs to be properly broken first and watching the main partys i dont think there is to long to wait.reackon most tories and some labour will head toward tbp and the rest of labour will go lib dem and green.labour and the tories will just be left with there diehards
the simple answer to that is "yes"...
there was a campaign for ex ukip members to join the conservatives so they will get a chance to do exactly what is happening.... the chance to choose the next leader and make sure it is one that pushes towards to "no deal" hard brexit....
and it doesn't matter is local conservative parties deselect mp's... recalls can only be done if they have done something wrong... and they will still be there if/when the no confidence motion comes around...
in fact if BoJo does become pm i think a few mp's will defect.... either resign the whip and sit independently, of go to the lib dems.....
i reakon threatening to bring down there own goverment might be seen as doing something wrong "
not in terms of legal wrong doings... which is what the recall process is about...
which is why you have only had 2 so far and 1 more maybe coming...
Ian paisley jr in relation to not declaring gifts and income, the woman in peterborough perverting the course of justice...
and the next one that may be coming which is the tory mp Chris Davies who pled guilty to a couple of cases of fraud in relations on expenses... (that result is due on friday!)
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over a year ago
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though "
Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public. |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?"
Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards? |
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over a year ago
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Many people use words / phrases that are printed in newspapers or on the headline news when basically regurgitating on here what they've previously read but would not use the same in everyday language.
You can spot a headline addict / junkie a mile off
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards? "
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public. "
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake 
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat  |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards?
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?"
Well mate we have never met and so i would not presume what language you use but im bigger than that so i apologize for using a word that upsets your sensative soul.I will give my next post more care and attention. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards?
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?Well mate we have never met and so i would not presume what language you use but im bigger than that so i apologize for using a word that upsets your sensative soul.I will give my next post more care and attention. "
Shall we go through it again?
I'm not offended, upset nor am I disputing the definition of the word "thwart".
I haven't asked for an apology.
Is that clear enough?
Are you able to say if you use the word "thwart" in normal conversation? Does anybody that you know use it?
Are you able to explain why you chose to use the word "thwart" instead of "oppose" which would be more normal and less emotive.
They are a simple enough questions really. I'm interested to know if you think about the words you use or why you use them. That was the point of the comment.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards?
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?Well mate we have never met and so i would not presume what language you use but im bigger than that so i apologize for using a word that upsets your sensative soul.I will give my next post more care and attention.
Shall we go through it again?
I'm not offended, upset nor am I disputing the definition of the word "thwart".
I haven't asked for an apology.
Is that clear enough?
Are you able to say if you use the word "thwart" in normal conversation? Does anybody that you know use it?
Are you able to explain why you chose to use the word "thwart" instead of "oppose" which would be more normal and less emotive.
They are a simple enough questions really. I'm interested to know if you think about the words you use or why you use them. That was the point of the comment.
Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't. No information yet."
As i said i will give more consideration to the words i use in future so as not to offend personally i just write on these forums what i am thinking.As for the word thwart no i cant tell you how many times ive used it in a conversation no more than i could tell you how many times ive used oppose or any any other words.I really dont think its the word that offended it was the fact the vote didnt go the way you wanted it to so had to retaliate in the only way you could its nothing new on here detracting from the op. |
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?"
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"I can honestly say I've never thwarted anyone or used the word in conversation.
The word reminds me of something a superhero like Batman might use.
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"I can honestly say I've never thwarted anyone or used the word in conversation.
The word reminds me of something a superhero like Batman might use.
never been likened to a super hero before cheers bob made my day. "
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
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well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
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Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury..."
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards?
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?Well mate we have never met and so i would not presume what language you use but im bigger than that so i apologize for using a word that upsets your sensative soul.I will give my next post more care and attention.
Shall we go through it again?
I'm not offended, upset nor am I disputing the definition of the word "thwart".
I haven't asked for an apology.
Is that clear enough?
Are you able to say if you use the word "thwart" in normal conversation? Does anybody that you know use it?
Are you able to explain why you chose to use the word "thwart" instead of "oppose" which would be more normal and less emotive.
They are a simple enough questions really. I'm interested to know if you think about the words you use or why you use them. That was the point of the comment.
Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't. No information yet.As i said i will give more consideration to the words i use in future so as not to offend personally i just write on these forums what i am thinking.As for the word thwart no i cant tell you how many times ive used it in a conversation no more than i could tell you how many times ive used oppose or any any other words.I really dont think its the word that offended it was the fact the vote didnt go the way you wanted it to so had to retaliate in the only way you could its nothing new on here detracting from the op."
I'm not offended. You still haven't quite got that it seems.
That's the third time that I've informed you of that.
You thought "thwart" did you?
As one poster pointed out, you are regurgitating a headline and don't even realise it. The words used in the headline was intended to illicit a specific emotional response in you, the leaver not me, the remainer.
It works.
In fact, your OP is incorrect. There was no vote to "thwart" Brexit.
The vote which was defeated was to take control of Parliamentary business with a declared intention of preventing a future Prime minister from not walking away without a negotiated settlement. This does not prevent the UK from leaving the EU does it?
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set.. "
WOW! - Racist, fascist, I guess the last piece of drivel is an accusation of Nazi? Oh and refuse to step up. That would mean that you think I wouldn’t?
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards?
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?Well mate we have never met and so i would not presume what language you use but im bigger than that so i apologize for using a word that upsets your sensative soul.I will give my next post more care and attention.
Shall we go through it again?
