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Pascal Lamy V IDS (Brexit fantasy peddler brutally exposed)

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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West

Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about.

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. "

Yes, I did think it was pretty funny. Especially, as you say, the fact he was the former chairman of the WTO. Afterwards I saw a whole slew of brexiteers saying "of course, he doesn't know what he's talking about!".... still apparently their mate Bob down the pub knows more than the former chairman of the organisation that so many leave voter think we are supposedly going to rely on to somehow make this whole clusterfuck work.

-Matt

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. "

Please remoaners sstop making fools of yourselves give up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Please remoaners sstop making fools of yourselves give up"

Ohhh bloody hell, you and tractors & trailers, Mountains and ditches, European Express or whatever his current incarnation is do go well together

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. Please remoaners sstop making fools of yourselves give up"

Oh the irony

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. Please remoaners sstop making fools of yourselves give up"

And that's all you have to say? Are you a typical Bob from pub or a his mate?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. Please remoaners sstop making fools of yourselves give up

Oh the irony "

This..

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. Please remoaners sstop making fools of yourselves give up

Oh the irony

This.. "

Sadly, it just goes over their heads

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. Please remoaners sstop making fools of yourselves give up"

The only person made to look foolish in that discussion was IDS. He was one of the worst leaders the Tory Party has ever had and now people seem to want to believe that he has the answers. The man has the brains of a rocking horse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Was this newsnight?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. "

However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Was this newsnight?"

no... its my new favourite show... politics live....

watching IDS getting taken to pieces bit by bit was a joy to behold.....

todays wasn't that far behind.. the ukip leader got taken to the woodshed by lisa nandy.....

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull "

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications "

Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

"

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can recommend "snakes and ladders " as pats next incarnation.Its all a game at the end of the day anyways.,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

"

Walk me through how this is achieved. Because if its unilateral reduction of tarrifs then (according to leave economists) wave goodbye to our farming arm manufacturing.

Cheaper food isn't a bonus if you have even lower income.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Walk me through how this is achieved. Because if its unilateral reduction of tarrifs then (according to leave economists) wave goodbye to our farming arm manufacturing.

Cheaper food isn't a bonus if you have even lower income. "

Well I suppose if it all goes tits up we could just sell everything off....you know a fire sale kind of thing....oh but hang on a minute....we did that already, we are in hock up to our eyeballs and the coffers are empty! Oh well better start taxing the poor again....at least thats one part of the economy that’s getting larger

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

"

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

"

And you know f*ck all about economics.

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face . "

If you said this in the real world I'd still tell you were talking bollox

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face . "

the problem is pat is that you have heard a soundbite, but know no detail...

so how do you propose that food prices become cheaper... you would have to get rid of protectionary tariffs.... if you get rid of protectionary tariffs it would decimate the uk agriculture and manufacturing industries....

who says that...... professor patrick minford and his "Economists for brexit" group

even your own economists acknowledge that is a bad idea.... unless you that "that" is the price worth paying for your brexit utopia......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face . "

I'd happily say anything I'd say here to someone face to face. In fact it's preferred as it's harder to skirt over a counter argument than on a thread where one can give the impression of being engaged but I'm fact only address a handful of posts and skip the ones which are more problematic to their view on the world.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

"

This idea that we could reduce tariffs to zero is as much a fallacious argument as the £350 million we could spend on the NHS. It's both false in substance and in reality too. It's false in substantial because, even if we could reduce all tariffs to zero there's very few saying we should and absolutely none saying we would. It's false in reality because, if we did, it contradicts the whole point of BREXIT, which is to get better free trade deals with the rest of the world, because no one is going to give us a free trade deal if they've already got tariff free trade with us because we've reduced all tariffs to zero. The reality is is that we could but we won't because we really can't.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face . "

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

"

How do the higher import tarrifs of upto 35% help the poor Pat?

How do far higher exporting tarrifs help our manufacturers?

If trading only on WTO is so much better why is there only 1 country in the whole world doing so?

