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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Politics needs a massive reformation. Though I doubt it will happen.
Too many people voting because they oppose things, and too many complaining about the state of affairs and not voting!
It's a mess. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Politics needs a massive reformation. Though I doubt it will happen.
Too many people voting because they oppose things, and too many complaining about the state of affairs and not voting!
It's a mess."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Politics needs a massive reformation. Though I doubt it will happen.
Too many people voting because they oppose things, and too many complaining about the state of affairs and not voting!
It's a mess."
If victim Hood and identity politics was removed then things can be dealt with sensibly with fact not opinion |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Seeing as those on the right and this evening on the left of politics both moan about the BBC being biased, they must be doing something right by upsetting both.
UKIP have recently confirmed they are now fronted by racists with no other clear political goal. That comment has nothing to do with BREXIT and everything to do with the comments and associations of Butler their leader and the poster boys they now use. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There a product of the establishments making, over the years I've come to realise some truths and that is anybody that says anything that's not the mainstream established narrative will be smeared as a racist, communist, Nazi, Jew hating xenophobe every little thing they say will be taken and twisted to suit that view.
Take Donald trump for instance, every paper has entire teams monitoring his Twitter feed anything he says that's outlandish but half truthful and he's an old crazy, orange, bankrupt, misogynist who's been voted in by white supremacists but when he tweets he wants to start a war with Iran all his voters are against him and no media attention at all because that half truth is the establishment like wars in far away places all of them from the media to commentators to politicans love a good bombing and none of those politicans that bomb and murder and invade are seen as anything but dapper moral upright politicans, yet politicans that say we need a wall or we need to start looking at better integration policies or God forbid curbing levels of immigration until we get a handle on the problems we already have here are seen as crazy immoral degenerates.
That's not too say ukip members don't have they're problems or Donald trump is mother Teresa but left to the mainstream media you'd be convinced he's Hitler. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"What do people think about ukip
A party that completely lost its way, to become the EDL/BNP in a shirt-and-tie.
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Have to agree. These elections should marginalise them to the point of insignificance.
The Brexit party is the one to watch now |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What do people think about ukip
A party that completely lost its way, to become the EDL/BNP in a shirt-and-tie.
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What do people think about ukip
A party that completely lost its way, to become the EDL/BNP in a shirt-and-tie.
How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto "
Dont really give a fuck whats in their manifesto as imho if it looks like a cunt and behaves like one too then logic gives you your answer  |
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"What do people think about ukip
A party that completely lost its way, to become the EDL/BNP in a shirt-and-tie.
How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Dont really give a fuck whats in their manifesto as imho if it looks like a racist, xenophobic nuckle dragging cunt and behaves like one too then logic gives you your answer "
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"Just another bunch of lying politicians"
couldnt agree with you more they should feel right at home with the other 650 shysters in parliment. wether you like them or not the blame for them being a party lays with labour cons and the lib dems wont include the greens in that as they a non party really and change uk will probably cease to exist after thursday |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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UKIP are only getting the press coverage they are currently getting, because of the function the party, as was, undertook during and before the Brexit vote. They went through a leader seemingly every week for ages and the current one invites people like Tommy Robinson because he has similar views to Butler but also brings press attention.
Irrespective of your political views UKIP as an even remotely serious political party died when Farage left. I don’t like him, but he’s very good at whipping up public sentiment. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Have you read it?"
Yes and when you get past the bullshit jess Phillips tweet, tommy and death cult propaganda from the msm a lot of it makes sense. I am proud to be English /British and don't agree with the EU empire idea. Wto all the way. We have been a great country and can be again as long as everyone believes in it. As long as we have sjw groups promoting separatism and sore losers in power we can only vote for the little guys who have not been tainted by previous political ties and business relationships that depend on eu membership like Theresa's husband for example. Just my point of view. Most politicians are wankers but if I'm going to get fucked by a parliamentary group I at least want to bend over for a British government under British law. Unless its corbyn in which case its to the gulag with the rest of the degenerates and anti communists |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Have you read it?
Yes and when you get past the bullshit jess Phillips tweet, tommy and death cult propaganda from the msm a lot of it makes sense. I am proud to be English /British and don't agree with the EU empire idea. Wto all the way. We have been a great country and can be again as long as everyone believes in it. As long as we have sjw groups promoting separatism and sore losers in power we can only vote for the little guys who have not been tainted by previous political ties and business relationships that depend on eu membership like Theresa's husband for example. Just my point of view. Most politicians are wankers but if I'm going to get fucked by a parliamentary group I at least want to bend over for a British government under British law. Unless its corbyn in which case its to the gulag with the rest of the degenerates and anti communists "
What you have said is simply a meaningless wish list. A very simplistic ideological expression - exactly what populist politics is all about.
Meanwhile, in the grown up world, nothing is easy, nothing is black and white and your town, your region, your country and the planet needs complex solutions to difficult issues. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Have you read it?
