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over a year ago
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"Apparently he was solely "responsible" for the boom. Is he solely responsible for the drop?
Over to his fan club..."
But it will be the biggest drop in history  |
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Trump lies about deal with China and DOW goes up 400 points, Trump is a genius, Trumps lie is found out and DOW drops 500 points, its a conspiracy to make Trump look bad...
Trump's base and Fox will love it...
The 10 to 100,000 who lose their jobs as a result will blame those opposed to Trump and the orange monkey in the Oval Office will make another 1 million or 10 on the backs of those he has just shafted. |
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Trump is showing signs of dementia...He is clearly unfit for office,and it is up to someone in the White house to raise the matter......He has truly lost whatever he once possessed.....I watched a speech he made and he rambled and lost the thread of the subject.Wandering incoherently even his audience were looking around at each other....Even worse was to read the text of the speech. Truly the words of a man in mental decline  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Apparently he was solely "responsible" for the boom. Is he solely responsible for the drop?
Over to his fan club..."
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No... that would be the chairman of the fed, who he appointed.... and his treasury secretary, who he appointed!
Nothing to do with his tariffs at all.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fuck sake!
Trump is no more responsible for the “crash” than he was the “boom.” The world is heading for recession and he is trying to contain his country by putting it first and foremost.
The US might get through this horrible world slump / recession, but we are already holding on by our finger tips.
We need a no deal BREXIT, and a change of pm, ASAP. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"Fuck sake!
Trump is no more responsible for the “crash” than he was the “boom.” The world is heading for recession and he is trying to contain his country by putting it first and foremost.
The US might get through this horrible world slump / recession, but we are already holding on by our finger tips.
We need a no deal BREXIT, and a change of pm, ASAP."
Exactly, but you don't see the gaslighting that Trump is doing in trying to claim all the credit for the "boom" and then disown it all for the "crash"? Have you seen all his latest tweets about the government shutdown? Calling it the "Dem shutdown" and "Schumer Shutdown" despite on a televised interview just a week before said "I will own this shutdown"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n-Y4TIgktg
Yes, I think we could well be on our way to a world slump and recession. I'm not sure how a no deal Brexit, or any Brexit for that matter would help. And I don't see how you think it would either considering you stated that you don't see any material benefit of Brexit.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Fuck sake!
Trump is no more responsible for the “crash” than he was the “boom.” The world is heading for recession and he is trying to contain his country by putting it first and foremost.
The US might get through this horrible world slump / recession, but we are already holding on by our finger tips.
We need a no deal BREXIT, and a change of pm, ASAP.
Exactly, but you don't see the gaslighting that Trump is doing in trying to claim all the credit for the "boom" and then disown it all for the "crash"? Have you seen all his latest tweets about the government shutdown? Calling it the "Dem shutdown" and "Schumer Shutdown" despite on a televised interview just a week before said "I will own this shutdown"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n-Y4TIgktg
Yes, I think we could well be on our way to a world slump and recession. I'm not sure how a no deal Brexit, or any Brexit for that matter would help. And I don't see how you think it would either considering you stated that you don't see any material benefit of Brexit.
-Matt"
Read what I type as it was meant. I said I had no material benefit from a no deal BREXIT. That meaning myself personally. My finances will not change, but that doesn’t mean I don’t believe the country as a whole will benefit.
Once we put the plug back in and stop letting our money drain towards Brussels, then get Britain plc working for itself, we will know that we have won, and we were right! |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Fuck sake!
Trump is no more responsible for the “crash” than he was the “boom.” The world is heading for recession and he is trying to contain his country by putting it first and foremost.
The US might get through this horrible world slump / recession, but we are already holding on by our finger tips.
We need a no deal BREXIT, and a change of pm, ASAP.
Exactly, but you don't see the gaslighting that Trump is doing in trying to claim all the credit for the "boom" and then disown it all for the "crash"? Have you seen all his latest tweets about the government shutdown? Calling it the "Dem shutdown" and "Schumer Shutdown" despite on a televised interview just a week before said "I will own this shutdown"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n-Y4TIgktg
Yes, I think we could well be on our way to a world slump and recession. I'm not sure how a no deal Brexit, or any Brexit for that matter would help. And I don't see how you think it would either considering you stated that you don't see any material benefit of Brexit.
-Matt
Read what I type as it was meant. I said I had no material benefit from a no deal BREXIT. That meaning myself personally. My finances will not change, but that doesn’t mean I don’t believe the country as a whole will benefit.
Once we put the plug back in and stop letting our money drain towards Brussels, then get Britain plc working for itself, we will know that we have won, and we were right!"
Fair enough, apologies for the misunderstanding.
As for "plugging the hole" well yes, you might think you have "plugged the hole" but you've then gone and smashed an even bigger one at the other end.
How long do you think to get Britain Plc working again? Do you agree with JRM's 50 year estimate? If not, why not?
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Fuck sake!
Trump is no more responsible for the “crash” than he was the “boom.” The world is heading for recession and he is trying to contain his country by putting it first and foremost.
The US might get through this horrible world slump / recession, but we are already holding on by our finger tips.
We need a no deal BREXIT, and a change of pm, ASAP."
The country is doing far better than holding on by its fingertips. The economy has been booming. The wealth has not been distributed.
Brexit will not change that. In fact, the deregulation that you call "red tape" will mae the problem bigger.
Putting up tariff barriers with the EU will mean that we suffer even more during the next crash.
Centaur may not be able to grasp this but perhaps you can. The entire EU is our home market so when a recession hits and spending drops it is easier and cheaper to trade at home.
However, if the definition of home shrinks then we have a market to sell to compared to what we have surrendered. The remaining EU countries can substitute, in a large part, lost sales to us with what the sales we will lose to them. They will sell to each other instead.