Do they and you know something the rest of the world doesn't?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. "

Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff

So we’re agreed, Brexit will not help the poor, the cost of living will go up, job prospects will be poorer but we will have ‘taken back control’ - but because we are in a weak position we won’t be able to negotiate any good deals with major trading blocks, so this control will be illusory at best

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success ) "

From your last post with regard to lower food prices people have asked you exactly how that would happen, instead of just throwing that out as a soundbite.....

you deliberately seem to have avoided answering the question... and gone on an "oh woe is me" rant......

so let me ask you another question pat...

if we go down the zero tariff route and get rid of all ours post brexit, then what incentive is there for any country to come back and offer a trade deal, you have given them everything they want and given up nothing?

oh... and if you could answer the agriculture point as well as several people made.... is the decimation of uk farming and manufacturing (which even economists who are in favour of brexit concede) the price worth paying for your brexit utopia?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success ) "

It appears that there have been some detailed explanations of why and how your proposals would not achieve what you state they will. Irrespective of whether anyone perceives another as limited in their perspective, good analytical counter debate is helpful, so that we all better understand the potential for a proposal to become reality.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success ) "

I understood from previous posts that you were a fan of Donald Trump, who is apparently a success, yet he is one of the most unpleasant and abrasive individuals on the planet, which rather runs counter to your last statement. Perhaps you could explain what you meant as I am struggling to find any logic in your viewpoint.

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By *ou only live onceMan  over a year ago

London


"

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

From your last post with regard to lower food prices people have asked you exactly how that would happen, instead of just throwing that out as a soundbite.....

you deliberately seem to have avoided answering the question... and gone on an "oh woe is me" rant......

so let me ask you another question pat...

if we go down the zero tariff route and get rid of all ours post brexit, then what incentive is there for any country to come back and offer a trade deal, you have given them everything they want and given up nothing?

oh... and if you could answer the agriculture point as well as several people made.... is the decimation of uk farming and manufacturing (which even economists who are in favour of brexit concede) the price worth paying for your brexit utopia?"

Head and brick wall comes to mind, but well done for preserving, Fabio.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success ) "

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. "

Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing. "

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess "

He only has that opinion because he's read it and believed it and not looked to see if it adds up then mix that with voting to change the entire financial landscape of the nation based on the former.

Quite unbelievable but unfortunately true

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing. "

So, to paraphrase, you can spout utter bollocks, fail to back it up, get arsey with those who criticise you because it's an opinion and opinions don't need any sort of empirical evidence......utterly bizarre.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess "

Prior to voting I sat down at my kitten table and used three key bits of information on which to base my decision. However as with many things in life information is only a guide.

With the benefit of hindsight I am extemelly relieved that I ignored all the warnings of project fear.

Pedlars of doom and gloom have no part to play in the society in which I wish to live .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

And people with their head in the sand can't see straight..

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


" Prior to voting I sat down at my kitten table and used three key bits of information on which to base my decision. However as with many things in life information is only a guide.

With the benefit of hindsight I am extemelly relieved that I ignored all the warnings of project fear.

Pedlars of doom and gloom have no part to play in the society in which I wish to live . "

.... bully for you pat.... but that just soundbites because you can't back up what you said....

did anyone bring up the claim of lower food prices post brexit before you did... nope

and when anyone has asked you in the thread how and if you can back that up... you spout nonsense like the stuff above!

so..... how about actually answering the questions that were put to you because of your claims!!!!

can you back up the lower food prices claim... if so, where?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

So, to paraphrase, you can spout utter bollocks, fail to back it up, get arsey with those who criticise you because it's an opinion and opinions don't need any sort of empirical evidence......utterly bizarre."

Or maybe to express it in anothèr way manners count , everyone is entitled to an opinion and if the source is a reliable one facts and figures are not necessary to back it up .

Many prominent members of leave run very successfull businesses . Their track record is more than good enough for me .

Is any rational person going to spend time posting facts and figures on a forum such as this during working hours ?

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff

Did you mean the successful business men who have shifted their businesses overseas to avoid disruption and tax?

Come on, stop making it so easy. There is absolutely nothing in our favour from leaving.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess Prior to voting I sat down at my kitten table and used three key bits of information on which to base my decision. However as with many things in life information is only a guide.

With the benefit of hindsight I am extemelly relieved that I ignored all the warnings of project fear.

Pedlars of doom and gloom have no part to play in the society in which I wish to live . "

Which three bits of information?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Did you mean the successful business men who have shifted their businesses overseas to avoid disruption and tax?

Come on, stop making it so easy. There is absolutely nothing in our favour from leaving."