I'm not offended, upset nor am I disputing the definition of the word "thwart".
I haven't asked for an apology.
Is that clear enough?
Are you able to say if you use the word "thwart" in normal conversation? Does anybody that you know use it?
Are you able to explain why you chose to use the word "thwart" instead of "oppose" which would be more normal and less emotive.
They are a simple enough questions really. I'm interested to know if you think about the words you use or why you use them. That was the point of the comment.
Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't. No information yet.As i said i will give more consideration to the words i use in future so as not to offend personally i just write on these forums what i am thinking.As for the word thwart no i cant tell you how many times ive used it in a conversation no more than i could tell you how many times ive used oppose or any any other words.I really dont think its the word that offended it was the fact the vote didnt go the way you wanted it to so had to retaliate in the only way you could its nothing new on here detracting from the op.
I'm not offended. You still haven't quite got that it seems.
That's the third time that I've informed you of that.
You thought "thwart" did you?
As one poster pointed out, you are regurgitating a headline and don't even realise it. The words used in the headline was intended to illicit a specific emotional response in you, the leaver not me, the remainer.
It works.
In fact, your OP is incorrect. There was no vote to "thwart" Brexit.
The vote which was defeated was to take control of Parliamentary business with a declared intention of preventing a future Prime minister from not walking away without a negotiated settlement. This does not prevent the UK from leaving the EU does it?
The vote was to prevent a specific form of Brexit taking place wasn't it?"
Im impressed that you know me so well from my posts on here and what i think and how i communicate you,re not my ex wife in disguise by any chance? .I know what the vote was about and yes that is exactly why we are still in the Eu because the remainers took control along with their mate bercow to stop the uk leaving.so yes the vote was to thwart brexit,ohh sorry to oppose brexit. |
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set..
WOW! - Racist, fascist, I guess the last piece of drivel is an accusation of Nazi? Oh and refuse to step up. That would mean that you think I wouldn’t?
You haven’t got a clue what my mindset is, so quit with your stupid accusations. "
well ironically if the cap fits etc, you talk about stringing people up because they voted differently to you so what other conclusion should someone take from such nonsense?
is it a rational viewpoint to come to, is it something you sit down with your parents,children etc and say 'well i would tie a rope around a lamp post and hang him or her from it as they voted to remain so they are traitors'?
on your 'mindset' you've spoken about machine gunning people trying to cross the channel previously, about lacing up your boots to march to parliament, kicking heads in..
you come a cross on here as someone with hate oozing from every pore, for Europeans in general, the French, the Germans, immigrants etc..
what has caused this hatred?
so yes it is the thinking of the fascist and in fact the extremists murderers of the IS who cut aid workers heads off..
whatever you may call it, it isn't rational or normal.. |
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over a year ago
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set.. "
Funny you mention "imbecilic cowards who beat old men" for a moment there i thought you were referring to the Far left cowardly hate mob of Antifa, who beat an old man Trump supporter to the ground in London just the other week when President Trump came here to commemorate the D-Day celebrations (don't try to deny it as it was broadcast all over the news and i can post a link to Youtube of the footage). Or maybe you were referring to the cowardly remainer who attacked an 81 year old war veteran with a milkshake outside of a polling station in Aldershot on European MEP election day simply because he had the audacity to wear a Brexit party rosette, or is your faux outrage put away in its box when events such as those above happen? |
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set..
Funny you mention "imbecilic cowards who beat old men" for a moment there i thought you were referring to the Far left cowardly hate mob of Antifa, who beat an old man Trump supporter to the ground in London just the other week when President Trump came here to commemorate the D-Day celebrations (don't try to deny it as it was broadcast all over the news and i can post a link to Youtube of the footage). Or maybe you were referring to the cowardly remainer who attacked an 81 year old war veteran with a milkshake outside of a polling station in Aldershot on European MEP election day simply because he had the audacity to wear a Brexit party rosette, or is your faux outrage put away in its box when events such as those above happen? "
Centy, I've said on here to you before what my thoughts are on such things regardless of whom etc so your ironic whataboutery whilst predictable is not necessary..
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
"
So 48% of the population are "traitors"?
You cannot be a "traitor" to a referendum. In fact, it's perfectly reasonable to hold the opposite position and oppose the result because you believe it will do harm to our country.
If we strike a trade deal with the USA will we be independent? What if the USA demands that we don't sign a trade deal with China as they have with Canada and Mexico? Would we be independent then? If after even five years let alone dirty we decided to leave or renegotiate, how easy do you think that would be?
Like any legal agreement, you are expected to fulfil your undertakings. It's keeping a promise.
You disagree with keeping your promises? Is that not "betraying" your word?
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards?
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?Well mate we have never met and so i would not presume what language you use but im bigger than that so i apologize for using a word that upsets your sensative soul.I will give my next post more care and attention.
Shall we go through it again?
I'm not offended, upset nor am I disputing the definition of the word "thwart".
I haven't asked for an apology.
Is that clear enough?
Are you able to say if you use the word "thwart" in normal conversation? Does anybody that you know use it?
Are you able to explain why you chose to use the word "thwart" instead of "oppose" which would be more normal and less emotive.
They are a simple enough questions really. I'm interested to know if you think about the words you use or why you use them. That was the point of the comment.
Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't. No information yet.As i said i will give more consideration to the words i use in future so as not to offend personally i just write on these forums what i am thinking.As for the word thwart no i cant tell you how many times ive used it in a conversation no more than i could tell you how many times ive used oppose or any any other words.I really dont think its the word that offended it was the fact the vote didnt go the way you wanted it to so had to retaliate in the only way you could its nothing new on here detracting from the op.