We will be alone.
The "hole" that you see money being paid to the EU is multiplied by the benefits we get in international influence and increased trade both within the EU and externally with an ability to cut much bigger, more advantageous deals. It's the only long term investment that this country has ever made and it's been a hugely successful one.
You are advocating the same short term crap that has run politics into the ground yet you claim you are changing things.
You have no plan. Your Brexit leaders have no plan. Just empty words and running away from the failure whilst blaming everyone else.
Take some responsibility. Start a thread and rather than criticising remainers start a thread where you outline your plan for improving our lives outside the EU. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Fuck sake!
Trump is no more responsible for the “crash” than he was the “boom.” The world is heading for recession and he is trying to contain his country by putting it first and foremost.
The US might get through this horrible world slump / recession, but we are already holding on by our finger tips.
We need a no deal BREXIT, and a change of pm, ASAP."
oh lord... you managed to bait and switch and change the topic......
just admit that he took a lot of the credit for the stock market when it was at its high..... and since it took a dive he blamed other people!!!
then you can move on..... he like taking a victory lap but then high tail it out when it went down.....
you could take the comparison with the current government shutdown.... he was the one who said he would take responsability if it happens, now the backlash is coming he is trying to shift the blame to the dems......
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Fuck sake!
Trump is no more responsible for the “crash” than he was the “boom.” The world is heading for recession and he is trying to contain his country by putting it first and foremost.
The US might get through this horrible world slump / recession, but we are already holding on by our finger tips.
We need a no deal BREXIT, and a change of pm, ASAP.
oh lord... you managed to bait and switch and change the topic......
just admit that he took a lot of the credit for the stock market when it was at its high..... and since it took a dive he blamed other people!!!
then you can move on..... he like taking a victory lap but then high tail it out when it went down.....
you could take the comparison with the current government shutdown.... he was the one who said he would take responsability if it happens, now the backlash is coming he is trying to shift the blame to the dems......
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To be fair I don't think that Pwacehaven has ever supported Trump on the forums.
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest. |
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest."
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
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Day 5
Presses the nuclear button to cover it all up |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
Day 5
Presses the nuclear button to cover it all up"
You forgot the pizza restaurant paedophile ring though
Trump is the President though, and he could believably complete both lists.
You haven't contributed to the thread asking if Trump owned the US stock market crash as well as the boom  |
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
Day 5
Presses the nuclear button to cover it all up
You forgot the pizza restaurant paedophile ring though
Trump is the President though, and he could believably complete both lists.
You haven't contributed to the thread asking if Trump owned the US stock market crash as well as the boom "
I was just giving an alternative to yours on Trump but in a shorter version.
193 million and those are the best you can come up with.
We're doomed yah hear doomed
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
Day 5
Presses the nuclear button to cover it all up
You forgot the pizza restaurant paedophile ring though
Trump is the President though, and he could believably complete both lists.
You haven't contributed to the thread asking if Trump owned the US stock market crash as well as the boom
I was just giving an alternative to yours on Trump but in a shorter version.
193 million and those are the best you can come up with.
We're doomed yah hear doomed
"
Short answer is no he will not.
But which President has ? |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
Day 5
Presses the nuclear button to cover it all up
You forgot the pizza restaurant paedophile ring though
Trump is the President though, and he could believably complete both lists.
You haven't contributed to the thread asking if Trump owned the US stock market crash as well as the boom
I was just giving an alternative to yours on Trump but in a shorter version.
193 million and those are the best you can come up with.
We're doomed yah hear doomed
"
193 million what?
I didn't say anything about being doomed. Odd bot of hyperbole.
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
Day 5
Presses the nuclear button to cover it all up
You forgot the pizza restaurant paedophile ring though
Trump is the President though, and he could believably complete both lists.
You haven't contributed to the thread asking if Trump owned the US stock market crash as well as the boom
I was just giving an alternative to yours on Trump but in a shorter version.
193 million and those are the best you can come up with.
We're doomed yah hear doomed
193 million what?
I didn't say anything about being doomed. Odd bot of hyperbole.
So, does Trump own the crash and the boom?"
193 million people to choose from and it gets whittled down to these 2.
Hence the doomed statement
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
Day 5
Presses the nuclear button to cover it all up
You forgot the pizza restaurant paedophile ring though
Trump is the President though, and he could believably complete both lists.
You haven't contributed to the thread asking if Trump owned the US stock market crash as well as the boom
I was just giving an alternative to yours on Trump but in a shorter version.
193 million and those are the best you can come up with.
We're doomed yah hear doomed
193 million what?
I didn't say anything about being doomed. Odd bot of hyperbole.
So, does Trump own the crash and the boom?"
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My question was:
Apparently he was solely "responsible" for the boom. Is he solely responsible for the drop?
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Short answer is no he will not.
But which President has ?"
So are you saying that he was responsible for neither or that he can take the credit for the boom but not the crash?
Your answer is ambiguous wouldn't you say?
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He was neither fully responsible for the rise nor the fall but partly for setting up the environment for both (large tax breaks put money into the economy causing stocks to rise - starting unnecessary trade wars with EU and China causes uncertainty in business causing stocks to fall)
I think there's a high likelihood that Trump will not be President by 2021 but it won't be through impeachment and trial (and 'no' not assassination either).
Keep watching and listening. Look at him closely, listen to him and read his tweets and posts. The answer to his demise is there and gets clearer every day.
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"Fuck sake!
Trump is no more responsible for the “crash” than he was the “boom.” The world is heading for recession and he is trying to contain his country by putting it first and foremost.
The US might get through this horrible world slump / recession, but we are already holding on by our finger tips.
We need a no deal BREXIT, and a change of pm, ASAP.
The country is doing far better than holding on by its fingertips. The economy has been booming. The wealth has not been distributed.
