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Can we have a Brexit Tax please?
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The government is spending 2 billion pounds on Brexit contingency, this is in addition to who knows how many millions or billions already spent over the last two years, plus vast economic losses due to the weakness of the pound etc.
I think that there should be an immediate new tax levied on every member of the public, specifically called the Brexit Tax, to cover all funding for Brexit. All money must be raised before the actual exit from the EU.
Any person may opt out of this tax at will, by making a signed declaration to the government that they do not wish to leave the EU. Shortfalls in the tax raised caused by people opting out are to be recovered by increasing the tax on those who declare that they wish to leave the EU.
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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That would require taking personal responsibility for your actions. Very unfashionable.
It would also make it very difficult to make promises for other people to keep. Inconvenient.
#Too sensible |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
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We’re not all a bunch of pirates who believe in reneging on contracts you know, some of us believe in legality and honouring our debts  |
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"The government is spending 2 billion pounds on Brexit contingency, this is in addition to who knows how many millions or billions already spent over the last two years, plus vast economic losses due to the weakness of the pound etc.
I think that there should be an immediate new tax levied on every member of the public, specifically called the Brexit Tax, to cover all funding for Brexit. All money must be raised before the actual exit from the EU.
Any person may opt out of this tax at will, by making a signed declaration to the government that they do not wish to leave the EU. Shortfalls in the tax raised caused by people opting out are to be recovered by increasing the tax on those who declare that they wish to leave the EU.
Discuss."
Can we also do the same if a Corbyn labour government ever gets elected into power? I don't want to pay a Corbyn tax to re-nationalise everything.  |
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
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Ah, I see that as a firm believer in the profitability of Brexit, you will be an investor within my alternative proposal of a Brexit PLC company (see other thread) which will be responsible for paying all the up front costs of Brexit, and then will recoup vast profits from the funds no longer being paid to the EU and the massive improvement in profitabilty of UK enterprises.
Obviously you would not wish to have anything to do with the only other alternative where huge amounts of public funds are diverted into a social project that will immediately put millions of pounds into the pockets of a small number of already very rich people, but not give anything to the many for at least twenty years if ever. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I predict we'll see a bus in the near future explaining why brexit has cost us billions upon billions and why we should rejoin...Unless we've still got that Tory money tree with £140 billion on it..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lmao bob really u still harping in about this bus"
They've not put on the bus yet how much you will have to pay for brexit.Whats the max your prepared to pay in tax.?? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"The government is spending 2 billion pounds on Brexit contingency, this is in addition to who knows how many millions or billions already spent over the last two years, plus vast economic losses due to the weakness of the pound etc.
I think that there should be an immediate new tax levied on every member of the public, specifically called the Brexit Tax, to cover all funding for Brexit. All money must be raised before the actual exit from the EU.
Any person may opt out of this tax at will, by making a signed declaration to the government that they do not wish to leave the EU. Shortfalls in the tax raised caused by people opting out are to be recovered by increasing the tax on those who declare that they wish to leave the EU.
Discuss."
I think that the 650 MP's should pay because it is there incompetence and in fighting that is causing the problems.
On a serious not we will pay for it with more taxes no doubt and more cut backs |
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"The government is spending 2 billion pounds on Brexit contingency, this is in addition to who knows how many millions or billions already spent over the last two years, plus vast economic losses due to the weakness of the pound etc.
I think that there should be an immediate new tax levied on every member of the public, specifically called the Brexit Tax, to cover all funding for Brexit. All money must be raised before the actual exit from the EU.
Any person may opt out of this tax at will, by making a signed declaration to the government that they do not wish to leave the EU. Shortfalls in the tax raised caused by people opting out are to be recovered by increasing the tax on those who declare that they wish to leave the EU.
Discuss.I think that the 650 MP's should pay because it is there incompetence and in fighting that is causing the problems.
On a serious not we will pay for it with more taxes no doubt and more cut backs"
Which is why we should pay for it with a specific Brexit tax, fully itemised, so that everyone can see and understand exactly what it has cost the country and what it has cost them personally.
And if Centy is right and Brexit makes a profit, well then it'll be happy time for everyone when they get a Brexit cheque coming through in the post. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So if things go wrong only the “tax” payer loses. If they go right we all get to win??
Still sounds like a load of old tutt. People would pretend they don’t support BREXIT just to avoid paying the tax money.
That’ll show us all that the majority want to remain. Yeah man!! |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
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I predict that those 30 billions will go be spend in record time to pay for the aftermath a hard brexit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
I predict that those 30 billions will go be spend in record time to pay for the aftermath a hard brexit. "
We d be rapidly sued for that money..that's why no credibile people mention it! Think Tim Martin still does though! |
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I do like the concept that those wanting to gamble by leaving could be prepared to fund it end have proposed before that they ought to, putting their money where their mouth is. Funnily, they don't usually like this concept, expecting others to shoulder the costs and risks and certainly not them.
