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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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Not sure if it is a wind up but I have now seen this in more than one place.
Seems like the Trump is going to withdraw completely from the WTO and create Fair And Reciprocating Trade Agreements (FARTA) with individual countries and entities.
The purpose is to allow the US to act as fairly, unfairly, justly or unjustly as it feels, whenever it feels like in order to reward friends and punish those who won’t play ball. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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basically what he want is more power over trade rules and policy that he can't do via Executive Order.... but he will have to get it thru congress...
bearing in mind the republicans are suppose to be the party of business and small regulation they would have to basically do a 180.....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe it could be a better way do not really know as the present globalisation is not working that is certain"
It'd be a case of the strong will do what they must and the weak will suffer what they will.
There are not many countries who could economically hit back at the US - so what you would probably see if more trade blocks being created to protect against American and Chinese economic preferences + punishments.
Basically this can be seen as Trump saying "Gimme what I want else you go on the economic hit list." No ta, worse than the EU. |
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Trump is correct. The WTO is unfair. It classes China as a "developing nation" and so it gets concessions that other nations, particularly the USA are denied.
Everyone knows that in reality China is an economic powerhouse, and it simply exploits the stupidity of the WTO to undercut other countries and floods the world with its cheap goods. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And unlike the dimwit Canadians, Trump isn't going to roll over."
Of course he isn't.
Bigly strong trump with his massive hands is the most alpha of manly men.
Like yourself.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He understands business, unlike Turdeau."
In don't think anyone who can bankrupt a casino can claim to "understand business".
But it's good you've got regurgitating Trumpian talking points down. Well done.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And you don't understand how business works. To be successful in business, you have to have to be unsuccessful too."
I understand that it really ought to be mathematically impossible to loose money running a casino.
I mean there's a reason Trump had to turn to foreign investors in fund his ventures, everyone else knew him well enough to know better.
But if you've bought into the lies about Trumps business acumen, you've already demonstrated you've no idea about "business", but you do love the idea of a puffed up strongman taking charge. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And if you don't believe that a man with that much power, wealth, and internationally renowned, successful businesses is successful, then you are deluded."
Well, Trump won't actually release his tax returns, so we only have the word of a pathological liar as to how rich he is.
But I'd look to his stubby hate boner for actual rich people like Jeff Bezos (who is not a good person either, lest you get some ideas, but at least he can lay genuine claim to being good at business and also is actually wealthy) as a good indication of his actual success and wealth.
An actual rich person wouldn't need to commit constant ethics violations to continue to grift while in the Whitehouse.
Ohh, and let's not forget how he bankrupted a casino. Because that is the crown jewel of his failure.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"And you don't understand how business works. To be successful in business, you have to have to be unsuccessful too."
there is being unsuccessful... and there is being bankrupt 3 times and being notorious for not paying business' for jobs they complete |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh grow up. As if he isn't successful by any measure, and as if he isn't standing on his own two feet."
I'll give him credit for taking the naked white supremacy of America and riding that into office - a role he is as comically unfit for as he is in business. |
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"Oh grow up. As if he isn't successful by any measure, and as if he isn't standing on his own two feet.
You do realise he inherited his fortune don't you? "
You do realise that he didn't don't you? |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"Oh grow up. As if he isn't successful by any measure, and as if he isn't standing on his own two feet.
You do realise he inherited his fortune don't you?
You do realise that he didn't don't you?"
Really? So his father wasn't a property magnate?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You're just blinded to his success by pure hate. Probably jealousy too.
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I am indeed, as the kids say, well jell.
You found me out.
I mean, I've never even bankrupted a casino. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You're just blinded to his success by pure hate. Probably jealousy too.
I am indeed, as the kids say, well jell.
You found me out.
I mean, I've never even bankrupted a casino. "
Or brought down a 300 year old dynasty |
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So he's not successful. He lives in a council flat, is on benefits and he travels on the bus and buys his clothes from the charity shop.
Ever been in Trump Tower? Or any other Trump property?
You are all just idiotic. Jealous and penniless by comparison.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You're just blinded to his success by pure hate. Probably jealousy too.
I am indeed, as the kids say, well jell.
You found me out.
I mean, I've never even bankrupted a casino.
Or brought down a 300 year old dynasty "
No, you see, the joke only works if you list things that Trump has actually done.
Like pretend to be my own publicist. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So he's not successful. He lives in a council flat, is on benefits and he travels on the bus and buys his clothes from the charity shop.
