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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite. |
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite."
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust.  |
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite."
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite."
It's not his decision
Brexit is like a clown car with the wheels falling off but the clowns driving it are trying to carry on |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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a) He does not want any new routes created, because it will take away business from his port, so of course he will say there is nothing to worry about.
b) he has no control over what HMRC checks are or are not put in place on March 30.
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"a) He does not want any new routes created, because it will take away business from his port, so of course he will say there is nothing to worry about.
b) he has no control over what HMRC checks are or are not put in place on March 30.
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This must class as ironic post of the year so far, |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"a) He does not want any new routes created, because it will take away business from his port, so of course he will say there is nothing to worry about.
b) he has no control over what HMRC checks are or are not put in place on March 30.
This must class as ironic post of the year so far, "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Isn’t one of the reasons because vet checks will be taking place elsewhere. So no delays in Calais ... but further.
(This was on radio 4 as I arrived at work this morning so haven’t seen the detail) |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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One would hope so.
The Government commissioned University College London to examine the issue.
Their conclusion - 70 seconds spent checking each truck will lead to delays of six days crossing the Channel.
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite."
Firstly, he doesn't have the ability to deliver this.
Secondly, if this were true and nothing changes then how the f*ck have we taken back control of our borders? |
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust. "
Yeah, I never believed it in the first place! |
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust.
Yeah, I never believed it in the first place!"
I bet you still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny though. Try some critical thinking perhaps? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust.
Yeah, I never believed it in the first place!
I bet you still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny though. Try some critical thinking perhaps?"
What a load of old bollocks... |
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes."
Yet you have the temerity to complain when leavers are categorized as 'a bit thick and dumb'? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yet again this seems to be The EU side actually sorting things out, good job really because one of our contingency plans:to use a paper company to ship to a port that has confirmed it it would not be ready looks to have been somewhat ill thought out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46799136
As for 'Project fear' people have to obviously risk assess and put contingency plans in to avoid projected scenarios.
These things could have happened if actually completely ignored like a lot of you would have done.
Imagine what would have happened if the bank of England had not reacted in the way it has after planning for the worse. |
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust. "
Total amount of trade to the UK as a percentage of GDP is less than 5%!
Total amount of trade as a percentage of GDP by the UK to the EU 44%!
So as a percentage of shit UK big shit. La France un peu de merde  |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
Firstly, he doesn't have the ability to deliver this.
Secondly, if this were true and nothing changes then how the f*ck have we taken back control of our borders?"
Ahhhh.... Shroedinger’s Brexit you see it will simultaneously stop all those nasty foreigners from coming in, but at the same time won’t affect operations at all!
-Matt |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust.
Total amount of trade to the UK as a percentage of GDP is less than 5%!
Total amount of trade as a percentage of GDP by the UK to the EU 44%!
So as a percentage of shit UK big shit. La France un peu de merde "
Look, the brexiteers have already told you about this. If you just stare at those numbers really hard and get behind our country, then all will be just dandy.
-Matt |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust.
Total amount of trade to the UK as a percentage of GDP is less than 5%!
Total amount of trade as a percentage of GDP by the UK to the EU 44%!
So as a percentage of shit UK big shit. La France un peu de merde "
France exports to the uk are 35B imports to france are 22B so the French have more to lose |
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
Firstly, he doesn't have the ability to deliver this.
Secondly, if this were true and nothing changes then how the f*ck have we taken back control of our borders?
Ahhhh.... Shroedinger’s Brexit you see it will simultaneously stop all those nasty foreigners from coming in, but at the same time won’t affect operations at all!
-Matt"
Exactly, now we have a Red, White and f*cking Quantum Brexit. Jesus. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
Firstly, he doesn't have the ability to deliver this.
Secondly, if this were true and nothing changes then how the f*ck have we taken back control of our borders?
Ahhhh.... Shroedinger’s Brexit you see it will simultaneously stop all those nasty foreigners from coming in, but at the same time won’t affect operations at all!
-Matt
Exactly, now we have a Red, White and f*cking Quantum Brexit. Jesus."
When we leave we will have control of our borders and we can implement those controls over time as systems evolve and any problems occur, which they no doubt will, can be sorted, of course this is obvious to all those clever remainers, oh hang on they think unless everything works perfectly on day one it will prove their argument that brexit will fail.
Give me strength |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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When we leave we will have control of our borders and we can implement those controls over time as systems evolve and any problems occur, which they no doubt will, can be sorted, of course this is obvious to all those clever remainers, oh hang on they think unless everything works perfectly on day one it will prove their argument that brexit will fail.
