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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
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"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
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Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get! |
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"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!"
They won't be a burden on the NHS for long .Once they see the price of property here compared to France they'll have a heart attack.
I would imagine now would be a good time to put a silly offer on property owned by desperate ex pats .Always a silver lining for someone .  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I presume then that any French who may be residing in the uk will have the same told to them then ?  "
suspect it’s pensioners only. Tho haven’t read the story to know it’s details |
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"I presume then that any French who may be residing in the uk will have the same told to them then ? suspect it’s pensioners only. Tho haven’t read the story to know it’s details "
Yes it's only OAP's. Most French in the UK will be working - but there could be some pensioners. |
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over a year ago
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David Davis said in 2017 negotiators have agreed to maintain reciprocal healthcare for British and EU retirees affected by Brexit.
What a difference a year makes
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/31/brexit-healthcare-deal-is-good-news-for-pensioners
Has this agreement gone tits up.?
I know Davis was an liar and an imbecile .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"David Davis said in 2017 negotiators have agreed to maintain reciprocal healthcare for British and EU retirees affected by Brexit.
What a difference a year makes
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/31/brexit-healthcare-deal-is-good-news-for-pensioners
Has this agreement gone tits up.?
I know Davis was an liar and an imbecile .
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This is based on a no deal brexit. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. The big problem is the Irish border. The UK wants to take back control of its borders. But at the same time so do the EU - but that's wrong of them!
Apart from the smuggling aspect - and the UK is currently in court for €2bn smuggling by Chinese imports from the UK to the EU!
As both sides have red lines on the Irish border it's not going to result the withdrawal agreement and therefore no future trade deal Trump is about to fuck up WTO so it's going to be a free for all. A bit like Tesco v the corner shop! |
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"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!"
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact"
Believe it or not some voted for it so it's a bit like a Turkey voting for Xmas! |
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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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The most bizarre thing I saw during the referendum was English migrants in Spain being interviewed on the telly, saying they had left the UK because they did not like so many migrants in the UK and would be voting leave. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
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Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact"
Except of course for the fact that they could apply for dual citizenship if they have been living in france for five years(less in some circumstances).
Perhaps some of you gloom and doom merchants need to work a bit harder on research |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact
Except of course for the fact that they could apply for dual citizenship if they have been living in france for five years(less in some circumstances).
Perhaps some of you gloom and doom merchants need to work a bit harder on research"
Acquired rights don't apply until 5 years residence has been achieved. They could apply for citizenship the process takes about 2 years - considering we have less than 7 months that's not going to work. Citizenship requires a certain level of French, knowledge and also income requirements! Fully researched this end as a migrant living in France. |
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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago
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"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact
Believe it or not some voted for it so it's a bit like a Turkey voting for Xmas! "
. I believe the majority voted for it,more bullshit from the foreigners abroad |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact
Believe it or not some voted for it so it's a bit like a Turkey voting for Xmas! . I believe the majority voted for it,more bullshit from the foreigners abroad "
Think you missed the point - it's about British living in France voting for brexit who are now being told their healthcare ceases here on 29/3/19 - not about the referendum vote. |
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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago
lytham st.annes |
"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact
Believe it or not some voted for it so it's a bit like a Turkey voting for Xmas! . I believe the majority voted for it,more bullshit from the foreigners abroad
Think you missed the point - it's about British living in France voting for brexit who are now being told their healthcare ceases here on 29/3/19 - not about the referendum vote."
I think you missed the point,if they voted for Brexit,they won’t be bothered |
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"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact
Believe it or not some voted for it so it's a bit like a Turkey voting for Xmas! . I believe the majority voted for it,more bullshit from the foreigners abroad
Think you missed the point - it's about British living in France voting for brexit who are now being told their healthcare ceases here on 29/3/19 - not about the referendum vote. I think you missed the point,if they voted for Brexit,they won’t be bothered "
Why? Surely if one is residing in another EU country or were at the time of the referendum one might be bothered in the possible outcomes of out?
Unless of course there has been or will be a lot of brits abroad coming or planning to come back? |
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"Part one of the EU/UK exit agreement was an undertaking, in the event of UK and EU being unable to agree anything, that Northern Ireland would remain in the customs union.
UK has declared NI will be the same as rest of UK, come what may.
In effect, therefore, the UK remains in the customs union in the event of a no deal.
Unless the UK reneges on the commitment to Dublin and Brussels.
Can you imagine that?
What sort of country would we be living in then?
When you say something and do another.
What do you think will happen.
