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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
This was their plan. If this is what people voted for then I think another referendum is more than appropriate:
"A framework for taking back control and establishing a new UK-EU deal after 23 June
June 15, 2016
If we Vote Leave on 23 June, the Government will need a roadmap to implement the policy voted for by the public.
Vote Leave believes there should be 1) a negotiation strategy for the informal talks that will precede the formal negotiations leading to a new UK-EU treaty, 2) immediate legislation in the current session of Parliament and, 3) a framework for legislation and policy decisions between 2016 and 2020 of which the centrepiece is the repeal by 2020 of the European Communities Act 1972 (ECA). We can also start negotiating new trade deals to promote free trade before we have left the EU.
The Government should outline to Parliament the legislative steps needed to give effect to the public’s vote. Flexibility will be vital. There is no need to rush the process. The precise details and the exact timing of the final settlement will only be clear when the Prime Minister’s new negotiating team engages and negotiations begin.
Given the importance of securing a good deal in the national interest and the cross-party nature of the Leave campaign we believe the Government should invite figures from other parties, business, the law and civil society to join the negotiating team. There is a precedent for broad-based representation in talks such as these. The UK delegation which attended talks on the original EU Constitution included a Conservative MP, David Heathcoat-Amory and Labour’s Gisela Stuart MP, now Chair of Vote Leave.
The ECA should, of course, be amended quickly but should not be repealed in full until the formal negotiations are complete and the new UK-EU Treaty is clear. When the ECA is repealed Parliament will decide carefully which areas of existing EU law should a) be kept, b) be amended and c) be removed.
It is only after informal negotiations with both other EU members and the Commission that issues such as whether and how to use Article 50 will be clear. It makes no sense to trigger Article 50 immediately after the 23 June vote and before extensive preliminary discussions.
Funding to organisations from the EU will continue unaffected as the negotiations happen and the Government should continue that funding until the end of the Parliament in 2020.
It will be possible to negotiate a new settlement with the EU, including a UK-EU free trade deal, by the next general election in May 2020. This is mainly because 1) there is already tariff-free trade between the UK and the EU and 2) there is already regulatory equivalence, so the main stumbling blocks to negotiating a trade agreement are absent. It is also in all countries’ economic and political interests for there to be a friendly deal that will increase and improve international cooperation." |
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Every single point within this document has been ignored or shown to be nonsense. Not one of the suggested actions and requirements have been met.
By the criteria of Vote Leave themselves, the UK is not ready to leave the EU and should not be allowed to. Vote Leave should be demanding that A50 is immediately cancelled, and that a new government should re-start the process. By the analysis of Vote Leave themselves, leaving with no deal is not in the economic or political interests of anybody. |
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over a year ago
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Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back?"
This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.All we have is speculation and have not forgot the lies that were peddled what would happen if we dare to leave, none of which come true why would anyone believe the same liars now.Common sense tells you neither the uk or the eu want to stop trading and it will all be sorted when they actually get down to talking about it which cant happen until we leave(eu law not uk).
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"Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back?This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.All we have is speculation and have not forgot the lies that were peddled what would happen if we dare to leave, none of which come true why would anyone believe the same liars now.Common sense tells you neither the uk or the eu want to stop trading and it will all be sorted when they actually get down to talking about it which cant happen until we leave(eu law not uk)."
Where do you get your rose tinted spectacles from? Being a gambler, you know that you have to be prepared to lose everything - that is much more likely with Leave than Remain. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back?This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.All we have is speculation and have not forgot the lies that were peddled what would happen if we dare to leave, none of which come true why would anyone believe the same liars now.Common sense tells you neither the uk or the eu want to stop trading and it will all be sorted when they actually get down to talking about it which cant happen until we leave(eu law not uk).
Where do you get your rose tinted spectacles from? Being a gambler, you know that you have to be prepared to lose everything - that is much more likely with Leave than Remain."
Probably the same place you get your pessimism from. |
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"Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back?This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.All we have is speculation and have not forgot the lies that were peddled what would happen if we dare to leave, none of which come true why would anyone believe the same liars now.Common sense tells you neither the uk or the eu want to stop trading and it will all be sorted when they actually get down to talking about it which cant happen until we leave(eu law not uk).
Where do you get your rose tinted spectacles from? Being a gambler, you know that you have to be prepared to lose everything - that is much more likely with Leave than Remain.Probably the same place you get your pessimism from."
Leave - odds of losing very high, odds of gaining very low - chance of a great return, but pretty unlikely.
Remain - odds of losing pretty low, but odds of gaining reasonable - likelihood of a good return, but not massive.
So from a gambling perspective you would go Remain as odds of gaining are higher (odds x return), but for a speculative bet you can afford to lose you’d go Leave.
The thing is we can’t afford to lose this one... |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading."
Look how big a pickle we’ve got ourselves in just trying to settle the terms of the divorce. Our politicians can’t agree on anything.
And you want to add trade talks?
The trade negotiation will be 100 times more difficult than the withdrawal agreement, even more so if every MP wants to argue the cause of different sectors in their constituencies.
It would have poisoned the exit process if, at the same time, we were haggling between ourselves and with our neighbours about which sectors need protection and which do not.
