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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The impact is uncertain as there are so many variables.
I think there is a high degree of confidence it will be bad for us economically and that there will be various unpleasant social impacts as a result. Very hard to quantify those with confidence though.
There is a chance it will be disastrous. Every day we don't have a trade deal makes that risk higher.
My husband works for an exporter that is struggling with shipping now. Exports due to go out next week to the far East are of concern as we don't know what tariffs they will face when they arrive. Because when we leave the EU we also leave the EU's trade deals with Japan and South Korea and other places. Nobody yet knows what replaces these.
It's very worrying. |
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I think at this moment in time it is impossible to say. We were told when we didn't join the Euro it would be a disaster. We have overcome the financial crisis albeit not without an unprecedented period of austerity which has hit the poorest hardest. But we have survived. So with the right fiscal and monetary policy, a bit of balls and can do attitude I suspect things will all work out ok. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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Just watching an Irish economist being interviewed on Sky News this morning and he pretty much nailed it with two points...
1) The world looks on bemused as the United Kingdom tears itself apart internally.
2) Ireland is in the best possible position to capitalise from the U.K. going for a hard Brexit (he put it as the U.K. chasing itself down a Nationalist rat hole)
It may be a popular thing to say on these shores that “no one really knows” what will happen but the outside world looking in seem to be laughing out loud at us and the more opportunistic are rubbing their hands in anticipation. |
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"Just watching an Irish economist being interviewed on Sky News this morning and he pretty much nailed it with two points...
1) The world looks on bemused as the United Kingdom tears itself apart internally.
2) Ireland is in the best possible position to capitalise from the U.K. going for a hard Brexit (he put it as the U.K. chasing itself down a Nationalist rat hole)
It may be a popular thing to say on these shores that “no one really knows” what will happen but the outside world looking in seem to be laughing out loud at us and the more opportunistic are rubbing their hands in anticipation."
Was it David McWilliams? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The impact is uncertain as there are so many variables.
I think there is a high degree of confidence it will be bad for us economically and that there will be various unpleasant social impacts as a result. Very hard to quantify those with confidence though.
There is a chance it will be disastrous. Every day we don't have a trade deal makes that risk higher.
My husband works for an exporter that is struggling with shipping now. Exports due to go out next week to the far East are of concern as we don't know what tariffs they will face when they arrive. Because when we leave the EU we also leave the EU's trade deals with Japan and South Korea and other places. Nobody yet knows what replaces these.
It's very worrying."
That is right, it is very worrying times ahead  |
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?"
Scotland didn't vote for independence they voted to remain part of the UK. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?"
Every objective assessment concludes Brexit will harm the economy.
The argument is about how much and for how long.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"The impact is uncertain as there are so many variables.
I think there is a high degree of confidence it will be bad for us economically and that there will be various unpleasant social impacts as a result. Very hard to quantify those with confidence though.
There is a chance it will be disastrous. Every day we don't have a trade deal makes that risk higher.
My husband works for an exporter that is struggling with shipping now. Exports due to go out next week to the far East are of concern as we don't know what tariffs they will face when they arrive. Because when we leave the EU we also leave the EU's trade deals with Japan and South Korea and other places. Nobody yet knows what replaces these.
It's very worrying."
I read something similar yesterday.
The uncertainty is really going to start biting exporters in the next few days.
Exporters of, say, malt whisky are consigning goods to the other side of the world under whatever terms of trade the EU has with the port of destination.
It takes 6-8 weeks for those exports to reach their destination.
That's on or after March 30.
They do not know what terms, if any, they will be imported on at the destination.
The real worry is they become impounded at the destination port because of the chaos.
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Just watching an Irish economist being interviewed on Sky News this morning and he pretty much nailed it with two points...
1) The world looks on bemused as the United Kingdom tears itself apart internally.
2) Ireland is in the best possible position to capitalise from the U.K. going for a hard Brexit (he put it as the U.K. chasing itself down a Nationalist rat hole)
It may be a popular thing to say on these shores that “no one really knows” what will happen but the outside world looking in seem to be laughing out loud at us and the more opportunistic are rubbing their hands in anticipation.
Was it David McWilliams?"
I don’t know, it was on in the background as I was having breakfast. I am sure the snippet will be replayed during the day or wil be on the Sky News website. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?"
So the guy in the audience was reading a prepared and scripted question from the propagandists...errmm....sorry the programme makers aimed at a panel of 'important people' who had the opportunity to examine the question and prepare responses before the show started.
Why the hell do people watch these political soap operas and consider themselves well informed about what's really going on?
I understand that people are entertained by the bickering among high profile politicians and celebs but seriously.....do people think that this type of TV show influences policy at the highest level?... or do they just bleat out propaganda that doubles down on the establishment agenda? |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Just watching an Irish economist being interviewed on Sky News this morning and he pretty much nailed it with two points...
1) The world looks on bemused as the United Kingdom tears itself apart internally.
