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over a year ago
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"Continue here, the votes are in and they didnt lose as much, but still a big los of 149, is brexit cancelled? lol  it's looking promising for Brexit to be fizzled out I think "
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"Continue here, the votes are in and they didnt lose as much, but still a big los of 149, is brexit cancelled? lol it's looking promising for Brexit to be fizzled out I think Yes it does, remain will win."
If it does, the far right will rise. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Continue here, the votes are in and they didnt lose as much, but still a big los of 149, is brexit cancelled? lol it's looking promising for Brexit to be fizzled out I think Yes it does, remain will win.
If it does, the far right will rise. "
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Last nights vote actually means nothing.
It is written into UK law that we leave the European Union at 11pm on the 29th March 2019, whether we have a deal or not.
Whatever the house votes on, whether it be to block a no deal or to ask for an extension, Parliament would need to make changes to the legislation that takes us out.
Let's, just for arguments sake, suppose that tonight MP's vote for an extension.
Never mind the civil unrest that might result from it, but purely from a legal standpoint, firstly, Theresa May would have to approach the EU and ask for an extension.
This will then be discussed with the other 27 member states at their next Summit next week on 21st March.
If - and it's a big IF, they agree, Parliament would then have less than 7 days to make changes to the legislation.
Oh, and they don't work weekends, so let's call it 5 days.
It's simply not possible.
We will be leaving, on 29th March without a deal. |
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"Last nights vote actually means nothing.
It is written into UK law that we leave the European Union at 11pm on the 29th March 2019, whether we have a deal or not.
Whatever the house votes on, whether it be to block a no deal or to ask for an extension, Parliament would need to make changes to the legislation that takes us out.
Let's, just for arguments sake, suppose that tonight MP's vote for an extension.
Never mind the civil unrest that might result from it, but purely from a legal standpoint, firstly, Theresa May would have to approach the EU and ask for an extension.
This will then be discussed with the other 27 member states at their next Summit next week on 21st March.
If - and it's a big IF, they agree, Parliament would then have less than 7 days to make changes to the legislation.
Oh, and they don't work weekends, so let's call it 5 days.
It's simply not possible.
We will be leaving, on 29th March without a deal."
this is also my reading of the situation. I also think (as you point out) an extension to article 50 is not a given. Nigel Farage is looking to influence friends and allies of his in Europe to veto any extension to article 50. This would keep the March 29th deadline which is set in both EU law (article 50) and UK law (the EU withdrawal bill). |
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"Last nights vote actually means nothing.
It is written into UK law that we leave the European Union at 11pm on the 29th March 2019, whether we have a deal or not.
Whatever the house votes on, whether it be to block a no deal or to ask for an extension, Parliament would need to make changes to the legislation that takes us out.
Let's, just for arguments sake, suppose that tonight MP's vote for an extension.
Never mind the civil unrest that might result from it, but purely from a legal standpoint, firstly, Theresa May would have to approach the EU and ask for an extension.
This will then be discussed with the other 27 member states at their next Summit next week on 21st March.
If - and it's a big IF, they agree, Parliament would then have less than 7 days to make changes to the legislation.
Oh, and they don't work weekends, so let's call it 5 days.
It's simply not possible.
We will be leaving, on 29th March without a deal.
this is also my reading of the situation. I also think (as you point out) an extension to article 50 is not a given. Nigel Farage is looking to influence friends and allies of his in Europe to veto any extension to article 50. This would keep the March 29th deadline which is set in both EU law (article 50) and UK law (the EU withdrawal bill). "
Is this not treason from Farage? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Last nights vote actually means nothing.
It is written into UK law that we leave the European Union at 11pm on the 29th March 2019, whether we have a deal or not.
Whatever the house votes on, whether it be to block a no deal or to ask for an extension, Parliament would need to make changes to the legislation that takes us out.
Let's, just for arguments sake, suppose that tonight MP's vote for an extension.
Never mind the civil unrest that might result from it, but purely from a legal standpoint, firstly, Theresa May would have to approach the EU and ask for an extension.
This will then be discussed with the other 27 member states at their next Summit next week on 21st March.
If - and it's a big IF, they agree, Parliament would then have less than 7 days to make changes to the legislation.
