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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replyes, there will be a march in london calling for a peoples vote today, it is said to be the largest anti brexit demonstration ever seen, whats your view? I agree there should be one as you woulnt buy a house without a second opinion, also there wasnt a contingency plan." Sick of the winners & losers argument, if we leave it looks like we all lose. | |||
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"Apparently 600,000 turned up to this march. Ironic that this is the same size as the mandate for brexit " There were 1.2million extra votes for leave are you trying to say that 600000 of these voters have changed their minds and joined the march or do you think they voted remain all along!No dodgy figures please like you have used previously!  | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] " It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. | |||
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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replyes, there will be a march in london calling for a peoples vote today, it is said to be the largest anti brexit demonstration ever seen, whats your view? I agree there should be one as you woulnt buy a house without a second opinion, also there wasnt a contingency plan. Sick of the winners & losers argument, if we leave it looks like we all lose." This. The “You lost deal with it” comment makes no sense. What have remainers lost that leavers gained? We are all affected by this. | |||
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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replyes, there will be a march in london calling for a peoples vote today, it is said to be the largest anti brexit demonstration ever seen, whats your view? I agree there should be one as you woulnt buy a house without a second opinion, also there wasnt a contingency plan. Sick of the winners & losers argument, if we leave it looks like we all lose. This. The “You lost deal with it” comment makes no sense. What have remainers lost that leavers gained? We are all affected by this. " That is right. I feel sorry for northern ireland which looks like it will be a hard border, the brexiters dont respect the good friday agreement. | |||
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"So just how many have turned up then ?" 600,000 | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave." We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit | |||
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"Apparently 600,000 turned up to this march. Ironic that this is the same size as the mandate for brexit There were 1.2million extra votes for leave are you trying to say that 600000 of these voters have changed their minds and joined the march or do you think they voted remain all along!No dodgy figures please like you have used previously! "We're pursuing brexit because 600,000 people voted to leave rather than remain. Had they voted to remain the vote would've been a draw. Just ironic that one set of 600,000 people are defining the agenda for the whole of the UK whilst another set of 600,000 protest against it. I'm not making any bigger point than it simply being ironic  | |||
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" We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit "I fail to see how that is correct given that the ones negoiating, the government didn’t (and still don’t) have a bloody clue what will be the final offer, how it will affect us after we leave, what the long term effects will be? Unless of course you are privy to information nobody else is? | |||
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"What was the vote? Leave or remain! What was the result? Leave won! What is the problem?" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Lol | |||
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"Apparently 600,000 turned up to this march. Ironic that this is the same size as the mandate for brexit There were 1.2million extra votes for leave are you trying to say that 600000 of these voters have changed their minds and joined the march or do you think they voted remain all along!No dodgy figures please like you have used previously!
We're pursuing brexit because 600,000 people voted to leave rather than remain. Had they voted to remain the vote would've been a draw.
Just ironic that one set of 600,000 people are defining the agenda for the whole of the UK whilst another set of 600,000 protest against it. I'm not making any bigger point than it simply being ironic "If you look at the march and think "that's not very big" that's also the size of the mandate for brexit. Quite ironic that we've got such a visual on quite what 0.97% of the UK population looks like | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit "What a complete load of tosh! We were not all well informed we were all badly informed and lied to by both sides  | |||
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"Apparently 600,000 turned up to this march. Ironic that this is the same size as the mandate for brexit There were 1.2million extra votes for leave are you trying to say that 600000 of these voters have changed their minds and joined the march or do you think they voted remain all along!No dodgy figures please like you have used previously!
We're pursuing brexit because 600,000 people voted to leave rather than remain. Had they voted to remain the vote would've been a draw.
If I had got 6 numbers on the lottery, I would be a millionaire but I didn't just like the 600000 people didn't vote for remain!
Just ironic that one set of 600,000 people are defining the agenda for the whole of the UK whilst another set of 600,000 protest against it. I'm not making any bigger point than it simply being ironic " | |||
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"And the crowd are chanting..no nations...no borders and no deportations...Would you vote for that.?" In an ideal world that would be nice but you only have to see the issues they have had in Germany opening the gates to all as they did to see it brings a lot of problems. | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! " Black Country rules, soldarity!! | |||
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"More people will vote on the X Factor this weekend, just to put it in proportion of what the general public care about. Brexit isn't even remotely near top of the list." Yep, borne out by this being the third thread opened today on it | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
What a complete load of tosh! We were not all well informed we were all badly informed and lied to by both sides "Ok | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
What a complete load of tosh! We were not all well informed we were all badly informed and lied to by both sides
Ok "So you always wanted: A hard border with the ROI To deal with Europe (and everyone else) on WTO terms? Because on both sides there were politicians saying that wouldn't happen (and politicians who said it would). | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!! "Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!!
Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! "But still Black Country | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!!
Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! :-
But still Black Country "Indeed, as in Peaky Blinders the blackcountry boys stick together! | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!!
Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! :-
But still Black Country
Indeed, as in Peaky Blinders the blackcountry boys stick together! "By Order of...... | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!!
Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! :-
But still Black Country
Indeed, as in Peaky Blinders the blackcountry boys stick together!
By Order of...... "Aynuk and Ayli! | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!!
Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! :-
But still Black Country
Indeed, as in Peaky Blinders the blackcountry boys stick together!
By Order of......
Aynuk and Ayli! "Now yowm tekkin the pi*s bay yer | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!!
Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! :-
But still Black Country
Indeed, as in Peaky Blinders the blackcountry boys stick together!
By Order of......
Aynuk and Ayli!
Now yowm tekkin the pi*s bay yer "Proper blackcountry boys, no brummies round here! | |||
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"You know my lottery results didn't come in, so I want a second go, someone else already won, but since mine is not the winning numbers. they should give it another go as i didnt win. " You’re welcome to play the lottery every week, over and over again. This analogy doesn’t work. | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!!
Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! :-
But still Black Country
Indeed, as in Peaky Blinders the blackcountry boys stick together!
By Order of......
Aynuk and Ayli!