Brexit will not change that. In fact, the deregulation that you call "red tape" will mae the problem bigger.
Putting up tariff barriers with the EU will mean that we suffer even more during the next crash.
Centaur may not be able to grasp this but perhaps you can. The entire EU is our home market so when a recession hits and spending drops it is easier and cheaper to trade at home.
However, if the definition of home shrinks then we have a market to sell to compared to what we have surrendered. The remaining EU countries can substitute, in a large part, lost sales to us with what the sales we will lose to them. They will sell to each other instead.
We will be alone.
The "hole" that you see money being paid to the EU is multiplied by the benefits we get in international influence and increased trade both within the EU and externally with an ability to cut much bigger, more advantageous deals. It's the only long term investment that this country has ever made and it's been a hugely successful one.
You are advocating the same short term crap that has run politics into the ground yet you claim you are changing things.
You have no plan. Your Brexit leaders have no plan. Just empty words and running away from the failure whilst blaming everyone else.
Take some responsibility. Start a thread and rather than criticising remainers start a thread where you outline your plan for improving our lives outside the EU."
The common theme I'm seeing with populist ideology is that they don't know what they want.
They have misplaced anger and want to destroy things but are not starting with the end in mind and designing backwards with any vision of what to construct.
It's all a big mess.
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over a year ago
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
A guide to the Hillary Clinton Presidency.
Day 1
All the money disappears.
Day 2
She blames it on the Russians.
Day 3
Bill is caught having it away with an intern again.
Day 4
She kills all of those who got in her and bills way.
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oooh... guess who the "infowars" conspiracy theorist is....... well thats two of them on the site we know of now....
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I don't know about all the other shit wrote on here by the egg heads but a quick Google will tell you that the fed are trying to unwind some of the QE, so money in used to buy shares is now shares being sold to pay back QE.
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"I don't know about all the other shit wrote on here by the egg heads but a quick Google will tell you that the fed are trying to unwind some of the QE, so money in used to buy shares is now shares being sold to pay back QE.
It's not rocket science "
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest."
Goodness me, so much paranoia and delusion in one post. Or perhaps it is what you would like to see happen, so that you can shout about how “right you are” about the President. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"I don't know about all the other shit wrote on here by the egg heads but a quick Google will tell you that the fed are trying to unwind some of the QE, so money in used to buy shares is now shares being sold to pay back QE.
It's not rocket science "
That is what is technically known as a load of "baloney" in New York.
I have a strong feeling that you have not a clue about what quantitative easing is.
Quantitative easing is not something that gets "paid back". |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
Goodness me, so much paranoia and delusion in one post. Or perhaps it is what you would like to see happen, so that you can shout about how “right you are” about the President."
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"I don't know about all the other shit wrote on here by the egg heads but a quick Google will tell you that the fed are trying to unwind some of the QE, so money in used to buy shares is now shares being sold to pay back QE.
It's not rocket science
That is what is technically known as a load of "baloney" in New York.
I have a strong feeling that you have not a clue about what quantitative easing is.
Quantitative easing is not something that gets "paid back"."
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Personally, not a clue but according to Bloomberg QE became QT in July 18, taking 85 billion a month out of the markets, apparently it's all part of the feds plans of "normalisation" whatever that means.
Anyhow in short the story says that money will come out of mainly the stock markets... Hence the declining stock markets since July  |
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Ps QT stands for quantitative tightening and according to Bloomberg is "basically the opposite of QE".
Although what the funk do Bloomberg know about this stuff I like to get my financial know how from a bunch of egg head keyboard warriors on a swinging site |
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over a year ago
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"Ps QT stands for quantitative tightening and according to Bloomberg is "basically the opposite of QE".
Although what the funk do Bloomberg know about this stuff I like to get my financial know how from a bunch of egg head keyboard warriors on a swinging site "
Why are you posting half understood information in a forum that you are not interested in then?
Good use of arbitrary derogatory language though. That's definitely taught someone a lesson about something
Do you think that you have now addressed the actual question in the first post in the thread? |
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"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
Goodness me, so much paranoia and delusion in one post. Or perhaps it is what you would like to see happen, so that you can shout about how “right you are” about the President.
Alternatively it's satire "
It might well be, or something else masked as satire... |
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over a year ago
West London |
"A guide to the Trump presidency of 2019
DONALD Trump will begin 2019 as president of the United States of America. But will he finish the year that way, and will the USA survive? Find out:
JANUARY
Trump and his bizarre family celebrate New Year’s Eve in their stylishly excessive way by shooting a sacred white buffalo in the 57th-storey piano room of Trump Tower.
FEBRUARY
Trump gives contentious posthumous pardon to John Wilkes Booth.
MARCH
Trump gives press conference querying whether the internet is working because Kanye West has neither liked nor retweeted any of his tweets for months.
APRIL
Arrested and charged with more than 177 offences, including the newly-coined crime of megatreason, a bewildered Trump asks how Hillary Clinton has got away with this.
MAY
Taking the stand for the first time, Trump offers to provide incriminating testimony against his colleagues, his family, his wife and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.
JUNE
Anyone and everyone ever connected with Donald Trump, including Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan and Macauley Culkin, is arrested. ‘I am the only innocent man in America,’ Trump claims.
JULY
Forced to swear on a bible, Melania Trump dissolves into more than a thousand venomous snakes. Fox News admires their natural beauty and grace.
AUGUST
President Mike Pence announces the conversion of everyone in the United States, and Israel, to Christianity. Deposed next day when his torrid affair with Arlene Foster revealed.
SEPTEMBER
Representing himself, Trump tells trial judge ‘You’re fired’. Is told ‘This is not The Apprentice.’ Says ‘You’re fired!’ again.