I suspect all the rhetoric will go to the 11th hour. . . and then UK will sign up to everything it already has, except as a non member.
It cannot afford to allow any petrol back on the NI bonfire. The flames could easily spread.
Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact
Believe it or not some voted for it so it's a bit like a Turkey voting for Xmas! . I believe the majority voted for it,more bullshit from the foreigners abroad
Think you missed the point - it's about British living in France voting for brexit who are now being told their healthcare ceases here on 29/3/19 - not about the referendum vote. I think you missed the point,if they voted for Brexit,they won’t be bothered "
Oh right I see your point - glad to see them go then - sooner the better!  |
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The Conservative party has consistently shown themselves to be riven with fierce arguments and in-fighting through Brexit, hobbling from one crisis to the next, almost arriving at deadlines and essential points as if they'd been unaware of, nor didn't understand them.
And they've had people publicly talk of agreements as if they were to be modified at the UK's whim.
Those supporting no deal, the harshest of outcomes of any for the UK, are minority special interest extremists, happy to shit on your future prospects and wellbeing, to get what they want. They are a minority of a minority there but could stick the knife in at the last minute - and will almost certainly do so.
The backstop options could result in the Conservatives trying to impose a differential customs status in NI, avoiding it for the whole of the UK - to appease the extremists.
I think it's clear that the real details of what the UK will get will be quite uncertain come March 19, with the precise information rolling out much later - long after the sovereignty of parliament should have had this, in order to vote whether to accept that or not.
It's a mess, as much of the 'progress' to date could have been made much quicker. Parliament will have a gun to its head at the 11th hour, pushing it to accept an outline solution that is riddled with holes and jeopardizing the future success of the UK, alongside continuity of the Irish peace process. |
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"The Conservative party has consistently shown themselves to be riven with fierce arguments and in-fighting through Brexit, hobbling from one crisis to the next, almost arriving at deadlines and essential points as if they'd been unaware of, nor didn't understand them.
And they've had people publicly talk of agreements as if they were to be modified at the UK's whim.
Those supporting no deal, the harshest of outcomes of any for the UK, are minority special interest extremists, happy to shit on your future prospects and wellbeing, to get what they want. They are a minority of a minority there but could stick the knife in at the last minute - and will almost certainly do so.
The backstop options could result in the Conservatives trying to impose a differential customs status in NI, avoiding it for the whole of the UK - to appease the extremists.
I think it's clear that the real details of what the UK will get will be quite uncertain come March 19, with the precise information rolling out much later - long after the sovereignty of parliament should have had this, in order to vote whether to accept that or not.
It's a mess, as much of the 'progress' to date could have been made much quicker. Parliament will have a gun to its head at the 11th hour, pushing it to accept an outline solution that is riddled with holes and jeopardizing the future success of the UK, alongside continuity of the Irish peace process. "
Said by a Labour supporter of a Labour party which have consistently shown themselves to be riven with fierce arguments and in fighting through Brexit, hobbling from one crisis to the next. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
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Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact
Except of course for the fact that they could apply for dual citizenship if they have been living in france for five years(less in some circumstances).
Perhaps some of you gloom and doom merchants need to work a bit harder on research
Acquired rights don't apply until 5 years residence has been achieved. They could apply for citizenship the process takes about 2 years - considering we have less than 7 months that's not going to work. Citizenship requires a certain level of French, knowledge and also income requirements! Fully researched this end as a migrant living in France. "
Everyone will have had over two years since the vote to get themselves sorted by the time we leave, perhaps they should have got off their arses and got it done if they were worried, surely anyone who lives in a foreign country for five years would have learnt the language, if you work then you be expected to and if retired you have plenty of time, french isnt that hard to pick up and again if yoy can afford to live their finance shouldnt be a problem.
Of course lots of Brits go abroad to live in little enclaves and want warm beer and fish and chips, they want to live like theyre brits but with better weather |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"The Conservative party has consistently shown themselves to be riven with fierce arguments and in-fighting through Brexit, hobbling from one crisis to the next, almost arriving at deadlines and essential points as if they'd been unaware of, nor didn't understand them.
And they've had people publicly talk of agreements as if they were to be modified at the UK's whim.
Those supporting no deal, the harshest of outcomes of any for the UK, are minority special interest extremists, happy to shit on your future prospects and wellbeing, to get what they want. They are a minority of a minority there but could stick the knife in at the last minute - and will almost certainly do so.
The backstop options could result in the Conservatives trying to impose a differential customs status in NI, avoiding it for the whole of the UK - to appease the extremists.
