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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ive been watching some of it, and can't see what version of the uk they live in., the party for the well off, either ignoring or avoiding the issue of those struggling to make ends meet |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
I'm in Spain at the moment with my fella.
In the shower yesterday and I can hear some politician droning on.
For fecks sake, he's only watching a live broadcast on his tablet.
"Feckin' hell, I didn't come hear to watch a party political broadcast!"
He got the message I think - not heard it since.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm in Spain at the moment with my fella.
In the shower yesterday and I can hear some politician droning on.
For fecks sake, he's only watching a live broadcast on his tablet.
"Feckin' hell, I didn't come hear to watch a party political broadcast!"
He got the message I think - not heard it since.
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Well you ain't missed much, except waffle lol |
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I honestly can’t understand what is going through the minds of either May or Johnson or Hammond. Blair Major Thatcher I could understand, I could see what they were aiming for, even if I hated it. But with May and Johnson I just don’t get. It’s got to be more than being complete fucking imbeciles. It has to be, doesn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We are witnessing the slow death of conservatism .The bastard neo con child of moggy and Boris will be the new conservative party aligned further to the right than ever before and hoping to hoover up the far right kipper vote .
They need a Mosley figure more than ever ... |
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Unfortunately the conservative party don't really like conservative voters, they've abandoned the traditional middle class Christian conservatives like myself to try to seem all inclusive and nice.
They no longer believe in traditional party values like, grammar schools, crime and punishment, drugs laws, marriage and even Brexit, they just can't stand there own voters because there London liberal elites in the main.
You could make the same argument over labour under Blair and brown I guess.
Conservative voters in the main vote the conservative party out of desperation of nobody else to vote for.
If they put Nigel farage in as prime minister they would stream roll the next election. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"I'm in Spain at the moment with my fella.
In the shower yesterday and I can hear some politician droning on.
For fecks sake, he's only watching a live broadcast on his tablet.
"Feckin' hell, I didn't come hear to watch a party political broadcast!"
He got the message I think - not heard it since.
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That's men for you darling |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"We are witnessing the slow death of conservatism .The bastard neo con child of moggy and Boris will be the new conservative party aligned further to the right than ever before and hoping to hoover up the far right kipper vote .
They need a Mosley figure more than ever ..."
You are so wrong because left wing labour will give it life |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I honestly can’t understand what is going through the minds of either May or Johnson or Hammond. Blair Major Thatcher I could understand, I could see what they were aiming for, even if I hated it. But with May and Johnson I just don’t get. It’s got to be more than being complete fucking imbeciles. It has to be, doesn't it?"
They are basically trying to handle a situation that they do not know how to handle because Brexit and Remain has nothing to do with the political dogma of either party so none are really in tune with things.
This does not make them idiots it is the fact that they are not living in the real world,just a theory of mine,but my believe is the days of political dogma may end soon I hope as I do not believe in any idealism that rules political parties.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unfortunately the conservative party don't really like conservative voters, they've abandoned the traditional middle class Christian conservatives like myself to try to seem all inclusive and nice.
They no longer believe in traditional party values like, grammar schools, crime and punishment, drugs laws, marriage and even Brexit, they just can't stand there own voters because there London liberal elites in the main.
You could make the same argument over labour under Blair and brown I guess.
Conservative voters in the main vote the conservative party out of desperation of nobody else to vote for.
If they put Nigel farage in as prime minister they would stream roll the next election."
Actually they are not "London liberal elites" - they "Conservative elites" - the leaders (all millionaires ) are Tory! |
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They are the party that bas been happy to make the many struggle for the benefit of the very few. Little has changed, except that it's probably the tipping point now, where it's so crystal clear that there's little point trying to pretend otherwise.
They're morally bankrupt and recent years have highlighted their gross incompetence. After Brexit you will be on your own, with the architects of it long gone, but still wealthy - unlike you and fellows
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"They are the party that bas been happy to make the many struggle for the benefit of the very few. Little has changed, except that it's probably the tipping point now, where it's so crystal clear that there's little point trying to pretend otherwise.
They're morally bankrupt and recent years have highlighted their gross incompetence. After Brexit you will be on your own, with the architects of it long gone, but still wealthy - unlike you and fellows
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Yep, Cameron seems to have vanished |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They are the party that bas been happy to make the many struggle for the benefit of the very few. Little has changed, except that it's probably the tipping point now, where it's so crystal clear that there's little point trying to pretend otherwise.