OCTOBER
Trump pleads insanity. Judge rules it self-evident.
NOVEMBER
Found guilty on all charges, Trump sentenced to live in a magnetic cell orbiting the Earth.
DECEMBER
Trump announces 2020 presidential run. Has strong support from rural white conservatives in the Midwest.
Goodness me, so much paranoia and delusion in one post. Or perhaps it is what you would like to see happen, so that you can shout about how “right you are” about the President.
Alternatively it's satire
It might well be, or something else masked as satire..."
What does that mean? At least finish the sentence to make it meaningful.
Is it a neo-liberal conspiracy against a far-sighted and visionary leader of great integrity and inclusivity? |
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"Ps QT stands for quantitative tightening and according to Bloomberg is "basically the opposite of QE".
Although what the funk do Bloomberg know about this stuff I like to get my financial know how from a bunch of egg head keyboard warriors on a swinging site
Why are you posting half understood information in a forum that you are not interested in then?
Good use of arbitrary derogatory language though. That's definitely taught someone a lesson about something
Do you think that you have now addressed the actual question in the first post in the thread?"
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No I was only pulling your leg, I fully understand QE but don't worry, in sjw land there's no right and wrong and everybody gets a shiny star prize... Yippee
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"Ps QT stands for quantitative tightening and according to Bloomberg is "basically the opposite of QE".
Although what the funk do Bloomberg know about this stuff I like to get my financial know how from a bunch of egg head keyboard warriors on a swinging site
Why are you posting half understood information in a forum that you are not interested in then?
Good use of arbitrary derogatory language though. That's definitely taught someone a lesson about something
Do you think that you have now addressed the actual question in the first post in the thread?.
No I was only pulling your leg, I fully understand QE but don't worry, in sjw land there's no right and wrong and everybody gets a shiny star prize... Yippee
"
So you're answer to the actual question is what? You claim to have answered but really failed to quite comprehensively. Let's leave QE to one side as you have proven on more than one occasion that you don't understand it.
"Trump's stock market.
Apparently he was solely "responsible" for the boom. Is he solely responsible for the drop?" |
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He might have been responsible for the boom, as his policies for Americans first would have been a shot in the arm for US businesses. Unfortunately the world is on the brink of what might be quite a nasty recession, and even the mighty US of A cannot escape the effect and thus their boom is over, for now. |
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It's obvious Obama is responsible for the boom as it takes many years for policy to take effect and trump is responsible for the slump as he started an unecessary trade war .
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"Ps QT stands for quantitative tightening and according to Bloomberg is "basically the opposite of QE".
Although what the funk do Bloomberg know about this stuff I like to get my financial know how from a bunch of egg head keyboard warriors on a swinging site
Why are you posting half understood information in a forum that you are not interested in then?
Good use of arbitrary derogatory language though. That's definitely taught someone a lesson about something
Do you think that you have now addressed the actual question in the first post in the thread?.
No I was only pulling your leg, I fully understand QE but don't worry, in sjw land there's no right and wrong and everybody gets a shiny star prize... Yippee
So you're answer to the actual question is what? You claim to have answered but really failed to quite comprehensively. Let's leave QE to one side as you have proven on more than one occasion that you don't understand it.
"Trump's stock market.
Apparently he was solely "responsible" for the boom. Is he solely responsible for the drop?""
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Firstly I never attempted to or claimed to answer the question because it's a childish irrelevant one born from a sjw mindset.
Second yes let's leave QE to one side by all means but I think it's you who claimed to understand it but clearly don't when you stated to me "it doesn't work like that" when Bloomberg clearly says it does . |
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"Ps QT stands for quantitative tightening and according to Bloomberg is "basically the opposite of QE".
Although what the funk do Bloomberg know about this stuff I like to get my financial know how from a bunch of egg head keyboard warriors on a swinging site
Why are you posting half understood information in a forum that you are not interested in then?
Good use of arbitrary derogatory language though. That's definitely taught someone a lesson about something
Do you think that you have now addressed the actual question in the first post in the thread?.
No I was only pulling your leg, I fully understand QE but don't worry, in sjw land there's no right and wrong and everybody gets a shiny star prize... Yippee
So you're answer to the actual question is what? You claim to have answered but really failed to quite comprehensively. Let's leave QE to one side as you have proven on more than one occasion that you don't understand it.
"Trump's stock market.
Apparently he was solely "responsible" for the boom. Is he solely responsible for the drop?".
Firstly I never attempted to or claimed to answer the question because it's a childish irrelevant one born from a sjw mindset.
Second yes let's leave QE to one side by all means but I think it's you who claimed to understand it but clearly don't when you stated to me "it doesn't work like that" when Bloomberg clearly says it does ."
What are you talking about?
If you don't want to address the topic then why post at all?
That said, if you never claimed to answer the question then what did you mean when you wrote;
"I answered the original question"
Followed by;
"Short answer is no he will not.
But which President has ?"
Shares are not being sold to pay back QE as you originally stated. It really does not work that way. Another poster wrote that though, I said what you wrote was baloney
The Fed stopped buying government bonds (debt) held by banks. This reduced the cost of government debt because it increased demand by buying its own debt (yes, very messed up). Banks got cash to lend. Unfortunately it was spent on buying shares rather than investment helping the stock market but not the real economy. The reduction in government borrowing costs couldn't get spent on infrastructure because it was blocked by the Republicans.
Fortunately for everyone everywhere China kept spending and eventually this drove export sales in other economies driven by low interest rates allowing investment.
Then, in a growing market, rather than trying to get back to a more sensible level of interest he cut corporate taxes. Most of this money was spent on share buy-backs, artificially raising stock prices rather than wage increases or investment.
His version of America first by starting trade wars has inflated the national debt, increased the cost of raw materials, increased imports and reduced exports.
