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By *ethnmelv OP Couple
over a year ago
Cardiff |
So it seems tha Lynton Crosby’s CTF Partners have spent £1m on secretive ‘grass roots’ targeted adds on Facebook. This is the man who part funds and works with BJ and Stewart Jackson. The purpose was to pretend they were a grass roots campaign to get people to write/email to their MPs to support the Brexit leave position. It seems the ‘establishment’ are playing us all.
If it wasn’t for this underhand manipulation trying to encourage people they were in a majority, would we be in a different position now?
Whois paying for us all to be deceived, ultimately clearly all of us, but who is funding this? (Source Guardian,) |
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We'll likely never know who all of these secretive - when it suits them - people are that continue to lie, defraud and undermine democracy in the UK. The referendum was so seriously abused by illegal activity, with Theresa May not seemingly caring one bit, that you may as well forget the conservatives being a party for decency, law and order etc.
Obviously other states are active to gain advantage over the UK and yet individuals and groups associated with the conservatives are very active in working to get the legal, political and economic changes imposed onto citizens that are likely not in their interests.
There probably should be many active conservative politicians disqualified from public office. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
There's nothing new under the sun.
Vested interests have sought to manipulate the decision-making process since time began.
Just look at the size of the lobbying industry around Westminster - a.k.a. public affairs consultancies, communication agencies etc.
Whereas once these vested interests would use the media of TV and newspapers to influence voters, now they can reach them directly via the internet.
The technology and method has changed, but the practice is as old as the hills.
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By *ethnmelv OP Couple
over a year ago
Cardiff |
"There's nothing new under the sun.
Vested interests have sought to manipulate the decision-making process since time began.
Just look at the size of the lobbying industry around Westminster - a.k.a. public affairs consultancies, communication agencies etc.
Whereas once these vested interests would use the media of TV and newspapers to influence voters, now they can reach them directly via the internet.
The technology and method has changed, but the practice is as old as the hills.
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Maybe so, but when it is directly used to manipulate millions of people it is a lot more dystopian. We should ensure that Facebook et al have to publish who funds political advertising. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
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Maybe so, but when it is directly used to manipulate millions of people it is a lot more dystopian. We should ensure that Facebook et al have to publish who funds political advertising. "
These people have manipulating millions of people for years, via the mainstream media.
Social media lets them by-pass the mainstream media and speak directly to you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They've been on fab for years also. Someone sent me a mail saying 'vote remain' and added a cock pic....on closer inspection it was a photo of Jezz Corbyn. Well that was it for me! I marched straight to the polling station and voted for Macron. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it."
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt" What possible difference does this make?
We had a referendum and one side one .
There is little point in analysing this now.
The time to campaign and make points was during the campaign and not after it.
The winning side was that which ran the best organised campaign and one which represented the opinions of the majority of the population.
In am not quite certain why anyone would pay any attention to what a barrister has to say in court . They are hardly the driving forces behind many of the highly success businesses in the UK which keep us all in employment or generate enough dividend income in order to pay pensioners their pensions.
A win is a win regardless of circumstances. |
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By *ethnmelv OP Couple
over a year ago
Cardiff |
"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt What possible difference does this make?
We had a referendum and one side one .
There is little point in analysing this now.
The time to campaign and make points was during the campaign and not after it.
The winning side was that which ran the best organised campaign and one which represented the opinions of the majority of the population.
In am not quite certain why anyone would pay any attention to what a barrister has to say in court . They are hardly the driving forces behind many of the highly success businesses in the UK which keep us all in employment or generate enough dividend income in order to pay pensioners their pensions.
A win is a win regardless of circumstances."
The Liars won & said barristers will get them soon. A democracy isn’t just about who gets the most votes (in an advisory vote), it is based on trust and it is clear we have been gamed by Brexiteers. No matter what the result, the people peddling the lies should be held to account. Surely you would agree to that? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt What possible difference does this make?
We had a referendum and one side one .
There is little point in analysing this now.
The time to campaign and make points was during the campaign and not after it.
The winning side was that which ran the best organised campaign and one which represented the opinions of the majority of the population.
