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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So...the ‘third man in the room’ was indeed Trump. What now- impeachment, censoring, trial once term over?
Place your bets here- offering highest odds on the last one unless by some absolute miracle he becomes a true leader rather than a complete egotist |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dangerous presidents tend to come to bad ends historically but this monster seems to be teflon coated. Robert Mueller is not one for letting go though so I reckon you could well be right on the money. |
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it.."
Is that not irony?
Given your obvious worry about your perceptions, wrong in my opinion on people in the UK of the Muslim faith?
I would say lock him up but it's a bit early for that yet..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it..
Is that not irony?
Given your obvious worry about your perceptions, wrong in my opinion on people in the UK of the Muslim faith?
I would say lock him up but it's a bit early for that yet.. "
Not really....i thought you guys had enough on your plates with brexit and terrorism ( anti terrorism op in Newcastle...looks like angry Buddhists this time though )..to worry about President trump,but then most you seem to hold those who voted for brexit and President trump in equal amount of disdain...even though he got elected democratically and brexit was voted the same or maybe that was a lie ???....as for jail,How about Mrs Clinton first... |
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it..
Is that not irony?
Given your obvious worry about your perceptions, wrong in my opinion on people in the UK of the Muslim faith?
I would say lock him up but it's a bit early for that yet.. Not really....i thought you guys had enough on your plates with brexit and terrorism ( anti terrorism op in Newcastle...looks like angry Buddhists this time though )..to worry about President trump,but then most you seem to hold those who voted for brexit and President trump in equal amount of disdain...even though he got elected democratically and brexit was voted the same or maybe that was a lie ???....as for jail,How about Mrs Clinton first..."
Being honest I have never worried about terrorism, be that in your own fair Isle, abroad or here. Being aware and keeping an eye out yes but not worrying about something that is less likely to impact on myself and my own than a d*unken driver..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One thing is certain - it will end with the mother and father of Twitter tantrums!
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If you mean the 2nd term he will get id say your right....going by brexit ye like to throw the rattle about after what seems to be the will of your fellow countrymen  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How terribly unpatriotic of me
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if you say so yourself...a vote was called...your countrymen chose to leave by that vote so why wine and moan about it or throw a tantrum like a child ( think that's how ye guys describe trump )...when it's looking like Brussels isn't going to budge on anything |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it.."
So far, it's rolling along, thanks. That's the benefit of being on the other side of the world from Europe |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"How terribly unpatriotic of me
if you say so yourself...a vote was called...your countrymen chose to leave by that vote so why wine and moan about it or throw a tantrum like a child ( think that's how ye guys describe trump )...when it's looking like Brussels isn't going to budge on anything "
straw man post of the week |
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So the mob boss gets a get out of jail card?
That sends the wrong message to every one in regards to the rule of law-no one is above the law. It undermines the legitimacy of democracy and the legislative branch in the eyes of all folks watching (foreign and national) justice has to prevail even for a sitting President.
The balance between negative image it portrays of the US-short term embarrassment- outweighs the long term benefit and strengthens the ideology of democracy and the legislative branches.
I cannot see it going any other route but justice. Jail term is my prediction (how long? i dont know) and codifying norms he has disregarded to prevent a future authoritarian leader coming to power. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So the mob boss gets a get out of jail card?
That sends the wrong message to every one in regards to the rule of law-no one is above the law. It undermines the legitimacy of democracy and the legislative branch in the eyes of all folks watching (foreign and national) justice has to prevail even for a sitting President.
The balance between negative image it portrays of the US-short term embarrassment- outweighs the long term benefit and strengthens the ideology of democracy and the legislative branches.
I cannot see it going any other route but justice. Jail term is my prediction (how long? i dont know) and codifying norms he has disregarded to prevent a future authoritarian leader coming to power."
And will the pitch forks be out if/when he gets a second term or will it be the Russians/Putin helping him gain a second term again ...where is the hard evidence that he committed any wrong doing because as far as i can see since he ran for office and has been in office he's has been accused of everything short of the crucifixion of Christ...and so far nothing.. |
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"So the mob boss gets a get out of jail card?
That sends the wrong message to every one in regards to the rule of law-no one is above the law. It undermines the legitimacy of democracy and the legislative branch in the eyes of all folks watching (foreign and national) justice has to prevail even for a sitting President.