I'm not offended. You still haven't quite got that it seems.
That's the third time that I've informed you of that.
You thought "thwart" did you?
As one poster pointed out, you are regurgitating a headline and don't even realise it. The words used in the headline was intended to illicit a specific emotional response in you, the leaver not me, the remainer.
It works.
In fact, your OP is incorrect. There was no vote to "thwart" Brexit.
The vote which was defeated was to take control of Parliamentary business with a declared intention of preventing a future Prime minister from not walking away without a negotiated settlement. This does not prevent the UK from leaving the EU does it?
The vote was to prevent a specific form of Brexit taking place wasn't it?Im impressed that you know me so well from my posts on here and what i think and how i communicate you,re not my ex wife in disguise by any chance? .I know what the vote was about and yes that is exactly why we are still in the Eu because the remainers took control along with their mate bercow to stop the uk leaving.so yes the vote was to thwart brexit,ohh sorry to oppose brexit. "
How about discussing your own OP rather than trying to change the subject?
You clearly don't understand what the vote was about despite it being explained to you.
You have just demonstrated that by insisting that it was something that it was not.
How does taking control of Parliamentary business stop Brexit from happening?
How does preventing a "no deal" option prevent Brexit from happening?
How do either of these acts even "oppose" Brexit? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"After reading some of the posts on this thread i'm going to start using the word thwart a lot more now "
You do already because you generally just re-post the headlines that use the word.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards?
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?Well mate we have never met and so i would not presume what language you use but im bigger than that so i apologize for using a word that upsets your sensative soul.I will give my next post more care and attention.
Shall we go through it again?
I'm not offended, upset nor am I disputing the definition of the word "thwart".
I haven't asked for an apology.
Is that clear enough?
Are you able to say if you use the word "thwart" in normal conversation? Does anybody that you know use it?
Are you able to explain why you chose to use the word "thwart" instead of "oppose" which would be more normal and less emotive.
They are a simple enough questions really. I'm interested to know if you think about the words you use or why you use them. That was the point of the comment.
Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't. No information yet.As i said i will give more consideration to the words i use in future so as not to offend personally i just write on these forums what i am thinking.As for the word thwart no i cant tell you how many times ive used it in a conversation no more than i could tell you how many times ive used oppose or any any other words.I really dont think its the word that offended it was the fact the vote didnt go the way you wanted it to so had to retaliate in the only way you could its nothing new on here detracting from the op.
I'm not offended. You still haven't quite got that it seems.
That's the third time that I've informed you of that.
You thought "thwart" did you?
As one poster pointed out, you are regurgitating a headline and don't even realise it. The words used in the headline was intended to illicit a specific emotional response in you, the leaver not me, the remainer.
It works.
In fact, your OP is incorrect. There was no vote to "thwart" Brexit.
The vote which was defeated was to take control of Parliamentary business with a declared intention of preventing a future Prime minister from not walking away without a negotiated settlement. This does not prevent the UK from leaving the EU does it?
The vote was to prevent a specific form of Brexit taking place wasn't it?Im impressed that you know me so well from my posts on here and what i think and how i communicate you,re not my ex wife in disguise by any chance? .I know what the vote was about and yes that is exactly why we are still in the Eu because the remainers took control along with their mate bercow to stop the uk leaving.so yes the vote was to thwart brexit,ohh sorry to oppose brexit.
How about discussing your own OP rather than trying to change the subject?
You clearly don't understand what the vote was about despite it being explained to you.
You have just demonstrated that by insisting that it was something that it was not.
How does taking control of Parliamentary business stop Brexit from happening?
How does preventing a "no deal" option prevent Brexit from happening?
How do either of these acts even "oppose" Brexit?"
im humbly grateful for you explaining it for me(doffs his cap) but despite that taking control as has happened before just creates loads of votes on what people dont want it waists time with no outcome at all kicking the can further down the road.So yes i do think it thwarts brexit.Can you not see through your blinkers that this is all a ploy by corbyn to get a general election and he doesn't give a toss about this country he is only interested in power. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?Ffs get over yourself you liberal namby pandys make me laugh you can find offense in anything and if anything its you who are making something out of nothing.I can understand we are on the other side of the coin when it comes to brexit but to make a big deal out of a word (which by the way means exactly what i said it does)smacks of someone who is just to disagree with anything said.In future would you like me to mail you a list of words i intend to use so you can vet them to see if they meet your standards?
Again silly.
I'm not offended nor am I disputing the definition of the word.
I commented on it being interesting that you use emotive words intended to generate a strong reaction rather than simple everyday ones.
Again, did you ever use the word "thwart" before in regular conversation? Who does?
Why not simply say "oppose"? That's what a normal person would say wouldn't they? Doesn't sound as unacceptable a thing to do as "thwart" though does it?Well mate we have never met and so i would not presume what language you use but im bigger than that so i apologize for using a word that upsets your sensative soul.I will give my next post more care and attention.
Shall we go through it again?
I'm not offended, upset nor am I disputing the definition of the word "thwart".
I haven't asked for an apology.
Is that clear enough?
Are you able to say if you use the word "thwart" in normal conversation? Does anybody that you know use it?
Are you able to explain why you chose to use the word "thwart" instead of "oppose" which would be more normal and less emotive.
They are a simple enough questions really. I'm interested to know if you think about the words you use or why you use them. That was the point of the comment.
Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't. No information yet.As i said i will give more consideration to the words i use in future so as not to offend personally i just write on these forums what i am thinking.As for the word thwart no i cant tell you how many times ive used it in a conversation no more than i could tell you how many times ive used oppose or any any other words.I really dont think its the word that offended it was the fact the vote didnt go the way you wanted it to so had to retaliate in the only way you could its nothing new on here detracting from the op.
I'm not offended. You still haven't quite got that it seems.
That's the third time that I've informed you of that.
You thought "thwart" did you?
As one poster pointed out, you are regurgitating a headline and don't even realise it. The words used in the headline was intended to illicit a specific emotional response in you, the leaver not me, the remainer.
It works.
In fact, your OP is incorrect. There was no vote to "thwart" Brexit.
The vote which was defeated was to take control of Parliamentary business with a declared intention of preventing a future Prime minister from not walking away without a negotiated settlement. This does not prevent the UK from leaving the EU does it?
The vote was to prevent a specific form of Brexit taking place wasn't it?Im impressed that you know me so well from my posts on here and what i think and how i communicate you,re not my ex wife in disguise by any chance? .I know what the vote was about and yes that is exactly why we are still in the Eu because the remainers took control along with their mate bercow to stop the uk leaving.so yes the vote was to thwart brexit,ohh sorry to oppose brexit.
How about discussing your own OP rather than trying to change the subject?
You clearly don't understand what the vote was about despite it being explained to you.
You have just demonstrated that by insisting that it was something that it was not.
How does taking control of Parliamentary business stop Brexit from happening?
How does preventing a "no deal" option prevent Brexit from happening?
How do either of these acts even "oppose" Brexit?im humbly grateful for you explaining it for me(doffs his cap) but despite that taking control as has happened before just creates loads of votes on what people dont want it waists time with no outcome at all kicking the can further down the road.So yes i do think it thwarts brexit.Can you not see through your blinkers that this is all a ploy by corbyn to get a general election and he doesn't give a toss about this country he is only interested in power. "
There was no proposal to hold any indicative votes. Only one to prevent the UK from leaving the UK without a deal.
You really do not know what was in question do you?
Of course it is a ploy by Corbyn to force a general election. I never suggested otherwise.
However, leavers continue to insist that anyone voting for the Labour party supports Brexit as that is apparently their manifesto position.
Consequently, a Labour victory will not prevent Brexit from happening. It just will not deliver your preferred version of Brexit.
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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However, leavers continue to insist that anyone voting for the Labour party supports Brexit as that is apparently their manifesto position.Well it was but im not sure now he still has not come off the fence,you have thornburry saying one thing and corbyn another to be honest i hav,nt a clue what labours position is apart from causing chaos in parliament to get a GE.I am fully aware that some labour voters voted to remain just like some tories but both parties voted to trigger A50 and were aware of what that meant. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"However, leavers continue to insist that anyone voting for the Labour party supports Brexit as that is apparently their manifesto position.Well it was but im not sure now he still has not come off the fence,you have thornburry saying one thing and corbyn another to be honest i hav,nt a clue what labours position is apart from causing chaos in parliament to get a GE.I am fully aware that some labour voters voted to remain just like some tories but both parties voted to trigger A50 and were aware of what that meant. "
So the vote would not have "thwarted" Brexit.
Simply not true that it would have.
You are actually saying that any opposition to a hard Brexit is unacceptable. |
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set..
WOW! - Racist, fascist, I guess the last piece of drivel is an accusation of Nazi? Oh and refuse to step up. That would mean that you think I wouldn’t?
You haven’t got a clue what my mindset is, so quit with your stupid accusations.
well ironically if the cap fits etc, you talk about stringing people up because they voted differently to you so what other conclusion should someone take from such nonsense?
is it a rational viewpoint to come to, is it something you sit down with your parents,children etc and say 'well i would tie a rope around a lamp post and hang him or her from it as they voted to remain so they are traitors'?
on your 'mindset' you've spoken about machine gunning people trying to cross the channel previously, about lacing up your boots to march to parliament, kicking heads in..
you come a cross on here as someone with hate oozing from every pore, for Europeans in general, the French, the Germans, immigrants etc..
what has caused this hatred?
so yes it is the thinking of the fascist and in fact the extremists murderers of the IS who cut aid workers heads off..
whatever you may call it, it isn't rational or normal.. "
I can’t be bothered scrolling back to reread my wording. But I didn’t mean all those who voted remain should be hanged as traitors. What I did mean was that all those toss pots who have been attempted to stop BREXIT from happening after the democratic referendum. Starting with Maybot I’d hang the fucking lot of them. |
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set..
WOW! - Racist, fascist, I guess the last piece of drivel is an accusation of Nazi? Oh and refuse to step up. That would mean that you think I wouldn’t?
You haven’t got a clue what my mindset is, so quit with your stupid accusations.
well ironically if the cap fits etc, you talk about stringing people up because they voted differently to you so what other conclusion should someone take from such nonsense?
is it a rational viewpoint to come to, is it something you sit down with your parents,children etc and say 'well i would tie a rope around a lamp post and hang him or her from it as they voted to remain so they are traitors'?
on your 'mindset' you've spoken about machine gunning people trying to cross the channel previously, about lacing up your boots to march to parliament, kicking heads in..
you come a cross on here as someone with hate oozing from every pore, for Europeans in general, the French, the Germans, immigrants etc..
what has caused this hatred?
so yes it is the thinking of the fascist and in fact the extremists murderers of the IS who cut aid workers heads off..
whatever you may call it, it isn't rational or normal..