He pumped the peak and has made the trough sharper and faster.
The Fed stopped buying bonds which reduced the cash available to spend buying shares. They have also started to allow bonds to mature. If they start selling bonds then bond values will fall so they would have to judge what pace they go at. It's currently dead slow.
You obviously misunderstood and misquoted whatever you read on Bloomberg. Why insist that you're right? Mistakes are allowed. It's a complicated topic.
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oh boy... where to start with peace's post..... okay
"He might have been responsible for the boom,"
nope... as bob has rightly said... you could call it obama's recover and trump somehow hasn't messed it up.... fun fact for you. Obama's administration created more jobs per month in his last 22 months in office, than Trumps has done his is first 22 months!!!
but we shall go on....
"as his policies for Americans first would have been a shot in the arm for US businesses."
only if by shot in the arm you mean companies such as ford, and harley davidson moving production out of the US overseas as a way of getting round the tariffs that he put on!! in fact this policy have been so good they have had to bail out farmers to the tune of 12 billion dollars so far as a result of the retaliation tariffs put on by china!
so again.... we go on....
"Unfortunately the world is on the brink of what might be quite a nasty recession, and even the mighty US of A cannot escape the effect and thus their boom is over, for now."
if could be argued that all his tax cuts for his rich friends have done is overheat the economy to the point that the fed have had to raise interest rates to then slow down inflation!... |
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"Ps QT stands for quantitative tightening and according to Bloomberg is "basically the opposite of QE".
Although what the funk do Bloomberg know about this stuff I like to get my financial know how from a bunch of egg head keyboard warriors on a swinging site
Why are you posting half understood information in a forum that you are not interested in then?
Good use of arbitrary derogatory language though. That's definitely taught someone a lesson about something
Do you think that you have now addressed the actual question in the first post in the thread?.
No I was only pulling your leg, I fully understand QE but don't worry, in sjw land there's no right and wrong and everybody gets a shiny star prize... Yippee
So you're answer to the actual question is what? You claim to have answered but really failed to quite comprehensively. Let's leave QE to one side as you have proven on more than one occasion that you don't understand it.
"Trump's stock market.
Apparently he was solely "responsible" for the boom. Is he solely responsible for the drop?".
Firstly I never attempted to or claimed to answer the question because it's a childish irrelevant one born from a sjw mindset.
Second yes let's leave QE to one side by all means but I think it's you who claimed to understand it but clearly don't when you stated to me "it doesn't work like that" when Bloomberg clearly says it does .
What are you talking about?
If you don't want to address the topic then why post at all?
That said, if you never claimed to answer the question then what did you mean when you wrote;
"I answered the original question"
Followed by;
"Short answer is no he will not.
But which President has ?"
Shares are not being sold to pay back QE as you originally stated. It really does not work that way. Another poster wrote that though, I said what you wrote was baloney
The Fed stopped buying government bonds (debt) held by banks. This reduced the cost of government debt because it increased demand by buying its own debt (yes, very messed up). Banks got cash to lend. Unfortunately it was spent on buying shares rather than investment helping the stock market but not the real economy. The reduction in government borrowing costs couldn't get spent on infrastructure because it was blocked by the Republicans.
Fortunately for everyone everywhere China kept spending and eventually this drove export sales in other economies driven by low interest rates allowing investment.
Then, in a growing market, rather than trying to get back to a more sensible level of interest he cut corporate taxes. Most of this money was spent on share buy-backs, artificially raising stock prices rather than wage increases or investment.
His version of America first by starting trade wars has inflated the national debt, increased the cost of raw materials, increased imports and reduced exports.
He pumped the peak and has made the trough sharper and faster.
The Fed stopped buying bonds which reduced the cash available to spend buying shares. They have also started to allow bonds to mature. If they start selling bonds then bond values will fall so they would have to judge what pace they go at. It's currently dead slow.
You obviously misunderstood and misquoted whatever you read on Bloomberg. Why insist that you're right? Mistakes are allowed. It's a complicated topic.
It's always the cover-up that gets you "
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Your confusing my posts with other people's, your quoting me with others and others with what I actually posted.
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Here's the short answer for you to try to get into your brain... If the fed isn't buying bonds/debt/securities and somebody else is instead... Where's that money coming from?. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Ps QT stands for quantitative tightening and according to Bloomberg is "basically the opposite of QE".
Although what the funk do Bloomberg know about this stuff I like to get my financial know how from a bunch of egg head keyboard warriors on a swinging site
Why are you posting half understood information in a forum that you are not interested in then?
Good use of arbitrary derogatory language though. That's definitely taught someone a lesson about something
Do you think that you have now addressed the actual question in the first post in the thread?.
No I was only pulling your leg, I fully understand QE but don't worry, in sjw land there's no right and wrong and everybody gets a shiny star prize... Yippee
So you're answer to the actual question is what? You claim to have answered but really failed to quite comprehensively. Let's leave QE to one side as you have proven on more than one occasion that you don't understand it.
"Trump's stock market.
Apparently he was solely "responsible" for the boom. Is he solely responsible for the drop?".
Firstly I never attempted to or claimed to answer the question because it's a childish irrelevant one born from a sjw mindset.
Second yes let's leave QE to one side by all means but I think it's you who claimed to understand it but clearly don't when you stated to me "it doesn't work like that" when Bloomberg clearly says it does .
What are you talking about?
If you don't want to address the topic then why post at all?
That said, if you never claimed to answer the question then what did you mean when you wrote;
"I answered the original question"
Followed by;
"Short answer is no he will not.
But which President has ?"