Now yowm tekkin the pi*s bay yer
Proper blackcountry boys, no brummies round here! "Born & bred | |||
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"I thought it was a demonstration for a pre leave vote, a vote on the terms, not a vote for another referendum?" There seems to be a lot of confusion and differences of opinion over what another referendum would include. I’m guessing most protesters want a “remain” option. | |||
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" Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Black Country rules, soldarity!!
Blackcountry Rules but we are on different sides for this debate! :-
But still Black Country
Indeed, as in Peaky Blinders the blackcountry boys stick together!
By Order of......
Aynuk and Ayli!
Now yowm tekkin the pi*s bay yer
Proper blackcountry boys, no brummies round here!
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"I thought it was a demonstration for a pre leave vote, a vote on the terms, not a vote for another referendum? There seems to be a lot of confusion and differences of opinion over what another referendum would include. I’m guessing most protesters want a “remain” option. " I think that's rather naive i think the most we can hope for is leave with May's deal, or leave with no deal. | |||
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"I thought it was a demonstration for a pre leave vote, a vote on the terms, not a vote for another referendum? There seems to be a lot of confusion and differences of opinion over what another referendum would include. I’m guessing most protesters want a “remain” option. I think that's rather naive i think the most we can hope for is leave with May's deal, or leave with no deal. " I think you’re probably right. I have been much less enthusiastic about another referendum than other remainers for several reasons. One of them being that there is no clear idea of what the questions of the ref would be. | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. " Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay." If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!  | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME! "Bet you can't ! | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME! "Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war. The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day. Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair. | |||
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"Although I'm a remainer, I'm a believer in democracy. So by that I should be behind brexit right? And I would if the mandate was any bigger. The reason I want another referendum isn't because I want remain to win (although it would be nice if it won by a sizable enough margin to put this to bed). It's because I believe we're genuinely heading towards an impasse that only another referendum or two will get us out of... even if the result is that we leave " I don't think brexiteers have fully realised that even for brexit to occur it'll likely need a further round of referendums. Without that there simply may be insufficient will in parliament to actually implement it | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair."I don't remember there being a referendum on the poll tax or the Iraq war so not a good comparison really. A larger proportion of voters wanted to leave even if there are 600000 people on a march! | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair."It wasn't the poll tax march that got the poll tax scrapped. It was myself and thousands of others who refused to pay and went to court, that got it stopped. There was a Leave march in yorkshire today, only 1200 people attended. Because its an unpopular view? No, because there isn't a need for one, and the vast majority of this country have never attended a demo and never will. Demonstrations like these are not indicative of the general public. To say they are is either naive or a blatant lie. | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
I don't remember there being a referendum on the poll tax or the Iraq war so not a good comparison really. A larger proportion of voters wanted to leave even if there are 600000 people on a march! "So how big would you like the march to be for you to take notice? Not everyone who wanted to remain AND want a second referendum are able to get to London today. | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
I don't remember there being a referendum on the poll tax or the Iraq war so not a good comparison really. A larger proportion of voters wanted to leave even if there are 600000 people on a march!
So how big would you like the march to be for you to take notice? Not everyone who wanted to remain AND want a second referendum are able to get to London today."17.2million and then we will know there are more remainers than leavers! | |||
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I for one voted remain and would do so again but am perfectly comfortable to accept the result of the last one and just wish we'd not bothered with the last 2 1/2 years pantomine. The benefits will quickly happen. GDP will go to zero or less, but wont be quite such a bad thing as population growth will slow as less people will want to come here and we'll get a good ole dose of inflation. At least interest rates will rise so saving temporarily will get a boost.
Travel will get a bit more bureaucratic and I imagine I wont be able to afford to go abroad next year. Never mind eh, let's hope global cooling due to no sun spots is a myth and we get another nice summer | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair."Pro hunting march was just as big and they didn’t win!! as as a result labour lost the election | |||
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"Although I'm a remainer, I'm a believer in democracy. So by that I should be behind brexit right? And I would if the mandate was any bigger. The reason I want another referendum isn't because I want remain to win (although it would be nice if it won by a sizable enough margin to put this to bed). It's because I believe we're genuinely heading towards an impasse that only another referendum or two will get us out of... even if the result is that we leave I don't think brexiteers have fully realised that even for brexit to occur it'll likely need a further round of referendums. Without that there simply may be insufficient will in parliament to actually implement it " Talking sense as always. And the result of this one referendum will result in the likely collapse of a genuinely democratic, lawful and informed referendum held in NI for the Good Friday Agreement. In that referendum every household got a full copy of the agreement so they could see what they were voting on. Surely it's only right we get the same chance with this one? | |||
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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replyes, there will be a march in london calling for a peoples vote today, it is said to be the largest anti brexit demonstration ever seen, whats your view? I agree there should be one as you woulnt buy a house without a second opinion, also there wasnt a contingency plan. Sick of the winners & losers argument, if we leave it looks like we all lose." When. | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. " I disagree. I think many of the original brexiteers would vote differently due to the government's incompetence in negotiations. | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
What a complete load of tosh! We were not all well informed we were all badly informed and lied to by both sides "It's the job of politicians to lie convincingly  | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair."The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well. 17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice. | |||
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"the losers march ...the i cant accept the result march..get over it move on ..." A pretty pathetic sight it was really, brain dead, mouth breathing zombies shuffling through the streets of London, it was like an episode of the Walking dead. | |||
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"60,000 from a total of over 60,000,000, that is about 1000th of the population. With all the money, the facilitation, the scaremongering, and the fact that these no marks were remoaners before the referendum and always will be. I hope the govt gives this as much attention as it deserves, none. A larger portion of the population had to work today, and many of us still support BREXIT and always will. Still your little protest up your arse remoaners!!" I'm a Brexiteer, however support the right to protest about something you believe in. | |||
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"said they expected 100k ....i was at footy today in london seen more people at a gooners match lol" There were 600,000 people | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit "You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen What are tonight's lottery numbers? | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen
What are tonight's lottery numbers?"As Ricky Gervais would say 'That's the problem when you let the average person vote. People didn't realise how fucking stupid the average person is. Let's take the labels off bleach then have another referendum' | |||
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"said they expected 100k ....i was at footy today in london seen more people at a gooners match lol" The numbers on the march would have filled the Emirates 10 times over | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen
What are tonight's lottery numbers? As Ricky Gervais would say 'That's the problem when you let the average person vote. People didn't realise how fucking stupid the average person is. Let's take the labels off bleach then have another referendum'"Why don't you ask the 600000 people on the march how stupid they are surely some of them must be average or was it just for the elite!? | |||
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"I cannot see the remain side wanting another referendum if the vote had gone the other way, despite the EU being an evolving entity with evolving rules and evolving membership. The UK and the EU have always been strange and strained bedfellows. We did not last long in the ERM, we did not join the Euro, we did not sign up to Schengen, we still maintain border controls and passport checks of sorts, we maintained some vetoes and received extraordinary rebates against a small proportion of the payments we mafe to them. Perhaps the answer is that after a decent pause, once we leave, we have another referendum on whether we want to rejoin......although Iam not sure anyone will have the taste for it. " If they let us. After all, France was never keen on us joining anyway. | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen
What are tonight's lottery numbers? As Ricky Gervais would say 'That's the problem when you let the average person vote. People didn't realise how fucking stupid the average person is. Let's take the labels off bleach then have another referendum'
Why don't you ask the 600000 people on the march how stupid they are surely some of them must be average or was it just for the elite!? "Don't need to they voted Remain obviously | |||
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"said they expected 100k ....i was at footy today in london seen more people at a gooners match lol The numbers on the march would have filled the Emirates 10 times over" The 17.2million who voted leave would fill it 283 times so its just small fry! | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen
What are tonight's lottery numbers? As Ricky Gervais would say 'That's the problem when you let the average person vote. People didn't realise how fucking stupid the average person is. Let's take the labels off bleach then have another referendum'"I'm so glad I have a high IQ | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen
What are tonight's lottery numbers? As Ricky Gervais would say 'That's the problem when you let the average person vote. People didn't realise how fucking stupid the average person is. Let's take the labels off bleach then have another referendum'
Why don't you ask the 600000 people on the march how stupid they are surely some of them must be average or was it just for the elite!? Don't need to they voted Remain obviously "That wasn't even an average answer! Lol | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen
What are tonight's lottery numbers?"I never claimed to know this ‘shit storm’ would happen.......... #readmycomment | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen
What are tonight's lottery numbers? As Ricky Gervais would say 'That's the problem when you let the average person vote. People didn't realise how fucking stupid the average person is. Let's take the labels off bleach then have another referendum'"Wow insulting people! | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well.
17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice. "17.2 m people on march is practically impossible. There is simply no infrastracture to maintain such a large number of people in one place at the same time. Also people vote across whole UK and that includes leave votes not only on British Isles. | |||
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"What was the vote? Leave or remain! What was the result? Leave won! What is the problem? Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Lol "No. But I’m sure the leave voters will come to terms with that eventually. -Matt | |||
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"Don't see the problem. Just have another vote when we know what the deal will look like. If leave win again, 2-0, can be no arguments then. Everyone will have to get behind it. If, after viewing the deal, many change their mind. It'll be remain after an informed choice, again removing arguments. People have seen what was on offer and voted against it. Who am I kidding, they'll still be mass debaters everywhere. " Mass debaters  like on Fab | |||
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"If they do another referendum and it is still the same outcome will all the remoaners expect another referendum? I suspect the remoaners will until they get the outcome they want] It’s about making an informed choice this time, with the benefit of having the hard facts that make up the final deal, which was sadly lacking in the original vote. It’s not about sour grapes or anything, it’s about what future are we looking at once we leave. We’re all well informed and always have been! #getoverit
You should be in No 10 since you appear to have been so clued up that you knew this shit storm would happen
What are tonight's lottery numbers?
I never claimed to know this ‘shit storm’ would happen..........
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well.
17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice.
17.2 m people on march is practically impossible. There is simply no infrastracture to maintain such a large number of people in one place at the same time. Also people vote across whole UK and that includes leave votes not only on British Isles. "There are approximately 66million people in the Uk going about their daily business so it shouldn't be a problem to have a day of organised protests which could draw 17.2million. They don't have to all be in the same place just all out on the same day like the people who voted out in the referendum! | |||
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"What was the vote? Leave or remain! What was the result? Leave won! What is the problem? Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Lol
No. But I’m sure the leave voters will come to terms with that eventually.
-Matt"Matt I would say it was people like you who didn't get the result they wanted from the referendum, you were probably crying as reality dawned on you! You still haven't come to terms with it now, you can't except that a majority of voters wanted to leave the Eu. It's the implementation of the result that as not been so good due to poor leadership and a genuine lack of desire to follow through with the result! | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well.
17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice.
17.2 m people on march is practically impossible. There is simply no infrastracture to maintain such a large number of people in one place at the same time. Also people vote across whole UK and that includes leave votes not only on British Isles.
There are approximately 66million people in the Uk going about their daily business so it shouldn't be a problem to have a day of organised protests which could draw 17.2million. They don't have to all be in the same place just all out on the same day like the people who voted out in the referendum! "A march is not the same as a vote, so you cannot expect to amass same number of people | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well.
17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice.
17.2 m people on march is practically impossible. There is simply no infrastracture to maintain such a large number of people in one place at the same time. Also people vote across whole UK and that includes leave votes not only on British Isles.
There are approximately 66million people in the Uk going about their daily business so it shouldn't be a problem to have a day of organised protests which could draw 17.2million. They don't have to all be in the same place just all out on the same day like the people who voted out in the referendum!
A march is not the same as a vote, so you cannot expect to amass same number of people "If people's feelings/fears are that strong they would be out, 600000 people on a march is not a mandate for another vote whatever you might think! | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well.
17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice.
17.2 m people on march is practically impossible. There is simply no infrastracture to maintain such a large number of people in one place at the same time. Also people vote across whole UK and that includes leave votes not only on British Isles.
