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"And all this shit started because the tories were worried about losing a few hundred thousand votes to ukip. So now they have lost every single brexiter vote anyway, and every single remainer vote. Way to go Mrs May at increasing your party's popularity "So tellme who would you vote if there was a ge tomorrow? | |||
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"And all this shit started because the tories were worried about losing a few hundred thousand votes to ukip. So now they have lost every single brexiter vote anyway, and every single remainer vote. Way to go Mrs May at increasing your party's popularity
So tellme who would you vote if there was a ge tomorrow?"In Winchester it would be Liberal to displace the Conservative MP, others might approach things differently | |||
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"And all this shit started because the tories were worried about losing a few hundred thousand votes to ukip. So now they have lost every single brexiter vote anyway, and every single remainer vote. Way to go Mrs May at increasing your party's popularity
So tellme who would you vote if there was a ge tomorrow?"Doesn't really matter who i would vote for, all that matters is that significantly fewer people will vote tory. Anybody that is a leaver will vote ukip or whatever other party appeals most to them, which certainly isn't going to be tory after the fuck up they have made of leaving. Nobody that is a remainer will vote tory again, if they can't find an alternate they just won't vote. Many of them will vote liberal or whoever promises a way back to Europe. Brexit for the tories was always just about stopping ukip stealing their voters, but the ultimate result is going to be to destroy their party. | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going "Only another 13.6m needed ?? | |||
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"tories will always vote tory labour will always vote labour and floatin voters will always vote for whoever is offering wat they want.what i think willl happen is majority of peeps are just not gona bother any more.i havent for years.both partys are shit its just a case of witch one is less shit at any given time" Nice to see someone talks sense, I’m the same, I haven’t voted in years. | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going
Only another 13.6m needed ??"Needed for what? Leave voters to give up the Brexit fantasy they've been sold by a bunch of rich people who stand to add to their wealth from this disaster. This is a petition. The aim is not to beat the Leave vote from 3 years ago. The aim is to highlight that there is a huge number of people in 2019 who do not want Brexit. Brexit isn't the will of the people. The vast majority of those 17.4m didn't have a clue what they were voting for. | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going
Only another 13.6m needed ??
Needed for what? Leave voters to give up the Brexit fantasy they've been sold by a bunch of rich people who stand to add to their wealth from this disaster.
This is a petition. The aim is not to beat the Leave vote from 3 years ago. The aim is to highlight that there is a huge number of people in 2019 who do not want Brexit.
Brexit isn't the will of the people. The vast majority of those 17.4m didn't have a clue what they were voting for."I voted to remain, I knew what I was voting for. How can you speak for 17.4m people and say they didn’t know what they were voting for.What is the will of the people ? Did all 16.1m of remainers know what they voted for? We’ll never all agree but there was a vote and the result was to leave. Should we disrespect the 17.4m that voted leave, tell them they didn’t know what they were voting for. If there is a second referendum maybe we could have volunteers at polling stations telling people how to vote. | |||
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"tories will always vote tory labour will always vote labour and floatin voters will always vote for whoever is offering wat they want.what i think willl happen is majority of peeps are just not gona bother any more.i havent for years.both partys are shit its just a case of witch one is less shit at any given time" I think you're totally wrong about the Tory vote and possibly the Labour vote too but others can talk about that. With regards to the Tory vote, there has always been a very large part of the Tory vote and membership who are basically Liberal (The actual full name of the party is "Conservative and Liberal Unionist Party") and many of those Liberals will definitely not be voting Tory in the next election and possibly never. While the Tory party refuses to act pragmatically and in the nation's best interests but instead panders to simplistic, populist nationalism it will have limited to no success at the poles. Possibly the fear of Corbyn's Labour party may sway a few back but many now believe that even Corbyn couldn't be worse than National Populism. | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going
Only another 13.6m needed ??
Needed for what? Leave voters to give up the Brexit fantasy they've been sold by a bunch of rich people who stand to add to their wealth from this disaster.
This is a petition. The aim is not to beat the Leave vote from 3 years ago. The aim is to highlight that there is a huge number of people in 2019 who do not want Brexit.
Brexit isn't the will of the people. The vast majority of those 17.4m didn't have a clue what they were voting for.
I voted to remain, I knew what I was voting for. How can you speak for 17.4m people and say they didn’t know what they were voting for.What is the will of the people ? Did all 16.1m of remainers know what they voted for? We’ll never all agree but there was a vote and the result was to leave. Should we disrespect the 17.4m that voted leave, tell them they didn’t know what they were voting for. If there is a second referendum maybe we could have volunteers at polling stations telling people how to vote. "I voted leave if i get a 2nd vote i will vote remain. People can and do change their minds and after nearly 3 years and things are way more clear now what brexit it to back then i do believe there is a majority of that 17 million people that feel the same way. Dont get me wrong i dont like the EU or the people running it but i just dont trust our goverment with it and would sooner be in the EU for now and try again in a decade or so when most of these politician's have moved on. | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going
Only another 13.6m needed ??
Needed for what? Leave voters to give up the Brexit fantasy they've been sold by a bunch of rich people who stand to add to their wealth from this disaster.
This is a petition. The aim is not to beat the Leave vote from 3 years ago. The aim is to highlight that there is a huge number of people in 2019 who do not want Brexit.
Brexit isn't the will of the people. The vast majority of those 17.4m didn't have a clue what they were voting for.
I voted to remain, I knew what I was voting for. How can you speak for 17.4m people and say they didn’t know what they were voting for.What is the will of the people ? Did all 16.1m of remainers know what they voted for? We’ll never all agree but there was a vote and the result was to leave. Should we disrespect the 17.4m that voted leave, tell them they didn’t know what they were voting for. If there is a second referendum maybe we could have volunteers at polling stations telling people how to vote. "So what you voting for then? | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going
Only another 13.6m needed ??
Needed for what? Leave voters to give up the Brexit fantasy they've been sold by a bunch of rich people who stand to add to their wealth from this disaster.
This is a petition. The aim is not to beat the Leave vote from 3 years ago. The aim is to highlight that there is a huge number of people in 2019 who do not want Brexit.
Brexit isn't the will of the people. The vast majority of those 17.4m didn't have a clue what they were voting for.
I voted to remain, I knew what I was voting for. How can you speak for 17.4m people and say they didn’t know what they were voting for.What is the will of the people ? Did all 16.1m of remainers know what they voted for? We’ll never all agree but there was a vote and the result was to leave. Should we disrespect the 17.4m that voted leave, tell them they didn’t know what they were voting for. If there is a second referendum maybe we could have volunteers at polling stations telling people how to vote.
So what you voting for then? "I voted to remain | |||
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"I didn’t vote the first time round but would vote leave... We live in a democracy state and what the political party are trying to do is against the will of the people and vote... What upset me the most is remainers asking for a people vote Well the vote should be how we leave... The mps on all side wants to remain So that’s where problems lies They don’t want to go against the will of the country but trying everything to stay I will vote Green Party from now on so should everyone else And leave the other fake none democrat parties tories labour and Lib Dem " But the referendum on brexit wasn't a mandate it was advisory only which means the goverment doesnt have to go ahead with anything. Politicians are paid to do whats best for the people of its country and paid very well to do so. If all the figures and facts show that the majority of the country will be vastly worse off in a no deal scenrio then they should simply ignore the advisory referendum and do what is the actual best thing for the people of country. Look at it like this.... a young child wants to draw on walls, stick a finger in a plug socket etc etc the parents say no don't do that its not good. When it comes to politics i believe most people couldnt care about it at all, find it dull and boring and have little to no knowledge about it, so our children in the world of politics, hence why we need are extremely well paid politicians to kinda be parents and say no that wont be good for you. Most people that voted brexit i believe was like me not really into politics and knows very little but see a big red bus saying extra 325 million for the nhs (or what ever the number was again) and thought oh that sounds great. Not to mention i despised david cameron and he was campaigning for remain and thought if he wants remain nothing good will come of this so im voting out. As i didnt trust him as far as i could throw him.  | |||
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"I didn’t vote the first time round but would vote leave... We live in a democracy state and what the political party are trying to do is against the will of the people and vote... What upset me the most is remainers asking for a people vote Well the vote should be how we leave... The mps on all side wants to remain So that’s where problems lies They don’t want to go against the will of the country but trying everything to stay I will vote Green Party from now on so should everyone else And leave the other fake none democrat parties tories labour and Lib Dem But the referendum on brexit wasn't a mandate it was advisory only which means the goverment doesnt have to go ahead with anything. Politicians are paid to do whats best for the people of its country and paid very well to do so. If all the figures and facts show that the majority of the country will be vastly worse off in a no deal scenrio then they should simply ignore the advisory referendum and do what is the actual best thing for the people of country. Look at it like this.... a young child wants to draw on walls, stick a finger in a plug socket etc etc the parents say no don't do that its not good. When it comes to politics i believe most people couldnt care about it at all, find it dull and boring and have little to no knowledge about it, so our children in the world of politics, hence why we need are extremely well paid politicians to kinda be parents and say no that wont be good for you. Most people that voted brexit i believe was like me not really into politics and knows very little but see a big red bus saying extra 325 million for the nhs (or what ever the number was again) and thought oh that sounds great. Not to mention i despised david cameron and he was campaigning for remain and thought if he wants remain nothing good will come of this so im voting out. As i didnt trust him as far as i could throw him. "Got *are and *our in wrong places. Oops my bad | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going
Only another 13.6m needed ??