The balance between negative image it portrays of the US-short term embarrassment- outweighs the long term benefit and strengthens the ideology of democracy and the legislative branches.
I cannot see it going any other route but justice. Jail term is my prediction (how long? i dont know) and codifying norms he has disregarded to prevent a future authoritarian leader coming to power.And will the pitch forks be out if/when he gets a second term or will it be the Russians/Putin helping him gain a second term again ...where is the hard evidence that he committed any wrong doing because as far as i can see since he ran for office and has been in office he's has been accused of everything short of the crucifixion of Christ...and so far nothing.."
You're right were in the present and that future event hasn't occurred yet. A rational person can see from the evidence;
1.) filings that "Individual 1" will be indicted on campaign finance under state offence.
2.) Russian interference in election campaign after a dozen or more Russians and several US campaign officials convicted under a federal case
Both of the above headed by the mob boss who at least had knowledge.
But i do concede he maybe cleared, if and only if, I was living under a rock and gave up on reality and reasoning.  |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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I read a piece today that the inauguration ceremony is under criminal investigation.
It appears the invoices don't match what was actually delivered - some people made millions of $ out of it apparently.
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"I read a piece today that the inauguration ceremony is under criminal investigation.
It appears the invoices don't match what was actually delivered - some people made millions of $ out of it apparently.
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Plus sealed grand jury hearing today, they blocked off the whole floor of the court. From what I read today (and speculation) it looks like an appeal by mob boss regarding Special Council subpoena-the boss has been subpoenaed months ago lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I read a piece today that the inauguration ceremony is under criminal investigation.
It appears the invoices don't match what was actually delivered - some people made millions of $ out of it apparently.
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Mmmmmmhhhhh sounds like the Clinton foundation |
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"I read a piece today that the inauguration ceremony is under criminal investigation.
It appears the invoices don't match what was actually delivered - some people made millions of $ out of it apparently.
Mmmmmmhhhhh sounds like the Clinton foundation "
Makes sense  bless ya |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I read a piece today that the inauguration ceremony is under criminal investigation.
It appears the invoices don't match what was actually delivered - some people made millions of $ out of it apparently.
Mmmmmmhhhhh sounds like the Clinton foundation
Makes sense bless ya "
As i said earlier lady's....ie crooked Clintons first |
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"I read a piece today that the inauguration ceremony is under criminal investigation.
It appears the invoices don't match what was actually delivered - some people made millions of $ out of it apparently.
Mmmmmmhhhhh sounds like the Clinton foundation
Makes sense bless ya As i said earlier lady's....ie crooked Clintons first "
Mwaaaaaaaaahhh  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"lock him up"
they won't "lock him up" yet because it is standard DOJ protocol that you don't indite a sitting president.... if they go after him i don't honestly think it will come from mueller... it will come from from the SDNY (Southern District of New York) having made such a case that the DOJ test it and it ends up with the Supreme Court to make that decision.....
it could go two ways.... that SDNY and Mueller won't charge him.... but will call him an "unindicted co-conspirator" in which case it will be left to congress to impeach him....
or.... they could "seal" any charges and charge him when he is no longer president (under the statute of limitations)....
anyway.... i think Don JR or Jared end up being charged before "individual 1" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To be honest I would be more than happy if his hair spontaneously combusted and we could all see him as he really is, a vain and ignorant old man who has no real idea of what he is doing and could not care less who he hurts while trying to achieve his myopic vision. He is not a great businessman, just a lucky one who happened to make money out of rising property values in nyc off the back of his fathers investments. Someone really should do something about him to put America and the world out of his misery. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump - What next?
He'll be re-elected for another term "
Sadly this is true, no matter what horrific shit he does and says, they’ll vote for him anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Trump - What next?
He'll be re-elected for another term
Sadly this is true, no matter what horrific shit he does and says, they’ll vote for him anyway. "
i keep forgetting how much better the other candidates for President looked .. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first "
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it..
Hilarious. Can we look forward to silence on the UK from you in the future?"
I guess you can when the shit your country does stops effecting mine how's that for a deal |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it..
Hilarious. Can we look forward to silence on the UK from you in the future?I guess you can when the shit your country does stops effecting mine how's that for a deal "
Haha. Oh irony.