2) Ireland is in the best possible position to capitalise from the U.K. going for a hard Brexit (he put it as the U.K. chasing itself down a Nationalist rat hole)
It may be a popular thing to say on these shores that “no one really knows” what will happen but the outside world looking in seem to be laughing out loud at us and the more opportunistic are rubbing their hands in anticipation.
Was it David McWilliams?"
Yes it was - i have found the exact quote...
"What the Brits have done is really stupid. The world is revolving so quickly that nobody cares whether the UK gets this right or not. We in Ireland obviously have a bigger exposure culturally, linguistically and historically, geographically to them.
But ultimately we should use this opportunity to enhance our brand as a globalised place to do business. And if they want to go down some sort of nationalist rathole…off they go." |
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"Just watching an Irish economist being interviewed on Sky News this morning and he pretty much nailed it with two points...
1) The world looks on bemused as the United Kingdom tears itself apart internally.
2) Ireland is in the best possible position to capitalise from the U.K. going for a hard Brexit (he put it as the U.K. chasing itself down a Nationalist rat hole)
It may be a popular thing to say on these shores that “no one really knows” what will happen but the outside world looking in seem to be laughing out loud at us and the more opportunistic are rubbing their hands in anticipation.
Was it David McWilliams?
Yes it was - i have found the exact quote...
"What the Brits have done is really stupid. The world is revolving so quickly that nobody cares whether the UK gets this right or not. We in Ireland obviously have a bigger exposure culturally, linguistically and historically, geographically to them.
But ultimately we should use this opportunity to enhance our brand as a globalised place to do business. And if they want to go down some sort of nationalist rathole…off they go.""
I know David, he is an excellent economist who has called all of the big issues over the past 20 years spot on. His views should be listened to. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?"
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off. |
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off. "
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"Ruining it hahahaha, only in the minds of wealthy middle-class frequent flyers, the rest of us think it was ruined years ago."
What did you swallow that left such a bitter taste in your mouth? |
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"Ruining it hahahaha, only in the minds of wealthy middle-class frequent flyers, the rest of us think it was ruined years ago.
What did you swallow that left such a bitter taste in your mouth?"
Probably like the rest of us
Melancholic bygone days of yore |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?"
Moan moan moan,get real at get on with your life
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"Ruining it hahahaha, only in the minds of wealthy middle-class frequent flyers, the rest of us think it was ruined years ago.Yes the day we joined the EU"
Id say more 1945
Thats when life started to return to normal & people got lazy
after fighting a war.
Instead 9f crack8ng on the lazy streak continued through to the 70s & industries that were once stron became weak & unfit . |
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Id say more 1945
Thats when life started to return to normal & people got lazy
after fighting a war.
Instead of cracking on, the lazy streak continued through to the 70s & industries that were once strong became weak & unfit .
My apologies my phone is really playing up with the keyboard at the moment. |
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"Id say more 1945
Thats when life started to return to normal & people got lazy
after fighting a war.
Instead of cracking on, the lazy streak continued through to the 70s & industries that were once strong became weak & unfit .
My apologies my phone is really playing up with the keyboard at the moment."
Laziness killed industries |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Never take anything the BBC spout serious....just biased puppets for the remoaners....never balanced views
What's your unbiased source of "facts"?"
come on mate even you must see how biased the BBC is.Don't just argue every point because the person posting has opposing views. It's as clear as day. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules. "
The UK and the EU can agree to anything they wish. We have "red lines" though and funnily enough that's why we have ended up with the situation we have.
The Article 24 nonsense that you keep repeating has been called out as rubbish countless times yet you keep blathering on about it.
WTO rules which are the hard Brexit you long for the worst trade terms on the planet. By definition.
It is not news that we can negotiate with whoever we like as a third country from the weakest trading situation possible.
Every FTA in the world is far inferior to the completely open market of the EU.
Every country in the world will wait to see what deals, if any, we can strike with the EU, the USA or China. Each one will exclude us from the others. Each one will seek to exploit our market and give the minimum in return.
The naivety of you believing that Trump will give us wonderful terms because he hates the EU and his mummy was British is laughable. It's not even in his gift. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Never take anything the BBC spout serious....just biased puppets for the remoaners....never balanced views
What's your unbiased source of "facts"?come on mate even you must see how biased the BBC is.Don't just argue every point because the person posting has opposing views. It's as clear as day."
Not really. Everyone seems to believe that the BBC is biased in some way.
It's impossible to please everyone but in that case they are in about the right place.
It doesn't make my question any less valid though.
What is your definition of an unbiased source of information? Odds on it will just be one you agree with.
What are yours? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules. "
You would think the attorney general might have mentioned this in his legal advice to the government.
I wonder why he didn’t and why he didn’t support JRM when he briefly mentioned it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Never take anything the BBC spout serious....just biased puppets for the remoaners....never balanced views
What's your unbiased source of "facts"?come on mate even you must see how biased the BBC is.Don't just argue every point because the person posting has opposing views. It's as clear as day."