In any event, the UK Government has declared unilateral tarrif disarmament, so what is there to discuss (other than the illegality of aspects of UK policy in relation to Ireland cross-border trade)?
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back?This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.All we have is speculation and have not forgot the lies that were peddled what would happen if we dare to leave, none of which come true why would anyone believe the same liars now.Common sense tells you neither the uk or the eu want to stop trading and it will all be sorted when they actually get down to talking about it which cant happen until we leave(eu law not uk).
Where do you get your rose tinted spectacles from? Being a gambler, you know that you have to be prepared to lose everything - that is much more likely with Leave than Remain.Probably the same place you get your pessimism from.
Leave - odds of losing very high, odds of gaining very low - chance of a great return, but pretty unlikely.
Remain - odds of losing pretty low, but odds of gaining reasonable - likelihood of a good return, but not massive.
So from a gambling perspective you would go Remain as odds of gaining are higher (odds x return), but for a speculative bet you can afford to lose you’d go Leave.
The thing is we can’t afford to lose this one..."
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"Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back?This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.All we have is speculation and have not forgot the lies that were peddled what would happen if we dare to leave, none of which come true why would anyone believe the same liars now.Common sense tells you neither the uk or the eu want to stop trading and it will all be sorted when they actually get down to talking about it which cant happen until we leave(eu law not uk).
Where do you get your rose tinted spectacles from? Being a gambler, you know that you have to be prepared to lose everything - that is much more likely with Leave than Remain.Probably the same place you get your pessimism from.
Leave - odds of losing very high, odds of gaining very low - chance of a great return, but pretty unlikely.
Remain - odds of losing pretty low, but odds of gaining reasonable - likelihood of a good return, but not massive.
So from a gambling perspective you would go Remain as odds of gaining are higher (odds x return), but for a speculative bet you can afford to lose you’d go Leave.
The thing is we can’t afford to lose this one...They william hill odd or betfred? "
Are they both offshore companies these days? |
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over a year ago
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"This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.
Look how big a pickle we’ve got ourselves in just trying to settle the terms of the divorce. Our politicians can’t agree on anything.
And you want to add trade talks?
The trade negotiation will be 100 times more difficult than the withdrawal agreement, even more so if every MP wants to argue the cause of different sectors in their constituencies.
It would have poisoned the exit process if, at the same time, we were haggling between ourselves and with our neighbours about which sectors need protection and which do not.
In any event, the UK Government has declared unilateral tarrif disarmament, so what is there to discuss (other than the illegality of aspects of UK policy in relation to Ireland cross-border trade)?
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My grandfather always said only bet what you can afford to lose.If you see brexit as a gamble you should of voted remain. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back?This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.All we have is speculation and have not forgot the lies that were peddled what would happen if we dare to leave, none of which come true why would anyone believe the same liars now.Common sense tells you neither the uk or the eu want to stop trading and it will all be sorted when they actually get down to talking about it which cant happen until we leave(eu law not uk)."
But we already knew those were the rules before we started. The U.K. helped draft those very rules. We can’t now turn around and say it is unfair that the EU is sticking to them.
We can’t negotiate our way out a paper bag right now. What on earth makes you think we could negotiate trade deals in parallel?!
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Hypocrite Farage gave a vision to the British people how great it will be when they leave this hated Union, from which the UK is okay. Great Britain will negotiate a great deal with the Union. And so, the Union will not manage it without them and will beg them to stay in Britain .Lud believed and went to the referendum. The result surprised everyone, even Farage himself, who quickly left the "Brexit" ship (of course, like a rat) because he knew perfectly well that the negotiations would be a failure and political death for those who would negotiate. The same thing did Cameron.Farage returned to his post in the European Parliament and watched as May conducts negotiations. Those who were to support Teresa May in negotiations, seeing how the "Brexit" ship flows into the rocks, began to flee (Borys Johnson and others from support) .Teresa May is already a political corpse and the ship "Brexit", to the delight of other countries, rubs against rocks. the last question is whether this ship will break up on March 29 or June 30 or will it suddenly be all back?This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.All we have is speculation and have not forgot the lies that were peddled what would happen if we dare to leave, none of which come true why would anyone believe the same liars now.Common sense tells you neither the uk or the eu want to stop trading and it will all be sorted when they actually get down to talking about it which cant happen until we leave(eu law not uk)."
Anything to say about the actual point of the thread? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is only the withdrawal agreement who knows what trade deal will be done? this is because the eu refused to talk about a trade deal until the withdrawal was signed if they had conducted both at the same time everyone would know which direction we were heading.
Look how big a pickle we’ve got ourselves in just trying to settle the terms of the divorce. Our politicians can’t agree on anything.
And you want to add trade talks?
The trade negotiation will be 100 times more difficult than the withdrawal agreement, even more so if every MP wants to argue the cause of different sectors in their constituencies.
It would have poisoned the exit process if, at the same time, we were haggling between ourselves and with our neighbours about which sectors need protection and which do not.
In any event, the UK Government has declared unilateral tarrif disarmament, so what is there to discuss (other than the illegality of aspects of UK policy in relation to Ireland cross-border trade)?