Needed for what? Leave voters to give up the Brexit fantasy they've been sold by a bunch of rich people who stand to add to their wealth from this disaster.
This is a petition. The aim is not to beat the Leave vote from 3 years ago. The aim is to highlight that there is a huge number of people in 2019 who do not want Brexit.
Brexit isn't the will of the people. The vast majority of those 17.4m didn't have a clue what they were voting for.
I voted to remain, I knew what I was voting for. How can you speak for 17.4m people and say they didn’t know what they were voting for.What is the will of the people ? Did all 16.1m of remainers know what they voted for? We’ll never all agree but there was a vote and the result was to leave. Should we disrespect the 17.4m that voted leave, tell them they didn’t know what they were voting for. If there is a second referendum maybe we could have volunteers at polling stations telling people how to vote.
So what you voting for then?
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going
Only another 13.6m needed ??
Needed for what? Leave voters to give up the Brexit fantasy they've been sold by a bunch of rich people who stand to add to their wealth from this disaster.
This is a petition. The aim is not to beat the Leave vote from 3 years ago. The aim is to highlight that there is a huge number of people in 2019 who do not want Brexit.
Brexit isn't the will of the people. The vast majority of those 17.4m didn't have a clue what they were voting for.
I voted to remain, I knew what I was voting for. How can you speak for 17.4m people and say they didn’t know what they were voting for.What is the will of the people ? Did all 16.1m of remainers know what they voted for? We’ll never all agree but there was a vote and the result was to leave. Should we disrespect the 17.4m that voted leave, tell them they didn’t know what they were voting for. If there is a second referendum maybe we could have volunteers at polling stations telling people how to vote. "We have been through this many times before.Remain was a status quo vote and very simple to understand. The Leave vote was literally a Leave means all kinds of Leave. There were hard core, hard Brexit voters and by the same token there were people who absolutely voted to Leave on the softest possible terms after hearing statements from Leave Leaders such as: “No one is questioning our place in the Single Market” “What is so wrong about being out of the EU like Norway, but closely attached to it?” “Switzerland is not in the E.U. - we could have the same status as Switzerland and they are a very rich country.” Between those two Brexit positions, there are a multitude of other positions. The Brexit disagreements are highlighted by the way that pragmatic Leavers are now at odds with hard core Leavers in Parliament (and elsewhere) - each group fighting for what they believe Brexit should mean. It has been suggested that there is not going to be a consensus in Parliament for any one particular kind of Brexit and that really says it all. On that basis it would be entirely appropriate to put the finally decided Leave position back to the people for ratification. | |||
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"What a beautiful morning and 4 million beautiful people say revoke article 50. "Tomorrow should be 5 million | |||
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"Macron nailed it in an interview yesterday. The Leave champions have left the scene to count their dosh, leaving their supporters to face the coming economic hurricane because it's all being done with any sort of plan. "He told the truth, all the leaders fled like rats from a sinking ship. | |||
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"What a beautiful morning and 4 million beautiful people say revoke article 50. "if you want to put in terms that our "gammon" friends might understand.... UKIP in the last general election got 3.88 million votes....  | |||
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just going to leave 2) hanging out there...... | |||
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"What a beautiful morning and 4 million beautiful people say revoke article 50.
if you want to put in terms that our "gammon" friends might understand.... UKIP in the last general election got 3.88 million votes...."And only 0.15% representation in Parliament.... | |||
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"Macron nailed it in an interview yesterday. The Leave champions have left the scene to count their dosh, leaving their supporters to face the coming economic hurricane because it's all being done with any sort of plan. " | |||
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"two things... 1) now at 4.2 million... 2) the lady who started the petition is now getting death threats!
just going to leave 2) hanging out there......"We're going to need more jails at this rate  | |||
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"Hundreds of thousands of people marching thru London today wanting to put brexit back to the people , does it top farages march earlier in the week ? " The last i heard it was votes that counted not how many people you can get on a march. | |||
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"Hundreds of thousands of people marching thru London today wanting to put brexit back to the people , does it top farages march earlier in the week ? The last i heard it was votes that counted not how many people you can get on a march." loly | |||
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"two things... 1) now at 4.2 million... 2) the lady who started the petition is now getting death threats!
just going to leave 2) hanging out there......"There always a keyboard warrior that thinks it’s ok to threaten people, I hope the police track them down and charge them! That will look good on thier DBS record | |||
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"Hundreds of thousands of people marching thru London today wanting to put brexit back to the people , does it top farages march earlier in the week ? The last i heard it was votes that counted not how many people you can get on a march." the suffragettes wasn't put off by that attitude was they | |||
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"Just signed myself, have passed this on to a few pro-remain friends too. " | |||
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"From a British run company. That has Offices Worldwide. For all those rubbishing the economy and how Brexit is bad for Britain. As we go into the last week of negotiation all outcomes are still possible; no Brexit, hard Brexit or some kind of compromise in between. This bit doesn’t surprise me at all. Every major negotiation I’ve ever been involved in usually goes down to the wire, partly because work expands to fill the time available and it’s the way lawyers maximise their fees. The other thing that doesn’t surprise me is the fact that parliament is finding this so difficult. Politicians find getting the things they want done difficult, on this particular occasion we’ve asked them to do what the majority doesn’t want done, so it’s hardly surprising its proving extremely challenging. It is worth remembering there is a lot of good news about the UK economy this week. We have the record amount of people in work and the lowest number of jobseekers since 1975, when the population was a lot smaller. In fact, the unemployment rate in UK is 3.5% compared to a European average of 6.5%. While inflation was up this week, from 1.8% to 1.9% we are seeing real wage growth because salaries are rising at above 3%. Although things are far from perfect, this is all happening while people are apparently putting off decisions due to Brexit. What will happen when Brexit is behind us? So, we have some plans in the event of a hard Brexit and we will invoke those plans if a hard Brexit happens next week, or after any extension, but more importantly, we will cope with whatever this throws at us. We will handle the risks and we will seize the opportunities, because there will be lots of opportunities." Well thats nice for you - not sure it will be quite so lovely for everyone - nissan, honda, airbus, come to mind not to mention the lack of scientific project funding as we withdraw from the EU but thats all going to be sorted out in our brave new world isnt it? I mean the government are going to make up for the funding and loss of access to world class scientific and engineering projects aren’t they because after all ten years of austerity hasnt brought all this about has it? It’ll be alright though wont it because whats a few more years of poverty when you haven’t got anything anyway? Enjoy the coffee! | |||
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"From a British run company. That has Offices Worldwide. For all those rubbishing the economy and how Brexit is bad for Britain. As we go into the last week of negotiation all outcomes are still possible; no Brexit, hard Brexit or some kind of compromise in between. This bit doesn’t surprise me at all. Every major negotiation I’ve ever been involved in usually goes down to the wire, partly because work expands to fill the time available and it’s the way lawyers maximise their fees. The other thing that doesn’t surprise me is the fact that parliament is finding this so difficult. Politicians find getting the things they want done difficult, on this particular occasion we’ve asked them to do what the majority doesn’t want done, so it’s hardly surprising its proving extremely challenging. It is worth remembering there is a lot of good news about the UK economy this week. We have the record amount of people in work and the lowest number of jobseekers since 1975, when the population was a lot smaller. In fact, the unemployment rate in UK is 3.5% compared to a European average of 6.5%. While inflation was up this week, from 1.8% to 1.9% we are seeing real wage growth because salaries are rising at above 3%. Although things are far from perfect, this is all happening while people are apparently putting off decisions due to Brexit. What will happen when Brexit is behind us? So, we have some plans in the event of a hard Brexit and we will invoke those plans if a hard Brexit happens next week, or after any extension, but more importantly, we will cope with whatever this throws at us. We will handle the risks and we will seize the opportunities, because there will be lots of opportunities. Well thats nice for you - not sure it will be quite so lovely for everyone - nissan, honda, airbus, come to mind not to mention the lack of scientific project funding as we withdraw from the EU but thats all going to be sorted out in our brave new world isnt it? I mean the government are going to make up for the funding and loss of access to world class scientific and engineering projects aren’t they because after all ten years of austerity hasnt brought all this about has it? It’ll be alright though wont it because whats a few more years of poverty when you haven’t got anything anyway? Enjoy the coffee!" Such a pessimist, I will enjoy my coffee Thankyou. | |||
