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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election. |
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election."
On the other hand, 4m people in work are in poverty. Way to go Tories  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This all depends if you see it a as a good thing for there to be 100% employment. On the face you'd say yes. But that means no stay at home parents.
The positive is those who decide they want to have a job can find them.
But even so, the unemployment rate has been decreasing for a number of years now so the best we can say is Brexit hasn't impacted the reduction. Real Take home Pay hasn't really increased in the past two to three years. But hours worked have shifted upwards slightly.
And if unemployment is so good then one wonders why the uproar of eus stealing our jobs. There's almost as many vacancies as unemployed so it's not from lack of supply. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If the OP is implying that somehow the unemployment figures indicate an economic boom, there are more working families living in poverty and more children being raised in poverty than ever before, 4 million million people in poverty if you want to be exact. Tory success story all round, good figures, hiding the ugly, unpalatable truth about modern Britain. |
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Looking at the unemployment rate only is not giving the full picture.
You also have to consider things like wages (which are not rising as fast as cost of living) and productivity (which is declining). |
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"If the OP is implying that somehow the unemployment figures indicate an economic boom, there are more working families living in poverty and more children being raised in poverty than ever before, 4 million million people in poverty if you want to be exact. Tory success story all round, good figures, hiding the ugly, unpalatable truth about modern Britain."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at the unemployment rate only is not giving the full picture.
You also have to consider things like wages (which are not rising as fast as cost of living) and productivity (which is declining). "
Pat never looks at the full picture  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Usually, well I say usually I mean pretty much anywhere in the world in recent history low unemployment rates are also matched by a busy job market with plenty of options and annual payrises that above inflation.
The lie of low unemployment figures doesn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny. And if zero hour contracts and to an extent the GIG economy were taken out of 'employment' figures the lie would easily be exposed. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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If the trend continues, and fewer and fewer EU nationals want to work in the UK, that will take up domestic slack.
I read this week in the Times how a Scottish holiday town is unable to find staff for the tourist season because EU nationals have not returned.
There are also severe skills shortages in key sectors and these cannot be filled by UK nationals - the domestic supply is fully deployed.
That can only get worse if the UK adopts migration policies that deter foreigners from filling shortages. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election."
I’ll say this once, job numbers are meaningless unless the value of the job and how this is improving living standards.
If not, it the tories blowing smoke up everyones arsehole. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"If the trend continues, and fewer and fewer EU nationals want to work in the UK, that will take up domestic slack.
I read this week in the Times how a Scottish holiday town is unable to find staff for the tourist season because EU nationals have not returned.
There are also severe skills shortages in key sectors and these cannot be filled by UK nationals - the domestic supply is fully deployed.
That can only get worse if the UK adopts migration policies that deter foreigners from filling shortages."
You cant blame them half the Scottish people prefer not to live in scotland they are all in England.  |
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"If the trend continues, and fewer and fewer EU nationals want to work in the UK, that will take up domestic slack.
I read this week in the Times how a Scottish holiday town is unable to find staff for the tourist season because EU nationals have not returned.
There are also severe skills shortages in key sectors and these cannot be filled by UK nationals - the domestic supply is fully deployed.
That can only get worse if the UK adopts migration policies that deter foreigners from filling shortages.You cant blame them half the Scottish people prefer not to live in scotland they are all in England. "
I'm in full employment but you pay me tax credits out of you taxes.
Do you honestly think the employment figures are a sign of success? It's b.s. too many people in part time, poorly paid or zero hours contracts. It's nothing to crow about |
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"Google it chief"
I know the answer, and I just trolling the hater who thinks its great news that the government count anyone who does more than 1 hour of paid or unpaid work or is part of a government scheme as being employed.
Remember context is king! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yeah and all uk governments do that type of figure manipulation. I remember the old YTP scheme for school leavers. Work full time, get paid the same money as the dole,(circa 30quid in 1986 figures) but not listed as an unemployment statistic... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Google it chief
I know the answer, and I just trolling the hater who thinks its great news that the government count anyone who does more than 1 hour of paid or unpaid work or is part of a government scheme as being employed.
Remember context is king!"