Ever been in Trump Tower? Or any other Trump property?
You are all just idiotic. Jealous and penniless by comparison.
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Hey. I've never bragged about sexually assaulting people either.
Must be my jealously showing.... |
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"You're just blinded to his success by pure hate. Probably jealousy too.
I am indeed, as the kids say, well jell.
You found me out.
I mean, I've never even bankrupted a casino.
Or brought down a 300 year old dynasty
No, you see, the joke only works if you list things that Trump has actually done.
Like pretend to be my own publicist."
Well he's built up a real estate, hotel, golf club empire and become President of the most important country in the world and is a billionaire.
That's what most people call success and dream of.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've also not set up a scam university.
Or overseen the mass separation of children from their parents and subsequent incarceration of said children.
Or hastened the end of American hegemony and its standing abroad.
Gosh, I wish I were that successful! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Also - point of order. Trump claims to be a billionaire but won't release his tax returns, and is a pathological liar.
Probably best not to take that as gospel.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Because he lives like a pauper and you cannot value his properties?
Trump Tower is worth a billion for a start!"
So he says.
But Trump also says that his personal valuation of his wealth is tied to his 'brand' and varies based on such things as Trumps mood.
Unsurprisingly, this makes him full of shit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You're full of shit if you cannot value Manhattan real estate."
Well, best valuation of Trump tower, by Forbes, puts it at $371 million.
Now, bases on your previous claims of it being "worth a billion" and the above, we have only one conclusion to draw here.... |
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$371m yeah right. They are just guessing. But even if they were right, that's nearly half a billion in one property. What about the rest? They don't add up to another half a billion? As if they don't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"$371m yeah right. They are just guessing. But even if they were right, that's nearly half a billion in one property. What about the rest? They don't add up to another half a billion? As if they don't."
All property valuation is guessing.
But you did say Trump tower was worth a billion.
Neatly demonstrating the difference between an educated guess and a regular one. |
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I believe that it is. Amazing location. Iconic building. I was there a few months ago. Shortage of Manhattan Real Estate. I think $1 billion is the value. Good value when you look at how much they want for jewellery next door! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe that it is. Amazing location. Iconic building. I was there a few months ago. Shortage of Manhattan Real Estate. I think $1 billion is the value. Good value when you look at how much they want for jewellery next door!"
thats me convinced.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe that it is. Amazing location. Iconic building. I was there a few months ago. Shortage of Manhattan Real Estate. I think $1 billion is the value. Good value when you look at how much they want for jewellery next door!"
Why not say 2 or 3 billion?
You're making an estimate with an admitted ignorance to the subject at hand, why not go hog wild. |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"And what does it matter? You say that is worth nearly half a billion. And he has many more landmark assets, so he is easily a billionaire."
This is how it works Andy - you bribe an Appraiser to value your real estate for a $billion and then you mortgage it for $800 billion even though it is only worth half that.
Don't be surprised when the fall comes harder than Kashogi’s |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And what does it matter? You say that is worth nearly half a billion. And he has many more landmark assets, so he is easily a billionaire."
Well, now here's the thing. A lot of the "Trump" branded properties are just that. He doesn't own them, he just gets money for having his stupid name on the side.
Of course. Having assets you can't liquidate, and a lot of your worth ties up in a brand you're busy tanking by being a racist piece of shit, kinda ruins that.
If he was as rich as he says, he could just prove it, by releasing his tax returns.
So, why is bigly rich Trump hiding this information? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why would he reveal it? "
Aside from it being a political norm, he would have no reason to hide it if he's as wealthy as he would have us believe.
Of course, Trump operates on selling the impossible to the gullible, so best not to peek behind the curtain... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion"
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you? |
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you?"
No, but if they have got it as wrong as the TT, that still makes him a billionaire. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you?
No, but if they have got it as wrong as the TT, that still makes him a billionaire."
Of course. Wrong when they disagree with the number you've pulled from the deepest parts of your are
Right when they say something you agree with.
Gotcha. |
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you?
No, but if they have got it as wrong as the TT, that still makes him a billionaire.
Of course. Wrong when they disagree with the number you've pulled from the deepest parts of your are
Right when they say something you agree with.
Gotcha."
The bitter, jealous, ignorant left wing arse is you.
You just cannot accept that Trump is successful, famous, a billionaire, the most powerful man on the planet and President of the most important country in the world.
And you?