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"All the re-moaners make me smile. You lost get over it. We are leaving." ahhhhh change the flipping record ,you lot have sent this great country into a bloody mess !!! | |||
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"From a British run company. That has Offices Worldwide. For all those rubbishing the economy and how Brexit is bad for Britain. As we go into the last week of negotiation all outcomes are still possible; no Brexit, hard Brexit or some kind of compromise in between. This bit doesn’t surprise me at all. Every major negotiation I’ve ever been involved in usually goes down to the wire, partly because work expands to fill the time available and it’s the way lawyers maximise their fees. The other thing that doesn’t surprise me is the fact that parliament is finding this so difficult. Politicians find getting the things they want done difficult, on this particular occasion we’ve asked them to do what the majority doesn’t want done, so it’s hardly surprising its proving extremely challenging. It is worth remembering there is a lot of good news about the UK economy this week. We have the record amount of people in work and the lowest number of jobseekers since 1975, when the population was a lot smaller. In fact, the unemployment rate in UK is 3.5% compared to a European average of 6.5%. While inflation was up this week, from 1.8% to 1.9% we are seeing real wage growth because salaries are rising at above 3%. Although things are far from perfect, this is all happening while people are apparently putting off decisions due to Brexit. What will happen when Brexit is behind us? So, we have some plans in the event of a hard Brexit and we will invoke those plans if a hard Brexit happens next week, or after any extension, but more importantly, we will cope with whatever this throws at us. We will handle the risks and we will seize the opportunities, because there will be lots of opportunities. Well thats nice for you - not sure it will be quite so lovely for everyone - nissan, honda, airbus, come to mind not to mention the lack of scientific project funding as we withdraw from the EU but thats all going to be sorted out in our brave new world isnt it? I mean the government are going to make up for the funding and loss of access to world class scientific and engineering projects aren’t they because after all ten years of austerity hasnt brought all this about has it? It’ll be alright though wont it because whats a few more years of poverty when you haven’t got anything anyway? Enjoy the coffee! Such a pessimist, I will enjoy my coffee Thankyou. " ide say he's more of a realist ! | |||
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"From a British run company. That has Offices Worldwide. For all those rubbishing the economy and how Brexit is bad for Britain. As we go into the last week of negotiation all outcomes are still possible; no Brexit, hard Brexit or some kind of compromise in between. This bit doesn’t surprise me at all. Every major negotiation I’ve ever been involved in usually goes down to the wire, partly because work expands to fill the time available and it’s the way lawyers maximise their fees. The other thing that doesn’t surprise me is the fact that parliament is finding this so difficult. Politicians find getting the things they want done difficult, on this particular occasion we’ve asked them to do what the majority doesn’t want done, so it’s hardly surprising its proving extremely challenging. It is worth remembering there is a lot of good news about the UK economy this week. We have the record amount of people in work and the lowest number of jobseekers since 1975, when the population was a lot smaller. In fact, the unemployment rate in UK is 3.5% compared to a European average of 6.5%. While inflation was up this week, from 1.8% to 1.9% we are seeing real wage growth because salaries are rising at above 3%. Although things are far from perfect, this is all happening while people are apparently putting off decisions due to Brexit. What will happen when Brexit is behind us? So, we have some plans in the event of a hard Brexit and we will invoke those plans if a hard Brexit happens next week, or after any extension, but more importantly, we will cope with whatever this throws at us. We will handle the risks and we will seize the opportunities, because there will be lots of opportunities." Totally agree with you mate but im afraid you are wasting your breath on most of them on here all you get is negativity. | |||
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"From a British run company. That has Offices Worldwide. For all those rubbishing the economy and how Brexit is bad for Britain. As we go into the last week of negotiation all outcomes are still possible; no Brexit, hard Brexit or some kind of compromise in between. This bit doesn’t surprise me at all. Every major negotiation I’ve ever been involved in usually goes down to the wire, partly because work expands to fill the time available and it’s the way lawyers maximise their fees. The other thing that doesn’t surprise me is the fact that parliament is finding this so difficult. Politicians find getting the things they want done difficult, on this particular occasion we’ve asked them to do what the majority doesn’t want done, so it’s hardly surprising its proving extremely challenging. It is worth remembering there is a lot of good news about the UK economy this week. We have the record amount of people in work and the lowest number of jobseekers since 1975, when the population was a lot smaller. In fact, the unemployment rate in UK is 3.5% compared to a European average of 6.5%. While inflation was up this week, from 1.8% to 1.9% we are seeing real wage growth because salaries are rising at above 3%. Although things are far from perfect, this is all happening while people are apparently putting off decisions due to Brexit. What will happen when Brexit is behind us? So, we have some plans in the event of a hard Brexit and we will invoke those plans if a hard Brexit happens next week, or after any extension, but more importantly, we will cope with whatever this throws at us. We will handle the risks and we will seize the opportunities, because there will be lots of opportunities. Well thats nice for you - not sure it will be quite so lovely for everyone - nissan, honda, airbus, come to mind not to mention the lack of scientific project funding as we withdraw from the EU but thats all going to be sorted out in our brave new world isnt it? I mean the government are going to make up for the funding and loss of access to world class scientific and engineering projects aren’t they because after all ten years of austerity hasnt brought all this about has it? It’ll be alright though wont it because whats a few more years of poverty when you haven’t got anything anyway? Enjoy the coffee! Such a pessimist, I will enjoy my coffee Thankyou. ide say he's more of a realist ! " Sorry won’t be able to enjoy my coffee as per your driveling, all the coffee shops will disappear, the reality is businesses come and go, emoloyees come and go. That’s the beauty of change. As one door closes another door opens. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!!" Well said and Thankyou for your hard work. I suspect that many EU companies will move operations to the UK to take advantage of our release from the red tape of the EU | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! Well said and Thankyou for your hard work. I suspect that many EU companies will move operations to the UK to take advantage of our release from the red tape of the EU " | |||
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"4.5m reached, 10% of the voting population - well done everyone! & 1m plus marching "Think you will find that’s about 7% , but I would put it nearer 5% with all the duplicate signatures from multiple email accounts. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!!" You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail  | |||
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"4.5m reached, 10% of the voting population - well done everyone! & 1m plus marching
Think you will find that’s about 7% , but I would put it nearer 5% with all the duplicate signatures from multiple email accounts.
"Make up whatever you like. 1 million plus on the streets, peacefully; 4.5 million signatures (cyber security experts confirm 98%+ from the UK and all with valid UK postcode - UK citizens overseas can also petition the Govt - so no need for fake facts | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail "Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners. "Which bit was bullshit? | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?"Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners. "& which bit was a personal attack? I think you will see it was an observation that the poster didn’t actually know what he was talking about, so it was helpful he didn’t have to be involved in it anymore | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! Well said and Thankyou for your hard work. I suspect that many EU companies will move operations to the UK to take advantage of our release from the red tape of the EU " Release from red tape? wtf are you on about!? Please name me one piece of 'red tape' that we will now be released from (that does not just stripping us of rights and protections)? -Matt | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago." Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent. "You obviously don’t read my posts - the UK population is 65m, so 7% of that is indeed 4.5m, but I actually stated the ‘voting population’..., which is about 45m... | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! Well said and Thankyou for your hard work. I suspect that many EU companies will move operations to the UK to take advantage of our release from the red tape of the EU Release from red tape? wtf are you on about!? Please name me one piece of 'red tape' that we will now be released from (that does not just stripping us of rights and protections)? -Matt" If you think it’s going to be that bad your Welcone to stay here or move to a country that wants to be in the EU. I’ll even join you if it does turn out like that. But I’m happy that this country was built without the EU, and we will do fine without being part of the beurecratic unelected big boys club. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent. "& of course thisis the Civil Service that expects to have to run a ‘Chilcott style’ enquiry to investigate the lies and abuses from the Brexit Campaign. Let’s support them in this, but lets hope they put people on it that have a grasp of basic facts | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt" I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know?" Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially?" In 5 years, 10 years or 20 years time? | |||
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"4.5m reached, 10% of the voting population - well done everyone! & 1m plus marching
Think you will find that’s about 7% , but I would put it nearer 5% with all the duplicate signatures from multiple email accounts.