The OP doesn't work with context, only headlines. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"UK employment figures are drawn up by the independent Office Of National Statistics (ONS) using internationally agreed standards. "
So why do so many countries omit those on zero hour contracts? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So, employment being at an all time high due to a combination of eu nationals leaving and the figures being massaged to mask zero hour contracts and the gig economy has no bearing on this glorious moment? I guess if your idea of a good job is one where you only get paid a pittance for the work you can get and receive no in service benefits as a result but are propped up by tax credits so you can just about get by with the occasional trip to the food bank then everything is marvellous! Personally I dont agree with this concept of employment but, I think the far more important and telling issue is that investment is at an all time low and businesses are deserting the country in droves! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So, employment being at an all time high due to a combination of eu nationals leaving and the figures being massaged to mask zero hour contracts and the gig economy has no bearing on this glorious moment? I guess if your idea of a good job is one where you only get paid a pittance for the work you can get and receive no in service benefits as a result but are propped up by tax credits so you can just about get by with the occasional trip to the food bank then everything is marvellous! Personally I dont agree with this concept of employment but, I think the far more important and telling issue is that investment is at an all time low and businesses are deserting the country in droves! "
Hi. You might need to check your source data. A record number of EU nationals are working in the UK 2,381,O00. Other employees like the flexibility which zero hours contracts offer and those with low hours will be balanced out by those working longer hours .
Low unemployment is great news for everyone apart from the merchants of doom and gloom. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If the OP is implying that somehow the unemployment figures indicate an economic boom, there are more working families living in poverty and more children being raised in poverty than ever before, 4 million million people in poverty if you want to be exact. Tory success story all round, good figures, hiding the ugly, unpalatable truth about modern Britain."
It would be interesting to know what the definition of poverty is.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So, employment being at an all time high due to a combination of eu nationals leaving and the figures being massaged to mask zero hour contracts and the gig economy has no bearing on this glorious moment? I guess if your idea of a good job is one where you only get paid a pittance for the work you can get and receive no in service benefits as a result but are propped up by tax credits so you can just about get by with the occasional trip to the food bank then everything is marvellous! Personally I dont agree with this concept of employment but, I think the far more important and telling issue is that investment is at an all time low and businesses are deserting the country in droves! "
. Last time I checked lots of European investors were investing in UK companies . I cannot see any evidence of businesses deserting the UK in droves ? .The stock market is also performing well and dividend payouts are close to an all time high.
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"Do you know the DWP definition of 'employment'?"
The unemployment statistics and definitions are harmonised throughout the EU under EU directives, in order that figures across the EU are comparable with each other....this harmonisation includes coding and classification of employment and unemployment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If official figures are reliable, why is it productivity is down?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/unemployment-in-the-uk-is-now-so-low-its-in-danger-of-exposing-the-lie-used-to-create-the-numbers-2017-7 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So, employment being at an all time high due to a combination of eu nationals leaving and the figures being massaged to mask zero hour contracts and the gig economy has no bearing on this glorious moment? I guess if your idea of a good job is one where you only get paid a pittance for the work you can get and receive no in service benefits as a result but are propped up by tax credits so you can just about get by with the occasional trip to the food bank then everything is marvellous! Personally I dont agree with this concept of employment but, I think the far more important and telling issue is that investment is at an all time low and businesses are deserting the country in droves! Hi. You might need to check your source data. A record number of EU nationals are working in the UK 2,381,O00. Other employees like the flexibility which zero hours contracts offer and those with low hours will be balanced out by those working longer hours .
Low unemployment is great news for everyone apart from the merchants of doom and gloom. "
Bullshit. Everyone I know on zero hours hates it.
A family member went from zero hours to contracted 3 days a week 3 months ago, she was over the moon, acted like how I did when I got my first professional job. 3 months on she's looking for full time as she only feels marginally more valued. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So, employment being at an all time high due to a combination of eu nationals leaving and the figures being massaged to mask zero hour contracts and the gig economy has no bearing on this glorious moment? I guess if your idea of a good job is one where you only get paid a pittance for the work you can get and receive no in service benefits as a result but are propped up by tax credits so you can just about get by with the occasional trip to the food bank then everything is marvellous! Personally I dont agree with this concept of employment but, I think the far more important and telling issue is that investment is at an all time low and businesses are deserting the country in droves! . Last time I checked lots of European investors were investing in UK companies . I cannot see any evidence of businesses deserting the UK in droves ? .The stock market is also performing well and dividend payouts are close to an all time high. "
So you really cannot see anything wrong with the direction this country is heading? It seems very peculiar to me that anyone could be quite as emotionally sterile and detached as yourself - very strange. |
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"The unemployment statistics and definitions are harmonised throughout the EU under EU directives, in order that figures across the EU are comparable with each other....this harmonisation includes coding and classification of employment and unemployment."
Wrong. Unemployment is harmonised, employment is not. You are classed as employed (paid or unpaid) if you work more than ONE HOUR A WEEK! This includes being on government courses or being a carer of a disabled relative. If you don't believe me the rules used by the DWP and ONS to arrive at their statistics is published on their web page. By the way the figures are extrapolated from results gained from 'employers' who fill out and return a voluntary survey to the ONS after being selected to participate.
