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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago
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I was waiting to see if any brexiters were going to post about the report from Dover council about a 13 mile lorry park which could last for years on the M20.
In 2015 when problems arose, it cost the British economy an estimated £250m PER DAY. This is not expected to last hours or days, for example when it's used due to bad weather affecting crossings, this is expected to last for YEARS. Years at a rate of £250m a day!
Of course this is the plan for a 13 mile stretch, but port officials say that customs checks from non-EU Countries currently take 5-45 minutes per vehicle. And that if the average increases by as little as 2 minutes per vehicle, that will lead to tailbacks as far as 17 miles.
I highly doubt this ever mounting evidence of the detrimental effects of Brexit will have any effect on Brexiters, other than of course further exercising their powers of cognitive dissonance to believe that Brexit is still a good idea!
Operation Brock 'lorry park' on M20 'could last years' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-45021133 |
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Bring it on!
The sooner every 'working class, eurosceptic Tory' is forced by hunger to face the reality that far from the EU being the enemy they are our friends and the real enemy has been squatting in Downing St for the past 38 years! |
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We live nr Dover so yes problems ...but with britex or not we still have tailbacks....a good time for the local council to put pressure on the government to press for the money for the m20 lorry park that has supposed to happen years ago.... |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I was waiting to see if any brexiters were going to post about the report from Dover council about a 13 mile lorry park which could last for years on the M20.
In 2015 when problems arose, it cost the British economy an estimated £250m PER DAY. This is not expected to last hours or days, for example when it's used due to bad weather affecting crossings, this is expected to last for YEARS. Years at a rate of £250m a day!
Of course this is the plan for a 13 mile stretch, but port officials say that customs checks from non-EU Countries currently take 5-45 minutes per vehicle. And that if the average increases by as little as 2 minutes per vehicle, that will lead to tailbacks as far as 17 miles.
I highly doubt this ever mounting evidence of the detrimental effects of Brexit will have any effect on Brexiters, other than of course further exercising their powers of cognitive dissonance to believe that Brexit is still a good idea!
Operation Brock 'lorry park' on M20 'could last years' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-45021133"
ot on this point exactly but have you seen an article in the Gaurdian by Jonathan Lis as to why we will not just walk away,it is very good.
I know you will ask for the ref but cannot give it to you as it is from the paper and due to adblocks cannot read newspapers online.
Anyway if you can take a look it includes your point here as to why we will never have a no deal |
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over a year ago
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Or KCC could just build the lorry park they have been promising to build for years. In every election campaign and whenever there is op stack on. Time to empty those pockets and get on with it instead of squabbling like children.
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Anyone heading south on the M1 at night will have seen the massive lorry queues, as they head towards Dover. I’m not talking about something I have witnessed many times, and the last time I saw it was a long time before I had even heard the word BREXIT.
I think things will have gone badly wrong if the amount of business going towards our major ports was to stop. It might be a nightmare, but it is still a sign that the UK is still trading.
The govt could and should help get things moving, and the lorry park would help. |
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"Or KCC could just build the lorry park they have been promising to build for years. In every election campaign and whenever there is op stack on. Time to empty those pockets and get on with it instead of squabbling like children.
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Highways England not KCC |
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"Anyone heading south on the M1 at night will have seen the massive lorry queues, as they head towards Dover. I’m not talking about something I have witnessed many times, and the last time I saw it was a long time before I had even heard the word BREXIT.
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Bottlenecks at Dartford crossing Clackets and Bean before there's a chance to tailback on the M20. |
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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Anyone heading south on the M1 at night will have seen the massive lorry queues, as they head towards Dover. I’m not talking about something I have witnessed many times, and the last time I saw it was a long time before I had even heard the word BREXIT.
I think things will have gone badly wrong if the amount of business going towards our major ports was to stop. It might be a nightmare, but it is still a sign that the UK is still trading.
The govt could and should help get things moving, and the lorry park would help."
Do you think Brexit will make it better, or worse? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Bottlenecks at Dartford crossing Clackets and Bean before there's a chance to tailback on the M20."
Dartford crossing is already a nightmare
Expand parking at clacket, bean, Medway, Maidstone services as well as building the promised lorry park and there shouldn’t be a issue. Unless ofcourse lorry drivers ignore the warning and just pile onto the m20 to gain the extra miles.
Isn’t it about time we just get it done? Surely some tarmac, loos, a couple of shops and some fencing can’t cost that much! |
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Perhaps some of the Kent population will be grateful for the EU pollution standards that have been in place, although thousands of deaths each year are lost due to the government only partly complying. Post Brexit, it's going to be an opportunity to increase Kent residents availability of emissions products, even if there is a scarcity of fresh products in the stores, due to queues and waiting times. |
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"Bring it on!
The sooner every 'working class, eurosceptic Tory' is forced by hunger to face the reality that far from the EU being the enemy they are our friends and the real enemy has been squatting in Downing St for the past 38 years!"
I guess at that point we can throw ourselves onto inflatable lilos, aim at Calais, and wait for the EU to save us... |
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"I guess at that point we can throw ourselves onto inflatable lilos, aim at Calais, and wait for the EU to save us... "
It is clear you have never sailed across the Dover Straits in a small boat. LoL |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Anyone heading south on the M1 at night will have seen the massive lorry queues, as they head towards Dover. I’m not talking about something I have witnessed many times, and the last time I saw it was a long time before I had even heard the word BREXIT.
I think things will have gone badly wrong if the amount of business going towards our major ports was to stop. It might be a nightmare, but it is still a sign that the UK is still trading.
The govt could and should help get things moving, and the lorry park would help."
Yes the government should help. Here is an idea, how about the government negotiate some kind of common market with common standards and tarrifs such that the lorries can pass through faster? Just a thought. Radical, I know.
-Matt |
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We could just do the following. Wave as many foreign trucks through as we possibly can starting on the 26th of March. Boris and David can be there in their yellow High viz jackets.
When the french play silly buggers on the 29th March when we leave with no deal and cause an almighty queue at our end and people get a bit arsy about it because they can't get home maybe a deal will be struck then LOL.
Just a thought. Radical I know. |
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"We could just do the following. Wave as many foreign trucks through as we possibly can starting on the 26th of March. Boris and David can be there in their yellow High viz jackets.
When the french play silly buggers on the 29th March when we leave with no deal and cause an almighty queue at our end and people get a bit arsy about it because they can't get home maybe a deal will be struck then LOL.
Just a thought. Radical I know."
We'll be acting like French farmers next! |
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I guess at that point we can throw ourselves onto inflatable lilos, aim at Calais, and wait for the EU to save us... "
The Coastguard won't thank you
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-44694062 |
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