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By *rincessvenus OP   Couple  over a year ago

Hull

so those 2 were tourists hmm

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

The timing of the making public of this and their laughable denial has played out well for the maybot. Its as if the Russians are helping her cover up bad news because that way they can further destabilise the EU and the west for their own statistic gain.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The timing of the making public of this and their laughable denial has played out well for the maybot. Its as if the Russians are helping her cover up bad news because that way they can further destabilise the EU and the west for their own statistic gain. "

Another will² conspiracy theory!

The only laughable thing about this is your suggestion the Russians timed the broadcast to cover up bad news for May!

Next you'll be saying she is a Russian plant!

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"The timing of the making public of this and their laughable denial has played out well for the maybot. Its as if the Russians are helping her cover up bad news because that way they can further destabilise the EU and the west for their own statistic gain. "
lmfaooo you’ve took bullshit to a new level now

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"The timing of the making public of this and their laughable denial has played out well for the maybot. Its as if the Russians are helping her cover up bad news because that way they can further destabilise the EU and the west for their own statistic gain. lmfaooo you’ve took bullshit to a new level now "

Whilst it does sound a bit tin-foil-hat, do you have a better explanation on why the Russians are bankrolling Trump?

-Matt

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby

A bit tin foil you say then almost agree wtf

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"A bit tin foil you say then almost agree wtf "

Well the fact Trump has been bankrolled by the Russians is not even in dispute. But the timing of saying that they were 'on holiday' in order to cover up May's stuff... maybe a bit far fetched... but you never know these days.

-Matt

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"The timing of the making public of this and their laughable denial has played out well for the maybot. Its as if the Russians are helping her cover up bad news because that way they can further destabilise the EU and the west for their own statistic gain. "
How can this destablelise the west,you have a vivid imagination you should right a book

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"The timing of the making public of this and their laughable denial has played out well for the maybot. Its as if the Russians are helping her cover up bad news because that way they can further destabilise the EU and the west for their own statistic gain. How can this destablelise the west,you have a vivid imagination you should right a book"

Or you could just look out the window. Seems to be working pretty well so far

-Matt

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By *verysmileMan  over a year ago

Canterbury

They would make great tour guides. I for one, did not know that the spire of the cathedral was 123 metres high.......

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By *thlonedaddyMan  over a year ago

Athlone

Would ent be the first time you brits accused innocent people. Birmingham six . Guilford 4. Maguire 7

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So the 2nd Russian has been identified as a military doctor - and the Dutch have exposed another spy cell - So what does Putin do now? Donald has been surprisingly quiet? There's more to come out - what happens next?

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By *ary_ArgyllMan  over a year ago

Argyll

Probably depends whether these operatives are really under Kremlin control or have been allowed to go rogue.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Always makes me wonder how many Russians have been bumped off by British operatives

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"So the 2nd Russian has been identified as a military doctor - and the Dutch have exposed another spy cell - So what does Putin do now? Donald has been surprisingly quiet? There's more to come out - what happens next?"

the dutch incident was the most interesting for me.... basically catching them at it outside OPCW HQ whilst they were investigating both Salisbury and Douma, with a computer that had apparently been used with info outside WADA HQ (the russians drugs and sport enq), and the malaysian dept dealing with MH17 (where the russians shot down a civilian plane)

it was like a home run of all the russian plots tied up in one....

the russians have gotten so brazen they aren't even trying anymore...... which is why the US was forced to charge the 7 russians hours later

i love have the russians are calling this a "misunderstanding".....

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool

I stopped bothering reading into this russia stuff when it came out last week that russia was now to blame for the bad reception and negative reviews star wars the last jedi got and the failure of solo at box office.

Seems russia is the blame for every problem anywhere in the world if we believed everything the media comes out with.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


"I stopped bothering reading into this russia stuff when it came out last week that russia was now to blame for the bad reception and negative reviews star wars the last jedi got and the failure of solo at box office.

Seems russia is the blame for every problem anywhere in the world if we believed everything the media comes out with."