And just in case your wondering how I know this, I was interested enough in the numbers to do the search and find out how they were arrived at! Maybe you would do well to repeat my effort before making statements that are false. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"The unemployment statistics and definitions are harmonised throughout the EU under EU directives, in order that figures across the EU are comparable with each other....this harmonisation includes coding and classification of employment and unemployment.
Wrong. Unemployment is harmonised, employment is not. You are classed as employed (paid or unpaid) if you work more than ONE HOUR A WEEK! This includes being on government courses or being a carer of a disabled relative. If you don't believe me the rules used by the DWP and ONS to arrive at their statistics is published on their web page. By the way the figures are extrapolated from results gained from 'employers' who fill out and return a voluntary survey to the ONS after being selected to participate.
And just in case your wondering how I know this, I was interested enough in the numbers to do the search and find out how they were arrived at! Maybe you would do well to repeat my effort before making statements that are false."
The definition of employment and unemployment is that used by the ILO. The LFS is used as stipulated by the EU to measure both employment and unemployment. It comes under EU directives....which are part of the legal framework of the EU.
From Jonathan Athow, Deputy National Statistician for Economic Statistics;
"The Office for National Statistics (ONS) provides statistics on those working and out of work. We get this information from a very large survey of households called the Labour Force Survey....
As with many of our statistics, we use internationally agreed definitions. For employment figures, we use those set out by the International Labour Organisation."
And from the ONS;
"The LFS is carried out under European Union Regulations, which are discussed and agreed by all
Member States of the European Union.......
The Regulations specify the way in which the survey should be conducted, the quality of the
results that Member States supply..."
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Check out:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/surveys/informationforhouseholdsandindividuals/householdandindividualsurveys/labourforcesurvey
Section 7 is the first you need to read.
Then go to:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/methodologies/aguidetolabourmarketstatistics
And read Section 3, the definition of BEING EMPLOYED!
Note how I supply links to the ONS web pages and even spoon feed you where to find the information in order to back up my assertions, rather than taking parts of sentences without reference or context in an attempt to prove black is white. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If the OP is implying that somehow the unemployment figures indicate an economic boom, there are more working families living in poverty and more children being raised in poverty than ever before, 4 million million people in poverty if you want to be exact. Tory success story all round, good figures, hiding the ugly, unpalatable truth about modern Britain. It would be interesting to know what the definition of poverty is. "
Would be interesting to know what the definition of idiot is x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The unemployment statistics and definitions are harmonised throughout the EU under EU directives, in order that figures across the EU are comparable with each other....this harmonisation includes coding and classification of employment and unemployment.
Wrong. Unemployment is harmonised, employment is not. You are classed as employed (paid or unpaid) if you work more than ONE HOUR A WEEK! This includes being on government courses or being a carer of a disabled relative. If you don't believe me the rules used by the DWP and ONS to arrive at their statistics is published on their web page. By the way the figures are extrapolated from results gained from 'employers' who fill out and return a voluntary survey to the ONS after being selected to participate.
And just in case your wondering how I know this, I was interested enough in the numbers to do the search and find out how they were arrived at! Maybe you would do well to repeat my effort before making statements that are false.
The definition of employment and unemployment is that used by the ILO. The LFS is used as stipulated by the EU to measure both employment and unemployment. It comes under EU directives....which are part of the legal framework of the EU.
From Jonathan Athow, Deputy National Statistician for Economic Statistics;
"The Office for National Statistics (ONS) provides statistics on those working and out of work. We get this information from a very large survey of households called the Labour Force Survey....
As with many of our statistics, we use internationally agreed definitions. For employment figures, we use those set out by the International Labour Organisation."
And from the ONS;
"The LFS is carried out under European Union Regulations, which are discussed and agreed by all
Member States of the European Union.......
The Regulations specify the way in which the survey should be conducted, the quality of the
results that Member States supply..."
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Thanks for this. It is useful and informative to have the definition defined. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Check out:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/surveys/informationforhouseholdsandindividuals/householdandindividualsurveys/labourforcesurvey
Section 7 is the first you need to read.
Then go to:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/methodologies/aguidetolabourmarketstatistics
And read Section 3, the definition of BEING EMPLOYED!