Yes and when you get past the bullshit jess Phillips tweet, tommy and death cult propaganda from the msm a lot of it makes sense. I am proud to be English /British and don't agree with the EU empire idea. Wto all the way. We have been a great country and can be again as long as everyone believes in it. As long as we have sjw groups promoting separatism and sore losers in power we can only vote for the little guys who have not been tainted by previous political ties and business relationships that depend on eu membership like Theresa's husband for example. Just my point of view. Most politicians are wankers but if I'm going to get fucked by a parliamentary group I at least want to bend over for a British government under British law. Unless its corbyn in which case its to the gulag with the rest of the degenerates and anti communists
What you have said is simply a meaningless wish list. A very simplistic ideological expression - exactly what populist politics is all about.
Meanwhile, in the grown up world, nothing is easy, nothing is black and white and your town, your region, your country and the planet needs complex solutions to difficult issues."
. So who is your vote going to for the EU election |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Have you read it?
Yes and when you get past the bullshit jess Phillips tweet, tommy and death cult propaganda from the msm a lot of it makes sense. I am proud to be English /British and don't agree with the EU empire idea. Wto all the way. We have been a great country and can be again as long as everyone believes in it. As long as we have sjw groups promoting separatism and sore losers in power we can only vote for the little guys who have not been tainted by previous political ties and business relationships that depend on eu membership like Theresa's husband for example. Just my point of view. Most politicians are wankers but if I'm going to get fucked by a parliamentary group I at least want to bend over for a British government under British law. Unless its corbyn in which case its to the gulag with the rest of the degenerates and anti communists
What you have said is simply a meaningless wish list. A very simplistic ideological expression - exactly what populist politics is all about.
Meanwhile, in the grown up world, nothing is easy, nothing is black and white and your town, your region, your country and the planet needs complex solutions to difficult issues.. So who is your vote going to for the EU election "
I will be voting Liberal Democrat because I have spoken to my prospective MEP in town and their policies mean that my voice in Europe will be constructive and useful both for my region, my country and within the EU.
I see no point in voting for someone who will attend the EU Parliament simply to disrupt it - if they were actually to ever attend at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Have you read it?
Yes and when you get past the bullshit jess Phillips tweet, tommy and death cult propaganda from the msm a lot of it makes sense. I am proud to be English /British and don't agree with the EU empire idea. Wto all the way. We have been a great country and can be again as long as everyone believes in it. As long as we have sjw groups promoting separatism and sore losers in power we can only vote for the little guys who have not been tainted by previous political ties and business relationships that depend on eu membership like Theresa's husband for example. Just my point of view. Most politicians are wankers but if I'm going to get fucked by a parliamentary group I at least want to bend over for a British government under British law. Unless its corbyn in which case its to the gulag with the rest of the degenerates and anti communists "
Christ almighty.....you really need to read a book or two and get some perspective instead of trotting out all this war picture library nonsense.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Have you read it?
Yes and when you get past the bullshit jess Phillips tweet, tommy and death cult propaganda from the msm a lot of it makes sense. I am proud to be English /British and don't agree with the EU empire idea. Wto all the way. We have been a great country and can be again as long as everyone believes in it. As long as we have sjw groups promoting separatism and sore losers in power we can only vote for the little guys who have not been tainted by previous political ties and business relationships that depend on eu membership like Theresa's husband for example. Just my point of view. Most politicians are wankers but if I'm going to get fucked by a parliamentary group I at least want to bend over for a British government under British law. Unless its corbyn in which case its to the gulag with the rest of the degenerates and anti communists
Christ almighty.....you really need to read a book or two and get some perspective instead of trotting out all this war picture library nonsense. "
? What do you recommend das kapital or the sad death of Europe |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Have you read it?
Yes and when you get past the bullshit jess Phillips tweet, tommy and death cult propaganda from the msm a lot of it makes sense. I am proud to be English /British and don't agree with the EU empire idea. Wto all the way. We have been a great country and can be again as long as everyone believes in it. As long as we have sjw groups promoting separatism and sore losers in power we can only vote for the little guys who have not been tainted by previous political ties and business relationships that depend on eu membership like Theresa's husband for example. Just my point of view. Most politicians are wankers but if I'm going to get fucked by a parliamentary group I at least want to bend over for a British government under British law. Unless its corbyn in which case its to the gulag with the rest of the degenerates and anti communists
Christ almighty.....you really need to read a book or two and get some perspective instead of trotting out all this war picture library nonsense. ? What do you recommend das kapital or the sad death of Europe "
Try prisoners of geography for a history and geo-political crammer. Its an interesting read for a starting point. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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How do you evidence that, have you read the manifesto
Have you read it?