BBC is owned by and operated by the british government to the point where failure to pay for the content is illegal...regardless of wheather or not you use or consume their service. Pay up or be prosecuted. Much of the BBC world service is funded by the ministry of defence alongside the license fee payer....wouldn't it be the case that the BBC would promote the government agenda worldwide? Anyone who thinks that the BBC is impartial, balanced and for the people etc is deluded or just happy to swallow what is being fed to them....ignorance is bliss right?
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules. "
Any links to suppor this claim? You know how bad I am at googling, but googling “article 24 gatt leave means leave” doesn’t spit anything supporting myth is view out. Indeed the firs hit is Reuter’s (is this biased?) whixh quotes a WTO spokesman saying “this presupposes both the Uk and EU after the process of negotiating a deal, whatver firm that deal may take. It would require both parties to agree an interim deal.”
Which sounds the opposite of a “no deal” eh ?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules. "
Suggest you Google "Jason Hunter" a qualified trade negotiator and you will be enlightened! But we will soon see who is right and who is wrong -49 days tick tock |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Never take anything the BBC spout serious....just biased puppets for the remoaners....never balanced views
What's your unbiased source of "facts"?come on mate even you must see how biased the BBC is.Don't just argue every point because the person posting has opposing views. It's as clear as day.
BBC is owned by and operated by the british government to the point where failure to pay for the content is illegal...regardless of wheather or not you use or consume their service. Pay up or be prosecuted. Much of the BBC world service is funded by the ministry of defence alongside the license fee payer....wouldn't it be the case that the BBC would promote the government agenda worldwide? Anyone who thinks that the BBC is impartial, balanced and for the people etc is deluded or just happy to swallow what is being fed to them....ignorance is bliss right?
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Again - what's your unbiased source of "facts"?
It has very deliberately not been owned and run by the British government.
That's the point of the license fee.
Good knowledge
It is as impartial as it can be notwithstanding how well anyone can completely leave their personal opinions at the door. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?"
You really need to fact check some of your posts Shag. Scotland did NOT vote for independence. The SNP, who had called for the independence referendum that was held in 2014 were hoping that the people of Scotland would vote their way, but the result was that the majority of Scots voted to remain within the United Kingdom. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules. "
House of Commons Library:
“Article 24 of the World Trade Organisation treaty allows us to continue to trade with Europe on zero tariffs while we negotiate a free trade arrangement.”
Statements like this keep returning to the political debate: in the media, among constituents and in Parliament. However, trade law experts have repeatedly and authoritatively dismissed the view that the relevant rule – General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) Article XXIV – offers an easy solution to UK trade with the EU in the case of ‘no-deal’.
The Prime Minister has also said:
“The question of GATT 24 is perhaps not quite as simple as some may have understood it to be. […] expectation that it is simply possible to leave with no deal and immediately go into that situation does not actually reflect accurately the situation that the United Kingdom would find ourselves in”. |
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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?"
The country is already in a shit pile it can't get any worse. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Strangely...the guardian. States that 556 million quid comes from the MOD and foreign office to fund the BBC worldservice. Maybe the guardian is full of shit also...but that wouldn't surprise anyone.
Btw...BBC news presenters are often giving their personal opinions on news matters. More so on BBC radio but it does often happen.
May i ask which department of the beeb you work for?  |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Strangely...the guardian. States that 556 million quid comes from the MOD and foreign office to fund the BBC worldservice. Maybe the guardian is full of shit also...but that wouldn't surprise anyone.
Btw...BBC news presenters are often giving their personal opinions on news matters. More so on BBC radio but it does often happen.
May i ask which department of the beeb you work for? "
I never said that it didn't get government funding or that it is perfect in its coverage did I?
It appears to be better than most.
Again, what's your source of unbiased news?
Excellent follow up question about who I'm employed buy. Really good point |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Scotland didn't vote for independence they voted to remain part of the UK. "
Back when England was bigging up the EU and telling Scotland that they'd have to apply to be in the EU if they left, and that they'd lose all their current EU benefits, and how we're stronger together and as a standing force at the top of the EU.
And then England goes and shits on that two years later, Scotland deserve to split off if a hard brexit happens. |
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"Scotland didn't vote for independence they voted to remain part of the UK.
Back when England was bigging up the EU and telling Scotland that they'd have to apply to be in the EU if they left, and that they'd lose all their current EU benefits, and how we're stronger together and as a standing force at the top of the EU.