Oh, and they don't work weekends, so let's call it 5 days.
It's simply not possible.
We will be leaving, on 29th March without a deal.
this is also my reading of the situation. I also think (as you point out) an extension to article 50 is not a given. Nigel Farage is looking to influence friends and allies of his in Europe to veto any extension to article 50. This would keep the March 29th deadline which is set in both EU law (article 50) and UK law (the EU withdrawal bill). "
You are aware that there is insufficient time to pass all the requirements for a no deal Brexit into British law? It would be chaos, but then Farage is all for that, and his looney followers! |
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"Last nights vote actually means nothing.
It is written into UK law that we leave the European Union at 11pm on the 29th March 2019, whether we have a deal or not.
Whatever the house votes on, whether it be to block a no deal or to ask for an extension, Parliament would need to make changes to the legislation that takes us out.
Let's, just for arguments sake, suppose that tonight MP's vote for an extension.
Never mind the civil unrest that might result from it, but purely from a legal standpoint, firstly, Theresa May would have to approach the EU and ask for an extension.
This will then be discussed with the other 27 member states at their next Summit next week on 21st March.
If - and it's a big IF, they agree, Parliament would then have less than 7 days to make changes to the legislation.
Oh, and they don't work weekends, so let's call it 5 days.
It's simply not possible.
We will be leaving, on 29th March without a deal.
this is also my reading of the situation. I also think (as you point out) an extension to article 50 is not a given. Nigel Farage is looking to influence friends and allies of his in Europe to veto any extension to article 50. This would keep the March 29th deadline which is set in both EU law (article 50) and UK law (the EU withdrawal bill).
Is this not treason from Farage? "
The likes of Tony Blair have been conspiring with the EU for months against the UK and against Brexit, so don't start complaining now when Farage decides to take similar action in Europe from the opposite side in favour of Brexit. |
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"Last nights vote actually means nothing.
It is written into UK law that we leave the European Union at 11pm on the 29th March 2019, whether we have a deal or not.
Whatever the house votes on, whether it be to block a no deal or to ask for an extension, Parliament would need to make changes to the legislation that takes us out.
Let's, just for arguments sake, suppose that tonight MP's vote for an extension.
Never mind the civil unrest that might result from it, but purely from a legal standpoint, firstly, Theresa May would have to approach the EU and ask for an extension.
This will then be discussed with the other 27 member states at their next Summit next week on 21st March.
If - and it's a big IF, they agree, Parliament would then have less than 7 days to make changes to the legislation.
Oh, and they don't work weekends, so let's call it 5 days.
It's simply not possible.
We will be leaving, on 29th March without a deal.
this is also my reading of the situation. I also think (as you point out) an extension to article 50 is not a given. Nigel Farage is looking to influence friends and allies of his in Europe to veto any extension to article 50. This would keep the March 29th deadline which is set in both EU law (article 50) and UK law (the EU withdrawal bill).
You are aware that there is insufficient time to pass all the requirements for a no deal Brexit into British law? It would be chaos, but then Farage is all for that, and his looney followers!"
No additional legislation needs to be passed, no deal is already the default legal position. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tusk has just tweeted “I will appeal to the EU27 to be open to a long extension”
Plenty of time for another referendum. Happy days.  "
The Irish foreight minister seems to think 21 months would give everyone enough time. |
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"Tusk has just tweeted “I will appeal to the EU27 to be open to a long extension”
Plenty of time for another referendum. Happy days.
The Irish foreight minister seems to think 21 months would give everyone enough time. "
If we just revoke A50, then it is back under our control as opposed to being forced to reach a compromise due to running the clock down. May has proven that we cannot agree what Brexit we want, so revoke A50 and establish what the options actually could be and realistically show how they will impact us.
It is already clear that everything other than EU membership is to a greater or slightly less degree a negative impact to the UK. Instead of lies, people should be given the facts and lies should be prosecuted.
Most people who voted did it as a protest vote, so we need to see what the protest was actually about. Nobody I know voted for the shambles we have created for ourselfs. None of this is the EUs doing, this is the Tory Party acting like idiots and Corbyn just letting them get on with it - he is not guilt free...