My grandfather always said only bet what you can afford to lose.If you see brexit as a gamble you should of voted remain. "
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over a year ago
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Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"That's rather strange....for nearly 3 years remainers have been saying that vote leave didn't have a plan."
The plan was clearly nonsense as none of it has come to pass.
There was also another leave campaign with all sorts of other ideas  |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am."
Well done then  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am."
the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am.the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything "
There is a deal for a transition agreement before leaving.
It's real. What's wrong with now asking if this is acceptable in a second referendum compared to the fantasy promises made during the campaign? |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am.the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything
There is a deal for a transition agreement before leaving.
It's real. What's wrong with now asking if this is acceptable in a second referendum compared to the fantasy promises made during the campaign? "
Who would campaign for it? |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am.the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything
There is a deal for a transition agreement before leaving.
It's real. What's wrong with now asking if this is acceptable in a second referendum compared to the fantasy promises made during the campaign?
Who would campaign for it?"
Whomsoever you like.
Leave had two contradictory campaigns last time. I'm sure they could manage a few more this time around. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Which leave campaign do you mean - there was more than one."
thats a very good question...
so do we condemn the "leave campaign" one that used the big bus red lie... and told people that the turks were coming!!!!
... or do we condemn the other "leave campaign" that used the billboard with the syrian refugees with "Breaking point" on it not telling people they last time we checked, syria wasn't part of the EU
i know.... decisions decisions!!!!!
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am.the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything
There is a deal for a transition agreement before leaving.
It's real. What's wrong with now asking if this is acceptable in a second referendum compared to the fantasy promises made during the campaign?
Who would campaign for it?
Whomsoever you like.
Leave had two contradictory campaigns last time. I'm sure they could manage a few more this time around. "
So what would the question be?
May's deal or No Deal? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am.the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything
There is a deal for a transition agreement before leaving.
It's real. What's wrong with now asking if this is acceptable in a second referendum compared to the fantasy promises made during the campaign?
Who would campaign for it?
Whomsoever you like.
Leave had two contradictory campaigns last time. I'm sure they could manage a few more this time around.
So what would the question be?
May's deal or No Deal?"
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"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am.the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything
There is a deal for a transition agreement before leaving.
It's real. What's wrong with now asking if this is acceptable in a second referendum compared to the fantasy promises made during the campaign?
Who would campaign for it?
Whomsoever you like.
Leave had two contradictory campaigns last time. I'm sure they could manage a few more this time around.
So what would the question be?
May's deal or No Deal?sounds right to me."
Tough one, MPs voted against No Deal, MPs voted against May’s deal, so it would need to include something else..., I know, Remain |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am.the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything
There is a deal for a transition agreement before leaving.
It's real. What's wrong with now asking if this is acceptable in a second referendum compared to the fantasy promises made during the campaign?
Who would campaign for it?
Whomsoever you like.
Leave had two contradictory campaigns last time. I'm sure they could manage a few more this time around.
So what would the question be?
May's deal or No Deal?sounds right to me."
Naturally it does
Would the country be wrong if it changed its mind and voted to remain if it was on the paper?
That's a yws/no answer.
Bianryso easy for you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thankyou fabbers. 1 week to go and thanks to this one thread out of all the others I realize that Leave campaign was deeply flawed for this very reason. They sold the lie that there would be a cozy chat before article 50 was triggered and that there was no way that we would leave with no deal.
Thank you for digging up this gem of information. Must admit like everyone else I did not bother to read any of the bullshit leaflets. I knew in my own heart what would be good for me and leaving most definitely was not it. Looks like I was right all along.
The stupid thing is those ruddy MPs compounded the electorates mistake by triggering article 50 anyway.
I feel so stupid and disappointed in myself. What an idiot I am.the whole thing was flawed even the remain campain what was the point in having the vote if we our vote clearly didnt mean anything
There is a deal for a transition agreement before leaving.
It's real. What's wrong with now asking if this is acceptable in a second referendum compared to the fantasy promises made during the campaign?
Who would campaign for it?
Whomsoever you like.
Leave had two contradictory campaigns last time. I'm sure they could manage a few more this time around.
So what would the question be?
May's deal or No Deal?sounds right to me.
Tough one, MPs voted against No Deal, MPs voted against May’s deal, so it would need to include something else..., I know, Remain "
Remain seems more likely as the clock ticks. .. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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So what would the question be?
May's deal or No Deal?sounds right to me.
Tough one, MPs voted against No Deal, MPs voted against May’s deal, so it would need to include something else..., I know, Remain "
how dare people have the sheer audacity to change their minds when presented with actual facts rather than just a blank cheque!!!
tree hugging liberal hippy pinko guardian reading commie!!!!! |
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So what would the question be?
May's deal or No Deal?sounds right to me.
Tough one, MPs voted against No Deal, MPs voted against May’s deal, so it would need to include something else..., I know, Remain
how dare people have the sheer audacity to change their minds when presented with actual facts rather than just a blank cheque!!!
tree hugging liberal hippy pinko guardian reading commie!!!!! "
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