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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

What branch of identity politics was he sniffing I wonder?

I'm going with red pill as a knee jerk guess.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Not a lot you can say that hasn't been said countless times before. It's an American disease.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again..."

Once again I agree with you on this. Their treatment of ex-soldiers is awful.

Seeing as I disagree with you on so much, I thought I’d point out where we are on the same page.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again..."

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. "

Of course they know the effects of war on ex-soldier. But the cold hard truth of it is they don’t give a fuck. The poor people will continue to be sent to fight and die for the oil companies, for the arms companies.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be.

Of course they know the effects of war on ex-soldier. But the cold hard truth of it is they don’t give a fuck. The poor people will continue to be sent to fight and die for the oil companies, for the arms companies. "

Linking it all together...that's why I find things like the poppy campaign so distasteful.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. "

when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up."

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up."

Most humans have empathy. So we can imagine what emotions and feelings other people have, without actually being that other person.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

"

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe."

Respect for what?

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe."

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Matt"

what had trump got to do with this ????..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Respect for what?

"

You need to ask ..really ..

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????.."

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Respect for what?

You need to ask ..really .."

Yes.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-Matt"

F##K UP..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Respect for what?

You need to ask ..really .."

Yes I do...I respect human life and I think in many cases sending the soldiers in the first place (most recent wars were/are pointless) is callous disrespect to them and their familyies knowing well what is likely to happen them.

Of course the army have an important purpose in peace keeping and defense in the true sense.

What exactly is your problem with that view?

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP.."

They got you there Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt "

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Respect for what?

You need to ask ..really ..

Yes I do...I respect human life and I think in many cases sending the soldiers in the first place (most recent wars were/are pointless) is callous disrespect to them and their familyies knowing well what is likely to happen them.

Of course the army have an important purpose in peace keeping and defense in the true sense.

What exactly is your problem with that view? "

The typical civi response of how fucked up veterans can be ( your words )..most former service personnel leave move on to lead the rest of their life's just like you or anyone else and iv news for you every soldier will tell you regardless of the flag on their shoulder...it's not done for country it's done for the man left or right of you so you don't let each other down so that you all get home safe..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

If you didn't go in the first place...you'd keep the man left or right safer still.

I said "can be".

You are just trying to make a simple "civi" discussion a personal thing to get angry about.

Relax eh?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-Matt"

Their mo ...this isn't about trump it's about a shooting but YOU took politics into it MATT when it's not about politics so like i said F##K UP or report my hurtful comment to admin

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you didn't go in the first place...you'd keep the man left or right safer still.

I said "can be".

You are just trying to make a simple "civi" discussion a personal thing to get angry about.

Relax eh?"

like I pointed out...your a civi so not surprised my reply went over your head or that your reply was what it was .

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-MattTheir mo ...this isn't about trump it's about a shooting but YOU took politics into it MATT when it's not about politics so like i said F##K UP or report my hurtful comment to admin "

No, I know it is not about Trump. I never claimed it was.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"it's not done for country it's done for the man left or right of you so you don't let each other down so that you all get home safe.."

Look to be honest if you don't even have a good reason why you are going out to potentially kill foreign people that says it all.

I made a comment before about soldiers being highly "trained" that seemed to upset you and that's what I meant.

I hate the idea of people doing things just because their superiors said so....they wrap it all up in a blanket of pride and bravery as motivation but there has to be a real reason behind one's actions.

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"If you didn't go in the first place...you'd keep the man left or right safer still.

I said "can be".

You are just trying to make a simple "civi" discussion a personal thing to get angry about.

Relax eh?like I pointed out...your a civi so not surprised my reply went over your head or that your reply was what it was ."

Ok, so explain this then. If ex service personal can’t ever be fucked up (what you are claiming by saying that the fact some of them can be is false) why were the govt on the radio the other day talking about what help the Veterens Gateway will be? Why are you seemingly so against empathy and support for ex service personnel?