Yep, your so on the money. It's not as if by attacking anything and everything the Russians can undermine our faith in what our security services tell us they are up to. After all I can't see any possible reason for a totalitarian, expansionist, imperialistic regime to want to undermine the trust of the populations in potentially hostile states.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

Top class tradecraft mind, attack the softest of soft targets, openly interfere in elections in democratic countries, debase long-standing international sporting events, send assassins to foreign countries with the most transparent of covers. Then deny that they have done anything untoward claiming that they are the victims of a conspiracy (now who else is using that very same play-book?). And then sit back and let the the rot do its job.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

No former cy-ops KGB interrogator would come up with such a plan, clearly it would never work because the populations of western democracies are far too well educated and sophisticated to fall for such KGB era simplicity.

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


"Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that."


"Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that."

There you go, you have no idea what Russia did but you are unwilling to believe our (or the USA's) security services and police who tell you they did interfere, and I am sure you think that all the incitements already handed down and all the guilty pleas.

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.

There you go, you have no idea what Russia did but you are unwilling to believe our (or the USA's) security services and police who tell you they did interfere, and I am sure you think that all the incitements already handed down and all the guilty pleas. "

I'm telling you right now that russia had zero influence on my vote in Brexit.

Absolutely zero.

I can't speak for anyone else but i fail to see where or what they did during brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.

There you go, you have no idea what Russia did but you are unwilling to believe our (or the USA's) security services and police who tell you they did interfere, and I am sure you think that all the incitements already handed down and all the guilty pleas.

I'm telling you right now that russia had zero influence on my vote in Brexit.

Absolutely zero.

I can't speak for anyone else but i fail to see where or what they did during brexit.

"

When people can't accept they lost because they have worse ideas...

Blame Russian bots

It's getting so boring

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.

There you go, you have no idea what Russia did but you are unwilling to believe our (or the USA's) security services and police who tell you they did interfere, and I am sure you think that all the incitements already handed down and all the guilty pleas.

I'm telling you right now that russia had zero influence on my vote in Brexit.

Absolutely zero.

I can't speak for anyone else but i fail to see where or what they did during brexit.

"

*slow clap*

That is the point.

-Matt

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.

There you go, you have no idea what Russia did but you are unwilling to believe our (or the USA's) security services and police who tell you they did interfere, and I am sure you think that all the incitements already handed down and all the guilty pleas.

I'm telling you right now that russia had zero influence on my vote in Brexit.

Absolutely zero.

I can't speak for anyone else but i fail to see where or what they did during brexit.

*slow clap*

That is the point.

-Matt"

Haha so you think russia was to blame that people voted for brexit? Really?

I think it is you that deserves the golf clap

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


"Haha so you think russia was to blame that people voted for brexit? Really?

I think it is you that deserves the golf clap "

I have read enough to understand what a powerful tool data analytics's combined with individually tailored political adds are especially when used for opposition suppression. I also know enough to know that unless others get to see your private on-line accounts (and the adds/mails/links you (I and everybody) receive while on line we will never know when we are being targeted or why we are being targeted (and it is not all done so bobs pizza gets to deliver us a bit of overpriced crap in a box).

But hey, I'm a thick easily manipulated lefty europhile who voted leave because I hate everything successful, and you are a super smart brexiteer who knew exactly what he was voting for (by the way what was that and what is the NI answer?) who can never be manipulated.

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Haha so you think russia was to blame that people voted for brexit? Really?

I think it is you that deserves the golf clap

I have read enough to understand what a powerful tool data analytics's combined with individually tailored political adds are especially when used for opposition suppression. I also know enough to know that unless others get to see your private on-line accounts (and the adds/mails/links you (I and everybody) receive while on line we will never know when we are being targeted or why we are being targeted (and it is not all done so bobs pizza gets to deliver us a bit of overpriced crap in a box).

But hey, I'm a thick easily manipulated lefty europhile who voted leave because I hate everything successful, and you are a super smart brexiteer who knew exactly what he was voting for (by the way what was that and what is the NI answer?) who can never be manipulated. "

I didn't vote for brexit haha

I simply said russia had absolutely no influence on the way i voted.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I personally like vlad

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I personally like vlad"

Best vampire ever ..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Haha so you think russia was to blame that people voted for brexit? Really?