And then England goes and shits on that two years later, Scotland deserve to split off if a hard brexit happens. "
It wasn't just 'England' telling Scotland they'd be out of the EU if they left the UK, it was the rest of the UK which also includes 'Wales' and 'Northern Ireland' too. It was also Spain telling Scotland that they'd be out of the EU if they left the UK, and may not be able to join the EU as a new independent country. Spain doesn't want a newly independent Scotland joining the EU because they fear it would give the green light to Catalonia to break away from Spain and do the same. |
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over a year ago
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"It wasn't just 'England' telling Scotland they'd be out of the EU if they left the UK, it was the rest of the UK which also includes 'Wales' and 'Northern Ireland' too. It was also Spain telling Scotland that they'd be out of the EU if they left the UK, and may not be able to join the EU as a new independent country. Spain doesn't want a newly independent Scotland joining the EU because they fear it would give the green light to Catalonia to break away from Spain and do the same. "
Let's be honest, the main push was from England, Wales and NI were looking on cautiously. The majority of the begging and pleading was from England, and they held the EU as a major bargaining chip. Spain later said they wouldn't decline if Scotland were to apply.
So in all fairness, England is about to throw away that major bargain chop they used to keep Scotland tied down, if a hard brexit happens then Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Strangely...the guardian. States that 556 million quid comes from the MOD and foreign office to fund the BBC worldservice. Maybe the guardian is full of shit also...but that wouldn't surprise anyone.
Btw...BBC news presenters are often giving their personal opinions on news matters. More so on BBC radio but it does often happen.
May i ask which department of the beeb you work for?
I never said that it didn't get government funding or that it is perfect in its coverage did I?
It appears to be better than most.
Again, what's your source of unbiased news?
Excellent follow up question about who I'm employed buy. Really good point "
If it's not perfect, how is it better than most?
It's an absolute no-brainer that state owned media will be biased towards whoever is in charge in that particular state... |
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over a year ago
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"Strangely...the guardian. States that 556 million quid comes from the MOD and foreign office to fund the BBC worldservice. Maybe the guardian is full of shit also...but that wouldn't surprise anyone.
Btw...BBC news presenters are often giving their personal opinions on news matters. More so on BBC radio but it does often happen.
May i ask which department of the beeb you
work for?
I never said that it didn't get government funding or that it is perfect in its coverage did I?
It appears to be better than most.
Again, what's your source of unbiased news?
Excellent follow up question about who I'm employed buy. Really good point "
Well firstly...i had my tongue firmly planted in my cheek when i asked which bbc department you worked in. It's not something i care about or wish to know.
Now when you say that the BBC is 'better than most' ... then by your own admission you know that there are better ones out there. Why not seek them out? Why just stick to the corporation that enabled and subsequently covered up decades of child sexual abuse, that rigged even stupid phone votes for talent shows and goal of the season  ..?
The global news corp that fed us lies about WMD's and the Iraq war.
If you really think the the BBC is the best on offer then....i feel sorry for you.
I have noticed from your other posts on the rest of the forums that you're a pretty clued-up guy and that you're better than this. Honestly....from what i've read of your posts in the past...you're better than this. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
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So in all fairness, England is about to throw away that major bargain chop they used to keep Scotland tied down, if a hard brexit happens then Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU. "
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
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So in all fairness, England is about to throw away that major bargain chop they used to keep Scotland tied down, if a hard brexit happens then Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU.
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They would not as the EU has strict rules,to start with they have no currency and would not be allowed in the Euro,ut also takes at least 5 years to get in,they would be on there own.I would hope we would not help then in anyway but knowing this country we probably would |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Scotland didn't vote for independence they voted to remain part of the UK.
Back when England was bigging up the EU and telling Scotland that they'd have to apply to be in the EU if they left, and that they'd lose all their current EU benefits, and how we're stronger together and as a standing force at the top of the EU.
And then England goes and shits on that two years later, Scotland deserve to split off if a hard brexit happens. "
They are part of the UK,I object the amount of money that Scotland get per head compared to the North West but that's the way it is.You cannot have everything you want in life you idiots |
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By *naqMan
over a year ago
Ayrshire |
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So in all fairness, England is about to throw away that major bargain chop they used to keep Scotland tied down, if a hard brexit happens then Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU.
They would not as the EU has strict rules,to start with they have no currency and would not be allowed in the Euro,ut also takes at least 5 years to get in,they would be on there own.I would hope we would not help then in anyway but knowing this country we probably would"
I'd like to think Scotland eould survive not having to pay for a bunch of t wearing, pig fucking, twisted blue blooded toffs with no sense of humanity. Typical stuck up stiff upper lip anti everyone BS from the all white utopian arseholes of middle earth how about you concentrate on your own half arsed political shambles before wagging a finger at anyone else ffs! |
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What you're all forgetting is that, if it's a no deal for us, it's a no deal for the EU countries and they can't afford not to trade with the UK..... I mean come if it wasn't for out pathetic obsession with prosseco, the Italian economy would have collapsed years ago, the Italians can't even sell it to the Italians and to be honest we make loads far superior sparking wines over here. |
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By *naqMan
over a year ago
Ayrshire |
"What you're all forgetting is that, if it's a no deal for us, it's a no deal for the EU countries and they can't afford not to trade with the UK..... I mean come if it wasn't for out pathetic obsession with prosseco, the Italian economy would have collapsed years ago, the Italians can't even sell it to the Italians and to be honest we make loads far superior sparking wines over here. "
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules. "
oh for the love of god once again will you stop spouting this lie!!! it has become the one crutch you are leaning on...
if this was the case there would not be the panic on that there it!!! |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules.
oh for the love of god once again will you stop spouting this lie!!! it has become the one crutch you are leaning on...
if this was the case there would not be the panic on that there it!!! "
The panic is manufactured to make sure that you vote the way the EU want you to if there's a second referendum.