Hmm

Dyson, makes nothing here anymore

Tim Martin, can sell any cheap booze from anywhere

JCB, majority of business / sales is in the far east / India, China now

Next, around 95% of factories they use are from child labour type slave countries like China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia etc

They are your prominent successful patriotic UK businesses that support Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

So, to paraphrase, you can spout utter bollocks, fail to back it up, get arsey with those who criticise you because it's an opinion and opinions don't need any sort of empirical evidence......utterly bizarre. Or maybe to express it in anothèr way manners count , everyone is entitled to an opinion and if the source is a reliable one facts and figures are not necessary to back it up .

Many prominent members of leave run very successfull businesses . Their track record is more than good enough for me .

Is any rational person going to spend time posting facts and figures on a forum such as this during working hours ? "

Many prominent remainers run successful businesses. Why isn't their track record enough for you?

On all sides it feels people put more weight i those who support their gut feel. Rather than hear different views and taking a balanced views.

One of the joys of this forum is I've read more sources from economists which are pro leave. Such as the other thread (assuming he is an economist)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" if the source is a reliable one facts and figures are not necessary to back it up .

"

Without even a brief cursory glance behind any stated "facts", how on earth can you gauge the source to be a reliable one?

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

So, to paraphrase, you can spout utter bollocks, fail to back it up, get arsey with those who criticise you because it's an opinion and opinions don't need any sort of empirical evidence......utterly bizarre. Or maybe to express it in anothèr way manners count , everyone is entitled to an opinion and if the source is a reliable one facts and figures are not necessary to back it up .

Many prominent members of leave run very successfull businesses . Their track record is more than good enough for me .

Is any rational person going to spend time posting facts and figures on a forum such as this during working hours ? "

Many prominent business people think that Brexit will cripple their businesses....their track record apparently doesn't count?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

So, to paraphrase, you can spout utter bollocks, fail to back it up, get arsey with those who criticise you because it's an opinion and opinions don't need any sort of empirical evidence......utterly bizarre. Or maybe to express it in anothèr way manners count , everyone is entitled to an opinion and if the source is a reliable one facts and figures are not necessary to back it up .

Many prominent members of leave run very successfull businesses . Their track record is more than good enough for me .

Is any rational person going to spend time posting facts and figures on a forum such as this during working hours ?

Many prominent business people think that Brexit will cripple their businesses....their track record apparently doesn't count?

"

If it is going to cripple their business it is news to me. A few tweaks to duties will hardly made any difference .

If the stock market collapsed let me know.

It is only on this forum that people think it will harm business.

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff

Car industry and sub contractors screwed, aircraft manufacture and space screwed, university sector screwed, financial services sector screwed, farming sector screwed, fishing sector screwed (see large trawler in the Thames last week), airline and hospitality sector screwed.

Who is doing well as a result of Brexit?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess Prior to voting I sat down at my kitten table and used three key bits of information on which to base my decision. However as with many things in life information is only a guide.

With the benefit of hindsight I am extemelly relieved that I ignored all the warnings of project fear.

Pedlars of doom and gloom have no part to play in the society in which I wish to live . "

If dealing with reality is really that difficult for you then, I don't know, perhaps you would be better off finding a society that fits your worldview?

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If dealing with reality is really that difficult for you then, I don't know, perhaps you would be better off finding a society that fits your worldview?

"

Maybe... Flat Earth society...

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

So, to paraphrase, you can spout utter bollocks, fail to back it up, get arsey with those who criticise you because it's an opinion and opinions don't need any sort of empirical evidence......utterly bizarre. Or maybe to express it in anothèr way manners count , everyone is entitled to an opinion and if the source is a reliable one facts and figures are not necessary to back it up .

Many prominent members of leave run very successfull businesses . Their track record is more than good enough for me .

Is any rational person going to spend time posting facts and figures on a forum such as this during working hours ?

Many prominent business people think that Brexit will cripple their businesses....their track record apparently doesn't count?

If it is going to cripple their business it is news to me. A few tweaks to duties will hardly made any difference .

If the stock market collapsed let me know.

It is only on this forum that people think it will harm business."

In the real world of economic impact assessments, Brexit will leave businesses worse off. Just because you haven't heard anything about it, doesn't make it fake news. It does suggest that you perhaps ought to widen your reading a tad

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

So, to paraphrase, you can spout utter bollocks, fail to back it up, get arsey with those who criticise you because it's an opinion and opinions don't need any sort of empirical evidence......utterly bizarre. Or maybe to express it in anothèr way manners count , everyone is entitled to an opinion and if the source is a reliable one facts and figures are not necessary to back it up .