Give me strength"
What controls will you have in place on the British border in Ireland on March 30?
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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When we leave we will have control of our borders and we can implement those controls over time as systems evolve and any problems occur, which they no doubt will, can be sorted, of course this is obvious to all those clever remainers, oh hang on they think unless everything works perfectly on day one it will prove their argument that brexit will fail.
Give me strength
What controls will you have in place on the British border in Ireland on March 30?
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The same ones or less than the EU will have to have in place, its a two way border and of course if you believe the scare stories about some nutcases wanting to go back to violence those nut jobs mainlt live in the north and want free movement/travel south. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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What was the concept again about “controlling our borders”?
It started to fall apart when controlling the Irish border looked like it might be a tad difficult and now all the ports are expected to be waving traffic through like normal?
What is the point? |
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust.
Total amount of trade to the UK as a percentage of GDP is less than 5%!
Total amount of trade as a percentage of GDP by the UK to the EU 44%!
So as a percentage of shit UK big shit. La France un peu de merde
France exports to the uk are 35B imports to france are 22B so the French have more to lose"
Small percentages in real terms! |
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"What was the concept again about “controlling our borders”?
It started to fall apart when controlling the Irish border looked like it might be a tad difficult and now all the ports are expected to be waving traffic through like normal?
What is the point?"
There is a clear distinction here between waving lorries through packed with heavy goods, and tourists in small cars or tourists coming in through airports against immigration which is where people come to live and work here for long periods. Business, trade and tourism vs immigration where people want to come here to live and work for long periods.
People want Control over borders in terms of immigration, which is different to waving through heavy goods vehicles and lorries for trade purposes. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"A no-deal Brexit will have no impact on the flow of truck traffic through Calais port, the terminal's boss, Jean-Marc Puissesseau, insisted on Wednesday while lashing out at British plans to create alternative ferry routes.
At present, some 10,000 trucks pass over the Channel on a daily basis between Dover and Calais at peak times. But the lack of space for customs and regulatory checks on the British side means the U.K.'s Department for Transport is funding alternative routes — like a Ramsgate to Ostend link — threatening to drain traffic from Dover-Calais.
Puissesseau insisted on the BBC's Today program that his port will not restrict transit under a no-deal scenario. "There will not be any delay," he said. "The trucks will be passing as they are doing today." Puissesseau said preparations include an information campaign for hauliers and creating special checkpoints onsite.
The French are scared shitless about losing British trade. This is a manifestation of it. Another remoaning project fear myth bites the dust.
Total amount of trade to the UK as a percentage of GDP is less than 5%!
Total amount of trade as a percentage of GDP by the UK to the EU 44%!
So as a percentage of shit UK big shit. La France un peu de merde
France exports to the uk are 35B imports to france are 22B so the French have more to lose
Small percentages in real terms!"
I wonder if those who lose their jobs from the lose of that 13 B would think its a small percentage, and while you say that they could sell elsewhere some they could but a lot of that will be food, we are there second biggest export market for food and for perishable food most likely top, there is no other market at least in the medium term for that |
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By *obka3Couple
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"What was the concept again about “controlling our borders”?
It started to fall apart when controlling the Irish border looked like it might be a tad difficult and now all the ports are expected to be waving traffic through like normal?
What is the point?
There is a clear distinction here between waving lorries through packed with heavy goods, and tourists in small cars or tourists coming in through airports against immigration which is where people come to live and work here for long periods. Business, trade and tourism vs immigration where people want to come here to live and work for long periods.
People want Control over borders in terms of immigration, which is different to waving through heavy goods vehicles and lorries for trade purposes. "
Of course and it doesnt all need doing on day one either |
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Of course and it doesnt all need doing on day one either"
If things aren't ready and businesses have their goods in trucks, stuck in long queues etc, then who is going to ultimately pay for that? Logistics is notorious for running on very thin margins, which means that you can't tie up trucks and drivers for extensive periods and not impact upon logistics costs/operators as well as the businesses that they serve. Ultimately retailers will be dependent upon their stocks being replenished, so that the public can buy what they want. If things don't arrive or are perished, then it would impact the whole of the UK retail market and millions of customers.
The comment that it doesn't all need doing for day one, prompts the response - when should it be ready for? As well as who should be paying for all of the incremental costs that business accrue, if they manage to survive?
It's all fine and dandy, according to some geezer in Calais but he's subject to whatever is imposed upon his port by the French government, which will change over time. He'll also not be the manager of businesses who are dependent upon the costs of logistics, that will be adversely affected by delays. |
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