When the shit America does stops effecting the rest of us, Then how about we shut up about it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it..
Hilarious. Can we look forward to silence on the UK from you in the future?I guess you can when the shit your country does stops effecting mine how's that for a deal
Haha. Oh irony.
When the shit America does stops effecting the rest of us, Then how about we shut up about it?"
Irony ....there's a lot of shit country's other then america do that effect us...fuck is your hate for trump that bad you can't see that |
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it..
Hilarious. Can we look forward to silence on the UK from you in the future?I guess you can when the shit your country does stops effecting mine how's that for a deal
Haha. Oh irony.
When the shit America does stops effecting the rest of us, Then how about we shut up about it?Irony ....there's a lot of shit country's other then america do that effect us...fuck is your hate for trump that bad you can't see that "
Sadly, most countries (use to) look to America as a model of progress, as a world power and a roadmap to the benefits of democractic ideology. Trumpism is seen as a break in that path, an unexpected negative, and in brief, depending on your view on life, expected things in life are classed as good, and unexpected as evil.
On balance I think the negative foreign impact America has on parts of the world are outweighed drastically by the positives, being by nature a superpower always puts them in the forefront of conflicts and folks seem to connect only negative connections of their impact.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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For decades now the world has looked to the US for financial and military support. They have policed the globe all this time, and now have found themselves in a slump. It’s ok the world turning to them, but who do they turn to when things go wrong? There is nobody, and so they look inwards, I for one don’t blame them.
Leftists will never understand that this president is for America and will put his own country first every time. I believe he will get a second term in office and will succeed in making America great again.
Too bad we can’t elect as prime minister that would concentrate on the UK and her people in the same way. |
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"For decades now the world has looked to the US for financial and military support. They have policed the globe all this time, and now have found themselves in a slump. It’s ok the world turning to them, but who do they turn to when things go wrong? There is nobody, and so they look inwards, I for one don’t blame them.
Leftists will never understand that this president is for America and will put his own country first every time. I believe he will get a second term in office and will succeed in making America great again.
Too bad we can’t elect as prime minister that would concentrate on the UK and her people in the same way."
A country does not exist in isolation, even North Korea.
I’d replace the word America or any notion of the country in your message with the word Trump and it’ll be more logical. |
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"For decades now the world has looked to the US for financial and military support. They have policed the globe all this time, and now have found themselves in a slump. It’s ok the world turning to them, but who do they turn to when things go wrong? There is nobody, and so they look inwards, I for one don’t blame them.
Leftists will never understand that this president is for America and will put his own country first every time. I believe he will get a second term in office and will succeed in making America great again.
Too bad we can’t elect as prime minister that would concentrate on the UK and her people in the same way."
They did not do any of those things out of anything other than a global expansion for their own ideals and trade, bit like many other empires had..
What you call pricing the globe was also about overturning democratically elected government by military force for their own tinpot dictators to oppress..
Your post may have some merit as a debating position till you trot out the banal cliche that trump used to con his own electorate.. |
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"For decades now the world has looked to the US for financial and military support. They have policed the globe all this time, and now have found themselves in a slump. It’s ok the world turning to them, but who do they turn to when things go wrong? There is nobody, and so they look inwards, I for one don’t blame them.
Leftists will never understand that this president is for America and will put his own country first every time. I believe he will get a second term in office and will succeed in making America great again.
Too bad we can’t elect as prime minister that would concentrate on the UK and her people in the same way.
They did not do any of those things out of anything other than a global expansion for their own ideals and trade, bit like many other empires had..
What you call pricing the globe was also about overturning democratically elected government by military force for their own tinpot dictators to oppress..
Your post may have some merit as a debating position till you trot out the banal cliche that trump used to con his own electorate.. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For decades now the world has looked to the US for financial and military support. They have policed the globe all this time, and now have found themselves in a slump. It’s ok the world turning to them, but who do they turn to when things go wrong? There is nobody, and so they look inwards, I for one don’t blame them.
Leftists will never understand that this president is for America and will put his own country first every time. I believe he will get a second term in office and will succeed in making America great again.