And let's face it, they have form on making people vote until they vote the way the EU wants them to.
An interesting quote for the day: "The EU is not so much undemocratic as antidemocratic" |
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So in all fairness, England is about to throw away that major bargain chop they used to keep Scotland tied down, if a hard brexit happens then Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU.
They would not as the EU has strict rules,to start with they have no currency and would not be allowed in the Euro,ut also takes at least 5 years to get in,they would be on there own.I would hope we would not help then in anyway but knowing this country we probably would
I'd like to think Scotland eould survive not having to pay for a bunch of t wearing, pig fucking, twisted blue blooded toffs with no sense of humanity. Typical stuck up stiff upper lip anti everyone BS from the all white utopian arseholes of middle earth how about you concentrate on your own half arsed political shambles before wagging a finger at anyone else ffs!"
How many Conservative MP's were elected in Scotland at the last general election again?
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Strangely...the guardian. States that 556 million quid comes from the MOD and foreign office to fund the BBC worldservice. Maybe the guardian is full of shit also...but that wouldn't surprise anyone.
Btw...BBC news presenters are often giving their personal opinions on news matters. More so on BBC radio but it does often happen.
May i ask which department of the beeb you
work for?
I never said that it didn't get government funding or that it is perfect in its coverage did I?
It appears to be better than most.
Again, what's your source of unbiased news?
Excellent follow up question about who I'm employed buy. Really good point
Well firstly...i had my tongue firmly planted in my cheek when i asked which bbc department you worked in. It's not something i care about or wish to know.
Now when you say that the BBC is 'better than most' ... then by your own admission you know that there are better ones out there. Why not seek them out? Why just stick to the corporation that enabled and subsequently covered up decades of child sexual abuse, that rigged even stupid phone votes for talent shows and goal of the season ..?
The global news corp that fed us lies about WMD's and the Iraq war.
If you really think the the BBC is the best on offer then....i feel sorry for you.
I have noticed from your other posts on the rest of the forums that you're a pretty clued-up guy and that you're better than this. Honestly....from what i've read of your posts in the past...you're better than this. "
No. Better than most does not imply that there are any that are particularly better.
I try and maintain a broad range of news inputs.
I even force myself to flick through RT and the Mail occassionaly.
So I don't take the BBC as the source of all truth, nor do I see it as part of some vast propaganda conspiracy.
Once again, what's your better option? |
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?"
The same view as everyone else.
Are we nearly there yet? |
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over a year ago
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"Strangely...the guardian. States that 556 million quid comes from the MOD and foreign office to fund the BBC worldservice. Maybe the guardian is full of shit also...but that wouldn't surprise anyone.
Btw...BBC news presenters are often giving their personal opinions on news matters. More so on BBC radio but it does often happen.
May i ask which department of the beeb you
work for?
I never said that it didn't get government funding or that it is perfect in its coverage did I?
It appears to be better than most.
Again, what's your source of unbiased news?
Excellent follow up question about who I'm employed buy. Really good point
Well firstly...i had my tongue firmly planted in my cheek when i asked which bbc department you worked in. It's not something i care about or wish to know.
Now when you say that the BBC is 'better than most' ... then by your own admission you know that there are better ones out there. Why not seek them out? Why just stick to the corporation that enabled and subsequently covered up decades of child sexual abuse, that rigged even stupid phone votes for talent shows and goal of the season ..?
The global news corp that fed us lies about WMD's and the Iraq war.
If you really think the the BBC is the best on offer then....i feel sorry for you.
I have noticed from your other posts on the rest of the forums that you're a pretty clued-up guy and that you're better than this. Honestly....from what i've read of your posts in the past...you're better than this.
No. Better than most does not imply that there are any that are particularly better.
I try and maintain a broad range of news inputs.
I even force myself to flick through RT and the Mail occassionaly.
So I don't take the BBC as the source of all truth, nor do I see it as part of some vast propaganda conspiracy.
Once again, what's your better option?"
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"What you're all forgetting is that, if it's a no deal for us, it's a no deal for the EU countries and they can't afford not to trade with the UK..... I mean come if it wasn't for out pathetic obsession with prosseco, the Italian economy would have collapsed years ago, the Italians can't even sell it to the Italians and to be honest we make loads far superior sparking wines over here. "
Yes they can. The EU economy is far bigger than ours. They stop buying and selling from and to us their money goes to each other. They substitute sales.
