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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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A lot of people on here have demonstrated a very confused understanding of the relationship between law and politics so this series is certainly worth a listen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00057m8
The first half of the second programme gives a good interpretation of how representative democracy functions and why referenda cause an irreconcilable paradox with it.
The second part of the same talk makes a strong argument against the overstretch of the ECHR.
All very interesting.
However, as it runs contrary to many people's opinions I'm sure those with strong views won't listen  |
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over a year ago
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Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising |
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"Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising "
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What's he said you disagree with. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising "
Actually he covers this in one of the lectures and gives his reasons for it. He didn't say anything about women not being promoted. Becoming a judge takes experience and knowledge. That takes time to acquire. Quite simply, it takes time for consequences of changes in the system to work through. You should also be in no doubt that the judiciary is in crisis. A Senior Judges takes a substantial pay cut from being a practising barrister. It is one of the few roles in society which people make a very real financial sacrifice to pursue. Recruitment is already a very significant problem regardless of gender or background.
There is rather more beyond the headlines and sound bites. |
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"Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising
Actually he covers this in one of the lectures and gives his reasons for it. He didn't say anything about women not being promoted. Becoming a judge takes experience and knowledge. That takes time to acquire. Quite simply, it takes time for consequences of changes in the system to work through. You should also be in no doubt that the judiciary is in crisis. A Senior Judges takes a substantial pay cut from being a practising barrister. It is one of the few roles in society which people make a very real financial sacrifice to pursue. Recruitment is already a very significant problem regardless of gender or background.
There is rather more beyond the headlines and sound bites."
Quite aware of issues facing the judiciary and the legal profession at large, having until recently been a member of the latter. But thank you for pointing it out - any crisis in the system will affect the general public and their ability to access their legal rights
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By *asyuk OP Man
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"Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising
Actually he covers this in one of the lectures and gives his reasons for it. He didn't say anything about women not being promoted. Becoming a judge takes experience and knowledge. That takes time to acquire. Quite simply, it takes time for consequences of changes in the system to work through. You should also be in no doubt that the judiciary is in crisis. A Senior Judges takes a substantial pay cut from being a practising barrister. It is one of the few roles in society which people make a very real financial sacrifice to pursue. Recruitment is already a very significant problem regardless of gender or background.
There is rather more beyond the headlines and sound bites.
Quite aware of issues facing the judiciary and the legal profession at large, having until recently been a member of the latter. But thank you for pointing it out - any crisis in the system will affect the general public and their ability to access their legal rights
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So what is your point?
Did you listen to the talk or do you "know" already? |
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"Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising
Actually he covers this in one of the lectures and gives his reasons for it. He didn't say anything about women not being promoted. Becoming a judge takes experience and knowledge. That takes time to acquire. Quite simply, it takes time for consequences of changes in the system to work through. You should also be in no doubt that the judiciary is in crisis. A Senior Judges takes a substantial pay cut from being a practising barrister. It is one of the few roles in society which people make a very real financial sacrifice to pursue. Recruitment is already a very significant problem regardless of gender or background.
There is rather more beyond the headlines and sound bites.
Quite aware of issues facing the judiciary and the legal profession at large, having until recently been a member of the latter. But thank you for pointing it out - any crisis in the system will affect the general public and their ability to access their legal rights
So what is your point?
Did you listen to the talk or do you "know" already?"
Appears you do - go ahead, answer for me x |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising
Actually he covers this in one of the lectures and gives his reasons for it. He didn't say anything about women not being promoted. Becoming a judge takes experience and knowledge. That takes time to acquire. Quite simply, it takes time for consequences of changes in the system to work through. You should also be in no doubt that the judiciary is in crisis. A Senior Judges takes a substantial pay cut from being a practising barrister. It is one of the few roles in society which people make a very real financial sacrifice to pursue. Recruitment is already a very significant problem regardless of gender or background.
There is rather more beyond the headlines and sound bites.