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-MattTheir mo ...this isn't about trump it's about a shooting but YOU took politics into it MATT when it's not about politics so like i said F##K UP or report my hurtful comment to admin

No, I know it is not about Trump. I never claimed it was.

-Matt"

...."Trump-logic" ring any bells....

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-MattTheir mo ...this isn't about trump it's about a shooting but YOU took politics into it MATT when it's not about politics so like i said F##K UP or report my hurtful comment to admin

No, I know it is not about Trump. I never claimed it was.

-Matt...."Trump-logic" ring any bells...."

Nope.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you didn't go in the first place...you'd keep the man left or right safer still.

I said "can be".

You are just trying to make a simple "civi" discussion a personal thing to get angry about.

Relax eh?like I pointed out...your a civi so not surprised my reply went over your head or that your reply was what it was .

Ok, so explain this then. If ex service personal can’t ever be fucked up (what you are claiming by saying that the fact some of them can be is false) why were the govt on the radio the other day talking about what help the Veterens Gateway will be? Why are you seemingly so against empathy and support for ex service personnel?

-Matt"

Show where i said any of that.....or how about stop twisting the comment...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

You've been twisting it all along Mullingar couple....I used "fucked up" in place of "suffering from PTSD" and you've since blown a gasket when you knew exactly what I meant.

For a right wing kind of guy you get offended far too easily...that's the job of the snowflakes on the left

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-MattTheir mo ...this isn't about trump it's about a shooting but YOU took politics into it MATT when it's not about politics so like i said F##K UP or report my hurtful comment to admin

No, I know it is not about Trump. I never claimed it was.

-Matt...."Trump-logic" ring any bells....

Nope.

-Matt"

No...????...it should it was a comment you made...MATT

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He's gone full snowflake.Theres no turning back now...

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-MattTheir mo ...this isn't about trump it's about a shooting but YOU took politics into it MATT when it's not about politics so like i said F##K UP or report my hurtful comment to admin

No, I know it is not about Trump. I never claimed it was.

-Matt...."Trump-logic" ring any bells....

Nope.

-MattNo...????...it should it was a comment you made...MATT"

No it wasn’t.

Maybe you are referring to me commenting that you post was “some serious post-Trump logic” perhaps?

I tried to point out to you that Victoria has nothing to do with when you refer to a time period as ‘Victorian’ other than a marker of a time period. Just in that logic and argument has taken a very strange turn since the time of Trump. But I guess you were too busy being angry and offended to understand the point.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You've been twisting it all along Mullingar couple....I used "fucked up" in place of "suffering from PTSD" and you've since blown a gasket when you knew exactly what I meant.

For a right wing kind of guy you get offended far too easily...that's the job of the snowflakes on the left

"

eh sorry SUPERFLASH....i haven't done a mind reading course so no i didn't know what you Ment,must be great to have that super power..do you have it ?????....suffering from PTSD would have been far more respectful to other vets/former service members then fucked up that was my point..as for what side of the fence i sit...i can say that's F##K all of your business...so maybe leave the politics out of something so serious..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-MattTheir mo ...this isn't about trump it's about a shooting but YOU took politics into it MATT when it's not about politics so like i said F##K UP or report my hurtful comment to admin

No, I know it is not about Trump. I never claimed it was.

-Matt...."Trump-logic" ring any bells....

Nope.

-MattNo...????...it should it was a comment you made...MATT

No it wasn’t.

Maybe you are referring to me commenting that you post was “some serious post-Trump logic” perhaps?

I tried to point out to you that Victoria has nothing to do with when you refer to a time period as ‘Victorian’ other than a marker of a time period. Just in that logic and argument has taken a very strange turn since the time of Trump. But I guess you were too busy being angry and offended to understand the point.

-Matt"

offended eh no....bringing politics into something that doesn't require politics in it again no need ..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You've been twisting it all along Mullingar couple....I used "fucked up" in place of "suffering from PTSD" and you've since blown a gasket when you knew exactly what I meant.