What do we do?
The Italians like prosecco but we're d*unks. We drink any old crap, good or bad. There economy really doesn't depends on selling drink to us alone.
Odd view of the world you have. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules.
oh for the love of god once again will you stop spouting this lie!!! it has become the one crutch you are leaning on...
if this was the case there would not be the panic on that there it!!!
The panic is manufactured to make sure that you vote the way the EU want you to if there's a second referendum.
And let's face it, they have form on making people vote until they vote the way the EU wants them to.
An interesting quote for the day: "The EU is not so much undemocratic as antidemocratic""
You're developing quite the tinfoil hat |
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over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
There are supposed to be a mechanisms within the withdrawal agreement that means we continue as normal on the 29th and enter the transition phase. Apparently the sky wont fall in and the seas wont rise. I really doubt this, but given the gravity of us leaving and seeing the turmoil Grexit had, I would hope that any Brexit does not annex the UK through treaties automatically, as it'd be disastrous globally. If Brexit (hard or soft) does go ahead, we will only see the benefits in 3-5 years when any trade deals are signed off.
Even if it's a hard no deal Brexit on March 29th both the UK and the EU can agree to carry on trading tariff free for a period of upto 2 years under article 24 of the Gatt/WTO rules. Those 2 years can then be used to agree a permanent free trade agreement, possibly along the lines of the Canada/EU free trade deal as the UK would be negotiating with the EU as a 3rd country in that scenario. The WTO have already said this can happen as Chairman of Leave means Leave John Longworth, along with Co chair of Leave means Leave Richard Tice went to the recent Davos economic forum event to have meetings with leading figures of the World Trade organisation where they agreed it would be perfectly feasible and doable under existing WTO rules.
oh for the love of god once again will you stop spouting this lie!!! it has become the one crutch you are leaning on...
if this was the case there would not be the panic on that there it!!!
The panic is manufactured to make sure that you vote the way the EU want you to if there's a second referendum.
And let's face it, they have form on making people vote until they vote the way the EU wants them to.
An interesting quote for the day: "The EU is not so much undemocratic as antidemocratic""
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Your ill informed we're all evil for voting for stuff that the elites don't like, you need correction which may involve matchsticks in your eyes while watching propaganda from the BBC.
But don't fear the reaper, once your rehabilitated you'll be allowed to wander around with the general public again. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Strangely...the guardian. States that 556 million quid comes from the MOD and foreign office to fund the BBC worldservice. Maybe the guardian is full of shit also...but that wouldn't surprise anyone.
Btw...BBC news presenters are often giving their personal opinions on news matters. More so on BBC radio but it does often happen.
May i ask which department of the beeb you
work for?
I never said that it didn't get government funding or that it is perfect in its coverage did I?
It appears to be better than most.
Again, what's your source of unbiased news?
Excellent follow up question about who I'm employed buy. Really good point
Well firstly...i had my tongue firmly planted in my cheek when i asked which bbc department you worked in. It's not something i care about or wish to know.
Now when you say that the BBC is 'better than most' ... then by your own admission you know that there are better ones out there. Why not seek them out? Why just stick to the corporation that enabled and subsequently covered up decades of child sexual abuse, that rigged even stupid phone votes for talent shows and goal of the season ..?
The global news corp that fed us lies about WMD's and the Iraq war.
If you really think the the BBC is the best on offer then....i feel sorry for you.
I have noticed from your other posts on the rest of the forums that you're a pretty clued-up guy and that you're better than this. Honestly....from what i've read of your posts in the past...you're better than this.
No. Better than most does not imply that there are any that are particularly better.
I try and maintain a broad range of news inputs.
I even force myself to flick through RT and the Mail occassionaly.
So I don't take the BBC as the source of all truth, nor do I see it as part of some vast propaganda conspiracy.
Once again, what's your better option?.
Stop asking questions of others and think for yourself! "
Silly man
I've already expressed my opinion.
If someone claims that the BBC is horribly biased that's fine. I'd like to know what the better alternative is.
You may have noticed that nobody has offered one.
Which is your favourite source of "truth"?
Considering your world view I'm particularly curious |
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"Strangely...the guardian. States that 556 million quid comes from the MOD and foreign office to fund the BBC worldservice. Maybe the guardian is full of shit also...but that wouldn't surprise anyone.
Btw...BBC news presenters are often giving their personal opinions on news matters. More so on BBC radio but it does often happen.
May i ask which department of the beeb you
work for?
I never said that it didn't get government funding or that it is perfect in its coverage did I?
It appears to be better than most.
Again, what's your source of unbiased news?
Excellent follow up question about who I'm employed buy. Really good point
Well firstly...i had my tongue firmly planted in my cheek when i asked which bbc department you worked in. It's not something i care about or wish to know.