Note how I supply links to the ONS web pages and even spoon feed you where to find the information in order to back up my assertions, rather than taking parts of sentences without reference or context in an attempt to prove black is white."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So, employment being at an all time high due to a combination of eu nationals leaving and the figures being massaged to mask zero hour contracts and the gig economy has no bearing on this glorious moment? I guess if your idea of a good job is one where you only get paid a pittance for the work you can get and receive no in service benefits as a result but are propped up by tax credits so you can just about get by with the occasional trip to the food bank then everything is marvellous! Personally I dont agree with this concept of employment but, I think the far more important and telling issue is that investment is at an all time low and businesses are deserting the country in droves! . Last time I checked lots of European investors were investing in UK companies . I cannot see any evidence of businesses deserting the UK in droves ? .The stock market is also performing well and dividend payouts are closer to an all time high. "
So err, when was the last time you checked? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"The unemployment statistics and definitions are harmonised throughout the EU under EU directives, in order that figures across the EU are comparable with each other....this harmonisation includes coding and classification of employment and unemployment.
Wrong. Unemployment is harmonised, employment is not. You are classed as employed (paid or unpaid) if you work more than ONE HOUR A WEEK! This includes being on government courses or being a carer of a disabled relative. If you don't believe me the rules used by the DWP and ONS to arrive at their statistics is published on their web page. By the way the figures are extrapolated from results gained from 'employers' who fill out and return a voluntary survey to the ONS after being selected to participate.
And just in case your wondering how I know this, I was interested enough in the numbers to do the search and find out how they were arrived at! Maybe you would do well to repeat my effort before making statements that are false.
The definition of employment and unemployment is that used by the ILO. The LFS is used as stipulated by the EU to measure both employment and unemployment. It comes under EU directives....which are part of the legal framework of the EU.
From Jonathan Athow, Deputy National Statistician for Economic Statistics;
"The Office for National Statistics (ONS) provides statistics on those working and out of work. We get this information from a very large survey of households called the Labour Force Survey....
As with many of our statistics, we use internationally agreed definitions. For employment figures, we use those set out by the International Labour Organisation."
And from the ONS;
"The LFS is carried out under European Union Regulations, which are discussed and agreed by all
Member States of the European Union.......
The Regulations specify the way in which the survey should be conducted, the quality of the
results that Member States supply..."
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This is the definition that you failed to quote. From the glossary of the EU website:
"Glossary:Employed person - LFS
In the context of the Labour force survey (LFS), an employed person is a person aged 15 and over (or 16 and over in Iceland and Norway) who during the reference week performed work - even if just for one hour a week - for pay, profit or family gain.
Alternatively, the person was not at work, but had a job or business from which he or she was temporarily absent due to illness, holiday, industrial dispute or education and training.
This definition follows guidelines of the International Labour Organization (ILO)."
So extremely high employment levels would be every person in the country working one hour a week.
We can't tell except from increased use of food banks. We can't even tell from benefit figures as the rules have been completely changed. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election."
It's great news.
How many people are in full time employment? What proportion one day a week? How many on zero hours contracts because they have no other option? How many cannot survive on their work income and need benefits?
What is your actual point?
Which "specialist" magazines do you get all of your insights from? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election.
It's great news.
How many people are in full time employment? What proportion one day a week? How many on zero hours contracts because they have no other option? How many cannot survive on their work income and need benefits?
What is your actual point?
Which "specialist" magazines do you get all of your insights from?"
Beano I think. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election.
It's great news.
How many people are in full time employment? What proportion one day a week? How many on zero hours contracts because they have no other option? How many cannot survive on their work income and need benefits?
What is your actual point?
Which "specialist" magazines do you get all of your insights from?"
I thought that the point was blatantly obvious but as you have asked the question I will answer it.
Record low levels of unemployment means that more people than ever are participating in Briains economic success .
Clearly some people would prefer not to hear about the success of the UK and it's economy. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election.
It's great news.
How many people are in full time employment? What proportion one day a week? How many on zero hours contracts because they have no other option? How many cannot survive on their work income and need benefits?
What is your actual point?
Which "specialist" magazines do you get all of your insights from? I thought that the point was blatantly obvious but as you have asked the question I will answer it.
Record low levels of unemployment means that more people than ever are participating in Briains economic success .
Clearly some people would prefer not to hear about the success of the UK and it's economy. "
I asked several questions 
If you are working one hour a week and having to claim benefits but still need to go to a food bank, are you "participating in Briains economic success"?
Which "specialist" magazines? |
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I'm not sure if i agree from someone unemployed and disabled and on jsa cause I would like to work but not full-time and a job I cannot seem to find for my needs.
But beyond that I witness some heartbroken story's at my job centre, people who have worked in got a mortgage. Only to lose their job and eventually their home. As on uc they don't get help apparently hearing the conventions.
So if you think that employment as gone up I'm afraid that you should hover around a job centre, we're it's not staged for the likes of Amber rudd and co |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election.