Many prominent members of leave run very successfull businesses . Their track record is more than good enough for me .

Is any rational person going to spend time posting facts and figures on a forum such as this during working hours ?

Many prominent business people think that Brexit will cripple their businesses....their track record apparently doesn't count?

If it is going to cripple their business it is news to me. A few tweaks to duties will hardly made any difference .

If the stock market collapsed let me know.

It is only on this forum that people think it will harm business.

In the real world of economic impact assessments, Brexit will leave businesses worse off. Just because you haven't heard anything about it, doesn't make it fake news. It does suggest that you perhaps ought to widen your reading a tad"

Nicely put!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess Prior to voting I sat down at my kitten table and used three key bits of information on which to base my decision. However as with many things in life information is only a guide.

With the benefit of hindsight I am extemelly relieved that I ignored all the warnings of project fear.

Pedlars of doom and gloom have no part to play in the society in which I wish to live .

If dealing with reality is really that difficult for you then, I don't know, perhaps you would be better off finding a society that fits your worldview? "

Hi. Most people prefer solutions to problems . Why would anyone go ther listening to the merchants of doom and gloom? I prefer positive people with a can do attitude .In any event I have sufficient information from a variety of different sources with quantifiable performance measures in order to assess how things are going. Hope this answers your question.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

So, to paraphrase, you can spout utter bollocks, fail to back it up, get arsey with those who criticise you because it's an opinion and opinions don't need any sort of empirical evidence......utterly bizarre. Or maybe to express it in anothèr way manners count , everyone is entitled to an opinion and if the source is a reliable one facts and figures are not necessary to back it up .

Many prominent members of leave run very successfull businesses . Their track record is more than good enough for me .

Is any rational person going to spend time posting facts and figures on a forum such as this during working hours ?

Many prominent business people think that Brexit will cripple their businesses....their track record apparently doesn't count?

If it is going to cripple their business it is news to me. A few tweaks to duties will hardly made any difference .

If the stock market collapsed let me know.

It is only on this forum that people think it will harm business.

In the real world of economic impact assessments, Brexit will leave businesses worse off. Just because you haven't heard anything about it, doesn't make it fake news. It does suggest that you perhaps ought to widen your reading a tad"

It would be interesting to know how you have come to that conclusion. A few tweaks to duties will hardly male any difference .

Unless I have missed something obvious share prices have not fallen in line with you gloomy predictions. In addition unemployment is at an all time low.

There is however a serious threat to our economic future - the possible election of a Labour Government.

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By *ethnmelvCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess Prior to voting I sat down at my kitten table and used three key bits of information on which to base my decision. However as with many things in life information is only a guide.

With the benefit of hindsight I am extemelly relieved that I ignored all the warnings of project fear.

Pedlars of doom and gloom have no part to play in the society in which I wish to live .

If dealing with reality is really that difficult for you then, I don't know, perhaps you would be better off finding a society that fits your worldview? Hi. Most people prefer solutions to problems . Why would anyone go ther listening to the merchants of doom and gloom? I prefer positive people with a can do attitude .In any event I have sufficient information from a variety of different sources with quantifiable performance measures in order to assess how things are going. Hope this answers your question. "

Could you share your sources, it might help the rest of us?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

.

There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess Prior to voting I sat down at my kitten table and used three key bits of information on which to base my decision. However as with many things in life information is only a guide.

With the benefit of hindsight I am extemelly relieved that I ignored all the warnings of project fear.

Pedlars of doom and gloom have no part to play in the society in which I wish to live .

If dealing with reality is really that difficult for you then, I don't know, perhaps you would be better off finding a society that fits your worldview? Hi. Most people prefer solutions to problems . Why would anyone go ther listening to the merchants of doom and gloom? I prefer positive people with a can do attitude .In any event I have sufficient information from a variety of different sources with quantifiable performance measures in order to assess how things are going. Hope this answers your question. "

Would you care to name these sources of information? I am interested to know where you source this information from because being as I am, a natural sceptic I would like to be enlightened and join in the positivity. Care to enlighten me?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Anyone else see the humiliation of IDS trying to “sell” his simple Brexit resolution that is in fact based on pure fantasy? Pascal Lamy, former Chairman of the WTO made it clear what he thought about Ian Duncan Smiths nonsensical ideas in both words and gestures.