People taking salary cuts for some years, if the economy faces further hits, would have compound losses for the rest of their lives, including a reduced pension pot.
The awful thing is that if the UK leaves the EU and returns, it will not get as good a deal as it does at present. Ignorant stupidity is driving many, led by very rich individuals, some of who will prosper at their losses. All stemming from the conservative party's desperate need to cling to power
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I do like the concept that those wanting to gamble by leaving could be prepared to fund it end have proposed before that they ought to, putting their money where their mouth is. Funnily, they don't usually like this concept, expecting others to shoulder the costs and risks and certainly not them.
People taking salary cuts for some years, if the economy faces further hits, would have compound losses for the rest of their lives, including a reduced pension pot.
The awful thing is that if the UK leaves the EU and returns, it will not get as good a deal as it does at present. Ignorant stupidity is driving many, led by very rich individuals, some of who will prosper at their losses. All stemming from the conservative party's desperate need to cling to power
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
I predict that those 30 billions will go be spend in record time to pay for the aftermath a hard brexit.
We d be rapidly sued for that money..that's why no credibile people mention it! Think Tim Martin still does though! "
You don't think the House of Lords is credible then? Funny how remainers were holding the House of Lords up as a bastion of truth, honesty and integrity when the vast majority of Lords were supporting remain during the EU Withdrawal bill saga. Best not to mention now then the House of Lords ruling said we wouldn't owe the EU a single penny in the event of no deal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
I predict that those 30 billions will go be spend in record time to pay for the aftermath a hard brexit.
We d be rapidly sued for that money..that's why no credibile people mention it! Think Tim Martin still does though!
You don't think the House of Lords is credible then? Funny how remainers were holding the House of Lords up as a bastion of truth, honesty and integrity when the vast majority of Lords were supporting remain during the EU Withdrawal bill saga. Best not to mention now then the House of Lords ruling said we wouldn't owe the EU a single penny in the event of no deal. "
Isn’t it past your bedtime? |
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
I predict that those 30 billions will go be spend in record time to pay for the aftermath a hard brexit.
We d be rapidly sued for that money..that's why no credibile people mention it! Think Tim Martin still does though!
You don't think the House of Lords is credible then? Funny how remainers were holding the House of Lords up as a bastion of truth, honesty and integrity when the vast majority of Lords were supporting remain during the EU Withdrawal bill saga. Best not to mention now then the House of Lords ruling said we wouldn't owe the EU a single penny in the event of no deal.
Isn’t it past your bedtime?"
No, still up. Anyway weren't you told you weren't allowed to have your mobile phone in your cot at night. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
We’re not all a bunch of pirates who believe in reneging on contracts you know, some of us believe in legality and honouring our debts "
And the legal position is tgat if we leave with no deal, we do not owe £39 Billion.
Attorney General, in his legal advice recently to cabinet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
We’re not all a bunch of pirates who believe in reneging on contracts you know, some of us believe in legality and honouring our debts
And the legal position is tgat if we leave with no deal, we do not owe £39 Billion.
Attorney General, in his legal advice recently to cabinet."
That will be interesting - is the British government going to pay British contingent MEP's and civil service pensions then? If you sign a contract there are liabilities - I am assuming that the eu budget to 2020 is a contract? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
I predict that those 30 billions will go be spend in record time to pay for the aftermath a hard brexit.
We d be rapidly sued for that money..that's why no credibile people mention it! Think Tim Martin still does though!
You don't think the House of Lords is credible then? Funny how remainers were holding the House of Lords up as a bastion of truth, honesty and integrity when the vast majority of Lords were supporting remain during the EU Withdrawal bill saga. Best not to mention now then the House of Lords ruling said we wouldn't owe the EU a single penny in the event of no deal.
Isn’t it past your bedtime?
No, still up. Anyway weren't you told you weren't allowed to have your mobile phone in your cot at night. "
Ha ha....no, just checking in on you, old son. I was worried you might have had an aneurism in your apoplexy  |
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"Why?
Look at it this way. If the PM's deal is accepted, we pay the EU 39 Billion Euros, plus whatever further money they want us to give them during the transition period.
If we leave with no deal, we pay them nothing.
So please explain why there should be a 'tax' on all citizens when the country will be over £30 billion better off (not quite sure what the current £ to Euro exchange rate is so didn't want to start speculating on exact figure)
We’re not all a bunch of pirates who believe in reneging on contracts you know, some of us believe in legality and honouring our debts
And the legal position is tgat if we leave with no deal, we do not owe £39 Billion.