"There were 46,501,241 people on the electoral role for the 2016 referendum. Currently 4,544,066 have signed the petition. I make that 9.77% which rounded to the nearest whole number is 10%. This highlight the problem with Brexiters. They really are thick. | |||
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"4.5m reached, 10% of the voting population - well done everyone! & 1m plus marching
Think you will find that’s about 7% , but I would put it nearer 5% with all the duplicate signatures from multiple email accounts.
There were 46,501,241 people on the electoral role for the 2016 referendum. Currently 4,544,066 have signed the petition.
I make that 9.77% which rounded to the nearest whole number is 10%.
This highlight the problem with Brexiters. They really are thick.
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially?" Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. | |||
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"4.5m reached, 10% of the voting population - well done everyone! & 1m plus marching
Think you will find that’s about 7% , but I would put it nearer 5% with all the duplicate signatures from multiple email accounts.
There were 46,501,241 people on the electoral role for the 2016 referendum. Currently 4,544,066 have signed the petition.
I make that 9.77% which rounded to the nearest whole number is 10%.
This highlight the problem with Brexiters. They really are thick.
Just like all the remoaners who think Nando’s will go bust, and they will have to move to Scotland. Again sad you have to resort to abuse. To get tour point across.
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. " You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each... | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. " Who says we have no say? Seriously, prove it. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each... "Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club. Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. Who says we have no say? Seriously, prove it." Why is it remoaners always want proof, but never give it. Prove to me that we have ultimate power over the EU | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition "I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population... | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population..."Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition "There are about 11m under 14 in the UK so lets disregard them as being able to sign this petition. | |||
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"Prove to me that we have ultimate power over the EU" We don't have 'ultimate power' over the EU. We won't have 'ultimate power' over the USA if we sign a post-Brexit trade deal with them. We'll have to accept some of their standards and rules. Whatever we do after Brexit, we won't have 'ultimate power' over it. Because it's 2019. The era of countries bravely standing alone and never making compromises or deals is long gone. People need to get over the juvenile idea that co-operation is bad. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
There are about 11m under 14 in the UK so lets disregard them as being able to sign this petition.
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really. "Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months... | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent. "just a couple of things.... 1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff...... 2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific... so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to??????? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months..."You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law. "Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months..."Actually, if you were to do your homework you will find this petition has been running longer than 3 days..!! | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law.
Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again? "What official vote, we already had it m, and you don’t accept it so what will make another vote any more official. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to??????? "The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
Actually, if you were to do your homework you will find this petition has been running longer than 3 days..!!"I chose my words carefully in terms of the volume of votes over that period - I could have done a comparison with the Leave vote over those 3 days instead of 3 months if you’d wanted me to be even more accurate and show the scale of difference to be even greater?  | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law.
Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again? "Any second referendum should have two options. 1. Leave the EU and accept the deal offered by the EU. 2. No deal and leave the EU. We have already had a referendum to decide if we want to be in the EU. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law.
Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again?
Any second referendum should have two options.
1. Leave the EU and accept the deal offered by the EU.
2. No deal and leave the EU.
We have already had a referendum to decide if we want to be in the EU."Why not add the don’t leave - just for fun, if your confident that Leave has any majority now... | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
Actually, if you were to do your homework you will find this petition has been running longer than 3 days..!!
I chose my words carefully in terms of the volume of votes over that period - I could have done a comparison with the Leave vote over those 3 days instead of 3 months if you’d wanted me to be even more accurate and show the scale of difference to be even greater? "So you agree the petition has been running longer than the 3 days you stated? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law.
Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again?
Any second referendum should have two options.
1. Leave the EU and accept the deal offered by the EU.
2. No deal and leave the EU.
We have already had a referendum to decide if we want to be in the EU.
Why not add the don’t leave - just for fun, if your confident that Leave has any majority now... "We could just have. 1. Leave the EU 2. Stay in the EU Hold on, we had that one already and we voted option 1. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
Actually, if you were to do your homework you will find this petition has been running longer than 3 days..!!
I chose my words carefully in terms of the volume of votes over that period - I could have done a comparison with the Leave vote over those 3 days instead of 3 months if you’d wanted me to be even more accurate and show the scale of difference to be even greater?
So you agree the petition has been running longer than the 3 days you stated?"Happy to, and in the past 3 days it was about 50 to 1 in terms of signatures | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law.
Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again?
Any second referendum should have two options.
1. Leave the EU and accept the deal offered by the EU.
2. No deal and leave the EU.
We have already had a referendum to decide if we want to be in the EU.
Why not add the don’t leave - just for fun, if your confident that Leave has any majority now... "It’s funny you mention confidence, as I have spoken to many who voted remain, who say they would now vote to leave, as they are disgusted at tgevwaynthevEU has behaved. And I have seen nothing that would make me or many other leave voters decide they now want to stay., However I’m bored now, I’m off to stockpile Chicken, sell my BMW and put away my red tape before the end of the world, We made it through the Millenium and the end of the world predictions once before, I’m sure it will all work out in the end. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
Actually, if you were to do your homework you will find this petition has been running longer than 3 days..!!
I chose my words carefully in terms of the volume of votes over that period - I could have done a comparison with the Leave vote over those 3 days instead of 3 months if you’d wanted me to be even more accurate and show the scale of difference to be even greater?
So you agree the petition has been running longer than the 3 days you stated?
Happy to, and in the past 3 days it was about 50 to 1 in terms of signatures "So you are comparing. Compare the choices of the EU refendum vote then. Who got the most? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law.
Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again?
Any second referendum should have two options.
1. Leave the EU and accept the deal offered by the EU.
2. No deal and leave the EU.
We have already had a referendum to decide if we want to be in the EU.
Why not add the don’t leave - just for fun, if your confident that Leave has any majority now...
It’s funny you mention confidence, as I have spoken to many who voted remain, who say they would now vote to leave, as they are disgusted at tgevwaynthevEU has behaved. And I have seen nothing that would make me or many other leave voters decide they now want to stay.,
However I’m bored now, I’m off to stockpile Chicken, sell my BMW and put away my red tape before the end of the world, We made it through the Millenium and the end of the world predictions once before, I’m sure it will all work out in the end. "...run away! | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck. "again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to? any one will do...... thank you... | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law.
Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again?
Any second referendum should have two options.
1. Leave the EU and accept the deal offered by the EU.
2. No deal and leave the EU.
We have already had a referendum to decide if we want to be in the EU.
Why not add the don’t leave - just for fun, if your confident that Leave has any majority now...
It’s funny you mention confidence, as I have spoken to many who voted remain, who say they would now vote to leave, as they are disgusted at tgevwaynthevEU has behaved. And I have seen nothing that would make me or many other leave voters decide they now want to stay.,
However I’m bored now, I’m off to stockpile Chicken, sell my BMW and put away my red tape before the end of the world, We made it through the Millenium and the end of the world predictions once before, I’m sure it will all work out in the end.
...run away! "Not running just bored of your negativity, it’s very draining. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
I stated quite clearly it was 10% of the voting population...
Again you miss the point the petition is open to all uk residents, prove to me that every signature is from a voter and not just a UK citizen, no actually don’t worry as I don’t need you to prove anything to me, I’m not that sad or bothered really.
Lets make a fair comparison then, the revoke petition got 9.5 times as many signatures in 3 days as the Leave one did in 3 months...
You make a good point, however I did not sign the leave petition as we had already won the democratic vote, so why would I need to sign a petition for something that was already passed into law.
Thats your choice, maybe when we have an official vote we can check again?
Any second referendum should have two options.
1. Leave the EU and accept the deal offered by the EU.
2. No deal and leave the EU.
We have already had a referendum to decide if we want to be in the EU.
Why not add the don’t leave - just for fun, if your confident that Leave has any majority now...