Shares are not being sold to pay back QE as you originally stated. It really does not work that way. Another poster wrote that though, I said what you wrote was baloney
The Fed stopped buying government bonds (debt) held by banks. This reduced the cost of government debt because it increased demand by buying its own debt (yes, very messed up). Banks got cash to lend. Unfortunately it was spent on buying shares rather than investment helping the stock market but not the real economy. The reduction in government borrowing costs couldn't get spent on infrastructure because it was blocked by the Republicans.
Fortunately for everyone everywhere China kept spending and eventually this drove export sales in other economies driven by low interest rates allowing investment.
Then, in a growing market, rather than trying to get back to a more sensible level of interest he cut corporate taxes. Most of this money was spent on share buy-backs, artificially raising stock prices rather than wage increases or investment.
His version of America first by starting trade wars has inflated the national debt, increased the cost of raw materials, increased imports and reduced exports.
He pumped the peak and has made the trough sharper and faster.
The Fed stopped buying bonds which reduced the cash available to spend buying shares. They have also started to allow bonds to mature. If they start selling bonds then bond values will fall so they would have to judge what pace they go at. It's currently dead slow.
You obviously misunderstood and misquoted whatever you read on Bloomberg. Why insist that you're right? Mistakes are allowed. It's a complicated topic.
It's always the cover-up that gets you .
Your confusing my posts with other people's, your quoting me with others and others with what I actually posted.
If you can't even get posts and quotes right I fear you've got little hope with monetary matters "
Oh yes. I did confuse part of the post with reference to actually responding to the topic for which I apologise.
Your explanation for QE remains confused gibberish though |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Here's the short answer for you to try to get into your brain... If the fed isn't buying bonds/debt/securities and somebody else is instead... Where's that money coming from?."
Are shares being sold to pay back QE?
Is that "a thing"?
If not, you got it wrong from the start.
The Fed didn't buy it's own debt before 2008 but still managed to seel trillions of dollars. Who was buying it then?
There is still a huge bond market. It's bigger than any stock market. National governments are actually a big purchasers of US debt. Heard of PIMCO?
The question still stands: why are you posting if you aren't interested in the question other than to try to brag about knowledge you don't have? |
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"Here's the short answer for you to try to get into your brain... If the fed isn't buying bonds/debt/securities and somebody else is instead... Where's that money coming from?.
Are shares being sold to pay back QE?
Is that "a thing"?
The question still stands: why are you posting if you aren't interested in the question other than to try to brag about knowledge you don't have?"
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Yes yes you've got it, at last some knowledge has actually entered your brain and yes I like to brag about my own knowledge, I pick it up from other people of course by listening to them unlike yourself.
If you really insist I answer the childish sjw mentality question then my answer would be it's got very little to do with trump (although he did ask the fed not to taper) just like any boom had little to do with Obama the fed is a private entity that does it's own thing, it injected liquidity to create a boom and is now taking liquidity out of the market to dampen the boom. |
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"Here's the short answer for you to try to get into your brain... If the fed isn't buying bonds/debt/securities and somebody else is instead... Where's that money coming from?.
Are shares being sold to pay back QE?
Is that "a thing"?
The question still stands: why are you posting if you aren't interested in the question other than to try to brag about knowledge you don't have?.
Yes yes you've got it, at last some knowledge has actually entered your brain and yes I like to brag about my own knowledge, I pick it up from other people of course by listening to them unlike yourself.
If you really insist I answer the childish sjw mentality question then my answer would be it's got very little to do with trump (although he did ask the fed not to taper) just like any boom had little to do with Obama the fed is a private entity that does it's own thing, it injected liquidity to create a boom and is now taking liquidity out of the market to dampen the boom."
Bless you and your ego
The Fed (in coordination with every other central bank) injected liquidity to minimise the crash, not create a boom. Booms are not a goal usually.
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"Here's the short answer for you to try to get into your brain... If the fed isn't buying bonds/debt/securities and somebody else is instead... Where's that money coming from?.
Are shares being sold to pay back QE?
Is that "a thing"?
The question still stands: why are you posting if you aren't interested in the question other than to try to brag about knowledge you don't have?.
Yes yes you've got it, at last some knowledge has actually entered your brain and yes I like to brag about my own knowledge, I pick it up from other people of course by listening to them unlike yourself.
If you really insist I answer the childish sjw mentality question then my answer would be it's got very little to do with trump (although he did ask the fed not to taper) just like any boom had little to do with Obama the fed is a private entity that does it's own thing, it injected liquidity to create a boom and is now taking liquidity out of the market to dampen the boom.
Bless you and your ego
The Fed (in coordination with every other central bank) injected liquidity to minimise the crash, not create a boom. Booms are not a goal usually.
So are shares being sold to pay back QE? "
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Yes Jesus Christ man, the BOJ and ECB actually purchase shares as part of they're QE and guess what, there tapering as well.
It's monetary policy not rocket science |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
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"Here's the short answer for you to try to get into your brain... If the fed isn't buying bonds/debt/securities and somebody else is instead... Where's that money coming from?.
Are shares being sold to pay back QE?
Is that "a thing"?
The question still stands: why are you posting if you aren't interested in the question other than to try to brag about knowledge you don't have?.
Yes yes you've got it, at last some knowledge has actually entered your brain and yes I like to brag about my own knowledge, I pick it up from other people of course by listening to them unlike yourself.
If you really insist I answer the childish sjw mentality question then my answer would be it's got very little to do with trump (although he did ask the fed not to taper) just like any boom had little to do with Obama the fed is a private entity that does it's own thing, it injected liquidity to create a boom and is now taking liquidity out of the market to dampen the boom.
Bless you and your ego
The Fed (in coordination with every other central bank) injected liquidity to minimise the crash, not create a boom. Booms are not a goal usually.
So are shares being sold to pay back QE? .
Yes Jesus Christ man, the BOJ and ECB actually purchase shares as part of they're QE and guess what, there tapering as well.