There are approximately 66million people in the Uk going about their daily business so it shouldn't be a problem to have a day of organised protests which could draw 17.2million. They don't have to all be in the same place just all out on the same day like the people who voted out in the referendum!
A march is not the same as a vote, so you cannot expect to amass same number of people
If people's feelings/fears are that strong they would be out, 600000 people on a march is not a mandate for another vote whatever you might think!"I'd love to have been there. Unfortunately finances meant I wasn't able to. I bet plenty more had to work and already had other plans. 600,000 people for a march is good. Much better than the alternate one held North | |||
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"the losers march ...the i cant accept the result march..get over it move on ... A pretty pathetic sight it was really, brain dead, mouth breathing zombies shuffling through the streets of London, it was like an episode of the Walking dead. " Ha! You want a Walking Dead comparison you should have seen the Sky News coverage of the Harrogate Pro-Brexit event. There were about hundred people in shot all gathered around Farage. All easily over 60. All white guys. Compare that to the London march which was made up of a vast crowd of vibrant people made up from all walks of life. I wish I could have joined them! | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well.
17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice.
17.2 m people on march is practically impossible. There is simply no infrastracture to maintain such a large number of people in one place at the same time. Also people vote across whole UK and that includes leave votes not only on British Isles.
There are approximately 66million people in the Uk going about their daily business so it shouldn't be a problem to have a day of organised protests which could draw 17.2million. They don't have to all be in the same place just all out on the same day like the people who voted out in the referendum!
A march is not the same as a vote, so you cannot expect to amass same number of people
If people's feelings/fears are that strong they would be out, 600000 people on a march is not a mandate for another vote whatever you might think!
I'd love to have been there. Unfortunately finances meant I wasn't able to. I bet plenty more had to work and already had other plans.
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well.
17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice.
17.2 m people on march is practically impossible. There is simply no infrastracture to maintain such a large number of people in one place at the same time. Also people vote across whole UK and that includes leave votes not only on British Isles.
There are approximately 66million people in the Uk going about their daily business so it shouldn't be a problem to have a day of organised protests which could draw 17.2million. They don't have to all be in the same place just all out on the same day like the people who voted out in the referendum!
A march is not the same as a vote, so you cannot expect to amass same number of people
If people's feelings/fears are that strong they would be out, 600000 people on a march is not a mandate for another vote whatever you might think!
I'd love to have been there. Unfortunately finances meant I wasn't able to. I bet plenty more had to work and already had other plans.
600,000 people for a march is good. Much better than the alternate one held North "A remainer has already pointed out that 1million people turned out for a march against the war in Iraq, more people were bothered about something happening thousands of miles away than they were about something on their own doorstep! Says it all really! If it meant that much to you, you would have been there.It's a bit like the whingers who say I would have voted remainer if I could have been bothered to go and vote! | |||
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"Two points:- The total was 700,000, not 600,000 according to the police That is the numver for a mandate for a referendum Just think how many people (like myself) wanted to attend but couldnt. If you want to see how out of touch the Brexit voters are one was interviewed having juat met Farage and suggested we should re-form the Empire!!" Just think how many people didn't want to attend and didn't! | |||
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"Two points:- The total was 700,000, not 600,000 according to the police That is the numver for a mandate for a referendum Just think how many people (like myself) wanted to attend but couldnt. If you want to see how out of touch the Brexit voters are one was interviewed having juat met Farage and suggested we should re-form the Empire!!" There is footage on youtube of remainers being interviewed on a previous march, one remain interviewee thought Angela Merkel was an MEP, that is how thick as mince some of the remainers are who go on these marches. Yesterday's March in London was a March for losers, it was nothing more than a sore losers March. As for the Leave means Leave campaign event up north, it wasn't a March, it was an event held inside a hired building! | |||
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" There is footage on youtube of remainers being interviewed on a previous march, one remain interviewee thought Angela Merkel was an MEP, that is how thick as mince some of the remainers are who go on these marches. Yesterday's March in London was a March for losers, it was nothing more than a sore losers March. As for the Leave means Leave campaign event up north, it wasn't a March, it was an event held inside a hired building!" You suffer a deficiency of dignity in your victory. | |||
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" There is footage on youtube of remainers being interviewed on a previous march, one remain interviewee thought Angela Merkel was an MEP, that is how thick as mince some of the remainers are who go on these marches. Yesterday's March in London was a March for losers, it was nothing more than a sore losers March. As for the Leave means Leave campaign event up north, it wasn't a March, it was an event held inside a hired building! You suffer a deficiency of dignity in your victory. " Haha! Pity you don't level the same criticism at remoaners who have had no dignity what-so-ever in defeat! Are you too blind to see it or is it your usual remain bias talking again? | |||
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"Two points:- The total was 700,000, not 600,000 according to the police That is the numver for a mandate for a referendum Just think how many people (like myself) wanted to attend but couldnt. If you want to see how out of touch the Brexit voters are one was interviewed having juat met Farage and suggested we should re-form the Empire!! There is footage on youtube of remainers being interviewed on a previous march, one remain interviewee thought Angela Merkel was an MEP, that is how thick as mince some of the remainers are who go on these marches. Yesterday's March in London was a March for losers, it was nothing more than a sore losers March. As for the Leave means Leave campaign event up north, it wasn't a March, it was an event held inside a hired building!" You have seen the demographic breakdowns regarding the respective age and intelligence of leave v remain voters? | |||
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" There is footage on youtube of remainers being interviewed on a previous march, one remain interviewee thought Angela Merkel was an MEP, that is how thick as mince some of the remainers are who go on these marches. Yesterday's March in London was a March for losers, it was nothing more than a sore losers March. As for the Leave means Leave campaign event up north, it wasn't a March, it was an event held inside a hired building! You suffer a deficiency of dignity in your victory. Haha! Pity you don't level the same criticism at remoaners who have had no dignity what-so-ever in defeat! Are you too blind to see it or is it your usual remain bias talking again? " A large minority want the opposite of what you want. Do you feel threatened by a minority, that you continually feel the need to abuse them in such a petty way? | |||