You're a nobody with a massive chip on his shoulder. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's a bit weird how the only possible rebuttal you can come up with is a schoolyard level taunt of "jealously".
I am certainly jealous of a self confessed sexual assaulter presiding over the demise of a former superpower.
Wait, no, not jealous. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I mean, I might be a nobody, but I at least I am not overseeing the mass incarceration of children.
If that's the price of being who you consider an admirable person, a somebody, then I am happy where I am. |
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"I mean, I might be a nobody, but I at least I am not overseeing the mass incarceration of children.
If that's the price of being who you consider an admirable person, a somebody, then I am happy where I am. "
Good for you! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump sells to the gullible?
LMFAO!!!
He is, at heart, a confidence man.
People being stupid or greedy enough to believe him is how that works. "
In the ‘greatest country on earth’?
Where the white trash live in trailers and the blacks live in ghettos and people struggle for health care and the murder rate is horrific? It’s a fuckin 3rd world country and you think it was Trump who sold them the American Dream? It was the shit that went before him and all you can do is moan about Trump??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump sells to the gullible?
LMFAO!!!
He is, at heart, a confidence man.
People being stupid or greedy enough to believe him is how that works.
In the ‘greatest country on earth’?
Where the white trash live in trailers and the blacks live in ghettos and people struggle for health care and the murder rate is horrific? It’s a fuckin 3rd world country and you think it was Trump who sold them the American Dream? It was the shit that went before him and all you can do is moan about Trump???"
Despite what you and Trump may think, if you're in the big chair, the buck stops with you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump sells to the gullible?
LMFAO!!!
He is, at heart, a confidence man.
People being stupid or greedy enough to believe him is how that works.
In the ‘greatest country on earth’?
Where the white trash live in trailers and the blacks live in ghettos and people struggle for health care and the murder rate is horrific? It’s a fuckin 3rd world country and you think it was Trump who sold them the American Dream? It was the shit that went before him and all you can do is moan about Trump???
Despite what you and Trump may think, if you're in the big chair, the buck stops with you."
Pathetic |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Trump is correct. The WTO is unfair. It classes China as a "developing nation" and so it gets concessions that other nations, particularly the USA are denied.
Everyone knows that in reality China is an economic powerhouse, and it simply exploits the stupidity of the WTO to undercut other countries and floods the world with its cheap goods."
China is still a developing Nation compared to the USA, it development is unevenly distributed between the wealthy urbanised middle and upperclass and the rest. and it doesn't grant the individual and society the freedoms we enjoy.
It's also a economic power house.
I imagine if it had to reassign wealth to develop more evenly it would be less of a powerhouse, so maybe it's a economic and geopolitical strategy? As such maybe co-operative sanctions need to be put in place.
But lets be blunt, direct punishment from other nations changes little. |
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you?
No, but if they have got it as wrong as the TT, that still makes him a billionaire.
Of course. Wrong when they disagree with the number you've pulled from the deepest parts of your are
Right when they say something you agree with.
Gotcha.
The bitter, jealous, ignorant left wing arse is you.
You just cannot accept that Trump is successful, famous, a billionaire, the most powerful man on the planet and President of the most important country in the world.
And you?
You're a nobody with a massive chip on his shoulder."
WTF?!
Just because you get a hard on even at the thought of the over-baked Neanderthal, doesn't mean that everyone else should join in the blowjob too.
And insulting people who don't agree with you is just a pathetic attempt to mimic your (undeserving) idol. Fake news and all that.
I mean, seriously, WTF?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you?
No, but if they have got it as wrong as the TT, that still makes him a billionaire.
Of course. Wrong when they disagree with the number you've pulled from the deepest parts of your are
Right when they say something you agree with.
Gotcha.
The bitter, jealous, ignorant left wing arse is you.
You just cannot accept that Trump is successful, famous, a billionaire, the most powerful man on the planet and President of the most important country in the world.
And you?
You're a nobody with a massive chip on his shoulder.
WTF?!
Just because you get a hard on even at the thought of the over-baked Neanderthal, doesn't mean that everyone else should join in the blowjob too.
And insulting people who don't agree with you is just a pathetic attempt to mimic your (undeserving) idol. Fake news and all that.
I mean, seriously, WTF?! "
At the risk of being called a troll, I don’t think being called the manliest of manly men was actually a compliment  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump sells to the gullible?
LMFAO!!!
He is, at heart, a confidence man.