It’s funny you mention confidence, as I have spoken to many who voted remain, who say they would now vote to leave, as they are disgusted at tgevwaynthevEU has behaved. And I have seen nothing that would make me or many other leave voters decide they now want to stay.,
However I’m bored now, I’m off to stockpile Chicken, sell my BMW and put away my red tape before the end of the world, We made it through the Millenium and the end of the world predictions once before, I’m sure it will all work out in the end.
...run away!
Not running just bored of your negativity, it’s very draining. "Come over to the positive side! | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you..."How about the UK is not currently allowed to make trade deals with third countries? | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you..."Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it. "You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now  | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now "Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet. Night it’s been fun, | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun, "The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well "Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. Deja vu of 'project fear'? You mean they are the exact same concerns that we've had for the past two years and that the government has failed to address and no leaver has been able to come up with any argument to refute? Other than 'get over it' -Matt I see rather than answer my honest question of the positive future of remaining in the EU. You decide to pick up on the deja vu of project fear. Which basically is what all the negative post are. I honestly think the remainers have no idea where the EU will be in 20 years time. But if somebody does know the long term plan please do let us know? Being part of it enables us to guide it more effectively than being outside of it. Do you even know where you will be - i assume you mean economically, politically, socially? Now who’s talking •••• we are 1 part of 27/28 nations we have no say in the EU. You don’t actually know how it works do you? It isn’t one vote each...
Again pick pick pick. No we don’t have 1 vote but we are a very small part of the club.
Also back to your 10%. The petitions are open to all uk residents, not just the electorate so that is 7percent if those entitled to sign the petition
There are about 11m under 14 in the UK so lets disregard them as being able to sign this petition.
and of those 11m, most will have an email address and be a resident of the UK. "At nurseries up and down the country, carers are asking their toddler groups to sign this petition? Seriously, I very much doubt many under 14s are even aware of the petition. Not only those 11m won't be voting but there are another 10% of households in the UK who don't have access to the internet. Whilst they live in the UK, the chances of them having an email address is about as likely as the nursery children writing bots to fake signatures.... | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper. "What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. "they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol "I am scaremongering though? | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol
I am scaremongering though? "small minds are easily scard tho haha | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol
I am scaremongering though? small minds are easily scard tho haha "They seems to have been scared by the fake news about the Lisbon Treaty. Some moron Brexiter in the Best for Britain facebook group saying that next year we will be forced to join the euro. When pulled up about it he told people to read it. Like he had done right? When Brexiteers get their knickers in a twist about Remainers who say that Brexiteer didn't know what they were voting for I can only laugh. They say they knew. They wanted our of the EU, out of the single market and out of the Customs Union. The Customs Union was barely mentioned in the referendum. I bet 90% of Brexiteers didn't even know that the Customs Union was a thing in 2016. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol "Straight from the BBC Japanese carmaker, Mitsubishi, is considering moving some production to the UK. That's according to the Times, which says industry sources have confirmed that Sunderland could yet begin production of a Mitsubishi. It says Nissan is in a cross-shareholding alliance with Mitsubishi, and that if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations, Mitsubishi could take up spare capacity in the factory, which is capable of producing more than 500,000 cars a year - but last year made 442,000. It comes after Toyota said yesterday ithat t would start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol
Straight from the BBC
Japanese carmaker, Mitsubishi, is considering moving some production to the UK.
That's according to the Times, which says industry sources have confirmed that Sunderland could yet begin production of a Mitsubishi.
It says Nissan is in a cross-shareholding alliance with Mitsubishi, and that if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations, Mitsubishi could take up spare capacity in the factory, which is capable of producing more than 500,000 cars a year - but last year made 442,000.
It comes after Toyota said yesterday ithat t would start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories.
"Kraft this year invested 20m in Wigan. Last year | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol
Straight from the BBC
Japanese carmaker, Mitsubishi, is considering moving some production to the UK.
That's according to the Times, which says industry sources have confirmed that Sunderland could yet begin production of a Mitsubishi.
It says Nissan is in a cross-shareholding alliance with Mitsubishi, and that if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations, Mitsubishi could take up spare capacity in the factory, which is capable of producing more than 500,000 cars a year - but last year made 442,000.
It comes after Toyota said yesterday ithat t would start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories.
Kraft this year invested 20m in Wigan. Last year "Canadian dairy giant Suputo’s acquisition of Dairy Crest will be ‘nothing but good news’ for farmers, after the announcement of a £975 million takeover last Friday (February 22), according to chief executive Mark Allen. There will be no changes for suppliers, but the company will be looking for more milk over the next few years. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol
Straight from the BBC
Japanese carmaker, Mitsubishi, is considering moving some production to the UK.
That's according to the Times, which says industry sources have confirmed that Sunderland could yet begin production of a Mitsubishi.
It says Nissan is in a cross-shareholding alliance with Mitsubishi, and that if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations, Mitsubishi could take up spare capacity in the factory, which is capable of producing more than 500,000 cars a year - but last year made 442,000.
It comes after Toyota said yesterday ithat t would start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories.
"Mitsubishi: "if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations". What, like Revoking Article 50? Toyota: "Toyota will start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories, it has been confirmed. It will not lead to extra jobs or investment but will make the factory more efficient, the firm said." Not exactly fantastic news is it...It hardly shows Brexit as being a positive for the UK as we were led to believe... | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol
Straight from the BBC
Japanese carmaker, Mitsubishi, is considering moving some production to the UK.
That's according to the Times, which says industry sources have confirmed that Sunderland could yet begin production of a Mitsubishi.
It says Nissan is in a cross-shareholding alliance with Mitsubishi, and that if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations, Mitsubishi could take up spare capacity in the factory, which is capable of producing more than 500,000 cars a year - but last year made 442,000.
It comes after Toyota said yesterday ithat t would start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories.
Kraft this year invested 20m in Wigan. Last year
Canadian dairy giant Suputo’s acquisition of Dairy Crest will be ‘nothing but good news’ for farmers, after the announcement of a £975 million takeover last Friday (February 22), according to chief executive Mark Allen.
There will be no changes for suppliers, but the company will be looking for more milk over the next few years."Foreign investment in UK at record level The UK remains a top destination for foreign investment, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), with investment increasing by 12.6% last year The value of the UK’s foreign direct investment (FDI) rose by £149bn to £1.3bn in 2017. The Department of International Trade said this was the highest level of inward stock since records began. The department welcomed the news that the greatest growth from any country came from Indian investors, rising 321% to £8bn. Stocks from Asia totalled £128bn, with investment from Japan increasing 71% to £78bn. Note the last comment in Japanese investment. But you remoaners will all bleat in about the doom and gloom. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol
Straight from the BBC
Japanese carmaker, Mitsubishi, is considering moving some production to the UK.
That's according to the Times, which says industry sources have confirmed that Sunderland could yet begin production of a Mitsubishi.
It says Nissan is in a cross-shareholding alliance with Mitsubishi, and that if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations, Mitsubishi could take up spare capacity in the factory, which is capable of producing more than 500,000 cars a year - but last year made 442,000.
It comes after Toyota said yesterday ithat t would start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories.
Mitsubishi: "if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations". What, like Revoking Article 50?
Toyota: "Toyota will start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories, it has been confirmed.
It will not lead to extra jobs or investment but will make the factory more efficient, the firm said."
Not exactly fantastic news is it...It hardly shows Brexit as being a positive for the UK as we were led to believe...
"And your point is, Even in the EU firms are driving efficiency. I in the last 5 years have seen my group go from 350 to 7 not because of Brexit, but business and automation. Zero hours contracts. While we are currently in the EU. Join a Union if your that passionate. | |||
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"All politicians are to blame for this mess, all 650+ not just the Tories. When we leave, we will start free trading, then all the petty rules and regulations imposed on us by EU directives will stop, thank god. I was working on a no deal Brexit, as a civil servant until I retired before Xmas. Let me tell the future is bright.. smile !!!! You know that is complete and utter bollox don’t you? Rules will not go away, we will have to abide by larger economic block rules. It is probably quite helpful you retired with your grasp of the detail
Always resorts to bullshit and personal attack’s with these very sad remoaners.
Which bit was bullshit?
Your very narrow minded, there is a whole world out there past the EU. You got a response from someone who has worked in the civil service and you berate them and say there talking bollocks what makes anything you say any less bollocks and project fear. We’ve already seen your maths aren’t up to much with your 4.5 mill equalling 10 percent.
just a couple of things....