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"Two points:- The total was 700,000, not 600,000 according to the police That is the numver for a mandate for a referendum Just think how many people (like myself) wanted to attend but couldnt. If you want to see how out of touch the Brexit voters are one was interviewed having juat met Farage and suggested we should re-form the Empire!!" that's a very small brush to tar ALL Brexiteers with. | |||
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"Two points:- The total was 700,000, not 600,000 according to the police That is the numver for a mandate for a referendum Just think how many people (like myself) wanted to attend but couldnt. If you want to see how out of touch the Brexit voters are one was interviewed having juat met Farage and suggested we should re-form the Empire!! that's a very small brush to tar ALL Brexiteers with. "Oh I am not however it is qorth reading the demographic studies of the age and scholastic intelligence of leave voters compared to remain ones - I think you can kind of guess the result | |||
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"Two points:- The total was 700,000, not 600,000 according to the police That is the numver for a mandate for a referendum Just think how many people (like myself) wanted to attend but couldnt. If you want to see how out of touch the Brexit voters are one was interviewed having juat met Farage and suggested we should re-form the Empire!! There is footage on youtube of remainers being interviewed on a previous march, one remain interviewee thought Angela Merkel was an MEP, that is how thick as mince some of the remainers are who go on these marches. Yesterday's March in London was a March for losers, it was nothing more than a sore losers March. As for the Leave means Leave campaign event up north, it wasn't a March, it was an event held inside a hired building!" There are highly intelligent and polar opposite in both camps. It's pointless and pathetic to imply those voters in the opposite camp to how you voted, are all of the same ilk. | |||
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"Two points:- The total was 700,000, not 600,000 according to the police That is the numver for a mandate for a referendum Just think how many people (like myself) wanted to attend but couldnt. If you want to see how out of touch the Brexit voters are one was interviewed having juat met Farage and suggested we should re-form the Empire!! There is footage on youtube of remainers being interviewed on a previous march, one remain interviewee thought Angela Merkel was an MEP, that is how thick as mince some of the remainers are who go on these marches. Yesterday's March in London was a March for losers, it was nothing more than a sore losers March. As for the Leave means Leave campaign event up north, it wasn't a March, it was an event held inside a hired building! You have seen the demographic breakdowns regarding the respective age and intelligence of leave v remain voters?" Older people tended to vote more for Leave....you ever heard of the term 'older and wiser'. Older people make better decisions based on having more life experiences. As for intelligence it was reported in the news a few months ago that high pollution levels have a negative, detrimental effect on intelligence levels in the local population. Considering London voted remain and is also the most highly polluted area of the country, I think there could be a link there that London smog has addled London populations brains and that's why they voted remain. 700,000 more remoaners had another high dose of London pollution yesterday, into the bargain, so maybe they lost a few more brain cells and lowered their IQ's some more. | |||
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"Two points:- The total was 700,000, not 600,000 according to the police That is the numver for a mandate for a referendum Just think how many people (like myself) wanted to attend but couldnt. If you want to see how out of touch the Brexit voters are one was interviewed having juat met Farage and suggested we should re-form the Empire!! that's a very small brush to tar ALL Brexiteers with.
Oh I am not however it is qorth reading the demographic studies of the age and scholastic intelligence of leave voters compared to remain ones - I think you can kind of guess the result "Even research (conclusions) can hold a bias dependent on the rigor of such research. | |||
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"But where does it say in law that we cannot have a second referendum" I have no idea but where does it say in law we can keep voting on something important till the original 'losers' become the 'winners'? But that's democracy at work... That's how power transfers in a democracy. My point is that it's not about voting over and over until someone gets the result they want. If a second vote occurs and if Brexits arguements are still valid and accurate and the will of the people is the same then Brexit will win again. To say you can't vote on a certain topic again is a dangerous step against democracy, especially if you prevent that vote because you fear losing. By drawing that line you are heading towards a Totalitarian state, much like Soviet Russia. Brexit supporters should welcome another vote. They should say bring it on because if nothing has factually changed then the populace should vote exactly in the same way as they did before. Totally agree with you here, it is only undemocratic to deny the second vote. If it is the will of the people to have another vote & 1% of the population can be bothered to get out there and show their commitment then why not have another vote. Currently the leave options are so sh*t it is way better to stay. If 52% of the voters voting out wasn't enough for you why should 1% of the population (at best!) on a march be enough for you to call for a second vote! EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!
Protest marches of this size have always seen the argument in their favour won in the end. In recent memory the two other huge protests were also right about the Poll Tax and about the Iraq war.
The Poll Tax March succeeded in making the Conservative Govt at the time take notice. The Iraq war protest failed in its attempt to change the then Labour Govts course of action but it tainted Tony Blair to this day.
Theresa May knows her history and she will take note. Even “bloody difficult women” would not want a legacy like Tony Blair.
The Iraq March had over 1 million people on it, and it achieved nothing. Today's March had 500,000 to 600,000 people on it at best, there is no comparison in terms of numbers and I think today's March achieves nothing as well.
17.2 million people voted to leave the EU, so when you get 17.2 million people on a March I'll sit up and take notice.
17.2 m people on march is practically impossible. There is simply no infrastracture to maintain such a large number of people in one place at the same time. Also people vote across whole UK and that includes leave votes not only on British Isles.
There are approximately 66million people in the Uk going about their daily business so it shouldn't be a problem to have a day of organised protests which could draw 17.2million. They don't have to all be in the same place just all out on the same day like the people who voted out in the referendum!
A march is not the same as a vote, so you cannot expect to amass same number of people
If people's feelings/fears are that strong they would be out, 600000 people on a march is not a mandate for another vote whatever you might think!
I'd love to have been there. Unfortunately finances meant I wasn't able to. I bet plenty more had to work and already had other plans.
600,000 people for a march is good. Much better than the alternate one held North
A remainer has already pointed out that 1million people turned out for a march against the war in Iraq, more people were bothered about something happening thousands of miles away than they were about something on their own doorstep! Says it all really!