They're morally bankrupt and recent years have highlighted their gross incompetence. After Brexit you will be on your own, with the architects of it long gone, but still wealthy - unlike you and fellows
Yep, Cameron seems to have vanished"
Not surprised he has pulled off the biggest act of Knock, Knock, Ginger in history!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They are the party that bas been happy to make the many struggle for the benefit of the very few. Little has changed, except that it's probably the tipping point now, where it's so crystal clear that there's little point trying to pretend otherwise.
They're morally bankrupt and recent years have highlighted their gross incompetence. After Brexit you will be on your own, with the architects of it long gone, but still wealthy - unlike you and fellows
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The Conservatives have been like this my whole life. They have a knack of making people vote against their own interest. For example people without private health insurance voting for them and supporting their dismantling of the NHS. Literally voting themselves into an early grave.
And I won’t even mention the B word.
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"They are the party that bas been happy to make the many struggle for the benefit of the very few. Little has changed, except that it's probably the tipping point now, where it's so crystal clear that there's little point trying to pretend otherwise.
They're morally bankrupt and recent years have highlighted their gross incompetence. After Brexit you will be on your own, with the architects of it long gone, but still wealthy - unlike you and fellows
The Conservatives have been like this my whole life. They have a knack of making people vote against their own interest. For example people without private health insurance voting for them and supporting their dismantling of the NHS. Literally voting themselves into an early grave.
And I won’t even mention the B word.
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Unlike Tony Blair who saddled the NHS with billions of private debt and then fucked off and made hundreds of millions making speeches?.
Do me a favour, stop with the bollocks
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They are the party that bas been happy to make the many struggle for the benefit of the very few. Little has changed, except that it's probably the tipping point now, where it's so crystal clear that there's little point trying to pretend otherwise.
They're morally bankrupt and recent years have highlighted their gross incompetence. After Brexit you will be on your own, with the architects of it long gone, but still wealthy - unlike you and fellows
The Conservatives have been like this my whole life. They have a knack of making people vote against their own interest. For example people without private health insurance voting for them and supporting their dismantling of the NHS. Literally voting themselves into an early grave.
And I won’t even mention the B word.
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Unlike Tony Blair who saddled the NHS with billions of private debt and then fucked off and made hundreds of millions making speeches?.
Do me a favour, stop with the bollocks
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You’re very binary. Tony Blair was a horrific PM.
None of what I said was bollocks. The Tories are trying to privatise the NHS bit by bit. |
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"They are the party that bas been happy to make the many struggle for the benefit of the very few. Little has changed, except that it's probably the tipping point now, where it's so crystal clear that there's little point trying to pretend otherwise.
They're morally bankrupt and recent years have highlighted their gross incompetence. After Brexit you will be on your own, with the architects of it long gone, but still wealthy - unlike you and fellows
The Conservatives have been like this my whole life. They have a knack of making people vote against their own interest. For example people without private health insurance voting for them and supporting their dismantling of the NHS. Literally voting themselves into an early grave.
And I won’t even mention the B word.
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Unlike Tony Blair who saddled the NHS with billions of private debt and then fucked off and made hundreds of millions making speeches?.
Do me a favour, stop with the bollocks
You’re very binary. Tony Blair was a horrific PM.
None of what I said was bollocks. The Tories are trying to privatise the NHS bit by bit. "
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And there slightly more honest about it than the rest, big deal.
We spend around 120,000 million pounds on the NHS, the service has got worse year on year, regardless of which party was in or out and every year for years another report is produced saying the NHS in its current format is unsustainable.
Get over it, nothing lasts forever. |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
Huddersfield /derby cinemas |
Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,, what a shame their work is undone when the camera at the back of the hall reveals the hall is less than a third full for speeches by their own ministers |
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Loved the entrance to he conference with the word opportunity above and a blue conservative barrier blocking the way in. Sort of sums up the tories in a single photo, no words required.
Cant post the photo but it can be found quite easily with google. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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Watching the news highlights of this just seems to illustrate that this is a Party trying to govern but which is paralysed by division and indecision. I also read that the Conservative Party now have only 125,000 Members and the vast majority of those are over 60 years old. The Boris sideshow yesterday was childlike in its transparency and I see nothing other than this Govt failing sooner, rather than later.
It is like the crash that you absolutely know is coming, but it is coming in slow motion and all the while the focus is on the parts falling off and failing beforehand.