I can’t be bothered scrolling back to reread my wording. But I didn’t mean all those who voted remain should be hanged as traitors. What I did mean was that all those toss pots who have been attempted to stop BREXIT from happening after the democratic referendum. Starting with Maybot I’d hang the fucking lot of them."
To my earlier I would then probably add unhinged..
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set..
WOW! - Racist, fascist, I guess the last piece of drivel is an accusation of Nazi? Oh and refuse to step up. That would mean that you think I wouldn’t?
You haven’t got a clue what my mindset is, so quit with your stupid accusations.
well ironically if the cap fits etc, you talk about stringing people up because they voted differently to you so what other conclusion should someone take from such nonsense?
is it a rational viewpoint to come to, is it something you sit down with your parents,children etc and say 'well i would tie a rope around a lamp post and hang him or her from it as they voted to remain so they are traitors'?
on your 'mindset' you've spoken about machine gunning people trying to cross the channel previously, about lacing up your boots to march to parliament, kicking heads in..
you come a cross on here as someone with hate oozing from every pore, for Europeans in general, the French, the Germans, immigrants etc..
what has caused this hatred?
so yes it is the thinking of the fascist and in fact the extremists murderers of the IS who cut aid workers heads off..
whatever you may call it, it isn't rational or normal..
I can’t be bothered scrolling back to reread my wording. But I didn’t mean all those who voted remain should be hanged as traitors. What I did mean was that all those toss pots who have been attempted to stop BREXIT from happening after the democratic referendum. Starting with Maybot I’d hang the fucking lot of them.
To my earlier I would then probably add unhinged..
Fantasies eh.. "
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat "
We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum.."
That's as big a lie as many of the others you've told on here..
You need to locate a dictionary and look at the words election and referendum..
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set..
WOW! - Racist, fascist, I guess the last piece of drivel is an accusation of Nazi? Oh and refuse to step up. That would mean that you think I wouldn’t?
You haven’t got a clue what my mindset is, so quit with your stupid accusations.
well ironically if the cap fits etc, you talk about stringing people up because they voted differently to you so what other conclusion should someone take from such nonsense?
is it a rational viewpoint to come to, is it something you sit down with your parents,children etc and say 'well i would tie a rope around a lamp post and hang him or her from it as they voted to remain so they are traitors'?
on your 'mindset' you've spoken about machine gunning people trying to cross the channel previously, about lacing up your boots to march to parliament, kicking heads in..
you come a cross on here as someone with hate oozing from every pore, for Europeans in general, the French, the Germans, immigrants etc..
what has caused this hatred?
so yes it is the thinking of the fascist and in fact the extremists murderers of the IS who cut aid workers heads off..
whatever you may call it, it isn't rational or normal..
I can’t be bothered scrolling back to reread my wording. But I didn’t mean all those who voted remain should be hanged as traitors. What I did mean was that all those toss pots who have been attempted to stop BREXIT from happening after the democratic referendum. Starting with Maybot I’d hang the fucking lot of them.
To my earlier I would then probably add unhinged..
Fantasies eh.. "
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum.."
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!"
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"The vote to thwart no deal brexit has been defeated in the commons.
Why are you using the word "thwart"?
It's a bit like "betrayal" and "humiliation".
Deliberately emotive.
Interesting.
I think his wording is quite correct, Liebour did attempt to thwart a no deal BREXIT, and no doubt were already counting their winnings before parliament voted against them.
When you look at the way in which politicians have treated our democratic referendum result, the words betrayal and humiliation easily spring to mind. As does the word traitors...
You completely missed the point.
You are being played by the "elites" you claim to despise.
Why say "thwart" rather than "oppose"? That would be more normal language?
If 48% of the population disagree with you who are they "betraying"?
Who's "humiliating" us? It's hard Brexiteers who have opposed our negotiated departure from the EU and brought further chaos to politics.
Are we all "traitors"? You'll need to build some big prisons or gallows then.
The vocabulary is intended to make people angry and outraged and it's being lapped up. Why feed the hate?
Yes I do believe remainers to be traitors. Not just against a democratic referendum, but against the very idea of Britain being an independent nation. There will be no need to build gallows, there are plenty enough lamp posts. :D
Before anyone tries to say that we were already independent all along, I would ask why then all this upheaval in our leaving the EU. If we really were independent then we should have been able to simply walk away, without paying a crippling fortune or having to get the EU and our House of Commons to both agree on the same ‘deal.’
well this remainer has worn the uniform of the armed forces of this country and i laugh at the thoughts of such as you using words like traitor..
i actually doubt you would know how to tie a bow let alone a noose but by all means continue to dwell in your fantasy land where the taste of bile fills your mouth and the only thing you wont blame for whatever ails you think the likes of the EU have brought upon you is your own decisions in life..
Oh it’s the “I’m ex forces” card is it? Plenty of traitors from all over the world once wore those uniforms.
I said traitor to a democratic referendum and the very thought of our independence.
If the cap fits wear it, or perhaps you can have a bury...
And plenty of racist gob shites have spouted the same drivel as you do from the back but lack the bollocks to step up..
its the thinking of the fascist who knows little of nor actually cares about democracy that in a democracy those with a different political view who choose to express that democratic right are 'traitors'..
the same imbecilic cowards who beat old men, smashed windows in their gangs and pushed kids into gas chambers..
that is your mind set..