People being stupid or greedy enough to believe him is how that works.
In the ‘greatest country on earth’?
Where the white trash live in trailers and the blacks live in ghettos and people struggle for health care and the murder rate is horrific? It’s a fuckin 3rd world country and you think it was Trump who sold them the American Dream? It was the shit that went before him and all you can do is moan about Trump???
Despite what you and Trump may think, if you're in the big chair, the buck stops with you.
Pathetic "
That's one way of describing that attitude, yes.
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you?
No, but if they have got it as wrong as the TT, that still makes him a billionaire.
Of course. Wrong when they disagree with the number you've pulled from the deepest parts of your are
Right when they say something you agree with.
Gotcha.
The bitter, jealous, ignorant left wing arse is you.
You just cannot accept that Trump is successful, famous, a billionaire, the most powerful man on the planet and President of the most important country in the world.
And you?
You're a nobody with a massive chip on his shoulder.
WTF?!
Just because you get a hard on even at the thought of the over-baked Neanderthal, doesn't mean that everyone else should join in the blowjob too.
And insulting people who don't agree with you is just a pathetic attempt to mimic your (undeserving) idol. Fake news and all that.
I mean, seriously, WTF?!
At the risk of being called a troll, I don’t think being called the manliest of manly men was actually a compliment "
I would have called him a lot worse so I'm seriously impressed with Demonjohn's restraint.
I don't care what your views are ben or how much we disagree on certain subjects, you just cannot seriously tell me that you don't see what I see on this instance! Prejudices aside. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you?
No, but if they have got it as wrong as the TT, that still makes him a billionaire.
Of course. Wrong when they disagree with the number you've pulled from the deepest parts of your are
Right when they say something you agree with.
Gotcha.
The bitter, jealous, ignorant left wing arse is you.
You just cannot accept that Trump is successful, famous, a billionaire, the most powerful man on the planet and President of the most important country in the world.
And you?
You're a nobody with a massive chip on his shoulder.
WTF?!
Just because you get a hard on even at the thought of the over-baked Neanderthal, doesn't mean that everyone else should join in the blowjob too.
And insulting people who don't agree with you is just a pathetic attempt to mimic your (undeserving) idol. Fake news and all that.
I mean, seriously, WTF?!
At the risk of being called a troll, I don’t think being called the manliest of manly men was actually a compliment
I would have called him a lot worse so I'm seriously impressed with Demonjohn's restraint.
I don't care what your views are ben or how much we disagree on certain subjects, you just cannot seriously tell me that you don't see what I see on this instance! Prejudices aside."
So why haven’t you called the demon out? |
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"Even Forbes put his wealth at $3.1 billion
Well, as previously established, Forbes are only guessing, and cannot be trusted.
Or does your incredulity only stretch to when it's convenient for you?
No, but if they have got it as wrong as the TT, that still makes him a billionaire.
Of course. Wrong when they disagree with the number you've pulled from the deepest parts of your are
Right when they say something you agree with.
Gotcha.
The bitter, jealous, ignorant left wing arse is you.
You just cannot accept that Trump is successful, famous, a billionaire, the most powerful man on the planet and President of the most important country in the world.
And you?
You're a nobody with a massive chip on his shoulder.
WTF?!
Just because you get a hard on even at the thought of the over-baked Neanderthal, doesn't mean that everyone else should join in the blowjob too.
And insulting people who don't agree with you is just a pathetic attempt to mimic your (undeserving) idol. Fake news and all that.
I mean, seriously, WTF?!
At the risk of being called a troll, I don’t think being called the manliest of manly men was actually a compliment
I would have called him a lot worse so I'm seriously impressed with Demonjohn's restraint.
I don't care what your views are ben or how much we disagree on certain subjects, you just cannot seriously tell me that you don't see what I see on this instance! Prejudices aside.
So why haven’t you called the demon out?"
Have we read the *same* dialogue?! Is your prejudice against demonjohn making you completely blind to how vitriolic (to say the least) the other person has been? If for a "manliest of men" (or whatever, he blows a gasket like that, wtf is he gonna do if someone (demonjohn or someone/anyone else) speaks to *him* the way he does?! Track them down and shoot them?! Ffs! What have we come to?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What a discrace. Why would you even judge a guy by his fortune. A guy brought up with a silver spoon in his mouth is not worth any thought that he will save us. Remember he is a descendant of Heinz, a German immigrant who invented ketchup and the other many sauces. He didn't make billions. He inherited it. |
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over a year ago
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I wouldn't worry about it. Internet tough guys who rail against "immigrant scum" are ten a penny, and they wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life.