For a right wing kind of guy you get offended far too easily...that's the job of the snowflakes on the left

eh sorry SUPERFLASH....i haven't done a mind reading course so no i didn't know what you Ment,must be great to have that super power..do you have it ?????....suffering from PTSD would have been far more respectful to other vets/former service members then fucked up that was my point..as for what side of the fence i sit...i can say that's F##K all of your business...so maybe leave the politics out of something so serious.."

Mind reading...give me a break... reading between the lines isn't a super power. You are going out of your way to get annoyed about a few words. Sticks and stones and all that.

Are you honestly telling me that some vets aren't "fucked up"?

Remember the topic of discussion...a man gunning down young people in a nightclub for no good reason.

Did he have his "shit together"?

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"It seems that he was an ex soldier who had been identified as having PTSD. Nothing was done to help him, or to monitor his illness, and he flipped.

I’m not making excuses, it was dreadful what he did. But as in this country, ex servicemen are just left to rot after they have left the armed forces in the US.

Such a shame it’s come to this again...

Or to think further, they shouldn't be sent in the first place.

They must have extensive research on how fucked up vets can be. when you've wore the uniform then you can call former sevice or current service personnel fucked up.

Jaysus give it a rest.

It's not like PTSD is a new thing....I don't need direct experience to know what it is.

No people like you wouldn't have direct experience because you'd shite yourself if you had to wear the uniform...setting this dipshit from California aside show a bit of F##KING respect maybe.

Some serious post-Trump logic there. But I think you have given a bit more background to your outbursts on here now.

-Mattwhat had trump got to do with this ????..

Never mind. Next you will be asking what Victoria had to do with the Victorian times.

-MattF##K UP..

They got you there Matt

I guess so. I don’t even really know what they mean. Their MO is just random angry outbursts. Oh well.

-MattTheir mo ...this isn't about trump it's about a shooting but YOU took politics into it MATT when it's not about politics so like i said F##K UP or report my hurtful comment to admin

No, I know it is not about Trump. I never claimed it was.

-Matt...."Trump-logic" ring any bells....

Nope.

-MattNo...????...it should it was a comment you made...MATT

No it wasn’t.

Maybe you are referring to me commenting that you post was “some serious post-Trump logic” perhaps?

I tried to point out to you that Victoria has nothing to do with when you refer to a time period as ‘Victorian’ other than a marker of a time period. Just in that logic and argument has taken a very strange turn since the time of Trump. But I guess you were too busy being angry and offended to understand the point.

-Mattoffended eh no....bringing politics into something that doesn't require politics in it again no need .."

*sigh*

If you take a moment to actually read what I wrote between your angry outbursts you will see I haven’t brought politics into it. And have explained that to you twice.

But feel free to carry on being angry and offended.

-Matt

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By *lbert_shlossedMan  over a year ago

Manchester

These mass shooting nut cases seem to have a beef with country and Western festivals!.

Maybe it's time to ban country and Western

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I'll add that you are in the politics forum and I've seen your posts of other topics...it's not like I'm prying in your personal business.

You come here and tell us your political leanings and of course I'll factor that in the discussion.

You are being oversensitive to the smallest thing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum...

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"I'll add that you are in the politics forum and I've seen your posts of other topics...it's not like I'm prying in your personal business.

You come here and tell us your political leanings and of course I'll factor that in the discussion.

You are being oversensitive to the smallest thing. "

factor them into the discussion if it's a political one..this one isn't,as far as I'm concerned...

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"I'll add that you are in the politics forum and I've seen your posts of other topics...it's not like I'm prying in your personal business.

You come here and tell us your political leanings and of course I'll factor that in the discussion.

You are being oversensitive to the smallest thing. "

Steady on. If you click on their profile link. You know, to see their profile. On a swinging site. He will accuse you of prying into their personal business.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum... "

Good point!

