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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"Why can she just get it in her thick head her deal is dead. And just get on with other ways of solving it by the indicative votes. And see which one has got the most support. "
Why can't the house see a party were elected on a mandate. The house is doing it's best to overturn that mandate.
The mandate is to offer a route in exiting the EU. The options are WTO or a negotiated outcome.
MP's are doing their best in absolving themselves of responsibility of voting Tory or voting no-deal when any other deal has not been explored or any future Europe has been explored.
MP's are now asking for more time to debate amendments when they should know which way and exactly why they are voting against a deal. |
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She's mainly interested in keeping the conservative party alive and preferably in power - the brexit stuff just happens to be a bit of a troublesome hassle, that was particularly likely to get the conservatives to self-combust.
She's not particularly competent, she's not really a negotiator or interested in collaborative effort: some of the traits that are really fairly necessary, should gaining widespread buy-in to major changes be needed. Her rigidity reflects those limitations as well as her continued insistence to plough on, almost as if nothing has happened or changed.
It is Theresa May who made the UK get so close to the end of March, without an agreement. She worked in isolation, not collaboratively with other parties or parliament. She delayed the vote a month, from December until Jan, when it wasn't likely to win. And now that some flexibility would still be likely to help, alongside working with others, she's just doing what she always has done.
She went to the EU leaders last week. They asked her what her plan B was - several times - she didn't tell them. She's not had one - she didn't really have a plan A for much of the time, as she insisted on launchhing Article 50, before she'd got the conservatives to agree upon what their brexit was, alongside a plan to achieve it.
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"Why can she just get it in her thick head her deal is dead. And just get on with other ways of solving it by the indicative votes. And see which one has got the most support.
Why can't the house see a party were elected on a mandate. The house is doing it's best to overturn that mandate.
The mandate is to offer a route in exiting the EU. The options are WTO or a negotiated outcome.
MP's are doing their best in absolving themselves of responsibility of voting Tory or voting no-deal when any other deal has not been explored or any future Europe has been explored.
MP's are now asking for more time to debate amendments when they should know which way and exactly why they are voting against a deal. "
We wouldnt be in this mess if May had done this bit at the start rather than the end. She's a moron |
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"Why can she just get it in her thick head her deal is dead. And just get on with other ways of solving it by the indicative votes. And see which one has got the most support. "
Her entire political reputation rests on brexit, she has been a one policy prime minister, she is now trapped. She will go down in history as the PM who destroyed the country in order to keep the tory pary together.
Junker was right, there is a special place in hell reserved in hell for her.
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"And so parliament rescues Brexit. Anyone think they'll find a way out of it before we leave?
Yes, finally we are seeing a bit of sense creep in  "
Options being - 2nd referendum, revoke, extend indefinite to find other options .. that is if is considered binding? |
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"And so parliament rescues Brexit. Anyone think they'll find a way out of it before we leave?
Yes, finally we are seeing a bit of sense creep in
Options being - 2nd referendum, revoke, extend indefinite to find other options .. that is if is considered binding? "
My preference is Revoke and then try to get some consensus about what we really want Britain to be. I’d be ok with another Referendum, but I’d like it to be legally binding this time with cheats and liars locked up if they try to fool people again  |
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"And so parliament rescues Brexit. Anyone think they'll find a way out of it before we leave?
Yes, finally we are seeing a bit of sense creep in
Options being - 2nd referendum, revoke, extend indefinite to find other options .. that is if is considered binding?
My preference is Revoke and then try to get some consensus about what we really want Britain to be. I’d be ok with another Referendum, but I’d like it to be legally binding this time with cheats and liars locked up if they try to fool people again "
I think Revoke is the only sane choice too now, as all time has been spent on the conservatives trying to agree what they want and there being no effective time remaining to do anything that truly reflects anything of merit.
Once evoked, the government needs to straighten itself up and determine how it can govern, if it can. As a second priority, following the results of that, it needs to decide what the government wants for its EU stance. I'd prefer Brexit dropped but see the case for a general election or referendum with a fixed minimum percentage required for acceptance of government re-submitting or otherwise not.
It's tough as May is now leader in name only and her party are in disarray |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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The transition agreement is perfectly credible.
More so as we get closer to the deadline if no other option comes to light.
It's still crappy and the real work hasn't even started.
It's still far worse than the deal we have  |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"And so parliament rescues Brexit. Anyone think they'll find a way out of it before we leave? "
The problem is can you get a majority of the house to back a single idea,I guess not,this is the problem
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