Attorney General, in his legal advice recently to cabinet.
That will be interesting - is the British government going to pay British contingent MEP's and civil service pensions then? If you sign a contract there are liabilities - I am assuming that the eu budget to 2020 is a contract? "
Nigel Farage will ensure his snout stays in the trough, via his pension, so there'll be pressure behind the scenes, so that the necessary obligations are settled, even if the Attorney general advises we don't have to |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" I don't suppose the brexiters will come forward an offer to pay.No doubt if asked they'll claim to be remainers . "
Of course, this whole idea is based on the greed of people who will say anything to save money. It means nothing... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
I would go one further... I think they should pay a brexit tax if they are wrong.... but they should be the only ones to get the brexit dividend if they are right
That’s a fair compromise....
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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" I don't suppose the brexiters will come forward an offer to pay.No doubt if asked they'll claim to be remainers .
Of course, this whole idea is based on the greed of people who will say anything to save money. It means nothing..."
It seems to me its the remainers who are the ones worried about money thats their only argument about leaving.Personally i know its going to cost me money in the short term leaving but its a price im willing to pay. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
" I don't suppose the brexiters will come forward an offer to pay.No doubt if asked they'll claim to be remainers .
Of course, this whole idea is based on the greed of people who will say anything to save money. It means nothing...It seems to me its the remainers who are the ones worried about money thats their only argument about leaving.Personally i know its going to cost me money in the short term leaving but its a price im willing to pay."
Nope... it’s not just about money... it’s also about my quality of life!
Actually... please define short term for me... just so I know I need to tough it out because of your decision... cheers! |
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" I don't suppose the brexiters will come forward an offer to pay.No doubt if asked they'll claim to be remainers .
Of course, this whole idea is based on the greed of people who will say anything to save money. It means nothing...It seems to me its the remainers who are the ones worried about money thats their only argument about leaving.Personally i know its going to cost me money in the short term leaving but its a price im willing to pay."
It’s unusual to see someone say this.
I wonder what you are buying for this price.
It seems a big focus of brexit is on immigration. If asked it’s because of pushing down wages or pressures on services. Which is money. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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" I don't suppose the brexiters will come forward an offer to pay.No doubt if asked they'll claim to be remainers .
Of course, this whole idea is based on the greed of people who will say anything to save money. It means nothing...It seems to me its the remainers who are the ones worried about money thats their only argument about leaving.Personally i know its going to cost me money in the short term leaving but its a price im willing to pay.
It’s unusual to see someone say this.
I wonder what you are buying for this price.
It seems a big focus of brexit is on immigration. If asked it’s because of pushing down wages or pressures on services. Which is money. "
Well for one no more of my money will be going to all those fat cats in Brussels lording it over us on their extortionate wages and expenses.Waisting peoples hard earned wages for what? yes they through us a few crumbs now and then (free roaming charges compo for delayed flights etc) while they are all laughing their cocks off with their massive pensions low tax rates i could go on,on the 29th i will be going out for a good drink to celebrate that barnier is not getting pissed up on my money anymore. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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" I don't suppose the brexiters will come forward an offer to pay.No doubt if asked they'll claim to be remainers .
Of course, this whole idea is based on the greed of people who will say anything to save money. It means nothing...It seems to me its the remainers who are the ones worried about money thats their only argument about leaving.Personally i know its going to cost me money in the short term leaving but its a price im willing to pay."
Pay for what? What do you think you get in return?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" I don't suppose the brexiters will come forward an offer to pay.No doubt if asked they'll claim to be remainers .
Of course, this whole idea is based on the greed of people who will say anything to save money. It means nothing...It seems to me its the remainers who are the ones worried about money thats their only argument about leaving.Personally i know its going to cost me money in the short term leaving but its a price im willing to pay.
It’s unusual to see someone say this.
I wonder what you are buying for this price.
It seems a big focus of brexit is on immigration. If asked it’s because of pushing down wages or pressures on services. Which is money. Well for one no more of my money will be going to all those fat cats in Brussels lording it over us on their extortionate wages and expenses.Waisting peoples hard earned wages for what? yes they through us a few crumbs now and then (free roaming charges compo for delayed flights etc) while they are all laughing their cocks off with their massive pensions low tax rates i could go on,on the 29th i will be going out for a good drink to celebrate that barnier is not getting pissed up on my money anymore."
Again. Money. My point was a lot of leaves arguments boils down to money too. It’s not the preserve of remainers.  |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"I call bullshit that brexit has fuck all to do with money .Bug red bus FFS!
Good luck celebrating us leaving the EU with nothing in your pockets.
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i will be ok mate but thanks for worrying about me.Happy xmas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I call bullshit that brexit has fuck all to do with money .Bug red bus FFS!