Snog, Marry, or treat for PTSD, the person above?

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'll add that you are in the politics forum and I've seen your posts of other topics...it's not like I'm prying in your personal business.

You come here and tell us your political leanings and of course I'll factor that in the discussion.

You are being oversensitive to the smallest thing.

Steady on. If you click on their profile link. You know, to see their profile. On a swinging site. He will accuse you of prying into their personal business.

-Matt"

dont flatter yourself MATT....i didn't bother my arse to look at your profile only to hit the top right button to block you....same can't be said of you though eh..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I'll add that you are in the politics forum and I've seen your posts of other topics...it's not like I'm prying in your personal business.

You come here and tell us your political leanings and of course I'll factor that in the discussion.

You are being oversensitive to the smallest thing. factor them into the discussion if it's a political one..this one isn't,as far as I'm concerned..."

What about the politics of gun control and warfare....directly relevant.

There are often identity political motives behind these things...hating women, hating certain ethnic groups etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum...

Good point!

Snog, Marry, or treat for PTSD, the person above?

-Matt"

Good man MATT..be a C##T about something so serious ...slow clap...

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"I'll add that you are in the politics forum and I've seen your posts of other topics...it's not like I'm prying in your personal business.

You come here and tell us your political leanings and of course I'll factor that in the discussion.

You are being oversensitive to the smallest thing.

Steady on. If you click on their profile link. You know, to see their profile. On a swinging site. He will accuse you of prying into their personal business.

-Mattdont flatter yourself MATT....i didn't bother my arse to look at your profile only to hit the top right button to block you....same can't be said of you though eh.."

Flatter myself?! All I did was click on your profile. That you publish. On a swingers site. And you accused me of ‘prying into your personal business’.

You’ve seriously lost the plot.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum...

Good point!

Snog, Marry, or treat for PTSD, the person above?

-MattGood man MATT..be a C##T about something so serious ...slow clap... "

I know it is serious. I have two family members that have been diagnosed with it and live with it on a daily basis.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'll add that you are in the politics forum and I've seen your posts of other topics...it's not like I'm prying in your personal business.

You come here and tell us your political leanings and of course I'll factor that in the discussion.

You are being oversensitive to the smallest thing.

Steady on. If you click on their profile link. You know, to see their profile. On a swinging site. He will accuse you of prying into their personal business.

-Mattdont flatter yourself MATT....i didn't bother my arse to look at your profile only to hit the top right button to block you....same can't be said of you though eh..

Flatter myself?! All I did was click on your profile. That you publish. On a swingers site. And you accused me of ‘prying into your personal business’.

You’ve seriously lost the plot.

-Matt"

Personnel business

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"I'll add that you are in the politics forum and I've seen your posts of other topics...it's not like I'm prying in your personal business.

You come here and tell us your political leanings and of course I'll factor that in the discussion.

You are being oversensitive to the smallest thing.

Steady on. If you click on their profile link. You know, to see their profile. On a swinging site. He will accuse you of prying into their personal business.

-Mattdont flatter yourself MATT....i didn't bother my arse to look at your profile only to hit the top right button to block you....same can't be said of you though eh..

Flatter myself?! All I did was click on your profile. That you publish. On a swingers site. And you accused me of ‘prying into your personal business’.

You’ve seriously lost the plot.

-MattPersonnel business "

What?

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum...

Good point!

Snog, Marry, or treat for PTSD, the person above?

-MattGood man MATT..be a C##T about something so serious ...slow clap...

I know it is serious. I have two family members that have been diagnosed with it and live with it on a daily basis.

-Matt"

Snog ..Marry or treat for PTSD...bit of a flippant comment then MATT,if that's the case...i rather have some one say i was diagnosed with PTSD then label me as fucked up..that was my point...it does a disservice to those suffering with the disorder

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum...

Good point!

Snog, Marry, or treat for PTSD, the person above?