Yes and when you get past the bullshit jess Phillips tweet, tommy and death cult propaganda from the msm a lot of it makes sense. I am proud to be English /British and don't agree with the EU empire idea. Wto all the way. We have been a great country and can be again as long as everyone believes in it. As long as we have sjw groups promoting separatism and sore losers in power we can only vote for the little guys who have not been tainted by previous political ties and business relationships that depend on eu membership like Theresa's husband for example. Just my point of view. Most politicians are wankers but if I'm going to get fucked by a parliamentary group I at least want to bend over for a British government under British law. Unless its corbyn in which case its to the gulag with the rest of the degenerates and anti communists
Christ almighty.....you really need to read a book or two and get some perspective instead of trotting out all this war picture library nonsense. ? What do you recommend das kapital or the sad death of Europe
Try prisoners of geography for a history and geo-political crammer. Its an interesting read for a starting point. "
I read that recently, very good. I'm reading a book about the rise of fascism in Germany made by diary entries, really interesting. Being an ex history and politics teacher I find it fascinating times, also depressing when you hear terms banded around WHICH are grossly wrong. Hense the reason for the forum question. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"You are a student of fascism, too?"
Abs not, the complete opposite, minimal government, essential services and freedom of speech and expression. Not in the least socialist, or fascist |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"You have read the UKIP manifesto and you are reading a book about the rise of fascism.
Do tell me more.
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I see the rise of authoritarianism and don't like it. I just find history and politics fascinating and to see it being twisted and cherry picked by Labour, msm and the student sjw's is shocking and amusing but it must end. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What do people think about ukip "
A spent force who have gone into the political wilderness under the leadership of Gerard Batten, who has associated the party with the likes of Carl Benjamin and Tommy Robinson. If you want to leave the EU, a vote for Ukip now will be a wasted vote. Brexiteers need to vote for the Brexit party on Thursday 23rd May. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What do people think about ukip
A spent force who have gone into the political wilderness under the leadership of Gerard Batten, who has associated the party with the likes of Carl Benjamin and Tommy Robinson. If you want to leave the EU, a vote for Ukip now will be a wasted vote. Brexiteers need to vote for the Brexit party on Thursday 23rd May. "
Have you seen Carl Benjamin or just heard the slurs from the media, do you actually know anything about him. If not I would recommend his YouTube channel, spend a few hours researching then see if your opinion changes. I agree about tommy, good intentions, poor execution |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What do people think about ukip
A spent force who have gone into the political wilderness under the leadership of Gerard Batten, who has associated the party with the likes of Carl Benjamin and Tommy Robinson. If you want to leave the EU, a vote for Ukip now will be a wasted vote. Brexiteers need to vote for the Brexit party on Thursday 23rd May. "
UKIP served its purpose for Farage.
The brexit party is now in cahoots with the five star movement, and the northern league and is using their big data methodology to feed its supporters the messages they want to hear, then they are going to feed you the messages they want and the supporters will be subverted.
They will call it direct democracy, beware when they say you will get a chance to vote on policy, because through clever data manipulation you’ll be playing into their hands.
But please do what you want
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tonight will be a big message to the government hopefully "
What ‘big message’ I do find it hilarious that you think the recent EU elections in this country are relevant or influential in anyway  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The Government knows people are pissed about Brexit.
Labour know people are pissed about Brexit.
Liberal Democrats know people are pissed about Brexit.
The Brexit Party know people are pissed about Brexit.
MEP's have nothing to do with Brexit.
No matter what results are regarding UK MEP elections EVERYONE knows people are pissed about Brexit...yet UK MEP's have no authority on anything Brexit related.
So what meaningful message will tonight bring that we don't already know? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Government knows people are pissed about Brexit.
Labour know people are pissed about Brexit.
Liberal Democrats know people are pissed about Brexit.
The Brexit Party know people are pissed about Brexit.
MEP's have nothing to do with Brexit.
No matter what results are regarding UK MEP elections EVERYONE knows people are pissed about Brexit...yet UK MEP's have no authority on anything Brexit related.
So what meaningful message will tonight bring that we don't already know? "
None, but the Brexit Party will make a big deal out of getting a number of MEPs and their followers will think it’s been a great result  |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"....... Being an ex history and politics teacher I find it fascinating times, also depressing when you hear terms banded around WHICH are grossly wrong. Hense the reason for the forum question. "
Cool story bro. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I used to vote UKIP, but lost patience and all faith in them as they failed to keep a proper leader, and allowed the likes of Tommy Robinson to become involved.
They will fail to get 5% of the vote in the EU elections, and will probably finish in last place. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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if all the UKip seats basically become Brexit party seats.... the magic number is 24...can we really say the "leave" side had a good night?
interesting enough... the sister party in germany "afd"... look like in their exit polls they have taken a kicking tonight,
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Europe Elects on the twitters is a handy tool once you get past all the different party initials, seems the various extreme right is down and the Greens up.
Looks like turnout is high in remain regions here too. |
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Another populist party, fronted by liars, with funding from dubious sources, to get what a few millionaires want, after they hoodwink enough mugs to vote for them, ignorant of how much their country and lives will be harmed. It's a bit like a pyramid selling scheme, decent people sucked in, bled dry, for just the odd few at the top to prosper. |
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