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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No additional legislation needs to be passed, no deal is already the default legal position. "
Our legal system is full of holes if the UK exits without an agreement. The necessary legislation to fill those gaps is not in place. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Is this not treason from Farage? "
We know the leave campaign was aided and abetted by American and Russian influence and money.
Why would anyone think it suddenly stopped the day after the referendum? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Last nights vote actually means nothing.
It is written into UK law that we leave the European Union at 11pm on the 29th March 2019, whether we have a deal or not.
Whatever the house votes on, whether it be to block a no deal or to ask for an extension, Parliament would need to make changes to the legislation that takes us out.
Let's, just for arguments sake, suppose that tonight MP's vote for an extension.
Never mind the civil unrest that might result from it, but purely from a legal standpoint, firstly, Theresa May would have to approach the EU and ask for an extension.
This will then be discussed with the other 27 member states at their next Summit next week on 21st March.
If - and it's a big IF, they agree, Parliament would then have less than 7 days to make changes to the legislation.
Oh, and they don't work weekends, so let's call it 5 days.
It's simply not possible.
We will be leaving, on 29th March without a deal.
this is also my reading of the situation. I also think (as you point out) an extension to article 50 is not a given. Nigel Farage is looking to influence friends and allies of his in Europe to veto any extension to article 50. This would keep the March 29th deadline which is set in both EU law (article 50) and UK law (the EU withdrawal bill).
Is this not treason from Farage? "
And Arron Banks as he’s been doing the same.
Both traitors that should be given life sentences. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Tusk has just tweeted “I will appeal to the EU27 to be open to a long extension”
Plenty of time for another referendum. Happy days.
The Irish foreight minister seems to think 21 months would give everyone enough time.
If we just revoke A50, then it is back under our control as opposed to being forced to reach a compromise due to running the clock down. May has proven that we cannot agree what Brexit we want, so revoke A50 and establish what the options actually could be and realistically show how they will impact us.
It is already clear that everything other than EU membership is to a greater or slightly less degree a negative impact to the UK. Instead of lies, people should be given the facts and lies should be prosecuted.
Most people who voted did it as a protest vote, so we need to see what the protest was actually about. Nobody I know voted for the shambles we have created for ourselfs. None of this is the EUs doing, this is the Tory Party acting like idiots and Corbyn just letting them get on with it - he is not guilt free...
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Mostly agree with you here.
The protest - unbeknownst to many of the protestors, was against successive neoliberal governments that serve only the interests of corporations and shit on society.
Unfortunately the corporate media falsely laid the blame on the EU, when the problem was in Westminster.
However I think Corbyn has done well actually. It’s not so simple a thing as to just come out in absolute defiance. He needed to strategise based upon more than just what he or Labour would ideally like to do. The MSM are a big part of why Labour have had to take the route that they have. It might not appear so but things could have been much worse if they’d gone about it differently - more directly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Brexit was a social engineering experiment to devide the entire country and distract us from the Tories asset stripping the country...We have all been played."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Last nights vote actually means nothing.
It is written into UK law that we leave the European Union at 11pm on the 29th March 2019, whether we have a deal or not.
Whatever the house votes on, whether it be to block a no deal or to ask for an extension, Parliament would need to make changes to the legislation that takes us out.
Let's, just for arguments sake, suppose that tonight MP's vote for an extension.
Never mind the civil unrest that might result from it, but purely from a legal standpoint, firstly, Theresa May would have to approach the EU and ask for an extension.
This will then be discussed with the other 27 member states at their next Summit next week on 21st March.
If - and it's a big IF, they agree, Parliament would then have less than 7 days to make changes to the legislation.
Oh, and they don't work weekends, so let's call it 5 days.
It's simply not possible.
We will be leaving, on 29th March without a deal.
this is also my reading of the situation. I also think (as you point out) an extension to article 50 is not a given. Nigel Farage is looking to influence friends and allies of his in Europe to veto any extension to article 50. This would keep the March 29th deadline which is set in both EU law (article 50) and UK law (the EU withdrawal bill).
Is this not treason from Farage?
And Arron Banks as he’s been doing the same.
Both traitors that should be given life sentences. "
Aaron Banks is one of the worst alright. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Brexit was a social engineering experiment to devide the entire country and distract us from the Tories asset stripping the country...We have all been played."
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