I think it's clear that the real details of what the UK will get will be quite uncertain come March 19, with the precise information rolling out much later - long after the sovereignty of parliament should have had this, in order to vote whether to accept that or not.
It's a mess, as much of the 'progress' to date could have been made much quicker. Parliament will have a gun to its head at the 11th hour, pushing it to accept an outline solution that is riddled with holes and jeopardizing the future success of the UK, alongside continuity of the Irish peace process.
Said by a Labour supporter of a Labour party which have consistently shown themselves to be riven with fierce arguments and in fighting through Brexit, hobbling from one crisis to the next. "
Said by a UKIP supporter.... enough said
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
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Well the French government are writing to all the Brits who have retired here and on an S1 healthcare package (uk govt pay their healthcare - well 70% of it), and informing them their cover will cease on 29/3/19. Poor old folks must be stressed out of their minds at the thought of having to sell up for whatever they can get!
bit by bit, project fear turns to project fact
Except of course for the fact that they could apply for dual citizenship if they have been living in france for five years(less in some circumstances).
Perhaps some of you gloom and doom merchants need to work a bit harder on research
Acquired rights don't apply until 5 years residence has been achieved. They could apply for citizenship the process takes about 2 years - considering we have less than 7 months that's not going to work. Citizenship requires a certain level of French, knowledge and also income requirements! Fully researched this end as a migrant living in France.
Everyone will have had over two years since the vote to get themselves sorted by the time we leave, perhaps they should have got off their arses and got it done if they were worried, surely anyone who lives in a foreign country for five years would have learnt the language, if you work then you be expected to and if retired you have plenty of time, french isnt that hard to pick up and again if yoy can afford to live their finance shouldnt be a problem.
Of course lots of Brits go abroad to live in little enclaves and want warm beer and fish and chips, they want to live like theyre brits but with better weather"
Two years since the vote perhaps, but not two years since the requirements were made clear. I have colleagues here in the UK in the opposite situation, Spanish living and working in the UK. They are having to now shell out thousands of pounds to go through various processes to ensure that they are their kids (who were born here) are going to be OK to stay here. You wouldn't go through that unless you needed to, so unless the requirements are clear, it is a concern.
-Matt |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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Two years since the vote perhaps, but not two years since the requirements were made clear. I have colleagues here in the UK in the opposite situation, Spanish living and working in the UK. They are having to now shell out thousands of pounds to go through various processes to ensure that they are their kids (who were born here) are going to be OK to stay here. You wouldn't go through that unless you needed to, so unless the requirements are clear, it is a concern.
-Matt"
What are they spending "thousands" on? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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Two years since the vote perhaps, but not two years since the requirements were made clear. I have colleagues here in the UK in the opposite situation, Spanish living and working in the UK. They are having to now shell out thousands of pounds to go through various processes to ensure that they are their kids (who were born here) are going to be OK to stay here. You wouldn't go through that unless you needed to, so unless the requirements are clear, it is a concern.
-Matt
What are they spending "thousands" on?"
Mainly the process to get their kids registered the stay here. I can't remember the exact paperwork or his situation, but I remember him saying a figure of £2,400, but I seem to recall that wasn't to total.
Random, first thing online I've found in the Independent on it says:
"The cost of applying for British citizenship for a child is £1,102, despite the administrative cost being just £372. A ‘leave to remain’ application for an adult or child, which grants two-and-a-half years of UK status, costs £1,033 per person, with an immigration health surcharge of £500 on top of this."
He has two kids and a wife, so sounds like yes, it would be a few thousand pounds.
-Matt |
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Two years since the vote perhaps, but not two years since the requirements were made clear. I have colleagues here in the UK in the opposite situation, Spanish living and working in the UK. They are having to now shell out thousands of pounds to go through various processes to ensure that they are their kids (who were born here) are going to be OK to stay here. You wouldn't go through that unless you needed to, so unless the requirements are clear, it is a concern.
-Matt
What are they spending "thousands" on?
Mainly the process to get their kids registered the stay here. I can't remember the exact paperwork or his situation, but I remember him saying a figure of £2,400, but I seem to recall that wasn't to total.
Random, first thing online I've found in the Independent on it says:
"The cost of applying for British citizenship for a child is £1,102, despite the administrative cost being just £372. A ‘leave to remain’ application for an adult or child, which grants two-and-a-half years of UK status, costs £1,033 per person, with an immigration health surcharge of £500 on top of this."
He has two kids and a wife, so sounds like yes, it would be a few thousand pounds.