WOW! - Racist, fascist, I guess the last piece of drivel is an accusation of Nazi? Oh and refuse to step up. That would mean that you think I wouldn’t?
You haven’t got a clue what my mindset is, so quit with your stupid accusations.
well ironically if the cap fits etc, you talk about stringing people up because they voted differently to you so what other conclusion should someone take from such nonsense?
is it a rational viewpoint to come to, is it something you sit down with your parents,children etc and say 'well i would tie a rope around a lamp post and hang him or her from it as they voted to remain so they are traitors'?
on your 'mindset' you've spoken about machine gunning people trying to cross the channel previously, about lacing up your boots to march to parliament, kicking heads in..
you come a cross on here as someone with hate oozing from every pore, for Europeans in general, the French, the Germans, immigrants etc..
what has caused this hatred?
so yes it is the thinking of the fascist and in fact the extremists murderers of the IS who cut aid workers heads off..
whatever you may call it, it isn't rational or normal..
I can’t be bothered scrolling back to reread my wording. But I didn’t mean all those who voted remain should be hanged as traitors. What I did mean was that all those toss pots who have been attempted to stop BREXIT from happening after the democratic referendum. Starting with Maybot I’d hang the fucking lot of them.
To my earlier I would then probably add unhinged..
Fantasies eh..
I think you're being very polite.All things considered . "
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam? "
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks. |
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"However, leavers continue to insist that anyone voting for the Labour party supports Brexit as that is apparently their manifesto position.Well it was but im not sure now he still has not come off the fence,you have thornburry saying one thing and corbyn another to be honest i hav,nt a clue what labours position is apart from causing chaos in parliament to get a GE.I am fully aware that some labour voters voted to remain just like some tories but both parties voted to trigger A50 and were aware of what that meant.
So the vote would not have "thwarted" Brexit.
Simply not true that it would have.
You are actually saying that any opposition to a hard Brexit is unacceptable."
If you could be bothered to read the op instead of just jumping on something to argue about because you didnt like the result.first the word i used then the context you will find i said it was to thwart a NO DEAL brexit no brexit per say. i am quiet prepared to debate brexit but please dont mis quote me just to score a point. |
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks."
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point.. "
Like I said already, the liberal left is split, always have been always will be. They are so split that they lost an election to a brand new political party with only one policy.
It seems pretty clear that you are the one unable to recognise ‘the basic point.’
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point..
Like I said already, the liberal left is split, always have been always will be. They are so split that they lost an election to a brand new political party with only one policy.
It seems pretty clear that you are the one unable to recognise ‘the basic point.’
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Your acceptance that your maths is pants is fine, the splits in both tories and Labour is hardly news though..
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point..
Like I said already, the liberal left is split, always have been always will be. They are so split that they lost an election to a brand new political party with only one policy.
It seems pretty clear that you are the one unable to recognise ‘the basic point.’
Your acceptance that your maths is pants is fine, the splits in both tories and Labour is hardly news though..
Is it.. "
I have accepted nothing, but when will you accept that the remainers are so split that they lost an election, to a party that were only a few weeks old and only had one policy?
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point.. "
If people cannot be bothered to vote we can ignore their opinion. Unless you are trying to claim that all leavers voted Brexit( who would be highly unlikely ) the results can only be seen as an endorsement for Brexit. |
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point..
Like I said already, the liberal left is split, always have been always will be. They are so split that they lost an election to a brand new political party with only one policy.
It seems pretty clear that you are the one unable to recognise ‘the basic point.’
Your acceptance that your maths is pants is fine, the splits in both tories and Labour is hardly news though..
Is it..
I have accepted nothing, but when will you accept that the remainers are so split that they lost an election, to a party that were only a few weeks old and only had one policy?
Is it really that difficult???"
As I've said which your having trouble understanding, the splits in both parties is evident and has been so for over 3 years..
It's yesterday's news..
The Brexit Party is a new name but you would have to be thick as pig shit to not realise that it's the ukip core under a new name..
How the fuck anyone can claim anything else is beyond stupid..
Your Nige will rename it again for the 25 quids the gullible types will cough up no doubt..
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point.. If people cannot be bothered to vote we can ignore their opinion. Unless you are trying to claim that all leavers voted Brexit( who would be highly unlikely ) the results can only be seen as an endorsement for Brexit. "
If they were in the majority which they weren't on the for and against brexit and on a 37% turnout, do the maths Pat..
Your using the same false claims as you tried to on your previous 'there is a majority who want to leave on WTO terms'..
Pure fantasy..
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point..
Like I said already, the liberal left is split, always have been always will be. They are so split that they lost an election to a brand new political party with only one policy.
It seems pretty clear that you are the one unable to recognise ‘the basic point.’
Your acceptance that your maths is pants is fine, the splits in both tories and Labour is hardly news though..
Is it..
I have accepted nothing, but when will you accept that the remainers are so split that they lost an election, to a party that were only a few weeks old and only had one policy?
Is it really that difficult???
As I've said which your having trouble understanding, the splits in both parties is evident and has been so for over 3 years..
It's yesterday's news..
The Brexit Party is a new name but you would have to be thick as pig shit to not realise that it's the ukip core under a new name..
How the fuck anyone can claim anything else is beyond stupid..
Your Nige will rename it again for the 25 quids the gullible types will cough up no doubt..