Quite aware of issues facing the judiciary and the legal profession at large, having until recently been a member of the latter. But thank you for pointing it out - any crisis in the system will affect the general public and their ability to access their legal rights
So what is your point?
Did you listen to the talk or do you "know" already?
Appears you do - go ahead, answer for me x"
I have no idea what you want to say other than you don't like Lord Sumption because you think he's sexist but haven't listened to the lecture.
You are a very clever legal person but don't want to share the profound information that you have.
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"Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising
Actually he covers this in one of the lectures and gives his reasons for it. He didn't say anything about women not being promoted. Becoming a judge takes experience and knowledge. That takes time to acquire. Quite simply, it takes time for consequences of changes in the system to work through. You should also be in no doubt that the judiciary is in crisis. A Senior Judges takes a substantial pay cut from being a practising barrister. It is one of the few roles in society which people make a very real financial sacrifice to pursue. Recruitment is already a very significant problem regardless of gender or background.
There is rather more beyond the headlines and sound bites.
Quite aware of issues facing the judiciary and the legal profession at large, having until recently been a member of the latter. But thank you for pointing it out - any crisis in the system will affect the general public and their ability to access their legal rights
So what is your point?
Did you listen to the talk or do you "know" already?
Appears you do - go ahead, answer for me x
I have no idea what you want to say other than you don't like Lord Sumption because you think he's sexist but haven't listened to the lecture.
You are a very clever legal person but don't want to share the profound information that you have.
Thanks for contributing "
Hate to disabuse you of this, but just because you expect me to do something, doesn’t mean I’m obligated to complyp. You didn’t appreciate my contribution to your thread so yes, while I could add more I don’t appreciate your aggressive tone towards me. And for the record, nowhere have I said Lord Sumption is sexist. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Read some of his thoughts on how achieving gender equality in the legal workplace would stop men from applying - talk about old-school white, male, entitled privilege - women shoukd not be promoted because men won’t like it !
It’s no wonder that no progress is ever made, with men like him in positions of power and influence actively working to hold women back
Shocking yet not surprising
Actually he covers this in one of the lectures and gives his reasons for it. He didn't say anything about women not being promoted. Becoming a judge takes experience and knowledge. That takes time to acquire. Quite simply, it takes time for consequences of changes in the system to work through. You should also be in no doubt that the judiciary is in crisis. A Senior Judges takes a substantial pay cut from being a practising barrister. It is one of the few roles in society which people make a very real financial sacrifice to pursue. Recruitment is already a very significant problem regardless of gender or background.
There is rather more beyond the headlines and sound bites.
Quite aware of issues facing the judiciary and the legal profession at large, having until recently been a member of the latter. But thank you for pointing it out - any crisis in the system will affect the general public and their ability to access their legal rights
So what is your point?
Did you listen to the talk or do you "know" already?
Appears you do - go ahead, answer for me x
I have no idea what you want to say other than you don't like Lord Sumption because you think he's sexist but haven't listened to the lecture.
You are a very clever legal person but don't want to share the profound information that you have.
Thanks for contributing
Hate to disabuse you of this, but just because you expect me to do something, doesn’t mean I’m obligated to complyp. You didn’t appreciate my contribution to your thread so yes, while I could add more I don’t appreciate your aggressive tone towards me. And for the record, nowhere have I said Lord Sumption is sexist. "
Then what have you said or contributed? Anything at all?
You started off by saying he was a twat. Very informative.
Then you said he had archaic views on women but is apparently not sexist.
Then you said that you know all about the law and the judiciary.
You did not actually listen to the podcast but are upset that I'm calling you out on it.
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Why are you so cross/aggressive?"
Cross, not aggressive.
You didn't listen to the program did you? So why comment so negatively with zero unsupported opinion? Then describe sexism bit claim you weren't calling him sexist because you didn't use the specific word.
Why did you even feel the need to post? |
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