If it meant that much to you, you would have been there.It's a bit like the whingers who say I would have voted remainer if I could have been bothered to go and vote! "I have literally no money in my bank account and the petrol in my car I need for work next week. Don't assume you know everyones reason as to why they couldn't get there. | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite..." ....The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting." Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. | |||
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"What was the vote? Leave or remain! What was the result? Leave won! What is the problem? Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Lol
No. But I’m sure the leave voters will come to terms with that eventually.
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Matt I would say it was people like you who didn't get the result they wanted from the referendum, you were probably crying as reality dawned on you! You still haven't come to terms with it now, you can't except that a majority of voters wanted to leave the Eu.
It's the implementation of the result that as not been so good due to poor leadership and a genuine lack of desire to follow through with the result! "Yes, I didn’t get the result I wanted in the referendum. And when the results came in, I was sat in a hotel in the US on a work trip and yes was pretty sad at what happened. I was thinking about what a complete mess it was going to be and how the hell it was going to actually be implemented. And what a detrimental effect it would have on our country both economically and socially. But this was all completely obvious and predictable. What baffles me the most is why so many people are so unwilling to open their eyes and just look at what is going on. But there have been studies that show that conservative-leaning voters are unable to process new information when it goes against their worldview. And they hunker down and believe in their (wrong) view even more. Hence the shit we are in now. -Matt | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law." Deport them to where?  | |||
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"I see people are still trying defend Brexit. May I suggest you put on caps lock and disable spell checker for a better chance of winning the argument and for your fellow brexiters to recognise a comrade... "Bless your cotton socks. #Brexiteerhere | |||
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"I see people are still trying defend Brexit. May I suggest you put on caps lock and disable spell checker for a better chance of winning the argument and for your fellow brexiters to recognise a comrade...
Bless your cotton socks.
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"I see people are still trying defend Brexit. May I suggest you put on caps lock and disable spell checker for a better chance of winning the argument and for your fellow brexiters to recognise a comrade... "...........Oh look..Its Bob the magic builder..are you still building houses while sat on your backside commenting on fabswingers all day...how do you do it...where can i buy one of these magic trowels. | |||
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"What was the vote? Leave or remain! What was the result? Leave won! What is the problem? Some people didn't get the result they expected/wanted! Lol
No. But I’m sure the leave voters will come to terms with that eventually.
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Matt I would say it was people like you who didn't get the result they wanted from the referendum, you were probably crying as reality dawned on you! You still haven't come to terms with it now, you can't except that a majority of voters wanted to leave the Eu.
It's the implementation of the result that as not been so good due to poor leadership and a genuine lack of desire to follow through with the result!
Yes, I didn’t get the result I wanted in the referendum. And when the results came in, I was sat in a hotel in the US on a work trip and yes was pretty sad at what happened. I was thinking about what a complete mess it was going to be and how the hell it was going to actually be implemented. And what a detrimental effect it would have on our country both economically and socially.
But this was all completely obvious and predictable. What baffles me the most is why so many people are so unwilling to open their eyes and just look at what is going on.
But there have been studies that show that conservative-leaning voters are unable to process new information when it goes against their worldview. And they hunker down and believe in their (wrong) view even more.
Hence the shit we are in now.
-Matt"Actually that contradicts theories of change. Surely conservatism is all about preserving the status quo which equates to anti change. Oh and let's both acknowledge that discussing conservatism/conservatism-leaning is NOT making the leave camp a Tory ideal because the referendum was/is apolitical (not absence of politics but absence of party allegiance). | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where? "Australia | |||
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"I see people are still trying defend Brexit. May I suggest you put on caps lock and disable spell checker for a better chance of winning the argument and for your fellow brexiters to recognise a comrade...
Bless your cotton socks.
#Brexiteerhere
Thanks buttercup.. "Awww buttercup sounds sweeter than brexiteer
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"I see people are still trying defend Brexit. May I suggest you put on caps lock and disable spell checker for a better chance of winning the argument and for your fellow brexiters to recognise a comrade...
Bless your cotton socks.
#Brexiteerhere
Thanks buttercup..
Awww buttercup sounds sweeter than brexiteer
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where? "If they came here & broke the law within a certain period (I think it is either 3 or 5 years)then you can deport the person to their coubtry of origin. | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where?
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where?
If they came here & broke the law within a certain period (I think it is either 3 or 5 years)then you can deport the person to their coubtry of origin."You stated that we are all immigrants and if we break the law, we should be deported. I was born here. Where do I get deported to? | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where?
If they came here & broke the law within a certain period (I think it is either 3 or 5 years)then you can deport the person to their coubtry of origin.
You stated that we are all immigrants and if we break the law, we should be deported. I was born here. Where do I get deported to? "No I mean historically the British are a bastard nation. In terms of recent immigration there was a good pieve done by The Mash Report citing how misled the public have been regarding it. | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where?
If they came here & broke the law within a certain period (I think it is either 3 or 5 years)then you can deport the person to their coubtry of origin.
You stated that we are all immigrants and if we break the law, we should be deported. I was born here. Where do I get deported to?
No I mean historically the British are a bastard nation. In terms of recent immigration there was a good pieve done by The Mash Report citing how misled the public have been regarding it."Your original comment still doesn't make sense. You said we are all immigrants (which I already knew btw) and so should be deported if we break the law. I was born here. Where do I get deported to? | |||
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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replyes, there will be a march in london calling for a peoples vote today, it is said to be the largest anti brexit demonstration ever seen, whats your view? I agree there should be one as you woulnt buy a house without a second opinion, also there wasnt a contingency plan." Fine a good day out for idiots,like all these marches a waste of time but what annoys me is MP's committing treason by not exepting the democratic will of the people,They are no different to hate preachers of IS but we allow them to roam the streets as well,what kind of country are we? | |||
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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replyes, there will be a march in london calling for a peoples vote today, it is said to be the largest anti brexit demonstration ever seen, whats your view? I agree there should be one as you woulnt buy a house without a second opinion, also there wasnt a contingency plan.Fine a good day out for idiots,like all these marches a waste of time but what annoys me is MP's committing treason by not exepting the democratic will of the people,They are no different to hate preachers of IS but we allow them to roam the streets as well,what kind of country are we?" which bit are they not accepting ? | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where?