It's monetary policy not rocket science "
That isn't the Fed.
Genuinely no idea what point you're trying to make but now you've actually addressed the thread (eventually) have fun |
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"I thought banks tended to buy bonds (govies or banks’) rather than shares..."
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Banks don't really buy anything they create the money for others to buy, the biggest buyers of gov bonds are other govs and pension funds, ie you and me and everybody else.
QE was available to very large firms direct plus others via banks, hedge funds etc and because it was practically free they all used it and personally I think it was always intended to create a share boom because they never actually solved the original problem of bad bank debt this can be seen by the fast disappearing Deutsch bank share price. |
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"I thought banks tended to buy bonds (govies or banks’) rather than shares....
Banks don't really buy anything they create the money for others to buy, the biggest buyers of gov bonds are other govs and pension funds, ie you and me and everybody else.
QE was available to very large firms direct plus others via banks, hedge funds etc and because it was practically free they all used it and personally I think it was always intended to create a share boom because they never actually solved the original problem of bad bank debt this can be seen by the fast disappearing Deutsch bank share price."
A few factoids are dangerous in the wrongs hands it seems
Great bit of erroneous posthoc tinfoil reasoning. |
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"I thought banks tended to buy bonds (govies or banks’) rather than shares....
Banks don't really buy anything they create the money for others to buy, the biggest buyers of gov bonds are other govs and pension funds, ie you and me and everybody else.
QE was available to very large firms direct plus others via banks, hedge funds etc and because it was practically free they all used it and personally I think it was always intended to create a share boom because they never actually solved the original problem of bad bank debt this can be seen by the fast disappearing Deutsch bank share price.
A few factoids are dangerous in the wrongs hands it seems
Great bit of erroneous posthoc tinfoil reasoning. "
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I've also reached that conclusion myself however the fact remains that no right minded half brained Muppet could possibly think that the way out of debt problem is by increasing the debt 5 fold,I mean sure they've moved it around and half hidden it in other places but it's still there and larger than ever.
One has to eventually wrestle with the possiblity that people at the top know more than the people at the bottom and the there actions are born out of that knowledge? |
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"I thought banks tended to buy bonds (govies or banks’) rather than shares....
Banks don't really buy anything they create the money for others to buy, the biggest buyers of gov bonds are other govs and pension funds, ie you and me and everybody else.
QE was available to very large firms direct plus others via banks, hedge funds etc and because it was practically free they all used it and personally I think it was always intended to create a share boom because they never actually solved the original problem of bad bank debt this can be seen by the fast disappearing Deutsch bank share price.
A few factoids are dangerous in the wrongs hands it seems
Great bit of erroneous posthoc tinfoil reasoning. .
I've also reached that conclusion myself however the fact remains that no right minded half brained Muppet could possibly think that the way out of debt problem is by increasing the debt 5 fold,I mean sure they've moved it around and half hidden it in other places but it's still there and larger than ever.
One has to eventually wrestle with the possiblity that people at the top know more than the people at the bottom and the there actions are born out of that knowledge?"
Well clearly most people know next to nothing about this stuff so you're right (in a way).
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"I thought banks tended to buy bonds (govies or banks’) rather than shares....
Banks don't really buy anything they create the money for others to buy, the biggest buyers of gov bonds are other govs and pension funds, ie you and me and everybody else.
QE was available to very large firms direct plus others via banks, hedge funds etc and because it was practically free they all used it and personally I think it was always intended to create a share boom because they never actually solved the original problem of bad bank debt this can be seen by the fast disappearing Deutsch bank share price.
A few factoids are dangerous in the wrongs hands it seems
Great bit of erroneous posthoc tinfoil reasoning. .
I've also reached that conclusion myself however the fact remains that no right minded half brained Muppet could possibly think that the way out of debt problem is by increasing the debt 5 fold,I mean sure they've moved it around and half hidden it in other places but it's still there and larger than ever.
One has to eventually wrestle with the possiblity that people at the top know more than the people at the bottom and the there actions are born out of that knowledge?"
Don’t tell those who don’t like experts this |
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"I thought banks tended to buy bonds (govies or banks’) rather than shares....
Banks don't really buy anything they create the money for others to buy, the biggest buyers of gov bonds are other govs and pension funds, ie you and me and everybody else.
QE was available to very large firms direct plus others via banks, hedge funds etc and because it was practically free they all used it and personally I think it was always intended to create a share boom because they never actually solved the original problem of bad bank debt this can be seen by the fast disappearing Deutsch bank share price.
A few factoids are dangerous in the wrongs hands it seems
Great bit of erroneous posthoc tinfoil reasoning. .
I've also reached that conclusion myself however the fact remains that no right minded half brained Muppet could possibly think that the way out of debt problem is by increasing the debt 5 fold,I mean sure they've moved it around and half hidden it in other places but it's still there and larger than ever.
One has to eventually wrestle with the possiblity that people at the top know more than the people at the bottom and the there actions are born out of that knowledge?
Well clearly most people know next to nothing about this stuff so you're right (in a way).
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They know they've inherited trillions in others debts while at the same time having to suffer for it!.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Trump now says poor economic results are the fault of the media, not him.
A huge conspiracy to deny him a 2nd presidency.
What a feckin' narcissist.
“The Fake News Media is doing everything they can to crash the economy because they think that will be bad for me and my re-election. The problem they have is that the economy is way too strong and we will soon be winning big on Trade, and everyone knows that, including China!”
Hmmmm.
The trade gap with China has widened since Trump decided to declare war on its imports, not reduced.
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"Trump now says poor economic results are the fault of the media, not him.
A huge conspiracy to deny him a 2nd presidency.
What a feckin' narcissist.
“The Fake News Media is doing everything they can to crash the economy because they think that will be bad for me and my re-election. The problem they have is that the economy is way too strong and we will soon be winning big on Trade, and everyone knows that, including China!”