Being sold a pup once then the seller does it all again, frustrating eh.. "
Nige refused to return to UKIP because it had admitted the likes of Yaxley Lennon (Robertson it whatever its name is). Not that I have been arguing that point in this thread.
It is still a FACT that our party won the EU elections with no membership, no manifesto, and only one policy.
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point..
Like I said already, the liberal left is split, always have been always will be. They are so split that they lost an election to a brand new political party with only one policy.
It seems pretty clear that you are the one unable to recognise ‘the basic point.’
Your acceptance that your maths is pants is fine, the splits in both tories and Labour is hardly news though..
Is it..
I have accepted nothing, but when will you accept that the remainers are so split that they lost an election, to a party that were only a few weeks old and only had one policy?
Is it really that difficult???
As I've said which your having trouble understanding, the splits in both parties is evident and has been so for over 3 years..
It's yesterday's news..
The Brexit Party is a new name but you would have to be thick as pig shit to not realise that it's the ukip core under a new name..
How the fuck anyone can claim anything else is beyond stupid..
Your Nige will rename it again for the 25 quids the gullible types will cough up no doubt..
Being sold a pup once then the seller does it all again, frustrating eh..
Nige refused to return to UKIP because it had admitted the likes of Yaxley Lennon (Robertson it whatever its name is). Not that I have been arguing that point in this thread.
It is still a FACT that our party won the EU elections with no membership, no manifesto, and only one policy.
It’s down to you that you cannot see the significance in this."
So my explaining to you what I and pretty much everyone with an ounce of common sense can see means I somehow missed the significance of it..
Yes OK..
Ps no one said your Nige intended to return to ukip, probably bled that source of cash dry in any case.. |
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The left is indeed split. Which is why, If you start pretending the eu elections was a referendum, you have to add the split votes. As a real referendum is likely to be binary.
This split is also why the Peterborough result was a shock. Esoecilaly as it was in a leave area that wasnt overly lefty.
What the eu elections did tell us was there was not an obvious majority for a no deal Brexit. |
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Boris will have no choice but to take us out with no deal. He says he doesn’t want to, but that he is prepared to do so if left with no choice.
I do believe that no deal had to be an option if we were ever going to get a deal. But I have a feeling that the EU will offer us no acceptable alternative. Having said that, I don’t believe all the doom and gloom being said about it. The further we are from the EU the better. |
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"The left is indeed split. Which is why, If you start pretending the eu elections was a referendum, you have to add the split votes. As a real referendum is likely to be binary.
This split is also why the Peterborough result was a shock. Esoecilaly as it was in a leave area that wasnt overly lefty.
What the eu elections did tell us was there was not an obvious majority for a no deal Brexit. "
There never has been or will be a majority for no deal brexit.As another forumite has said many times peak brexit is over.
Less froathing and foaming at the mouth from the brextremists is the order of the day. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Clause 12 of the legal agreement signed by the UK and EU to extend UK membership until October 31 is explicit:
"This extension excludes any re-opening of the withdrawal agreement."
Not for the first time, those Brexiteers promising to come back from Brussels with a new deal before October 31 are in cloud cuckoo land. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks."
Everybody else has to think about how to take a company forward rather than shouting loudly about one thing, pretending it's easy and pretending it will solve everything.
Your Nige is the unelected dictator of his own undemocratic club. Put that into the perspective of your belief that the EU is not democratic. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks."
12% of the voting population voted for your version of Brexit.
Do you disagree? |
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" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
12% of the voting population voted for your version of Brexit.
Do you disagree?"
A lot more than any other party in the election. I don’t care about votes combined, they (the left) are split and that is the only thing they will get to remain. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point..
Like I said already, the liberal left is split, always have been always will be. They are so split that they lost an election to a brand new political party with only one policy.
It seems pretty clear that you are the one unable to recognise ‘the basic point.’
Your acceptance that your maths is pants is fine, the splits in both tories and Labour is hardly news though..
Is it..
I have accepted nothing, but when will you accept that the remainers are so split that they lost an election, to a party that were only a few weeks old and only had one policy?
Is it really that difficult???"
Several parties have a single position to remain but a range of other policies. The Brexit party has only managed one policy.
So the question you are presenting is hard leave or not hard leave.
The UKIP and Brexit parties got 34.9% of the vote.
That means that 65.1% do not want hard Brexit.
However "split" the liberal left is, most of those who voted do not support your position on Brexit.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
That’s the thing, the politicians, press and media have worked hard for three years to reverse the referendum result. But Nige proved that they failed with a two months old political party with no manifesto in the EU elections.
We continue to win while the maggots continue to cry about it. Happy days!!
Did you and Pat fail the same maths exam?
Our party won the EU elections, one doesn’t need to pass an exam to see that. A party with no manifesto and only one policy beat the lot of them, yeeeehaaaaa! The liberal left are split, they always have been and always will be. So prattling on about the remain parties collective vote is a mere semantics, indeed a lot of old bollocks.
The combined vote of the parties opposed to the only policy the BP have is relevant and was more than theirs..
On a less than 38% turnout..
Pretty clear you lack the ability to recognise that basic point..
Like I said already, the liberal left is split, always have been always will be. They are so split that they lost an election to a brand new political party with only one policy.
It seems pretty clear that you are the one unable to recognise ‘the basic point.’
Your acceptance that your maths is pants is fine, the splits in both tories and Labour is hardly news though..
Is it..
I have accepted nothing, but when will you accept that the remainers are so split that they lost an election, to a party that were only a few weeks old and only had one policy?
Is it really that difficult???