In am not quite certain why anyone would pay any attention to what a barrister has to say in court . They are hardly the driving forces behind many of the highly success businesses in the UK which keep us all in employment or generate enough dividend income in order to pay pensioners their pensions.
A win is a win regardless of circumstances."
"A win is a win regardless of circumstances".
So regardless of our democracy being run roughshod over, deliberate criminal acts taking place to subvert our political system and our country. But regardless of all that, any hole's a goal for you?
I am now starting to believe that you are just a paid agitator... just a very rubbish, unsubtle one.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt What possible difference does this make?
We had a referendum and one side one .
There is little point in analysing this now.
The time to campaign and make points was during the campaign and not after it.
The winning side was that which ran the best organised campaign and one which represented the opinions of the majority of the population.
In am not quite certain why anyone would pay any attention to what a barrister has to say in court . They are hardly the driving forces behind many of the highly success businesses in the UK which keep us all in employment or generate enough dividend income in order to pay pensioners their pensions.
A win is a win regardless of circumstances."
Interesting - so you believe fraudulent claims and dishonesty are acceptable in a modern democratic nation and by defending corrupt practices and denigrating the PM’s QC ( Queens Counsel ) you are a winner! No fool like an old fool is there! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt What possible difference does this make?
We had a referendum and one side one .
There is little point in analysing this now.
The time to campaign and make points was during the campaign and not after it.
The winning side was that which ran the best organised campaign and one which represented the opinions of the majority of the population.
In am not quite certain why anyone would pay any attention to what a barrister has to say in court . They are hardly the driving forces behind many of the highly success businesses in the UK which keep us all in employment or generate enough dividend income in order to pay pensioners their pensions.
A win is a win regardless of circumstances.
"A win is a win regardless of circumstances".
So regardless of our democracy being run roughshod over, deliberate criminal acts taking place to subvert our political system and our country. But regardless of all that, any hole's a goal for you?
I am now starting to believe that you are just a paid agitator... just a very rubbish, unsubtle one.
-Matt"
Where is Centy these days? I imagine he is still turning right, and forever lost in the dense fog of his imagination |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-has-cost-economy-550-million-a-week-since-referendum-report-finds-a4109216.html
For those who think it's going well have a look at this! Instead of saving £350m per week, we're spending £550m per week, so our sovereignty is costing £200m per week - now that's what I call project fear! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt What possible difference does this make?
We had a referendum and one side one .
There is little point in analysing this now.
The time to campaign and make points was during the campaign and not after it.
The winning side was that which ran the best organised campaign and one which represented the opinions of the majority of the population.
In am not quite certain why anyone would pay any attention to what a barrister has to say in court . They are hardly the driving forces behind many of the highly success businesses in the UK which keep us all in employment or generate enough dividend income in order to pay pensioners their pensions.
A win is a win regardless of circumstances.
Interesting - so you believe fraudulent claims and dishonesty are acceptable in a modern democratic nation and by defending corrupt practices and denigrating the PM’s QC ( Queens Counsel ) you are a winner! No fool like an old fool is there! " Who said anything about fraudulent claims and dishonesty?
My understanding is that there was a referendum , votes counted and a result declared .
No one has put forward any creditable evidence to invalidate the result. |
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"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt What possible difference does this make?
We had a referendum and one side one .
There is little point in analysing this now.
The time to campaign and make points was during the campaign and not after it.
The winning side was that which ran the best organised campaign and one which represented the opinions of the majority of the population.
In am not quite certain why anyone would pay any attention to what a barrister has to say in court . They are hardly the driving forces behind many of the highly success businesses in the UK which keep us all in employment or generate enough dividend income in order to pay pensioners their pensions.
A win is a win regardless of circumstances.
Interesting - so you believe fraudulent claims and dishonesty are acceptable in a modern democratic nation and by defending corrupt practices and denigrating the PM’s QC ( Queens Counsel ) you are a winner! No fool like an old fool is there! Who said anything about fraudulent claims and dishonesty?
My understanding is that there was a referendum , votes counted and a result declared .
No one has put forward any creditable evidence to invalidate the result. "
Yes they have. If the referendum had been legally binding the result would have been overturned. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt What possible difference does this make?