-MattGood man MATT..be a C##T about something so serious ...slow clap...

I know it is serious. I have two family members that have been diagnosed with it and live with it on a daily basis.

-MattSnog ..Marry or treat for PTSD...bit of a flippant comment then MATT,if that's the case...i rather have some one say i was diagnosed with PTSD then label me as fucked up..that was my point...it does a disservice to those suffering with the disorder "

In hindsight was saying that they were ‘fucked up’ a bit of a bad choice of words? Perhaps? But considering as stated this was someone who went on a rampage and shot up a bar for no apparent reason, I think it is a reasonable description.

Does it make me think twice that I am having a discussion about an ex service person randomly shooting up a bar with an extremely angry ex service person that poses on a swinging site with a firearm? Yes it does.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum...

Good point!

Snog, Marry, or treat for PTSD, the person above?

-MattGood man MATT..be a C##T about something so serious ...slow clap...

I know it is serious. I have two family members that have been diagnosed with it and live with it on a daily basis.

-MattSnog ..Marry or treat for PTSD...bit of a flippant comment then MATT,if that's the case...i rather have some one say i was diagnosed with PTSD then label me as fucked up..that was my point...it does a disservice to those suffering with the disorder

In hindsight was saying that they were ‘fucked up’ a bit of a bad choice of words? Perhaps? But considering as stated this was someone who went on a rampage and shot up a bar for no apparent reason, I think it is a reasonable description.

Does it make me think twice that I am having a discussion about an ex service person randomly shooting up a bar with an extremely angry ex service person that poses on a swinging site with a firearm? Yes it does.

-Matt"

Guess it's a good job we don't care what either of us think about each other then doesn't it.....but your two family members who iv never Meet do have my respect...

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum...

Good point!

Snog, Marry, or treat for PTSD, the person above?

-MattGood man MATT..be a C##T about something so serious ...slow clap...

I know it is serious. I have two family members that have been diagnosed with it and live with it on a daily basis.

-MattSnog ..Marry or treat for PTSD...bit of a flippant comment then MATT,if that's the case...i rather have some one say i was diagnosed with PTSD then label me as fucked up..that was my point...it does a disservice to those suffering with the disorder

In hindsight was saying that they were ‘fucked up’ a bit of a bad choice of words? Perhaps? But considering as stated this was someone who went on a rampage and shot up a bar for no apparent reason, I think it is a reasonable description.

Does it make me think twice that I am having a discussion about an ex service person randomly shooting up a bar with an extremely angry ex service person that poses on a swinging site with a firearm? Yes it does.

-MattGuess it's a good job we don't care what either of us think about each other then doesn't it.....but your two family members who iv never Meet do have my respect..."

Thank you. That said, I know they would have very little respect for you it they read your posts on here.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Mullingar couple I presume that you are in favour of free speech?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let's not bring politics into a discussion in the politics forum...

Good point!

Snog, Marry, or treat for PTSD, the person above?

-MattGood man MATT..be a C##T about something so serious ...slow clap...

I know it is serious. I have two family members that have been diagnosed with it and live with it on a daily basis.

-MattSnog ..Marry or treat for PTSD...bit of a flippant comment then MATT,if that's the case...i rather have some one say i was diagnosed with PTSD then label me as fucked up..that was my point...it does a disservice to those suffering with the disorder

In hindsight was saying that they were ‘fucked up’ a bit of a bad choice of words? Perhaps? But considering as stated this was someone who went on a rampage and shot up a bar for no apparent reason, I think it is a reasonable description.

Does it make me think twice that I am having a discussion about an ex service person randomly shooting up a bar with an extremely angry ex service person that poses on a swinging site with a firearm? Yes it does.

-MattGuess it's a good job we don't care what either of us think about each other then doesn't it.....but your two family members who iv never Meet do have my respect...

Thank you. That said, I know they would have very little respect for you it they read your posts on here.

-Matt"

Let them..

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