I think it is you that deserves the golf clap

I have read enough to understand what a powerful tool data analytics's combined with individually tailored political adds are especially when used for opposition suppression. I also know enough to know that unless others get to see your private on-line accounts (and the adds/mails/links you (I and everybody) receive while on line we will never know when we are being targeted or why we are being targeted (and it is not all done so bobs pizza gets to deliver us a bit of overpriced crap in a box).

But hey, I'm a thick easily manipulated lefty europhile who voted leave because I hate everything successful, and you are a super smart brexiteer who knew exactly what he was voting for (by the way what was that and what is the NI answer?) who can never be manipulated.

I didn't vote for brexit haha

I simply said russia had absolutely no influence on the way i voted.

"

honestly ... I can’t say this. I don’t think anybody had an influence.... and if they tried I did enough wiser thinking to counterbalance this .... but who really knows what affects our subconscious decision making ...

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"I personally like vlad

Best vampire ever .. "

pmsl quality bob

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.

There you go, you have no idea what Russia did but you are unwilling to believe our (or the USA's) security services and police who tell you they did interfere, and I am sure you think that all the incitements already handed down and all the guilty pleas.

I'm telling you right now that russia had zero influence on my vote in Brexit.

Absolutely zero.

I can't speak for anyone else but i fail to see where or what they did during brexit.

*slow clap*

That is the point.

-Matt

Haha so you think russia was to blame that people voted for brexit? Really?

I think it is you that deserves the golf clap "

No, I don't think they are 'to blame' for it. But I certainly think they influenced it. For the same reasons they put Trump in the Whitehouse, to sow discord. Considering vote leave hired Cambridge Analytica to help them, and their parent company SCL is founded by someone who *literally* had a stall at an arms fair showcasing how they could use the media to manipulate the public as a part of warfare, I don't think it is too much of a stretch of the imagination to realise the Russians have been doing it too.

-Matt

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.Makes me laugh when people say russia interfered in the US elections or Brexit.

As if russia made hillary do all the things that she did (deleting all those thousands of emails, rigging the DNC in her favour instead of sanders).

Just because wikileaks exposed all her lies and decpetion which assange said it wasnt russia it was someone on the inside that gave them the info.

But even if it was russia.

Hilary still did everything that she did and she was her own undoing why trump was elected not russia haha.

And as for brexit ive no idea what part russia apparently played in that.

There you go, you have no idea what Russia did but you are unwilling to believe our (or the USA's) security services and police who tell you they did interfere, and I am sure you think that all the incitements already handed down and all the guilty pleas.

I'm telling you right now that russia had zero influence on my vote in Brexit.

Absolutely zero.

I can't speak for anyone else but i fail to see where or what they did during brexit.

*slow clap*

That is the point.

-Matt

Haha so you think russia was to blame that people voted for brexit? Really?

I think it is you that deserves the golf clap

No, I don't think they are 'to blame' for it. But I certainly think they influenced it. For the same reasons they put Trump in the Whitehouse, to sow discord. Considering vote leave hired Cambridge Analytica to help them, and their parent company SCL is founded by someone who *literally* had a stall at an arms fair showcasing how they could use the media to manipulate the public as a part of warfare, I don't think it is too much of a stretch of the imagination to realise the Russians have been doing it too.

-Matt"

You say that russia put trump in the white house.

Well in all fairness i think the democrats actually put trump in the white house.

I honestly believe bernie sanders would have been voted in if he wasnt sabotaged by the democrats as they wanted Hilary as their candidate.

Then as everyone knows wikileaks exposed all her lies and deceptions and made them public (which wasnt lies and was all facts and with evidance).

So why wouldnt the americans vote in the lesser of two evils.

I dont think thats russia influencing them.

If it was even russia which gave the info to wikileaks which wikileaks denies then they still did the public a favour, i know if i was an american i would have wanted to know all those things that came out about Hillary, and its not like hilary and her team wasnt dishing out all their dirt on trump.

It was a messy campaign and out of the two candidates the right person won.

But that was all down to Hillary and the democrats own doing.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"The timing of the making public of this and their laughable denial has played out well for the maybot. Its as if the Russians are helping her cover up bad news because that way they can further destabilise the EU and the west for their own statistic gain. lmfaooo you’ve took bullshit to a new level now "

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