Australia
I'm not sure we can do that anymore "I'd steal a loaf of bread to get to Australia | |||
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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replyes, there will be a march in london calling for a peoples vote today, it is said to be the largest anti brexit demonstration ever seen, whats your view? I agree there should be one as you woulnt buy a house without a second opinion, also there wasnt a contingency plan.Fine a good day out for idiots,like all these marches a waste of time but what annoys me is MP's committing treason by not exepting the democratic will of the people,They are no different to hate preachers of IS but we allow them to roam the streets as well,what kind of country are we?" They are merely exercising their constitutional right to protest so how is that treason? That makes us a tolerant country. And the comparison to IS is at best laughable in a disbelieving kind of way. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. " All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. " Shall we slink off somewhere and fuck? | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. " I voted remain. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. Shall we slink off somewhere and fuck? "You're obviously attracted to my rational mind... So go on then  | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain. "
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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replyes, there will be a march in london calling for a peoples vote today, it is said to be the largest anti brexit demonstration ever seen, whats your view? I agree there should be one as you woulnt buy a house without a second opinion, also there wasnt a contingency plan.Fine a good day out for idiots,like all these marches a waste of time but what annoys me is MP's committing treason by not exepting the democratic will of the people,They are no different to hate preachers of IS but we allow them to roam the streets as well,what kind of country are we?" It wasn't legally binding | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain.
I'm sure there are many remainers and remainers who joined the march who aren't idiots "Still, their opinion is as valid as those who would like to see a return to hunting with dogs. Should we capitulate to anyone who can bring the capital to a stand still? Is that what modern politics is all about? You're never going to get those on the right side of politics to gather in such large numbers, they know they don't need to. Because they know that most of them WILL actually turn out to vote. | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where?
Australia
I'm not sure we can do that anymore
I'd steal a loaf of bread to get to Australia "I wouldn't, they have nasty eight legged freaks over there! At least the ones we have here don't chase after you and try to kill you! | |||
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"600000 do me a favour no where near ...." Yes, you're right. It's estimated that there were 700,000 people there. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. " All you need is a big red bus and a promise that gives comfort to a fool .Its more effective than marching . | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All you need is a big red bus and a promise that gives comfort to a fool .Its more effective than marching . "So it would seem. Now we're seeing their opposite number desperately clinging on to the hope of never ending referendums.. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain.
I'm sure there are many remainers and remainers who joined the march who aren't idiots
Still, their opinion is as valid as those who would like to see a return to hunting with dogs. Should we capitulate to anyone who can bring the capital to a stand still? Is that what modern politics is all about?
You're never going to get those on the right side of politics to gather in such large numbers, they know they don't need to. Because they know that most of them WILL actually turn out to vote. "Validity of opinion is always debatable, eg flat earthers .
As for right side, you mean right wing? If so how are you determining the two camps? The remainers cos they don't want change? | |||
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"Umm 700,000 people were there! Saying people are "remoaners" as this is a criticism is playground bame calling. The same mentality as the luddites who smashed the mills ajd factories in the Industrial Revolution. Give it 20 years and I imagine "Brexiter" will be the same sort of pejorative term as luddite.......The crowd were chanting....No nations....No borders....No deportations...Do you agree with with what they were chanting. Yup - have a little look at the Government's own analysis regarding immigration. We are a nation of immigrants whether we came with the Romans beating the Celts and Saxons back, the Normans with William the Conqueror or came with the Hugenots running feom religious persecution. We are a nation of immigrants. Deport those who break the law. Deport them to where?
Australia
I'm not sure we can do that anymore
I'd steal a loaf of bread to get to Australia
I wouldn't, they have nasty eight legged freaks over there! At least the ones we have here don't chase after you and try to kill you!"Oh boy yeah you're right. That loaf of bread is safe | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. Shall we slink off somewhere and fuck?
You're obviously attracted to my rational mind...
So go on then "I'm attracted to your body | |||
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"I see people are still trying defend Brexit. May I suggest you put on caps lock and disable spell checker for a better chance of winning the argument and for your fellow brexiters to recognise a comrade... ...........Oh look..Its Bob the magic builder..are you still building houses while sat on your backside commenting on fabswingers all day...how do you do it...where can i buy one of these magic trowels."Wendy, Muck, Scoop and Dizzy must be doing all the work while Bob has one long tea break! | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All you need is a big red bus and a promise that gives comfort to a fool .Its more effective than marching . "It's my understanding that it was an idea, not a promise. Besides, even if it was perceived as a promise, we all should realise that politicians are notorious for not fulfilling promises. So your point is moot IMO. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain.
I'm sure there are many remainers and remainers who joined the march who aren't idiots
Still, their opinion is as valid as those who would like to see a return to hunting with dogs. Should we capitulate to anyone who can bring the capital to a stand still? Is that what modern politics is all about?
You're never going to get those on the right side of politics to gather in such large numbers, they know they don't need to. Because they know that most of them WILL actually turn out to vote.
Validity of opinion is always debatable, eg flat earthers .
As for right side, you mean right wing? If so how are you determining the two camps? The remainers cos they don't want change? "Are you saying you belive brexiteers to be modern free thinkers who believe in change? You believe most remain voters were conservative voters? You could be right. The wealthy do stand to lose the most from brexit. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. Shall we slink off somewhere and fuck?
You're obviously attracted to my rational mind...
So go on then
I'm attracted to your body "It'll be the fact I'm female | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. Shall we slink off somewhere and fuck?
You're obviously attracted to my rational mind...
So go on then
I'm attracted to your body
It'll be the fact I identify as female "Fify. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain.
I'm sure there are many remainers and remainers who joined the march who aren't idiots
Still, their opinion is as valid as those who would like to see a return to hunting with dogs. Should we capitulate to anyone who can bring the capital to a stand still? Is that what modern politics is all about?