Now when you say that the BBC is 'better than most' ... then by your own admission you know that there are better ones out there. Why not seek them out? Why just stick to the corporation that enabled and subsequently covered up decades of child sexual abuse, that rigged even stupid phone votes for talent shows and goal of the season ..?
The global news corp that fed us lies about WMD's and the Iraq war.
If you really think the the BBC is the best on offer then....i feel sorry for you.
I have noticed from your other posts on the rest of the forums that you're a pretty clued-up guy and that you're better than this. Honestly....from what i've read of your posts in the past...you're better than this.
No. Better than most does not imply that there are any that are particularly better.
I try and maintain a broad range of news inputs.
I even force myself to flick through RT and the Mail occassionaly.
So I don't take the BBC as the source of all truth, nor do I see it as part of some vast propaganda conspiracy.
Once again, what's your better option?.
Stop asking questions of others and think for yourself!
Silly man
I've already expressed my opinion.
If someone claims that the BBC is horribly biased that's fine. I'd like to know what the better alternative is.
You may have noticed that nobody has offered one.
Which is your favourite source of "truth"?
Considering your world view I'm particularly curious "
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By *naqMan
over a year ago
Ayrshire |
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So in all fairness, England is about to throw away that major bargain chop they used to keep Scotland tied down, if a hard brexit happens then Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU.
They would not as the EU has strict rules,to start with they have no currency and would not be allowed in the Euro,ut also takes at least 5 years to get in,they would be on there own.I would hope we would not help then in anyway but knowing this country we probably would
I'd like to think Scotland eould survive not having to pay for a bunch of t wearing, pig fucking, twisted blue blooded toffs with no sense of humanity. Typical stuck up stiff upper lip anti everyone BS from the all white utopian arseholes of middle earth how about you concentrate on your own half arsed political shambles before wagging a finger at anyone else ffs!
How many Conservative MP's were elected in Scotland at the last general election again?
Oh yeah, it was 13 wasn't it, the Conservative party's best performance in Scotland since 1983. "
Hahaha led by that snarling pig faced vile spawn of the orange order big Ruth Davidson just how popular is she in Scotland at the moment mate? Quitting social media retreating back to her safe space if shes nasty enough to be a bigot in public she can fucking gag on the backlash. The nasty bitch should have been flushed down the pan shortly after birth. Glad to see you finally answered a post after a week of back peddling and running back to your yes men on the Nissan thread you started to massage your over inflated ego. Lets hear your buzzword soundbyte nuggets of utter pish again please it's good for a giggle if anything fucking clown shoes  |
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By *naqMan
over a year ago
Ayrshire |
Apologies the Toyota thread do remember you talking a fair amount of garbage on the Nissan one aswell that you were shot down and proven to be full of crap then did your famous disappearing act as per |
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"I think at this moment in time it is impossible to say. We were told when we didn't join the Euro it would be a disaster. We have overcome the financial crisis albeit not without an unprecedented period of austerity which has hit the poorest hardest. But we have survived. So with the right fiscal and monetary policy, a bit of balls and can do attitude I suspect things will all work out ok."
What's your idea of the right fiscal and monetary policy? More robbing from the poor to give to the rich?
More dodgy deals and backhanders going to family and friends of government ministers?
Selling off our NHS to shady American medical health providers?
If we had a government that ruled for the people not the profiteers then we might just have had a hope in hell. Sadly not the case!
Oh and I would love to know how you came to the conclusion we have overcome the financial crisis. I think what actually happened was taxpayers provided a very large bandaid to cover up all that shit that is still going on in the financial world. I would not be putting all my hopes in that basket! |
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"Apologies the Toyota thread do remember you talking a fair amount of garbage on the Nissan one aswell that you were shot down and proven to be full of crap then did your famous disappearing act as per "
Lol, typical SNP reaction you can't even get a late Friday night angry rant correct can you. By the way how is Alex Salmond doing in his sex abuse case? |
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"Apologies the Toyota thread do remember you talking a fair amount of garbage on the Nissan one aswell that you were shot down and proven to be full of crap then did your famous disappearing act as per
Lol, typical SNP reaction you can't even get a late Friday night angry rant correct can you. By the way how is Alex Salmond doing in his sex abuse case? "
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By *naqMan
over a year ago
Ayrshire |
Hahaha ok Centy is that your mini victory of the evening? Clutching at straws as always and throwing out the SNP curve ball ok then matey. What has the SNP got to do with your outlandish claims being debunked daily on the forums. If we wanna sling political shite remember Thatcher and Sir Jimmy's shady secret handshakes and the biggest child sex ring cover up in UK history but that doesnt matter because Jimmy wasn't brown etc your side.of the fence have very short memories with a one dimential outlook on everything again fucking clown shoes. |
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"Hahaha ok Centy is that your mini victory of the evening? Clutching at straws as always and throwing out the SNP curve ball ok then matey. What has the SNP got to do with your outlandish claims being debunked daily on the forums. If we wanna sling political shite remember Thatcher and Sir Jimmy's shady secret handshakes and the biggest child sex ring cover up in UK history but that doesnt matter because Jimmy wasn't brown etc your side.of the fence have very short memories with a one dimential outlook on everything again fucking clown shoes. "
Now now, no need to bring wee Jimmy Krankie into this, we all know Nicola Sturgeon has an uncanny resemblance. Fan dabi dozi |
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"Don't think wee Krankie got an OBE and basic carte blanche to fuck children unlike your idols at the beeb or the wonderful Tories that helped cover it up .