Good luck celebrating us leaving the EU with nothing in your pockets.
i will be ok mate but thanks for worrying about me.Happy xmas."
That's good to hear .Im still waiting to hear how much your prepared to suffer in the short term financial for a blue passport? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"I call bullshit that brexit has fuck all to do with money .Bug red bus FFS!
Good luck celebrating us leaving the EU with nothing in your pockets.
i will be ok mate but thanks for worrying about me.Happy xmas. That's good to hear .Im still waiting to hear how much your prepared to suffer in the short term financial for a blue passport? "
Well whatever it takes but im pretty optimistic that it wont be that much and short term.I have great faith in the people of this fine country and that we will come out better and stronger. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I call bullshit that brexit has fuck all to do with money .Bug red bus FFS!
Good luck celebrating us leaving the EU with nothing in your pockets.
i will be ok mate but thanks for worrying about me.Happy xmas. That's good to hear .Im still waiting to hear how much your prepared to suffer in the short term financial for a blue passport? Well whatever it takes but im pretty optimistic that it wont be that much and short term.I have great faith in the people of this fine country and that we will come out better and stronger."
You know how to tell it's snake oil.Its when faith is required.
So not prepared to even give a ball park figure of how much of your personal wealth your prepared to lose for brexit .Standard empty pointless rhetoric from a brexiter then.Thanks for saying absolutely nothing.. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"I call bullshit that brexit has fuck all to do with money .Bug red bus FFS!
Good luck celebrating us leaving the EU with nothing in your pockets.
i will be ok mate but thanks for worrying about me.Happy xmas. That's good to hear .Im still waiting to hear how much your prepared to suffer in the short term financial for a blue passport? Well whatever it takes but im pretty optimistic that it wont be that much and short term.I have great faith in the people of this fine country and that we will come out better and stronger."
This is the bit that worries me. That people can look at the complete clusterfuck of what is going on with this whole process and say they have 'faith in the fine people of this country'. Do you mean faith in the citizens which pretty much as many voted against whatever you believe in that with it? Or the politicians that seem to be completely inept or just plain corrupt?
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I call bullshit that brexit has fuck all to do with money .Bug red bus FFS!
Good luck celebrating us leaving the EU with nothing in your pockets.
i will be ok mate but thanks for worrying about me.Happy xmas. That's good to hear .Im still waiting to hear how much your prepared to suffer in the short term financial for a blue passport? Well whatever it takes but im pretty optimistic that it wont be that much and short term.I have great faith in the people of this fine country and that we will come out better and stronger.
This is the bit that worries me. That people can look at the complete clusterfuck of what is going on with this whole process and say they have 'faith in the fine people of this country'. Do you mean faith in the citizens which pretty much as many voted against whatever you believe in that with it? Or the politicians that seem to be completely inept or just plain corrupt?
-Matt"
Yeah apparently its cemented their faith in these things which is obviously stupid. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"The government is spending 2 billion pounds on Brexit contingency, this is in addition to who knows how many millions or billions already spent over the last two years, plus vast economic losses due to the weakness of the pound etc.
I think that there should be an immediate new tax levied on every member of the public, specifically called the Brexit Tax, to cover all funding for Brexit. All money must be raised before the actual exit from the EU.
Any person may opt out of this tax at will, by making a signed declaration to the government that they do not wish to leave the EU. Shortfalls in the tax raised caused by people opting out are to be recovered by increasing the tax on those who declare that they wish to leave the EU.
Discuss."
How about another referemdum...leave with no deal and don't pay 39 Billion... or remain.
Those who vote leave get a cut of the 39 Billion tax free (works out about £2,500 per person based on 17 M), while if remain wins, those who vote remain get to pay the UK contributions (c £625 per person every year, and rising). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" I don't suppose the brexiters will come forward an offer to pay.No doubt if asked they'll claim to be remainers .
Of course, this whole idea is based on the greed of people who will say anything to save money. It means nothing...It seems to me its the remainers who are the ones worried about money thats their only argument about leaving.Personally i know its going to cost me money in the short term leaving but its a price im willing to pay.
It’s unusual to see someone say this.
I wonder what you are buying for this price.
It seems a big focus of brexit is on immigration. If asked it’s because of pushing down wages or pressures on services. Which is money. Well for one no more of my money will be going to all those fat cats in Brussels lording it over us on their extortionate wages and expenses.Waisting peoples hard earned wages for what? yes they through us a few crumbs now and then (free roaming charges compo for delayed flights etc) while they are all laughing their cocks off with their massive pensions low tax rates i could go on,on the 29th i will be going out for a good drink to celebrate that barnier is not getting pissed up on my money anymore."
Low tax rates where?
Thanks to free movement of EU citizens I'll gladly move |
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