Too bad we can’t elect as prime minister that would concentrate on the UK and her people in the same way."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army "
Bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to service personnel don't we... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army Bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to service personnel don't we..."
you clearly approve of the scummy racist far right white supremacist shit that are making a safe space for themselves in the army |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it..
Hilarious. Can we look forward to silence on the UK from you in the future?I guess you can when the shit your country does stops effecting mine how's that for a deal
Haha. Oh irony.
When the shit America does stops effecting the rest of us, Then how about we shut up about it?Irony ....there's a lot of shit country's other then america do that effect us...fuck is your hate for trump that bad you can't see that "
I didn’t say anything about Trump. I just pointed out how moronic your post was. Because it’s fun to poke you and see what happens. It appears that you were so angry you lost the ability to type. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Shushhhhhhh, best not mention how Crooked Hillary cheated Bernie Sanders out of the Democrat nomination. "
I know...amazing how the blind haters of trump/remoaners forget that lol |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"So...the ‘third man in the room’ was indeed Trump. What now- impeachment, censoring, trial once term over?
Place your bets here- offering highest odds on the last one unless by some absolute miracle he becomes a true leader rather than a complete egotist"
He shouldn't be impeached. It will just stoke his base.
Evidence can be sealed until he leaves office.
His naked attempts to suppress and subvert the legal and legislative process will hang him. If not, the recession will.
Of course, like all those who "know" that they are right it will be someone else's fault. A conspiracy. The true believers will still believe.
However, that base is not that actually that big. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So...the ‘third man in the room’ was indeed Trump. What now- impeachment, censoring, trial once term over?
Place your bets here- offering highest odds on the last one unless by some absolute miracle he becomes a true leader rather than a complete egotist
He shouldn't be impeached. It will just stoke his base.
Evidence can be sealed until he leaves office.
His naked attempts to suppress and subvert the legal and legislative process will hang him. If not, the recession will.
Of course, like all those who "know" that they are right it will be someone else's fault. A conspiracy. The true believers will still believe.
However, that base is not that actually that big."
another expert |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"So...the ‘third man in the room’ was indeed Trump. What now- impeachment, censoring, trial once term over?
Place your bets here- offering highest odds on the last one unless by some absolute miracle he becomes a true leader rather than a complete egotist
He shouldn't be impeached. It will just stoke his base.
Evidence can be sealed until he leaves office.
His naked attempts to suppress and subvert the legal and legislative process will hang him. If not, the recession will.
Of course, like all those who "know" that they are right it will be someone else's fault. A conspiracy. The true believers will still believe.
However, that base is not that actually that big.another expert "
Just reading.
I could just make it up though |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"lock him up
they won't "lock him up" yet because it is standard DOJ protocol that you don't indite a sitting president.... if they go after him i don't honestly think it will come from mueller... it will come from from the SDNY (Southern District of New York) having made such a case that the DOJ test it and it ends up with the Supreme Court to make that decision.....
it could go two ways.... that SDNY and Mueller won't charge him.... but will call him an "unindicted co-conspirator" in which case it will be left to congress to impeach him....
or.... they could "seal" any charges and charge him when he is no longer president (under the statute of limitations)....
anyway.... i think Don JR or Jared end up being charged before "individual 1""
Agree with you. Don’t think he’ll be impeached but would that make him seek re-election? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"lock him up
they won't "lock him up" yet because it is standard DOJ protocol that you don't indite a sitting president.... if they go after him i don't honestly think it will come from mueller... it will come from from the SDNY (Southern District of New York) having made such a case that the DOJ test it and it ends up with the Supreme Court to make that decision.....
it could go two ways.... that SDNY and Mueller won't charge him.... but will call him an "unindicted co-conspirator" in which case it will be left to congress to impeach him....
or.... they could "seal" any charges and charge him when he is no longer president (under the statute of limitations)....
anyway.... i think Don JR or Jared end up being charged before "individual 1"
Agree with you. Don’t think he’ll be impeached but would that make him seek re-election?"