It is high time more of these Brexit Charlatans were similarly embarrassed by people who actually know what they are talking about. However it does not really matter how you perform in discussions or for that matter what you write .

It is the end result that counts - who is going to worry about a small amount of humiliation along the way.

Ian Duncan Smith is probably a lot bettèr qualified to make decisions on these matters than anyone who spends a lot of time posting on these forums.

To date no one is able to explain how being a member of the EU helps the UK yet are happy to pour scorn on viable alternatives which will help the less well off in society

From memory IDS has a professional qualification as well as considerable political experience.

He has decided to back a winner ( just like. AB Dynamics , the Dart Group , IQE or Blue Prism ).

No one feels embarrassed about making the UK more successfull

I’m sorry but you are being an idiot, nothing about Brexit will help the less well off in society! & by the way I have several Professional Qualifications Like it or not , lower food and clothes prices as a result of leaving on WTO terms will help the poor..

Pat you are talking complete and utter nonsense..

I guess to you yes and you are entitled to express an opinion.

It does seem odd though that those who are so keen to help the less well off become extemelly angry when a solution is proposed.

By being in the EU we are paying more for both our food and clothing that if we were non members.

Luckily anything posted on a forum.such as this is irrelevant in real what.

What matters is the feedback that you receive in the real world and how you react to it.

Keyboard warriors exist all over the world typing comments on topics on the internet that they would not dare say to someone's face .

Pat I've met and managed people like you and believe you me I've told them they were talking nonsense, often the language was a tad more industrial but you get the drift..

In fact if your anything near the persona you project on here and some of your previous posts then I'm pretty confident you've been on the end of such.. Like it or not not many people would tell someone in real life that they were taking nonsense. On a simplistic basis not many people talk nonsense ( why would they ). Just because you disagree with someone's opinion does not mean that they are taking nonsense.

The feedback that matters is that which you receive in real life from employers and clients .

Anyone can spend two seconds of their life typing a response that someone is talking nonsense. Apart from being rather meaningless it shows a distinct lack of manners .

A constructive counter argument would be more productive.

There is a clique of members on here who seem to enjoy making negative comments against other members .

I can only assume that members of this clique are dissatisfied with their own lives and resort to taking their frustrations out on others .

People who are successfull in life do not criticise others , they concentrate on the factors that drive success. ( and I am not referring just to financial success )

You've been talking nonsense most of the time you've been here in my opinion, others may not think so or be as straight talking but you have been asked constantly to back up what you claim..

But as usual when asked to you revert back to its only an opinion and not real life so my suggestion is either back up or stop posting nonsense perhaps as your lack of any information or evidence to support your opinion speaks volumes.. Hello. I was unaware of the fact that it was necessary to post back up to an opinion..

If anyone wanted a detailed analysis of a particular scenario I do not think that they would be searching for it on this forum

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There are scenarios in real life where research may be beneficial , it is hardly the case in this forum.

Some of the best decisions that I have made in life are based on gut reaction.

You can spend so much time doing research that you achieve nothing.

I took your opinion that wto would benefit the poorer parts of society as having some basis. Rather than just a gut feel based on nothing.

I also see the views we have on the forum as being indicative of our views in real life and its these views which directed how we vote etc.

But you may have voted with your gut and zero research I guess Prior to voting I sat down at my kitten table and used three key bits of information on which to base my decision. However as with many things in life information is only a guide.

With the benefit of hindsight I am extemelly relieved that I ignored all the warnings of project fear.

Pedlars of doom and gloom have no part to play in the society in which I wish to live .

If dealing with reality is really that difficult for you then, I don't know, perhaps you would be better off finding a society that fits your worldview? Hi. Most people prefer solutions to problems . Why would anyone go ther listening to the merchants of doom and gloom? I prefer positive people with a can do attitude .In any event I have sufficient information from a variety of different sources with quantifiable performance measures in order to assess how things are going. Hope this answers your question.

Would you care to name these sources of information? I am interested to know where you source this information from because being as I am, a natural sceptic I would like to be enlightened and join in the positivity. Care to enlighten me?"

You're quite new to this forum but I can tell you now, he won't give you his source, he never does.

Pat, which is his name, has been on this forum for years and always talks about his special sources of information. That's how we know it's him, even though he constantly removes his profile and starts a new one.

It's a bit of a forum joke amongst the regulars here.

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