It's great news.
How many people are in full time employment? What proportion one day a week? How many on zero hours contracts because they have no other option? How many cannot survive on their work income and need benefits?
What is your actual point?
Which "specialist" magazines do you get all of your insights from? I thought that the point was blatantly obvious but as you have asked the question I will answer it.
Record low levels of unemployment means that more people than ever are participating in Briains economic success .
Clearly some people would prefer not to hear about the success of the UK and it's economy.
I asked several questions
If you are working one hour a week and having to claim benefits but still need to go to a food bank, are you "participating in Briains economic success"?
Which "specialist" magazines?"
News headlines and snippets don't delve into facts so I don't see any rational response coming your way anytime soon. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm not sure if i agree from someone unemployed and disabled and on jsa cause I would like to work but not full-time and a job I cannot seem to find for my needs.
But beyond that I witness some heartbroken story's at my job centre, people who have worked in got a mortgage. Only to lose their job and eventually their home. As on uc they don't get help apparently hearing the conventions.
So if you think that employment as gone up I'm afraid that you should hover around a job centre, we're it's not staged for the likes of Amber rudd and co "
I entirely agree with your point about the difficulties faced by the disabled and more needs to be done.
Many companies should be encouraged to follow the example of companies such as Network Rail and Timpson who have very well organised schemes for employing ex offenders .
I provide extensive help to someone who is housebound and disabled so hopefully have a fairly good idea of the difficulties which many people face in life . I regularly liaison with Doctors , social and care workers and various government departments.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election.
It's great news.
How many people are in full time employment? What proportion one day a week? How many on zero hours contracts because they have no other option? How many cannot survive on their work income and need benefits?
What is your actual point?
Which "specialist" magazines do you get all of your insights from? I thought that the point was blatantly obvious but as you have asked the question I will answer it.
Record low levels of unemployment means that more people than ever are participating in Briains economic success .
Clearly some people would prefer not to hear about the success of the UK and it's economy.
I asked several questions
If you are working one hour a week and having to claim benefits but still need to go to a food bank, are you "participating in Briains economic success"?
Which "specialist" magazines?
News headlines and snippets don't delve into facts so I don't see any rational response coming your way anytime soon. "
Nearly all headlines quote the facts behind them. I think what you want are facts to disprove the good news and want a few selected in isolation.
I prefer to evaluate all the facts , not just select a few to prove a case. |
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"I can report that my business is booming....even with this period of uncertainty around us ...."
I guess that is because you focus on achieving results , not listening to all the merchants of doom and gloom on here . Some posters are spending so much time on here that they are at risk of losing sight of reality.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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The rules of supply and demand tell you that a country approaching full employment will see sharp growth in wages, as employers compete to retain and recruit staff.
That is not happening. In fact, wages still have not caught up with their pre-crash levels.
So many people in work also should be driving GDP growth. That is not happening either. In fact, productivity has been stagnant for a decade.
Crude employment statistics are not a measure of prosperity.
The true number of working-age people not in gainful employment is about 21 per cent of the population.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"I am not sure if you are allowed to post good news on this forum . Employment in the UK is a record 32.7 million and joblessness just 3.8 % , its lowest since 1974.
The EU might snigger at us but they are green with envy that our continuing jobs miracle shames the struggling Eurozone.
We are simply witnessing the true success of the Conservative government and life is about to get even better once we have left the EU.
It is ironic that despite the success of government policies the government are showing a poor rating in the opinion polls .
However opinion polls are irrelevant, the only result that counts is that achieved on the day of the election.
It's great news.
How many people are in full time employment? What proportion one day a week? How many on zero hours contracts because they have no other option? How many cannot survive on their work income and need benefits?
What is your actual point?
Which "specialist" magazines do you get all of your insights from? I thought that the point was blatantly obvious but as you have asked the question I will answer it.
Record low levels of unemployment means that more people than ever are participating in Briains economic success .
Clearly some people would prefer not to hear about the success of the UK and it's economy.
I asked several questions
If you are working one hour a week and having to claim benefits but still need to go to a food bank, are you "participating in Briains economic success"?
Which "specialist" magazines?
News headlines and snippets don't delve into facts so I don't see any rational response coming your way anytime soon. Nearly all headlines quote the facts behind them. I think what you want are facts to disprove the good news and want a few selected in isolation.
I prefer to evaluate all the facts , not just select a few to prove a case. "
That's interesting.
So what is your evaluation of facts surrounding stagnant wage growth, stagnant productivity growth, benefits/tax credit claims, zero hours contracts and the increased use of food banks?
Which "specialist" magazines are you reading? |
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