Hmmmm.
The trade gap with China has widened since Trump decided to declare war on its imports, not reduced.
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Well to be fair this is just the latest trick really isn’t it, strange how he was pretty much liked before he ran then the hate started
We first had the Russian thing - well that didn’t work and waisted millions
Then the trumps a racist thing - that didn’t work and has fizzled out
And now it’s a recession thing that will be pushed by the media - when I believe only only 30 something percent of economic experts think this may happen , and if the news push it people will be panicked and this actually could influence this. To be fair this is the best tactic they have used so far.
The Chinese economy isn’t doing well ( plenty online, Forbes, bbc etc ) and this is before the latest tariffs come into play, as well as illegally devaluing there currency. But strangely enough the Chinese are back in talks hmmmm I wonder why |
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"Trump now says poor economic results are the fault of the media, not him.
A huge conspiracy to deny him a 2nd presidency.
What a feckin' narcissist.
“The Fake News Media is doing everything they can to crash the economy because they think that will be bad for me and my re-election. The problem they have is that the economy is way too strong and we will soon be winning big on Trade, and everyone knows that, including China!”
Hmmmm.
The trade gap with China has widened since Trump decided to declare war on its imports, not reduced.
Well to be fair this is just the latest trick really isn’t it, strange how he was pretty much liked before he ran then the hate started
We first had the Russian thing - well that didn’t work and waisted millions
Then the trumps a racist thing - that didn’t work and has fizzled out
And now it’s a recession thing that will be pushed by the media - when I believe only only 30 something percent of economic experts think this may happen , and if the news push it people will be panicked and this actually could influence this. To be fair this is the best tactic they have used so far.
The Chinese economy isn’t doing well ( plenty online, Forbes, bbc etc ) and this is before the latest tariffs come into play, as well as illegally devaluing there currency. But strangely enough the Chinese are back in talks hmmmm I wonder why "
He was liked by some before the election as TV celebrity; to everyone else thought he was a clown. You only had to look at his whole 'birther' crusade against Obama to know he was a nut-job. (actually, not a nut-job but a narcissistic attention-seeker looking to enrich his 'brand')
The Russia thing is absolutely real. I bet you haven't actually read the Mueller report or followed the testimony have you? It's all there.
The racist thing? I don't know if Trump is actually a racist (I suspect he doesn't give two shits either way about anyone but Ivanka and himself), but his base enjoy it and it upsets liberals) so he happily dishes it out.
He’s totally arse-backwards regarding tariffs. The extra cost is being paid for by the poorest Americans (they're the ones who tend to buy the cheap Chinese goods) and he's having to pay billions in subsidies to farmers who lost a huge export market.
The guy is a self-serving ignoramus and the rest of the GOP and his third-rate administration succubi are riding his coat-tails. The moment they think the wind is changing and they can go after him without risking their necks with their voters there will be a red/orange smear on the White House steps they'll drag him out of there so fast. |
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"Trump now says poor economic results are the fault of the media, not him.
A huge conspiracy to deny him a 2nd presidency.
What a feckin' narcissist.
“The Fake News Media is doing everything they can to crash the economy because they think that will be bad for me and my re-election. The problem they have is that the economy is way too strong and we will soon be winning big on Trade, and everyone knows that, including China!”
Hmmmm.
The trade gap with China has widened since Trump decided to declare war on its imports, not reduced.
Well to be fair this is just the latest trick really isn’t it, strange how he was pretty much liked before he ran then the hate started
We first had the Russian thing - well that didn’t work and waisted millions
Then the trumps a racist thing - that didn’t work and has fizzled out
And now it’s a recession thing that will be pushed by the media - when I believe only only 30 something percent of economic experts think this may happen , and if the news push it people will be panicked and this actually could influence this. To be fair this is the best tactic they have used so far.
The Chinese economy isn’t doing well ( plenty online, Forbes, bbc etc ) and this is before the latest tariffs come into play, as well as illegally devaluing there currency. But strangely enough the Chinese are back in talks hmmmm I wonder why
He was liked by some before the election as TV celebrity; to everyone else thought he was a clown. You only had to look at his whole 'birther' crusade against Obama to know he was a nut-job. (actually, not a nut-job but a narcissistic attention-seeker looking to enrich his 'brand')
The Russia thing is absolutely real. I bet you haven't actually read the Mueller report or followed the testimony have you? It's all there.
The racist thing? I don't know if Trump is actually a racist (I suspect he doesn't give two shits either way about anyone but Ivanka and himself), but his base enjoy it and it upsets liberals) so he happily dishes it out.
He’s totally arse-backwards regarding tariffs. The extra cost is being paid for by the poorest Americans (they're the ones who tend to buy the cheap Chinese goods) and he's having to pay billions in subsidies to farmers who lost a huge export market.
The guy is a self-serving ignoramus and the rest of the GOP and his third-rate administration succubi are riding his coat-tails. The moment they think the wind is changing and they can go after him without risking their necks with their voters there will be a red/orange smear on the White House steps they'll drag him out of there so fast. "
You do know there are other places to get your information from apart from CNN yeah ? As well as google having more than page 1
I have read as much of the mueller report as you have and yes watched every part of the testimony, strange how he hasn’t been impeached yet ,, o wait a lot of the dems don’t want to
Your right he dosent give a shit, he thinks if you warrant being attacked the colour, sex or religious beliefs make no difference to him
You do realise he’s playing hard ball with China and anyone who is being hit in the short term he’s subsidising, China are now in trouble and are back talking again, wonder if trump may get a fair result for the US or will it stay that they are currently being walked over as previously set ,,, pretty certain his business mind may slightly eclipse your business mind with no disrespect to you of course |
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