1) i'd love to know what part of the civil service that fella worked for... because the reason i haven't really been on this afternoon, is that I have done some overtime doing "no deal" brexit prep.... and i wish i could say i was as confident as him, just because we don't know exactly what will come our way, it will very much be "flying by the seat of our pants" stuff......
2) i love answers that say "red tape".... because that is one of those platitude answers where it sounds good without saying anything specific...
so which EU "red tape" do you actually object to???????
The thousands of pointless EU regulations, that affect business and trade every day. If you want a list ask Yunker, but he won’t let you see them as that’s another EU failure, transparency and accountability, the only chance you have of seeing them is by joining him at the Barvand waiting till he’s off his face, which is quite a regular thing. Good luck.
again.... thats just general platitudes.... all i asked is for you to name just one specific EU regulation that you object to?
any one will do...... thank you...
Just type in top 10 pointless EU Regulations, your a big boy now, you can look for yourself. As you only asked for 1, I’m sure you’ll be able to find it.
You mean the Express article? That was a piss take. Worried about you now
Don’t read the Express made just the FT, I’m afraid but if you search a bit harder you’ll find some very pointless and obstructive regulations. Shybloke gave you a brilliant example, we cannot make our own trade deals, we cannot fish our own waters. Like I say speak to Junker, he’ll give you a big cuddle while stealing your wallet.
Night it’s been fun,
The one’s you mentioned aren’t pointless regulations, they are part of the deals we agreed - it is called negotiating - you cannot have your cake and eat it as well
Tell that to the Fisherman and the Fishing industry, I’m sure they tell you where to put your kipper.
What's with all the support for fishermen? There are 12,000 of them in the UK. Exiting the EU is going to affect 7,000 people working in the car industry through Honda. Add to that hundreds at Nissan (In Japan they're blaming Brexit, in the they're making excuses). The impact on job in the UK thought Brexit has hardly started. they won't believe it until it smacks them in the face , wudnt waste Ur time on them cos all they can say is you lost ! Like play ground kids lol
Straight from the BBC
Japanese carmaker, Mitsubishi, is considering moving some production to the UK.
That's according to the Times, which says industry sources have confirmed that Sunderland could yet begin production of a Mitsubishi.
It says Nissan is in a cross-shareholding alliance with Mitsubishi, and that if there is a satisfactory outcome to Brexit negotiations, Mitsubishi could take up spare capacity in the factory, which is capable of producing more than 500,000 cars a year - but last year made 442,000.
It comes after Toyota said yesterday ithat t would start manufacturing hybrid cars for Suzuki at one of its UK factories.
Kraft this year invested 20m in Wigan. Last year
Canadian dairy giant Suputo’s acquisition of Dairy Crest will be ‘nothing but good news’ for farmers, after the announcement of a £975 million takeover last Friday (February 22), according to chief executive Mark Allen.
There will be no changes for suppliers, but the company will be looking for more milk over the next few years.
Foreign investment in UK at record level
The UK remains a top destination for foreign investment, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), with investment increasing by 12.6% last year
The value of the UK’s foreign direct investment (FDI) rose by £149bn to £1.3bn in 2017.
The Department of International Trade said this was the highest level of inward stock since records began. The department welcomed the news that the greatest growth from any country came from Indian investors, rising 321% to £8bn. Stocks from Asia totalled £128bn, with investment from Japan increasing 71% to £78bn.
Note the last comment in Japanese investment.
But you remoaners will all bleat in about the doom and gloom.
"What ever happens with Brexit, we leave, we stay or we end up half in and half out its fantastic that foreign investers have faith in the UK. It's just a shame there are some out there with little or no faith in their own country! | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago." I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. " A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK?" I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! | |||
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"Many of us have faith in our country and our fellow countrypeople. We are happy to discuss the options rather than being told what to do by an elite Eton minority - lets put it to the people to choose "Let's not. We had one referendum and you clearly didn't like the result. You didn't get your way and are moaning about it. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! " So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th? | |||
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"Many of us have faith in our country and our fellow countrypeople. We are happy to discuss the options rather than being told what to do by an elite Eton minority - lets put it to the people to choose
Let's not.
We had one referendum and you clearly didn't like the result.
You didn't get your way and are moaning about it."this is utter rubbish ! A 2nd referendum on the deal that depicts our futures isn't being silly , today is a far cry from what was pontificated in 2016 , ask the people again , if it's still leave then so be it , just have to live with it Can I ask why leave voters are so against a further vote ? And please don't say democracy | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! " Well I am proud to call myself British. I remember quite clearly untruths from both campaigns to leave or stay. But I would rather have a democracy that allows for accountability than an unelected club of meddling Eurocrats. We are not the only country that wants out, and just look at this great EU the divisions it has caused in every single member state. So yes let’s go with no deal which is better than a bad deal and rebuild this country | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?" Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? " Because I asked you! | |||
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"Good news is we now have E-democracy with two petitions doing the rounds on revoking 50 or leaving without a deal....let's find out the current 'Will of the People' over the next 7 days via the petitions and then get the MPs to vote. " good luck with that one lol | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!" and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? | |||
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"Good news is we now have E-democracy with two petitions doing the rounds on revoking 50 or leaving without a deal....let's find out the current 'Will of the People' over the next 7 days via the petitions and then get the MPs to vote. " Fortunately that's not how it works in the UK. But if you was to give everyone in the UK access to the internet with a unique voting code and a day to vote on, it may be a way to do it in the future. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? " Where have I said I know all the answers? | |||
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"Good news is we now have E-democracy with two petitions doing the rounds on revoking 50 or leaving without a deal....let's find out the current 'Will of the People' over the next 7 days via the petitions and then get the MPs to vote. Fortunately that's not how it works in the UK. But if you was to give everyone in the UK access to the internet with a unique voting code and a day to vote on, it may be a way to do it in the future. " why don't you just go to parliament and tell them thier petitions department is a utter waste of time and doesn't represent a democratic society ? There is a eligibility criteria for all petitions to be heard in parliament , that's democratic isn't it ? Whether it changes anything remains to be seen surely or is that so wrong too ? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? Where have I said I know all the answers?" it's you who are pontificating the virtues of leaving the EU ? Or am I wrong ? But you put the question to me expecting I had answers and I'm a remain voter , it doesn't make any sense | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? " Why don’t we want a second referendum. Because If so many people don’t respect the initial vote, what makes you think that the outcome of a second referendum, will be respected. And even if remain win you’ll be bitching and moaning at anyone who doesn’t respect the outcome. | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? Why don’t we want a second referendum. Because If so many people don’t respect the initial vote, what makes you think that the outcome of a second referendum, will be respected. And even if remain win you’ll be bitching and moaning at anyone who doesn’t respect the outcome. " that is just tit for tat Surely all our futures and that of our families and future generations deserve this huge decision to be taken seriously ?? I've already said I respect the vote of 2016 but what it has amounted to is far off the mark !it's not a playground spat ! | |||
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"Tell you what - if there is another vote then its the end of democracy - simple as that !!!" who says so ? You ? Lol | |||
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"Tell you what - if there is another vote then its the end of democracy - simple as that !!!" I'm wondering what you will do about it ? Not vote again ? | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? Why don’t we want a second referendum. Because If so many people don’t respect the initial vote, what makes you think that the outcome of a second referendum, will be respected. And even if remain win you’ll be bitching and moaning at anyone who doesn’t respect the outcome. that is just tit for tat Surely all our futures and that of our families and future generations deserve this huge decision to be taken seriously ?? I've already said I respect the vote of 2016 but what it has amounted to is far off the mark !it's not a playground spat ! " There were 2 questions Leave the EU Or remain in the EU There was not a question saying leave the EU only if we get a deal. All through the campaign it was clear that we negotiate and hopefully leave with a good deal. It was also made clear that no deal was better than a bad deal. I don’t remember it saying Leave the EU only if we get a good deal, otherwise we revoke articke 50. | |||
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"Tell you what - if there is another vote then its the end of democracy - simple as that !!!I'm wondering what you will do about it ? Not vote again ? " | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? Why don’t we want a second referendum. Because If so many people don’t respect the initial vote, what makes you think that the outcome of a second referendum, will be respected. And even if remain win you’ll be bitching and moaning at anyone who doesn’t respect the outcome. that is just tit for tat Surely all our futures and that of our families and future generations deserve this huge decision to be taken seriously ?? I've already said I respect the vote of 2016 but what it has amounted to is far off the mark !it's not a playground spat ! There were 2 questions Leave the EU Or remain in the EU There was not a question saying leave the EU only if we get a deal. All through the campaign it was clear that we negotiate and hopefully leave with a good deal. It was also made clear that no deal was better than a bad deal. I don’t remember it saying Leave the EU only if we get a good deal, otherwise we revoke articke 50. " so can you explain to me why our sovereign parliament is having such a hard time agreeing on a way out ??? | |||