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My idols at the beeb???? I'm not sure what shit you've been smoking or drinking tonight but you've clearly had too much. I'm no fan of the BBC and my history of posting on this forum will clearly show that. I'd abolish the license fee tomorrow if it was within my power. I don't like being forced to pay for state propaganda. It's about time the license fee was abolished and the BBC was brought kicking and screaming into the modern digital age and became a voluntary subscription service. I also voted ukip from the early 2000's up until 2016, again my history of posting on here will prove that, so if you think I'm a die hard Tory you're sorely mistaken. |
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"Look mate i'm gonna have to go forgot to put some water in your Mum's bowl.
night X"
Notice you didn't have the balls to quote one of my posts when you posted this. That makes you a coward. Don't try washing that yellow streak off your back next time you have a shower, it's permanent. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I was watching question time yesterday and it was really good, did you?. They were in scotland that voted for independence. I agree with the guy in the audience that said that brexit will ruin the country, he got lots of applauds too, whats your view?
You really need to fact check some of your posts Shag. Scotland did NOT vote for independence. The SNP, who had called for the independence referendum that was held in 2014 were hoping that the people of Scotland would vote their way, but the result was that the majority of Scots voted to remain within the United Kingdom."
No. I got it right again, 62% of scottish voters voted to remain a member of the eu, with 38% voting to leave. |
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"Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU. That is right, eu would accept them in no time "
I think Spain may disagree with you on that due to the Catalonia issue that they have. |
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By *naqMan
over a year ago
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"Look mate i'm gonna have to go forgot to put some water in your Mum's bowl.
night X
Notice you didn't have the balls to quote one of my posts when you posted this. That makes you a coward. Don't try washing that yellow streak off your back next time you have a shower, it's permanent. "
Poor show Centy as usual theirs nothing worth reading in your reply. If your going to throw insults at least try and make it just a little more comical for the benefit of the rest of us please. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU. That is right, eu would accept them in no time
I think Spain may disagree with you on that due to the Catalonia issue that they have. "
In 2014, they did.
Then the English put two fingers at Europe in 2016.
Spain's foreign minister was quoted recently saying they have no problem with Scotland joining the EU.
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"Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU. That is right, eu would accept them in no time
I think Spain may disagree with you on that due to the Catalonia issue that they have.
In 2014, they did.
Then the English put two fingers at Europe in 2016.
Spain's foreign minister was quoted recently saying they have no problem with Scotland joining the EU.
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Politicking in a blatant attempt to get the UK to change its mind and stay in the EU. I doubt Spain would allow a newly independent Scotland to join the EU if it came to the crunch. Scotland don't meet the EU's criteria to begin with anyway. Besides it would give Catalonia a green light for independence outside of Spain. |
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"Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU. That is right, eu would accept them in no time
I think Spain may disagree with you on that due to the Catalonia issue that they have.
In 2014, they did.
Then the English put two fingers at Europe in 2016.
Spain's foreign minister was quoted recently saying they have no problem with Scotland joining the EU.
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Do they meet the 2% deficit criteria? |
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"Scotland deserves a chance to get out again and I'm sure they'd fast tracked into the EU. That is right, eu would accept them in no time
I think Spain may disagree with you on that due to the Catalonia issue that they have.
In 2014, they did.
Then the English put two fingers at Europe in 2016.
Spain's foreign minister was quoted recently saying they have no problem with Scotland joining the EU.
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It was the English and Welsh, you must stop this false narrative you keep telling of it only being the English! You have been told a number of times but you still persist so I must presume you are deliberately trying to mislead!  |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
The New York Times has a fascinating piece today, showing how a no deal exit will affect economies differently.
Where Europe Would Be Hurt Most by a No-Deal Brexit
The UK obviously takes the greatest hit, followed by Ireland, Germany and the Netherlands. Other countries won't feel a thing.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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“We don’t want it [Scottish independence] to happen,” he said. “But if it happens legally and constitutionally, we would not block it."
- Alfonso Dastis, Foreign Minister of Spain, April 2017
Assuming there is another referendum in Scotland at some point, it would interesting to see whether there was a 2nd question about the EU. Or whether that would be a separate referendum at a later date.
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