As I've said which your having trouble understanding, the splits in both parties is evident and has been so for over 3 years..
It's yesterday's news..
The Brexit Party is a new name but you would have to be thick as pig shit to not realise that it's the ukip core under a new name..
How the fuck anyone can claim anything else is beyond stupid..
Your Nige will rename it again for the 25 quids the gullible types will cough up no doubt..
Being sold a pup once then the seller does it all again, frustrating eh..
Nige refused to return to UKIP because it had admitted the likes of Yaxley Lennon (Robertson it whatever its name is). Not that I have been arguing that point in this thread.
It is still a FACT that our party won the EU elections with no membership, no manifesto, and only one policy.
It’s down to you that you cannot see the significance in this."
It is not your party.
You are not a member.
You have no say in its rules. There are none.
You have no say in electing candidates.
You have no say in deselecting candidates.
You have no say in policy.
You have no say on who the leader is.
You support a dictatorship against democratic parties. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum.."
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
" Great news. At least we are now in with a chance of securing a decent deal even if it means leaving on WTO terms and securing deals after the event.
The future looks good now. There was a great article in today's Evening Standard about Boris and all he has done for London.
He is a great vote puller and hopefully will pull the Conservatives back from the brink. Sadly Esther Mc Vey now looks to be a rank outsider .
pat... do you know the difference between people "thinking" you are stupid, and people "knowing" you are stupid.....
its writing things like the stuff above.......
what did that person in the brexit select committee say today about a no deal brexit? since it is crime to knowingly lie to parliament, did it go in one ear and out of the other (since there seems to be nothing in between to stop it!)
sometimes you just can't help "stupid".... Luckily it is irrelevant what people think of you on here .
In a real life scenario in some situations you would be at risk of being beaten up if you called someone stupid . The reality is that no one would do that in real life , these type of comments are the exclusive reserve of internet forum users .
I will of course thank you for your comments and mark then against feedback from other sources.
My start point would of course be to examine the motives that drive someone to call someone stupid on an internet forum.
Luckily everything you say is completely irrelevant because it is based in fantasy, not fact.
A start point would be for you to take in information that is provided to you even if it does not accord with your views.
You have been scoring 0 in logical thought for some time. Hi. Does a nil score in logical matter . Surely what matters is what you achieve in real life .?
Making money in a rising market doesn't make anyone clever.
You seem to believe that you are the only person who has managed to achieve any level of financial success due to your unique insights.
You aren't.
Lots of other people have managed to do perfectly well whilst taking in a wider range of news sources than the Mail and are also capable of spending time talking to "real people".
Your arrogance in ignoring all information other than what aligns with your view is staggering. Your preference for biased information is quite remarkable.
Try having a look for the thread on National crisis and listen to another point of view.
You won't though Your post is bizarre . As far as I am aware I have never posted any information about any aspect of my finances on this forum. Why would anyone do that ? I do not see many other members changing their views as a result of postings on these forums .
My views are in line with the majority of the population. I support the Conservative Government who are in power , support Brexit ( 52 % do ) , support the DUP who are the ruling party in Northern Ireland and support the president of the USA. Most people support these views. Why should I accept you ideas when mine are in line with the majority of the population. ? It would appear that yours are different to those of the general public.
You often lecture on your 20 year investment cycles made on advice from your specialist publications. You often say how well the stock market is doing, except for the times when it isn't
The majority of the population used to think that homosexuality was disgusting and that that witches should be burnt at the stake
The majority of the population made a decision based on limited information on a specific day but depending on the weather and a headline could have gone the other way. That's why leavers don't want another one because it will be clear that the country is ambivalent about the EU which is a very reasonable one and is that of Eurosceptic member that we have always been. Very pragmatic and very British.
Mine opinion is not at odds with the general public because the 48% of the population who voted to remain and the majority of Americans who voted against Trump are of a similar mind. They are also the general public. We don't stop being people because we disagree with you Pat We already had a second referendum a few weeks ago and it was a clear endorsement of Brexit . If anything the support for Brexit has increased as European citizens living in the UK were allowed to vote . ( this is based on the assumption that most EU citizens would vote remain ).
Leavers would have no fear of a second referendum..
Leavers should not, by your strange logic, so why do they?"
I think you are mistaking fear for why should they give in to a load of sad losers stamping their feet and screaming because they lost. |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"I think you are mistaking fear for why should they give in to a load of sad losers stamping their feet and screaming because they lost.
What did you win?"
well as the comment was on the referendum take a wild guess. |
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"I think you are mistaking fear for why should they give in to a load of sad losers stamping their feet and screaming because they lost.
What did you win?well as the comment was on the referendum take a wild guess. "
A pup then..
Or a lame duck.. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"I think you are mistaking fear for why should they give in to a load of sad losers stamping their feet and screaming because they lost.
What did you win?well as the comment was on the referendum take a wild guess. "
Okay, what was the prize?
I get the fact that on a day in June three years ago, a vote went in your favour.
But what has it won you?
All I can see is chaos, mayhem and dysfunctional government.
Am I missing something? |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"I think you are mistaking fear for why should they give in to a load of sad losers stamping their feet and screaming because they lost.
What did you win?well as the comment was on the referendum take a wild guess.
Okay, what was the prize?
I get the fact that on a day in June three years ago, a vote went in your favour.
But what has it won you?
All I can see is chaos, mayhem and dysfunctional government.
Am I missing something?"
So why keep banging on about another unless you enjoy the current situation? lets just get it done. |
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