Shameful really and I have always been a natural Conservative voter. Wouldn’t it be odd and somewhat ironic if it was the EU question that was allegedlyused to keep the Conservatives together is the thing that ends up ripping them apart for good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Watching the news highlights of this just seems to illustrate that this is a Party trying to govern but which is paralysed by division and indecision. I also read that the Conservative Party now have only 125,000 Members and the vast majority of those are over 60 years old. The Boris sideshow yesterday was childlike in its transparency and I see nothing other than this Govt failing sooner, rather than later.
It is like the crash that you absolutely know is coming, but it is coming in slow motion and all the while the focus is on the parts falling off and failing beforehand.
Shameful really and I have always been a natural Conservative voter. Wouldn’t it be odd and somewhat ironic if it was the EU question that was allegedlyused to keep the Conservatives together is the thing that ends up ripping them apart for good."
I think this is the end of the Conservative party as we know it. I also think the Labour party is equally as bad. Unfortunately at a time when we need quality politicians we have the worst bunch in my lifetime! Britain has to change - we point the finger at Europe - it needs to change but the UK is falling to bits. If you can't see it then your blind! It's a country in turmoil and not because of brexit but bad governance over 50 years or more! |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
not a fan of our PM and i don't agree with a lot of what she is saying.... but weirdly, probably the best speech I have seen her give!
i definately can not be feeling well....  |
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"Watching the news highlights of this just seems to illustrate that this is a Party trying to govern but which is paralysed by division and indecision. I also read that the Conservative Party now have only 125,000 Members and the vast majority of those are over 60 years old. The Boris sideshow yesterday was childlike in its transparency and I see nothing other than this Govt failing sooner, rather than later.
It is like the crash that you absolutely know is coming, but it is coming in slow motion and all the while the focus is on the parts falling off and failing beforehand.
Shameful really and I have always been a natural Conservative voter. Wouldn’t it be odd and somewhat ironic if it was the EU question that was allegedlyused to keep the Conservatives together is the thing that ends up ripping them apart for good."
I know exactly how you feel. |
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"Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,, what a shame their work is undone when the camera at the back of the hall reveals the hall is less than a third full for speeches by their own ministers"
Not so with Boris Johnson's speech yesterday. The hall he made his speech in was packed to the rafters (from every camera angle). |
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"Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,, what a shame their work is undone when the camera at the back of the hall reveals the hall is less than a third full for speeches by their own ministers
Not so with Boris Johnson's speech yesterday. The hall he made his speech in was packed to the rafters (from every camera angle)."
Whilst BoJo's definitely got the most coverage apparently the fringe meeting that was most packed was the one held by the People's Vote campaign.
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
Credit to Theresa May for pulling that off today. In the circumstances it was a momentous performance.
She is (and they are) still on borrowed time but bearing in mind the current climate she pulled off a great performance. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,,
Not so with Boris Johnson's speech yesterday. The hall he made his speech in was packed to the rafters (from every camera angle).
Whilst BoJo's definitely got the most coverage apparently the fringe meeting that was most packed was the one held by the People's Vote campaign.
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Was that when he stated the PM could be prosecuted via some ancient law?
I think his audience will mainly be there for entertainment and to hear firsthand his next gaff (that being one of them).
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"Credit to Theresa May for pulling that off today. In the circumstances it was a momentous performance.
She is (and they are) still on borrowed time but bearing in mind the current climate she pulled off a great performance."
Best conference speech May has ever given. Mind you, the bar was pretty low. She is a terrible public speaker, as are most politicians these days |
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"Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,,
Not so with Boris Johnson's speech yesterday. The hall he made his speech in was packed to the rafters (from every camera angle).
Whilst BoJo's definitely got the most coverage apparently the fringe meeting that was most packed was the one held by the People's Vote campaign.
Was that when he stated the PM could be prosecuted via some ancient law?
I think his audience will mainly be there for entertainment and to hear firsthand his next gaff (that being one of them).
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Did he play the "praemunire facias" card? That's a favourite of really hard core BREXITers. I think the last time anyone was summoned via a writ of praemunire facias was under Henry VIII. And maybe someone should tell BoJo and his mates that praemunire facias was efectivly repealed in 1967 by the introduction of The Criminal Law Act. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Watching the news highlights of this just seems to illustrate that this is a Party trying to govern but which is paralysed by division and indecision. I also read that the Conservative Party now have only 125,000 Members and the vast majority of those are over 60 years old. The Boris sideshow yesterday was childlike in its transparency and I see nothing other than this Govt failing sooner, rather than later.
It is like the crash that you absolutely know is coming, but it is coming in slow motion and all the while the focus is on the parts falling off and failing beforehand.