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"No - like you I will roll over and let them tickle my tummy !! Tell you what - if there is another vote then its the end of democracy - simple as that !!!I'm wondering what you will do about it ? Not vote again ? " lol more like you will roll over and let the rest of the world shit on Ur face loly | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? Why don’t we want a second referendum. Because If so many people don’t respect the initial vote, what makes you think that the outcome of a second referendum, will be respected. And even if remain win you’ll be bitching and moaning at anyone who doesn’t respect the outcome. that is just tit for tat Surely all our futures and that of our families and future generations deserve this huge decision to be taken seriously ?? I've already said I respect the vote of 2016 but what it has amounted to is far off the mark !it's not a playground spat ! " Why are we in this situation? Parliament voted to respect the result of the 2016 referendum back in 2015. I'm guessing they all thought we would vote to stay in the EU so were quite happy to say they will repect the result. Hence Parliament never made a plan to leave! The result however didn't go the way that the politicians expected and that's the problem. We have politicians ignoring that they voted to repect the result and doing their best to stop the UK leaving. The EU don't want us to leave so have played hard ball from day one to discourage any other nation from thinking about leaving. We can't make any trade deals yet because as EU members we are not allowed to. The PM is getting the blame but she voted to stay but is doing her best to deliver the result of the referendum. The Labour party is more interested in a general election and has been playing political games rather than repecting the referendum result. The list goes on I'm sad to say! | |||
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"vote again ? lol more like you will roll over and let the rest of the world shit on Ur face loly " | |||
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"Oh dear - what a horrible response - Eurotunnel is still open I believe - does a one way ticket tempt you maybe !! vote again ? lol more like you will roll over and let the rest of the world shit on Ur face loly "attention everyone , this is the calibre of some of the people who got us in this sorry mess , god help all us ! | |||
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"Tell you what - if there is another vote then its the end of democracy - simple as that !!!" Very funny
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?Ur a leave voter not me so why don't you answer that question ? Because I asked you!and I batted it back to you who knows what the answers are , right ? Why don’t we want a second referendum. Because If so many people don’t respect the initial vote, what makes you think that the outcome of a second referendum, will be respected. And even if remain win you’ll be bitching and moaning at anyone who doesn’t respect the outcome. that is just tit for tat Surely all our futures and that of our families and future generations deserve this huge decision to be taken seriously ?? I've already said I respect the vote of 2016 but what it has amounted to is far off the mark !it's not a playground spat ! Why are we in this situation? Parliament voted to respect the result of the 2016 referendum back in 2015. I'm guessing they all thought we would vote to stay in the EU so were quite happy to say they will repect the result. Hence Parliament never made a plan to leave! The result however didn't go the way that the politicians expected and that's the problem. We have politicians ignoring that they voted to repect the result and doing their best to stop the UK leaving. The EU don't want us to leave so have played hard ball from day one to discourage any other nation from thinking about leaving. We can't make any trade deals yet because as EU members we are not allowed to. The PM is getting the blame but she voted to stay but is doing her best to deliver the result of the referendum. The Labour party is more interested in a general election and has been playing political games rather than repecting the referendum result. The list goes on I'm sad to say!"
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" We all know that democracy is about letting the people choose when circumstances change, so clearly another vote is a good idea " | |||
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"Do you not need to let the 1st vote to get in place before the 2nd vote - thats my understanding of democracy - maybe yours is THe New Democracy ! We all know that democracy is about letting the people choose when circumstances change, so clearly another vote is a good idea "what is the new democracy ? Please explain , how the hell can this island nation and northern Ireland move on when our sovereign parliament is in a check mate ? Explain please | |||
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"Tell you what - if there is another vote then its the end of democracy - simple as that !!!" Haha this is so good! No hint of irony in that statement! | |||
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"Tell you what - if there is another vote then its the end of democracy - simple as that !!! Haha this is so good! No hint of irony in that statement!" that will have flown over thier heads I'm sad to say | |||
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"We all know that democracy is about letting the people choose when circumstances change, so clearly another vote is a good idea what is the new democracy ? Please explain , how the hell can this island nation and northern Ireland move on when our sovereign parliament is in a check mate ? Explain please "Quite simple - we voted for Brexit - it has to happen as per the democratic vote - see if its not what you want then i due course another election will happen - in the meantime we should all calm down and see what transpires with the will of the people !!! | |||
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"The New Democracy ! Is that where we all keep voting until we get the right answer. Wait well never get the right answer if we just keep votin, because we don’t agree with the last result. " ahhhhh that old chestnut well sometimes in life things need a second opinion , we all have the right to that ? | |||
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"The New Democracy ! Is that where we all keep voting until we get the right answer. Wait well never get the right answer if we just keep votin, because we don’t agree with the last result. " Are you arguing with yourself? Who won? So you're suggesting we end democracy now, stick with what we've got regardless of the consequences? | |||
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"We all know that democracy is about letting the people choose when circumstances change, so clearly another vote is a good idea what is the new democracy ? Please explain , how the hell can this island nation and northern Ireland move on when our sovereign parliament is in a check mate ? Explain please
Quite simple - we voted for Brexit - it has to happen as per the democratic vote - see if its not what you want then i due course another election will happen - in the meantime we should all calm down and see what transpires with the will of the people !!!"I didn't vote for brexit tho and why should I stand quiet and watch the country I'm a citizen of be washed down the drain ? You should be in parliament cos it seems you would be able to make things go like clockwork | |||
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"The vote happened - Brexit is real Whether we want it or not we have to live with it !" Worst reason so far to go ahead with Brexit, and there have been plenty of stinkers. Congratulations. | |||
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"The vote happened - Brexit is real Whether we want it or not we have to live with it ! Worst reason so far to go ahead with Brexit, and there have been plenty of stinkers. Congratulations." | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going "grow up | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going grow up "uve not read the thread have you ? It's way past 3.8 m now loly ! | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going :-grow up " Voice of reason at last ! | |||
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"3.82m signatures, we’re having such fun. Lets keep going :-grow up Voice of reason at last !" hehe I'm going to bed night night , it's been fun !  | |||
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"“EuropeanUnionReferendumBill 2015-16 5. Types of referendum This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It DOES NOT contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution.” The referendum was simply to consult the public and ask their opinion. As it says in the bill, there was no requirement to implement any change. Yet some leavers are now making a song and dance about the ‘dying of democracy’ if they don’t get their own way. The threshold of 40% of the electorate was not met, but on top of that, the fact is that 63% of the electorate did not vote for such a change. Why should a minority of the electorate have the power to make a constitutional change off the back of what amounts to an opinion poll? The referendum result was quite clear - the UK by overwhelming majority expressed the opinion - ‘no change’ Some didn’t want to leave the EU. Others abstained for whatever reason. As we are in the EU already, it should default to no change. " | |||
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"“EuropeanUnionReferendumBill 2015-16 5. Types of referendum This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It DOES NOT contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution.” The referendum was simply to consult the public and ask their opinion. As it says in the bill, there was no requirement to implement any change. Yet some leavers are now making a song and dance about the ‘dying of democracy’ if they don’t get their own way. The threshold of 40% of the electorate was not met, but on top of that, the fact is that 63% of the electorate did not vote for such a change. Why should a minority of the electorate have the power to make a constitutional change off the back of what amounts to an opinion poll? The referendum result was quite clear - the UK by overwhelming majority expressed the opinion - ‘no change’ Some didn’t want to leave the EU. Others abstained for whatever reason. As we are in the EU already, it should default to no change. " What utter Drivel. The referendum is not legally binding, but the law was changed. When TM invokes Articke 50 and setting the countdown clock. So change is in law, we can only have no change if we go back and ask the EU if we can come back. | |||