-Matt"
Well here in France the first step is applying for a carte de sejour permanent. You only qualify for this once you have completed 5 yrs residency! Less than 5 yrs you need a temporary CdS. The French requirement is that:
1. Sufficient income / capital
2. Medical cover
3. Crb check
Like all things in France there are numerous steps in each category! For example your English pensions have got to by translated by an approved translator - 5 years worth! You have to have been registered with the French Impots (HMRC) - for 5 years. They want proof of address for the 5 years. It goes on and on. A couple of trees have gone in producing it all as it's got to be originals and a duplicate. Translation costs for us have been 1400€ so far!
Our dossiers have been lodged for 2 months now. Then once that's done applying for citizenship takes about 2 years. Who knows what that costs, but one step at a time! |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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Two years since the vote perhaps, but not two years since the requirements were made clear. I have colleagues here in the UK in the opposite situation, Spanish living and working in the UK. They are having to now shell out thousands of pounds to go through various processes to ensure that they are their kids (who were born here) are going to be OK to stay here. You wouldn't go through that unless you needed to, so unless the requirements are clear, it is a concern.
-Matt
What are they spending "thousands" on?
Mainly the process to get their kids registered the stay here. I can't remember the exact paperwork or his situation, but I remember him saying a figure of £2,400, but I seem to recall that wasn't to total.
Random, first thing online I've found in the Independent on it says:
"The cost of applying for British citizenship for a child is £1,102, despite the administrative cost being just £372. A ‘leave to remain’ application for an adult or child, which grants two-and-a-half years of UK status, costs £1,033 per person, with an immigration health surcharge of £500 on top of this."
He has two kids and a wife, so sounds like yes, it would be a few thousand pounds.
-Matt
Well here in France the first step is applying for a carte de sejour permanent. You only qualify for this once you have completed 5 yrs residency! Less than 5 yrs you need a temporary CdS. The French requirement is that:
1. Sufficient income / capital
2. Medical cover
3. Crb check
Like all things in France there are numerous steps in each category! For example your English pensions have got to by translated by an approved translator - 5 years worth! You have to have been registered with the French Impots (HMRC) - for 5 years. They want proof of address for the 5 years. It goes on and on. A couple of trees have gone in producing it all as it's got to be originals and a duplicate. Translation costs for us have been 1400€ so far!
Our dossiers have been lodged for 2 months now. Then once that's done applying for citizenship takes about 2 years. Who knows what that costs, but one step at a time!"
Isnt it easier to go for citizenship rather than have to do that every ten years?
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Two years since the vote perhaps, but not two years since the requirements were made clear. I have colleagues here in the UK in the opposite situation, Spanish living and working in the UK. They are having to now shell out thousands of pounds to go through various processes to ensure that they are their kids (who were born here) are going to be OK to stay here. You wouldn't go through that unless you needed to, so unless the requirements are clear, it is a concern.
-Matt
What are they spending "thousands" on?
Mainly the process to get their kids registered the stay here. I can't remember the exact paperwork or his situation, but I remember him saying a figure of £2,400, but I seem to recall that wasn't to total.
Random, first thing online I've found in the Independent on it says:
"The cost of applying for British citizenship for a child is £1,102, despite the administrative cost being just £372. A ‘leave to remain’ application for an adult or child, which grants two-and-a-half years of UK status, costs £1,033 per person, with an immigration health surcharge of £500 on top of this."
He has two kids and a wife, so sounds like yes, it would be a few thousand pounds.
-Matt
Well here in France the first step is applying for a carte de sejour permanent. You only qualify for this once you have completed 5 yrs residency! Less than 5 yrs you need a temporary CdS. The French requirement is that:
1. Sufficient income / capital
2. Medical cover
3. Crb check
Like all things in France there are numerous steps in each category! For example your English pensions have got to by translated by an approved translator - 5 years worth! You have to have been registered with the French Impots (HMRC) - for 5 years. They want proof of address for the 5 years. It goes on and on. A couple of trees have gone in producing it all as it's got to be originals and a duplicate. Translation costs for us have been 1400€ so far!
Our dossiers have been lodged for 2 months now. Then once that's done applying for citizenship takes about 2 years. Who knows what that costs, but one step at a time!
Isnt it easier to go for citizenship rather than have to do that every ten years?
Got to love all the bureaucracy governments have "
Need residency first - citizenship is step 2! France is a country where why have 1 sheet of paper when you can have 10! Love the country, people, culture, climate ect so it's a price to pay. |
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