Shameful really and I have always been a natural Conservative voter. Wouldn’t it be odd and somewhat ironic if it was the EU question that was allegedlyused to keep the Conservatives together is the thing that ends up ripping them apart for good.
I know exactly how you feel."
If you vote for one party all your life your just a "sheep" following the political mind games. It is impossible for one party to be "RIGHT" all the time! In my life I have voted for the 3 major party's based upon what I thought was best for the country and in my best interest. My parents were Labour but I voted Tory right up until the end of Margaret Thatchers second election when I voted for Labour for the first time. I voted Blair as we need change - same reason I voted Thatcher but he was too long in the job and like Thatcher lost his way! I am a centrist don't like Looney left or right so my only option is Lib Dem at the moment. I would like to see proportional representation and then maybe we would get what's good for the country as opposed to political dogma. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,,
Not so with Boris Johnson's speech yesterday. The hall he made his speech in was packed to the rafters (from every camera angle).
Whilst BoJo's definitely got the most coverage apparently the fringe meeting that was most packed was the one held by the People's Vote campaign.
Was that when he stated the PM could be prosecuted via some ancient law?
I think his audience will mainly be there for entertainment and to hear firsthand his next gaff (that being one of them).
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Exactly, people want to see the next mental or racist thing he says. Thankfully he had little support amongst the Tory MPs |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,,
Not so with Boris Johnson's speech yesterday. The hall he made his speech in was packed to the rafters (from every camera angle).
Whilst BoJo's definitely got the most coverage apparently the fringe meeting that was most packed was the one held by the People's Vote campaign.
Was that when he stated the PM could be prosecuted via some ancient law?
I think his audience will mainly be there for entertainment and to hear firsthand his next gaff (that being one of them).
Did he play the "praemunire facias" card? That's a favourite of really hard core BREXITers. I think the last time anyone was summoned via a writ of praemunire facias was under Henry VIII. And maybe someone should tell BoJo and his mates that praemunire facias was efectivly repealed in 1967 by the introduction of The Criminal Law Act."
That's exactly what he did. Either he knows that it is repealed and just goes with it anyway, in the belief that only he knows it is actually untrue, or his advisors need to be fired. |
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"Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,,
Not so with Boris Johnson's speech yesterday. The hall he made his speech in was packed to the rafters (from every camera angle).
Whilst BoJo's definitely got the most coverage apparently the fringe meeting that was most packed was the one held by the People's Vote campaign.
Was that when he stated the PM could be prosecuted via some ancient law?
I think his audience will mainly be there for entertainment and to hear firsthand his next gaff (that being one of them).
Did he play the "praemunire facias" card? That's a favourite of really hard core BREXITers. I think the last time anyone was summoned via a writ of praemunire facias was under Henry VIII. And maybe someone should tell BoJo and his mates that praemunire facias was efectivly repealed in 1967 by the introduction of The Criminal Law Act.
That's exactly what he did. Either he knows that it is repealed and just goes with it anyway, in the belief that only he knows it is actually untrue, or his advisors need to be fired."
Bojo has never been overly bothered about the truth or facts. He got sacked as a journalist back in the day for exactly this sort of nonsense. Now he's a national treasure, it's apparently fine to just make stuff up. The fat waster needs to stfu |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Full credit to the cameraman/ woman who is laid on the floor at the front in order to make the crowd shots appear that the hall is full ,,,,
Not so with Boris Johnson's speech yesterday. The hall he made his speech in was packed to the rafters (from every camera angle).
Whilst BoJo's definitely got the most coverage apparently the fringe meeting that was most packed was the one held by the People's Vote campaign.
Was that when he stated the PM could be prosecuted via some ancient law?
I think his audience will mainly be there for entertainment and to hear firsthand his next gaff (that being one of them).
Did he play the "praemunire facias" card? That's a favourite of really hard core BREXITers. I think the last time anyone was summoned via a writ of praemunire facias was under Henry VIII. And maybe someone should tell BoJo and his mates that praemunire facias was efectivly repealed in 1967 by the introduction of The Criminal Law Act.
That's exactly what he did. Either he knows that it is repealed and just goes with it anyway, in the belief that only he knows it is actually untrue, or his advisors need to be fired.