We had a referendum and one side one .
There is little point in analysing this now.
The time to campaign and make points was during the campaign and not after it.
The winning side was that which ran the best organised campaign and one which represented the opinions of the majority of the population.
In am not quite certain why anyone would pay any attention to what a barrister has to say in court . They are hardly the driving forces behind many of the highly success businesses in the UK which keep us all in employment or generate enough dividend income in order to pay pensioners their pensions.
A win is a win regardless of circumstances.
Interesting - so you believe fraudulent claims and dishonesty are acceptable in a modern democratic nation and by defending corrupt practices and denigrating the PM’s QC ( Queens Counsel ) you are a winner! No fool like an old fool is there! Who said anything about fraudulent claims and dishonesty?
My understanding is that there was a referendum , votes counted and a result declared .
No one has put forward any creditable evidence to invalidate the result. "
Yeah but your understanding of shit is dubious at best. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-has-cost-economy-550-million-a-week-since-referendum-report-finds-a4109216.html
For those who think it's going well have a look at this! Instead of saving £350m per week, we're spending £550m per week, so our sovereignty is costing £200m per week - now that's what I call project fear!"
Goldman Sachs estimated it to be £700m per week
Bank of England estimated £900m per week.
In any case. Flushing the UK down the bog is an expensive business. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt" It hardly matters what a barrister representing one person in court say. They are simply in court to earn money.
What matters is what the electorate wants .
We had a referendum and a result was declared. It seems very straight forward to me.
Unless a lot of people made fraudulent registrations to vote there is nothing to discuss . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"& now being formally investigated by the ICO, so this might get a bit pointy. It has to be good that we are looking at manipulation and trying to lessen it.
The fact that James Eadie QC *representing Theresa May* stated in court *unchallenged* that Brexit had met the threshold for illegality. And that had it had been legally binding there would be statutory means by which it would be annulled. But the only reason it is not (cannot) be is because it was not binding, and only advisory.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Especially all of you bleating on about 'we won, get over it'.
May's *own QC* has stated that they think that Brexit would have been illegal, but only due to the fact that it was not legally binding has it been able to continue without being annulled.
So May's *own barrister* in court has admitted as defence for May that yes, it would be deemed illegal, but she is OK because it was not legally binding.
Her. Own. Barrister.
-Matt It hardly matters what a barrister representing one person in court say. They are simply in court to earn money.
What matters is what the electorate wants .
We had a referendum and a result was declared. It seems very straight forward to me.
Unless a lot of people made fraudulent registrations to vote there is nothing to discuss . "
People like Coldplay and voted for he nazis. You can’t trust people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So it seems tha Lynton Crosby’s CTF Partners have spent £1m on secretive ‘grass roots’ targeted adds on Facebook. This is the man who part funds and works with BJ and Stewart Jackson. The purpose was to pretend they were a grass roots campaign to get people to write/email to their MPs to support the Brexit leave position. It seems the ‘establishment’ are playing us all.
If it wasn’t for this underhand manipulation trying to encourage people they were in a majority, would we be in a different position now?
Whois paying for us all to be deceived, ultimately clearly all of us, but who is funding this? (Source Guardian,)"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=oFb7u1r7f3A |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"There's nothing new under the sun.
Vested interests have sought to manipulate the decision-making process since time began.
Just look at the size of the lobbying industry around Westminster - a.k.a. public affairs consultancies, communication agencies etc.
Whereas once these vested interests would use the media of TV and newspapers to influence voters, now they can reach them directly via the internet.
The technology and method has changed, but the practice is as old as the hills.
" |
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By *ethnmelv OP Couple
over a year ago
Cardiff |
"There's nothing new under the sun.
Vested interests have sought to manipulate the decision-making process since time began.
Just look at the size of the lobbying industry around Westminster - a.k.a. public affairs consultancies, communication agencies etc.
Whereas once these vested interests would use the media of TV and newspapers to influence voters, now they can reach them directly via the internet.
The technology and method has changed, but the practice is as old as the hills.
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& what makes it acceptable? |
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