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By *oi_Lucy OP Couple
over a year ago
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"these things happen"
Is the response by ex-Kipper Bill Mountford to the murder of Anne Searle by Kipper-husband Stephen Searle.
Right. Of course.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-44861508
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I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive."
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive."
Spot on Will, there is no connection other than some people would like to blame Brexit for everything!  |
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive."
The response that's absolutely ghoulish is being given by an ex-ukip member in defense of someone who is a ukip member.
So, yeah. That the political affiliation isn't important is pretty naïve. |
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"The response that's absolutely ghoulish is being given by an ex-ukip member in defense of someone who is a ukip member.
So, yeah. That the political affiliation isn't important is pretty naïve."
Really?
It was not a politically motivated murder. Therefore regardless of the politics of the murderer or any of his apologist it is not a political matter and politics should not be brought into it and doing so potentially corrupts justice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive.
Spot on Will, there is no connection other than some people would like to blame Brexit for everything! "
That's about right. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive.
Spot on Will, there is no connection other than some people would like to blame Brexit for everything!
That's about right. "
Except that no one has blamed this on Brexit
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By *oi_Lucy OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive.
Spot on Will, there is no connection other than some people would like to blame Brexit for everything! "
Not everything is about Brexit. Nothing has been mentioned about Brexit in this thread so far.
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By *oi_Lucy OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The response that's absolutely ghoulish is being given by an ex-ukip member in defense of someone who is a ukip member.
So, yeah. That the political affiliation isn't important is pretty naïve.
Really?
It was not a politically motivated murder. Therefore regardless of the politics of the murderer or any of his apologist it is not a political matter and politics should not be brought into it and doing so potentially corrupts justice. "
Their politics have nothing to do with the murder. I totally agree.
But I think that one party member coming out and saying "Well, these thing happen" about another party member of the same party says a lot about the particular worldview of that person.
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""these things happen"
Is the response by ex-Kipper Bill Mountford to the murder of Anne Searle by Kipper-husband Stephen Searle.
Right. Of course.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-44861508
-Matt"
This is a tragedy both for the lady who lost her life and her husband who will now spend the rest of his life in jail. I cannot imagine that devastation that it will have on other family members .
It is a post that is in very poor taste and it is hardly appropriate to use a murder as an attempt to score points. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It is true that these things happen, unfortunately. This was obviously a tragic domestic triangle that has ended in a disgusting murder. But the murderer is what he is, a murderer. The fact that he was a member of UKIP has nothing to do with it, and was definitely not the motive.
It is a great shame, but there are murderers out there, and they come from every walk of life. One day perhaps psychiatrists will be able to identify these people before they commit their crime, and the victims will all be saved. But their findings will have nothing to do with political orientation. Evil is evil, end of... |
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"It is true that these things happen, unfortunately. This was obviously a tragic domestic triangle that has ended in a disgusting murder. But the murderer is what he is, a murderer. The fact that he was a member of UKIP has nothing to do with it, and was definitely not the motive.
It is a great shame, but there are murderers out there, and they come from every walk of life. One day perhaps psychiatrists will be able to identify these people before they commit their crime, and the victims will all be saved. But their findings will have nothing to do with political orientation. Evil is evil, end of..."
Agree, history is littered with crimes committed by politicians from all political parties. Geoffrey Archer famously served time in jail for his crimes and recently Hugh Grant played the disgraced Liberal party MP Jeremy Thorpe in the docudrama 'A very English scandal' about his attempted murder of his secret lover. Wrong is wrong the political party they come from is irrelevant and trying to score political points on the back of it is pretty cheap. |
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By *oi_Lucy OP Couple
over a year ago
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"It is true that these things happen, unfortunately. This was obviously a tragic domestic triangle that has ended in a disgusting murder. But the murderer is what he is, a murderer. The fact that he was a member of UKIP has nothing to do with it, and was definitely not the motive.
It is a great shame, but there are murderers out there, and they come from every walk of life. One day perhaps psychiatrists will be able to identify these people before they commit their crime, and the victims will all be saved. But their findings will have nothing to do with political orientation. Evil is evil, end of...
Agree, history is littered with crimes committed by politicians from all political parties. Geoffrey Archer famously served time in jail for his crimes and recently Hugh Grant played the disgraced Liberal party MP Jeremy Thorpe in the docudrama 'A very English scandal' about his attempted murder of his secret lover. Wrong is wrong the political party they come from is irrelevant and trying to score political points on the back of it is pretty cheap. "
Right, but you miss the point. The murder is bad, yes. The political affiliation of the murder is irrelevant as you say. My comment was on the response from the UKIP politician to the murder. Not the murder itself. But I know you will try to twist this for points scoring.