You're never going to get those on the right side of politics to gather in such large numbers, they know they don't need to. Because they know that most of them WILL actually turn out to vote.
Validity of opinion is always debatable, eg flat earthers .
As for right side, you mean right wing? If so how are you determining the two camps? The remainers cos they don't want change?
Are you saying you belive brexiteers to be modern free thinkers who believe in change? You believe most remain voters were conservative voters? You could be right. The wealthy do stand to lose the most from brexit. "That is what caused me to vote leave
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. Shall we slink off somewhere and fuck?
You're obviously attracted to my rational mind...
So go on then
I'm attracted to your body
It'll be the fact I identify as female
Fify."I had that thought too, haha | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain.
I'm sure there are many remainers and remainers who joined the march who aren't idiots
Still, their opinion is as valid as those who would like to see a return to hunting with dogs. Should we capitulate to anyone who can bring the capital to a stand still? Is that what modern politics is all about?
You're never going to get those on the right side of politics to gather in such large numbers, they know they don't need to. Because they know that most of them WILL actually turn out to vote.
Validity of opinion is always debatable, eg flat earthers .
As for right side, you mean right wing? If so how are you determining the two camps? The remainers cos they don't want change?
Are you saying you belive brexiteers to be modern free thinkers who believe in change? You believe most remain voters were conservative voters? You could be right. The wealthy do stand to lose the most from brexit.
That is what caused me to vote leave
Personally I don't view the referendum to have a political persuasion, but having said that, yeah I could be right "Most of the arguments for remaining are: "I'll have to apply for a visa to go skiing, how tiresome!" "I might have to pay causal workers a real wage!" And, "my wealth will be affected! Won't someone consider my wealth!?" | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All you need is a big red bus and a promise that gives comfort to a fool .Its more effective than marching .
So it would seem. Now we're seeing their opposite number desperately clinging on to the hope of never ending referendums.."Not me I'm want those responsible for it to actually take responsibility for it and drive the bus and deliver the promises on the side or big bus or drive it straight off the cliff either way . | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain.
I'm sure there are many remainers and remainers who joined the march who aren't idiots
Still, their opinion is as valid as those who would like to see a return to hunting with dogs. Should we capitulate to anyone who can bring the capital to a stand still? Is that what modern politics is all about?
You're never going to get those on the right side of politics to gather in such large numbers, they know they don't need to. Because they know that most of them WILL actually turn out to vote.
Validity of opinion is always debatable, eg flat earthers .
As for right side, you mean right wing? If so how are you determining the two camps? The remainers cos they don't want change?
Are you saying you belive brexiteers to be modern free thinkers who believe in change? You believe most remain voters were conservative voters? You could be right. The wealthy do stand to lose the most from brexit. "Really? I think that a hedge fund manager made £20m thanks to brexit! Mogg Johnson both millionaires - it won't hurt them - bread increase of 20p or fuel up 20p - not going to hurt them. Manufacturing guru's employing people in the UK - maybe - But then they do a Dyson and move it abroad? The guy "just about managing " - he'll be alright he can claim more benefits! Next. | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain.
I'm sure there are many remainers and remainers who joined the march who aren't idiots
Still, their opinion is as valid as those who would like to see a return to hunting with dogs. Should we capitulate to anyone who can bring the capital to a stand still? Is that what modern politics is all about?
You're never going to get those on the right side of politics to gather in such large numbers, they know they don't need to. Because they know that most of them WILL actually turn out to vote.
Validity of opinion is always debatable, eg flat earthers .
As for right side, you mean right wing? If so how are you determining the two camps? The remainers cos they don't want change?
Are you saying you belive brexiteers to be modern free thinkers who believe in change? You believe most remain voters were conservative voters? You could be right. The wealthy do stand to lose the most from brexit.
That is what caused me to vote leave
Personally I don't view the referendum to have a political persuasion, but having said that, yeah I could be right
Most of the arguments for remaining are:
"I'll have to apply for a visa to go skiing, how tiresome!"
"I might have to pay causal workers a real wage!"
And, "my wealth will be affected! Won't someone consider my wealth!?""Get your skiing holidays in quick Clem | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All you need is a big red bus and a promise that gives comfort to a fool .Its more effective than marching .
So it would seem. Now we're seeing their opposite number desperately clinging on to the hope of never ending referendums..
Not me I'm want those responsible for it to actually take responsibility for it and drive the bus and deliver the promises on the side or big bus or drive it straight off the cliff either way .
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. " Is an idiot anyone opinion you don’t agree with ? | |||
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"It reminded me of the country side alliance's march in 2002. 400,000 people. Most in support of hunting with dogs. Proving you can collect hundreds of thousands of idiots all together in one place at one time. But it doesn't necessarily make them right. All this name calling from both camps declaring the opposite side as idiots is getting tiresome. I voted remain.
I'm sure there are many remainers and remainers who joined the march who aren't idiots
Still, their opinion is as valid as those who would like to see a return to hunting with dogs. Should we capitulate to anyone who can bring the capital to a stand still? Is that what modern politics is all about?
You're never going to get those on the right side of politics to gather in such large numbers, they know they don't need to. Because they know that most of them WILL actually turn out to vote.
Validity of opinion is always debatable, eg flat earthers .
As for right side, you mean right wing? If so how are you determining the two camps? The remainers cos they don't want change?
Are you saying you belive brexiteers to be modern free thinkers who believe in change? You believe most remain voters were conservative voters? You could be right. The wealthy do stand to lose the most from brexit.
That is what caused me to vote leave
Personally I don't view the referendum to have a political persuasion, but having said that, yeah I could be right
Most of the arguments for remaining are:
"I'll have to apply for a visa to go skiing, how tiresome!"
"I might have to pay causal workers a real wage!"
And, "my wealth will be affected! Won't someone consider my wealth!?"
Get your skiing holidays in quick Clem "I can only dream of such luxury. But i do like to have the opportunity to easily work in Europe, so brexit will potentially affect my potential wealth, potentially.. | |||
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