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"“EuropeanUnionReferendumBill 2015-16 5. Types of referendum This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It DOES NOT contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution.” The referendum was simply to consult the public and ask their opinion. As it says in the bill, there was no requirement to implement any change. Yet some leavers are now making a song and dance about the ‘dying of democracy’ if they don’t get their own way. The threshold of 40% of the electorate was not met, but on top of that, the fact is that 63% of the electorate did not vote for such a change. Why should a minority of the electorate have the power to make a constitutional change off the back of what amounts to an opinion poll? The referendum result was quite clear - the UK by overwhelming majority expressed the opinion - ‘no change’ Some didn’t want to leave the EU. Others abstained for whatever reason. As we are in the EU already, it should default to no change. " The 60% you quote that did not vote, obviously did not care either way, as if they did they would have gone and voted to leave or remain. | |||
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"“EuropeanUnionReferendumBill 2015-16 5. Types of referendum This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It DOES NOT contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution.” The referendum was simply to consult the public and ask their opinion. As it says in the bill, there was no requirement to implement any change. Yet some leavers are now making a song and dance about the ‘dying of democracy’ if they don’t get their own way. The threshold of 40% of the electorate was not met, but on top of that, the fact is that 63% of the electorate did not vote for such a change. Why should a minority of the electorate have the power to make a constitutional change off the back of what amounts to an opinion poll? The referendum result was quite clear - the UK by overwhelming majority expressed the opinion - ‘no change’ Some didn’t want to leave the EU. Others abstained for whatever reason. As we are in the EU already, it should default to no change. " As we already know, at the referendum Leave won 51.89 per cent of the vote and Remain won 48.11 per cent. The Electoral Commission reports that the overall turnout was 72.21 percent. These figures imply that 34.73 per cent of the entire electorate voted to Remain. | |||
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"“EuropeanUnionReferendumBill 2015-16 5. Types of referendum This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It DOES NOT contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution.” The referendum was simply to consult the public and ask their opinion. As it says in the bill, there was no requirement to implement any change. Yet some leavers are now making a song and dance about the ‘dying of democracy’ if they don’t get their own way. The threshold of 40% of the electorate was not met, but on top of that, the fact is that 63% of the electorate did not vote for such a change. Why should a minority of the electorate have the power to make a constitutional change off the back of what amounts to an opinion poll? The referendum result was quite clear - the UK by overwhelming majority expressed the opinion - ‘no change’ Some didn’t want to leave the EU. Others abstained for whatever reason. As we are in the EU already, it should default to no change. What utter Drivel. The referendum is not legally binding, but the law was changed. When TM invokes Articke 50 and setting the countdown clock. So change is in law, we can only have no change if we go back and ask the EU if we can come back. " The law was not changed. The referendum, as stated in the bill above, clearly states it was “consultative”. There was no requirement to take action on it. As 63% did not express their opinion to change from the status quo, the triggering of article 50 should never have happened. However, individuals within the government had planned for the UK to leave all along. The bill included strict rules on no foreign donors. No amount more than £500 could be received by any campaign group from any person or company etc from outside the UK - a clear acknowledgement by Parliament that foreign interference would affect our democratic process. Rules on equal spending also included - an acknowledgement that if one campaign group had more spends than the other it would be anti-democratic. Yet Rupert Murdoch was allowed to campaign his foreign arse off with the incredible ability to reach out to the electorate like no other person or group could ever, considering his ownership of so much of UK news media. The previous two acknowledgements of foreign interference and equal spending in one hand - the foreign billionaire media mogul Murdoch in the other... and we are supposed to believe that the government did not want leave to win? They clearly must have known leave would win under such conditions. | |||
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"“EuropeanUnionReferendumBill 2015-16 5. Types of referendum This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It DOES NOT contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution.” The referendum was simply to consult the public and ask their opinion. As it says in the bill, there was no requirement to implement any change. Yet some leavers are now making a song and dance about the ‘dying of democracy’ if they don’t get their own way. The threshold of 40% of the electorate was not met, but on top of that, the fact is that 63% of the electorate did not vote for such a change. Why should a minority of the electorate have the power to make a constitutional change off the back of what amounts to an opinion poll? The referendum result was quite clear - the UK by overwhelming majority expressed the opinion - ‘no change’ Some didn’t want to leave the EU. Others abstained for whatever reason. As we are in the EU already, it should default to no change. The 60% you quote that did not vote, obviously did not care either way, as if they did they would have gone and voted to leave or remain. " That’s not how a consultative referendum works. Abstentions should also be regarded by the government. The opinion came in on the day that 63% did not express any desire for change. So change should not have been implemented. | |||
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"“EuropeanUnionReferendumBill 2015-16 5. Types of referendum This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It DOES NOT contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution.” The referendum was simply to consult the public and ask their opinion. As it says in the bill, there was no requirement to implement any change. Yet some leavers are now making a song and dance about the ‘dying of democracy’ if they don’t get their own way. The threshold of 40% of the electorate was not met, but on top of that, the fact is that 63% of the electorate did not vote for such a change. Why should a minority of the electorate have the power to make a constitutional change off the back of what amounts to an opinion poll? The referendum result was quite clear - the UK by overwhelming majority expressed the opinion - ‘no change’ Some didn’t want to leave the EU. Others abstained for whatever reason. As we are in the EU already, it should default to no change. Yawn. Legislators was passed to invoke article 50. We give you facts we give you figures, we give you evidences, quite frankly all you give us, is abuse and it was not faircomnents oh and Honda, who by the way are not leaving because to Brexit. I also quite rightly remember that the media was biased from both sides and thev BBC being the absolute worst, when it came to impartiality. What utter Drivel. The referendum is not legally binding, but the law was changed. When TM invokes Articke 50 and setting the countdown clock. So change is in law, we can only have no change if we go back and ask the EU if we can come back. The law was not changed. The referendum, as stated in the bill above, clearly states it was “consultative”. There was no requirement to take action on it. As 63% did not express their opinion to change from the status quo, the triggering of article 50 should never have happened. However, individuals within the government had planned for the UK to leave all along. The bill included strict rules on no foreign donors. No amount more than £500 could be received by any campaign group from any person or company etc from outside the UK - a clear acknowledgement by Parliament that foreign interference would affect our democratic process. Rules on equal spending also included - an acknowledgement that if one campaign group had more spends than the other it would be anti-democratic. Yet Rupert Murdoch was allowed to campaign his foreign arse off with the incredible ability to reach out to the electorate like no other person or group could ever, considering his ownership of so much of UK news media. The previous two acknowledgements of foreign interference and equal spending in one hand - the foreign billionaire media mogul Murdoch in the other... and we are supposed to believe that the government did not want leave to win? They clearly must have known leave would win under such conditions. " | |||
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"Reading a lot of the remainers posts it's like deja vu of project fear in the run up of the referendum. What I would like to hear is some positives of staying in the EU. Not what is already in place but what will happened to the EU in 10 or 20 years time. Size, laws, mandates etc. Nobody is telling us anything things like that. The EU has a long term plan but have they been saying what it is because I can't remember it? Also it's such a shame that so many people think the UK is not good enough to stand on it own two feet. Im so glad the people of the UK didn't have the same attitude 80 years ago. I don't know who your MEP is but UK residents have representatives that work for them by representation in the EU parliament. The head of each member country also has responsibility for voting on accepting future changes - as the other countries' heads of government are doing now upon the UKs exit deal. The UK Prime Minister is at fault, should you not be informed. If you passively sit waiting for knowledge or other citizens to educate you on the benefits of EU membership, you will likely remain ignorant. People who today want to remain are a diverse group of people, each having their own reasons, including many who would voted to leave but now pick to stay, as it's preferable to the leave options to them. The leave group and Conservative political party never decided what its leave requirements were but had some 'red lines'. They didn't make a plan either. Some specific leave options were categorically ruled out in the referendum campaigning but are now being imposed as ways people may be forced to leave. Being angry about fraudulent deceit, having the worst case scenario forced on to you, which could have massive financial and other damage imposed on you, you may see as negativity but this is about a huge number of people with serious harm imposed upon them, whilst there are valid choices that comply with the pre-referendum promises that some instead are insisting upon with malice and disregard for others wellbeing. Those who are open about potential problems are pursuing positive mitigation tactics that should be welcomed by all. A question to you. Do you respect the result of the EU referendum. The vote of the people of the UK? I respect the democratic vote of the referendum yes ! but the brexit that was promised falls far far short of that promise land the leave campaign depicted , leave voters are seemingly accepting any deal to get out whether it ruins this country our livelihood and the future of our young families , the learned people of our parliament can't agree on the exit deal so how the fuck is a country to be United on it ? It's a total and utter shambles and I for one are ashamed to call myself British ! So if you do respect the result how would you deliver Brexit by the 29th?" Too late, it's not happening by the 29th. You won, get over it | |||
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