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive.
Spot on Will, there is no connection other than some people would like to blame Brexit for everything! "
Brexit wasn't even mentioned in the op for gods sake  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive."
I'd guess the post would have been the same if it had been any other political party.
It's the statement by another member of the same party that is quite bad, and that's what's been highlighted.
Some people like to get offended for offendeds sake and if there isn't something to get peoples knickers in a twist then you can guarentee it they will move the dots to their choosing to create a whole new picture.
It's quite fucking sad to be honest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I really don't see any link between a 'domestic relationship murder' and the murderers political beliefs and affiliations. In fact I find any attempt to connect the two even in passing highly objectionable and offensive.
Spot on Will, there is no connection other than some people would like to blame Brexit for everything!
Brexit wasn't even mentioned in the op for gods sake "
Sorry for interrupting but I think most people tie anything to do with the kippers equals Brexit. They seem to go together in most people's minds. For me I voted for Brexit but never voted UKIP. So I don't. People presume |
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"It is true that these things happen, unfortunately. This was obviously a tragic domestic triangle that has ended in a disgusting murder. But the murderer is what he is, a murderer. The fact that he was a member of UKIP has nothing to do with it, and was definitely not the motive.
It is a great shame, but there are murderers out there, and they come from every walk of life. One day perhaps psychiatrists will be able to identify these people before they commit their crime, and the victims will all be saved. But their findings will have nothing to do with political orientation. Evil is evil, end of...
Agree, history is littered with crimes committed by politicians from all political parties. Geoffrey Archer famously served time in jail for his crimes and recently Hugh Grant played the disgraced Liberal party MP Jeremy Thorpe in the docudrama 'A very English scandal' about his attempted murder of his secret lover. Wrong is wrong the political party they come from is irrelevant and trying to score political points on the back of it is pretty cheap.
Right, but you miss the point. The murder is bad, yes. The political affiliation of the murder is irrelevant as you say. My comment was on the response from the UKIP politician to the murder. Not the murder itself. But I know you will try to twist this for points scoring.
-Matt"
'My comment was on the response from the UKIP politician'???
You said in your OP the comments were by an ex-Kipper.
To put your quote "these things happen" in context here are some of the other things Mr Mountford said (from the BBC report).
"I still regard Steve as fundamentally a decent man who has found himself in circumstances beyond his control."
"I'm not condoning it in any way but I was very, very sad to hear of Steve's conviction."
"I'm well aware domestic disputes can get out of hand but I feel equally sorry for both Steve and his now deceased wife."
It was a shame you couldn't be bothered to include these in your OP. But then it wouldn't have had the diluted the effect you wanted!
Have you been taking tips from James McGrory from Open Britain?
https://youtu.be/Z4Jb-fmFfiU |
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"It is true that these things happen, unfortunately. This was obviously a tragic domestic triangle that has ended in a disgusting murder. But the murderer is what he is, a murderer. The fact that he was a member of UKIP has nothing to do with it, and was definitely not the motive.
It is a great shame, but there are murderers out there, and they come from every walk of life. One day perhaps psychiatrists will be able to identify these people before they commit their crime, and the victims will all be saved. But their findings will have nothing to do with political orientation. Evil is evil, end of...
Agree, history is littered with crimes committed by politicians from all political parties. Geoffrey Archer famously served time in jail for his crimes and recently Hugh Grant played the disgraced Liberal party MP Jeremy Thorpe in the docudrama 'A very English scandal' about his attempted murder of his secret lover. Wrong is wrong the political party they come from is irrelevant and trying to score political points on the back of it is pretty cheap.
Right, but you miss the point. The murder is bad, yes. The political affiliation of the murder is irrelevant as you say. My comment was on the response from the UKIP politician to the murder. Not the murder itself. But I know you will try to twist this for points scoring.
-Matt
'My comment was on the response from the UKIP politician'???
You said in your OP the comments were by an ex-Kipper.
To put your quote "these things happen" in context here are some of the other things Mr Mountford said (from the BBC report).
"I still regard Steve as fundamentally a decent man who has found himself in circumstances beyond his control."
"I'm not condoning it in any way but I was very, very sad to hear of Steve's conviction."
"I'm well aware domestic disputes can get out of hand but I feel equally sorry for both Steve and his now deceased wife."
It was a shame you couldn't be bothered to include these in your OP. But then it wouldn't have had the diluted the effect you wanted!
Have you been taking tips from James McGrory from Open Britain?
https://youtu.be/Z4Jb-fmFfiU"
Thanks for clarifying and putting the comments in context .
It is a very sad scenario for everyone . It would be interesting to know why the original poster choose to ingore these comments and instead quoted a meaningless comment in isolation. |
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