Bojo has never been overly bothered about the truth or facts. He got sacked as a journalist back in the day for exactly this sort of nonsense. Now he's a national treasure, it's apparently fine to just make stuff up. The fat waster needs to stfu"
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
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Maybe you didn't use railways much in the 70s but I remember it as being a particularly horrendous experience (even after they extended the sandwich range at "Travelers Fair" beyond a curled up Kraft cheese slice between two curled up pieces of "Mothers' Pride" bread)
I really don't see how nationalising the railways will make anything better. If the past is anything to go by I can only see that making things worse.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
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Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better? |
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better? "
No & no. But I do think investment, if the government has to decide between investing in schools and hospitals or new rail track and rolling stock, will definitely be less.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better?
No & no. But I do think investment, if the government has to decide between investing in schools and hospitals or new rail track and rolling stock, will definitely be less.
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A simple question - can anybody explain why uk rail fares are some of the most expensive fares in the World - and everybody seems to complain about them? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better?
No & no. But I do think investment, if the government has to decide between investing in schools and hospitals or new rail track and rolling stock, will definitely be less.
A simple question - can anybody explain why uk rail fares are some of the most expensive fares in the World - and everybody seems to complain about them?"
Walk up fares are expensive. If you book in advance, or look for bargains, then there are some inexpensive deals to be had......I helped a friend travel from London to Birmingham yesterday for £7. |
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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago
lytham st.annes |
"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better?
No & no. But I do think investment, if the government has to decide between investing in schools and hospitals or new rail track and rolling stock, will definitely be less.
A simple question - can anybody explain why uk rail fares are some of the most expensive fares in the World - and everybody seems to complain about them?
Walk up fares are expensive. If you book in advance, or look for bargains, then there are some inexpensive deals to be had......I helped a friend travel from London to Birmingham yesterday for £7."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better?
No & no. But I do think investment, if the government has to decide between investing in schools and hospitals or new rail track and rolling stock, will definitely be less.
A simple question - can anybody explain why uk rail fares are some of the most expensive fares in the World - and everybody seems to complain about them?"
From what I've read we have some of the highest fares designed to get maximum revenue from business travel, and some of the lowest fares designed to get more revenue by filling more seats. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better?
No & no. But I do think investment, if the government has to decide between investing in schools and hospitals or new rail track and rolling stock, will definitely be less.
A simple question - can anybody explain why uk rail fares are some of the most expensive fares in the World - and everybody seems to complain about them?
From what I've read we have some of the highest fares designed to get maximum revenue from business travel, and some of the lowest fares designed to get more revenue by filling more seats. "
That's a fair (no pun intended) assessment.
As Companies tend to pay, then it doesn't really get highlighted.
I prefer the system used on the continent a lot. The price is set "per km or mile". |
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better?
No & no. But I do think investment, if the government has to decide between investing in schools and hospitals or new rail track and rolling stock, will definitely be less.
A simple question - can anybody explain why uk rail fares are some of the most expensive fares in the World - and everybody seems to complain about them?
Walk up fares are expensive. If you book in advance, or look for bargains, then there are some inexpensive deals to be had......I helped a friend travel from London to Birmingham yesterday for £7."
Try commuter service season tickets.....that's a scandal |
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better?
No & no. But I do think investment, if the government has to decide between investing in schools and hospitals or new rail track and rolling stock, will definitely be less.
A simple question - can anybody explain why uk rail fares are some of the most expensive fares in the World - and everybody seems to complain about them?
Walk up fares are expensive. If you book in advance, or look for bargains, then there are some inexpensive deals to be had......I helped a friend travel from London to Birmingham yesterday for £7."
Agde to Montpelier (45km) 2.60€! Agde to Paris (60€) - about 500km! |
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"Do you think that fares will go down with a nationalised railway?
Do you think that the services will get better? "
there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that proves they wont |
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"One thing may said, was if the railways were nationalised, taxpayers would be paying for something they may not use, yet here we are, endlessly bailing out privatised rail companies.
Maybe you didn't use railways much in the 70s but I remember it as being a particularly horrendous experience (even after they extended the sandwich range at "Travelers Fair" beyond a curled up Kraft cheese slice between two curled up pieces of "Mothers' Pride" bread)
I really don't see how nationalising the railways will make anything better. If the past is anything to go by I can only see that making things worse.
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Because obviously anything that has been privatised works a whole lot better. Carillion, Crapita etc etc would suggest that privatised services can be as bad or as indifferent as nationalised services. |
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A part of the issues with the privatisation seems to be it is either contracted out privatisation or privatisation which relies on public infrastructure. Either way it’s the worst of both worlds. When it comes to contracts it seems the government concentrated on cost not value (nor indeed whether the costs seem reasonable for the service). Companies bid low, and run into trouble. |
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