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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe just maybe, he’s the good guy?"
Who? The Rat? Of course he is, he's making official everything 99% of the world's population had already suspected. Plus, the entertainment value is priceless  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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oooh... a semi serious topic... this wont last long...
spoke about this with my other politics "gonks"
I reckon it is pence....
the general consensus was it was dan coats (head of the NSA)
although one of my female friends did put forward a very good case for kellyanne conway |
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Whoever it is, they are actively working against the UK's interests. You can dislike Trump all day long but the US is an ally of the UK and anyone working against their democracy should be viewed as an enemy of the UK.
The fact the UK has not taken this view means whoever it is, is in CIA or NSA, as they would have told five eyes not to act about it. UK is part of five eyes and would have had the media spin it as the person being a traitor. |
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"Whoever it is, they are actively working against the UK's interests. You can dislike Trump all day long but the US is an ally of the UK and anyone working against their democracy should be viewed as an enemy of the UK.
The fact the UK has not taken this view means whoever it is, is in CIA or NSA, as they would have told five eyes not to act about it. UK is part of five eyes and would have had the media spin it as the person being a traitor."
A military ally when it suits them, but always a trading enemy. There is no ‘special relationship ‘ at official level and they think us wankers for believing that.
Where’s Hugh Grant when you need him?
There is of course a very special relationship culturaly and through family ties etc. |
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"A military ally when it suits them, but always a trading enemy. There is no ‘special relationship ‘ at official level and they think us wankers for believing that.
Where’s Hugh Grant when you need him?
There is of course a very special relationship culturaly and through family ties etc."
The special relationship, always, 100% exists, it just flows in the direction of America. They think the UK are wankers when the UK think it flows both ways. But UK is beholden to the US.
The UK admits they are a paid up member of five eyes and bow to all American requests at all times. All five eye countries do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They always say follow the money or in this case who has the most to gain from Trumps downfall...???
Pence i would say in my humble opinion is that man.. |
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Whomever it is, their not a rat, their not a traitor, and their most definitely not alone! Even the Generals at the Pentagon are keeping Trump in check, and it's a good thing they are!
Trump threw a temper tantrum and told the Pentagon Generals he wanted 30,000 new nuclear weapons built, and they told him no way!
He has done and tried to do many many things that are not ethical or moral, and the sooner he is out of office, the better for everyone !
Trump is not a republican, he's not a democrat, he's not an independent, but he is most definitely a want to be Dictator ! |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Whomever it is, their not a rat, their not a traitor, and their most definitely not alone! Even the Generals at the Pentagon are keeping Trump in check, and it's a good thing they are!
Trump threw a temper tantrum and told the Pentagon Generals he wanted 30,000 new nuclear weapons built, and they told him no way!
He has done and tried to do many many things that are not ethical or moral, and the sooner he is out of office, the better for everyone !
Trump is not a republican, he's not a democrat, he's not an independent, but he is most definitely a want to be Dictator !"
you heard him did you ? Im no fan of him but the voters liked him more than clinton, if he is as you describe him then Im sure he would have sacked the generals that point blank refused an order from the chief, in fact they would have been court martialed |
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you heard him did you ? Im no fan of him but the voters liked him more than clinton,"
You do know he lost the popular vote by 3,000,000 don't you? And that because of GOP gerrymandering the Dems need to win the popular vote by around 11 points to take control of the House and Senate?
"if he is as you describe him then Im sure he would have sacked the generals that point blank refused an order from the chief, in fact they would have been court martialed"
The generals have not refused to obey any lawful orders. The have refused to obey unlawful orders that have not been delivered through the correct chain of command, that is not the same thing. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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you heard him did you ? Im no fan of him but the voters liked him more than clinton,
You do know he lost the popular vote by 3,000,000 don't you? And that because of GOP gerrymandering the Dems need to win the popular vote by around 11 points to take control of the House and Senate?
if he is as you describe him then Im sure he would have sacked the generals that point blank refused an order from the chief, in fact they would have been court martialed
The generals have not refused to obey any lawful orders. The have refused to obey unlawful orders that have not been delivered through the correct chain of command, that is not the same thing."
Yes thats a fair point about clinton getting more votes but thats the system they use, its happened here where the party coming second in seats wins more votes,is it right? no but you can only go with the system you have, of course with brexit we now are seeing people complain about results that dont go their way instead of campaigning to change the system.
If he hasnt given orders in the prescribed way then thats his fault. Im no fan of trump but as I have said many times he won, so what does that say about clinton and how millions of US voters view her, surely if he is as bad as many like to make out a chimp could have beaten him.
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