It could go two ways. Get re-elected to hand out the pardons and corrupt the system or run away... |
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army Bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to service personnel don't we...
you clearly approve of the scummy racist far right white supremacist shit that are making a safe space for themselves in the armymmhhh ???,i think in a previous life you walked in on a section of squadies balls deep in an x girlfriend or something cause fuck you got a very very very big chip on those shoulders "
scummy racist grunts dont have balls gomer |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army Bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to service personnel don't we...
you clearly approve of the scummy racist far right white supremacist shit that are making a safe space for themselves in the armymmhhh ???,i think in a previous life you walked in on a section of squadies balls deep in an x girlfriend or something cause fuck you got a very very very big chip on those shoulders "
You could read that how you want.
He hates all soldiers.
What it actually indicates to me is that soldiers in general are fine but he hates racist soldiers.
There has been a conviction and photographs to indicate some level of racist sympathy in the army and Royal Marines but level could be, and hopefully is, tiny. Ironically the armed forces spend a lot of time with "foreigners" which greatly reduces the likelihood of holding racist views. |
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army Bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to service personnel don't we...
you clearly approve of the scummy racist far right white supremacist shit that are making a safe space for themselves in the armymmhhh ???,i think in a previous life you walked in on a section of squadies balls deep in an x girlfriend or something cause fuck you got a very very very big chip on those shoulders
You could read that how you want.
He hates all soldiers.
What it actually indicates to me is that soldiers in general are fine but he hates racist soldiers.
There has been a conviction and photographs to indicate some level of racist sympathy in the army and Royal Marines but level could be, and hopefully is, tiny. Ironically the armed forces spend a lot of time with "foreigners" which greatly reduces the likelihood of holding racist views."
Also the reason UKIPs support is lowest in multicultural cities and highest in white middle-England. |
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army Bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to service personnel don't we...
you clearly approve of the scummy racist far right white supremacist shit that are making a safe space for themselves in the armymmhhh ???,i think in a previous life you walked in on a section of squadies balls deep in an x girlfriend or something cause fuck you got a very very very big chip on those shoulders
scummy racist grunts dont have balls gomer "
Grunts ???? It must have been American soldiers balls deep in a x ( or current) partner of yours then. |
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army Bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to service personnel don't we...
you clearly approve of the scummy racist far right white supremacist shit that are making a safe space for themselves in the armymmhhh ???,i think in a previous life you walked in on a section of squadies balls deep in an x girlfriend or something cause fuck you got a very very very big chip on those shoulders
scummy racist grunts dont have balls gomer "
My my, someone really is full of shit as per usual... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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ansd since we are talking about "talking rubbish" peace...... trying practising what you preach, because this is a solid example of "weapon grade bs"
"For decades now the world has looked to the US for financial and military support. They have policed the globe all this time, and now have found themselves in a slump. It’s ok the world turning to them, but who do they turn to when things go wrong? There is nobody, and so they look inwards, I for one don’t blame them."
so.... please back up this statement with just one example........
because last time i remembered they backed up the us in 2 gulf wars... and the only time nato invoked article 5... you will have to tell me who did it, and how all the other countries reacted to it.....
"Leftists will never understand that this president is for America and will put his own country first every time. I believe he will get a second term in office and will succeed in making America great again.
Too bad we can’t elect as prime minister that would concentrate on the UK and her people in the same way."
so when was america "great" before trump to not be great now? now the era!... just curious???
they understand that the way to insert your influence on the world is not to rip and and walk away from international treaties such as the paris climate change agreement... (but if you campaign in financed by coal and oil tycoons... i don't suppose that has any influence in policy making at all) or the iran nuclear deal
if the uk elected someone like trump they would be laughed at the same way the trump administration is... that why EU ministers laugh at BoJo for example.... |
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"lock him upmeh how about killory first
how about the scummy racist far right white supremacists who have made a safe space for themselves in the army Bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to service personnel don't we...
you clearly approve of the scummy racist far right white supremacist shit that are making a safe space for themselves in the armymmhhh ???,i think in a previous life you walked in on a section of squadies balls deep in an x girlfriend or something cause fuck you got a very very very big chip on those shoulders
scummy racist grunts dont have balls gomer Grunts ???? It must have been American soldiers balls deep in a x ( or current) partner of yours then."
like i said private pile ... racist grunts have no balls ... pussies definately but bollocks , nada |
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"Maybe worry about your own country and it's leadership before looking outside of it..
Hilarious. Can we look forward to silence on the UK from you in the future?I guess you can when the shit your country does stops effecting mine how's that for a deal "
And vice versa surely? |
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