There's a reason they fetishize people like Trump, he's boorish, proudly ignorant, and speaks the same racially charged language they do, but in public.
He's everything they want to be, hence the defending to the hilt of his poor business career. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What a discrace. Why would you even judge a guy by his fortune. A guy brought up with a silver spoon in his mouth is not worth any thought that he will save us. Remember he is a descendant of Heinz, a German immigrant who invented ketchup and the other many sauces. He didn't make billions. He inherited it. "
It's easy to be a billionaire when born a billionaire. |
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over a year ago
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"And if you don't believe that a man with that much power, wealth, and internationally renowned, successful businesses is successful, then you are deluded."
Define your metrics for business success? Because I don't think renown is a quantifiable metric.
Define power. As power is an abstract concept until you define metrics.
Given that the objective of private business is to make money - success is measured in wealth. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wouldn't worry about it. Internet tough guys who rail against "immigrant scum" are ten a penny, and they wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life.
There's a reason they fetishize people like Trump, he's boorish, proudly ignorant, and speaks the same racially charged language they do, but in public.
He's everything they want to be, hence the defending to the hilt of his poor business career."
I think its deeper. When people feel weak and threatened, some will listen to the chest beating person who promises to ue their immediate power/influence/wealth to go hard against *x issue* or *x group in society*.
I think its a desire to find someone who has a quick fix solution.
Rather than owing up to your own flaws (maybe you didntvstudy hard in school, or maybe when money was goid you spent it on booze rather than investing in upskilling or fisical investments).
People don't go for the 5-10 year strategy for individual improvement which involves self sacrifice if there is the promise of the lazy option from another. |
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"I wouldn't worry about it. Internet tough guys who rail against "immigrant scum" are ten a penny, and they wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life.
There's a reason they fetishize people like Trump, he's boorish, proudly ignorant, and speaks the same racially charged language they do, but in public.
He's everything they want to be, hence the defending to the hilt of his poor business career.
I think its deeper. When people feel weak and threatened, some will listen to the chest beating person who promises to ue their immediate power/influence/wealth to go hard against *x issue* or *x group in society*.
I think its a desire to find someone who has a quick fix solution.
Rather than owing up to your own flaws (maybe you didntvstudy hard in school, or maybe when money was goid you spent it on booze rather than investing in upskilling or fisical investments).
People don't go for the 5-10 year strategy for individual improvement which involves self sacrifice if there is the promise of the lazy option from another. "
You mean like socialists? |
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"I wouldn't worry about it. Internet tough guys who rail against "immigrant scum" are ten a penny, and they wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life.
There's a reason they fetishize people like Trump, he's boorish, proudly ignorant, and speaks the same racially charged language they do, but in public.
He's everything they want to be, hence the defending to the hilt of his poor business career.
I think its deeper. When people feel weak and threatened, some will listen to the chest beating person who promises to ue their immediate power/influence/wealth to go hard against *x issue* or *x group in society*.
I think its a desire to find someone who has a quick fix solution.
Rather than owing up to your own flaws (maybe you didntvstudy hard in school, or maybe when money was goid you spent it on booze rather than investing in upskilling or fisical investments).
People don't go for the 5-10 year strategy for individual improvement which involves self sacrifice if there is the promise of the lazy option from another.
You mean like socialists?"
I mean like anyone who finds themselves left out by the centre left/centre right and as a result drifts to the political extremes of fake populists. |
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"I wouldn't worry about it. Internet tough guys who rail against "immigrant scum" are ten a penny, and they wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life.
There's a reason they fetishize people like Trump, he's boorish, proudly ignorant, and speaks the same racially charged language they do, but in public.
He's everything they want to be, hence the defending to the hilt of his poor business career.
I think its deeper. When people feel weak and threatened, some will listen to the chest beating person who promises to ue their immediate power/influence/wealth to go hard against *x issue* or *x group in society*.
I think its a desire to find someone who has a quick fix solution.
Rather than owing up to your own flaws (maybe you didntvstudy hard in school, or maybe when money was goid you spent it on booze rather than investing in upskilling or fisical investments).
People don't go for the 5-10 year strategy for individual improvement which involves self sacrifice if there is the promise of the lazy option from another.
You mean like socialists?
I mean like anyone who finds themselves left out by the centre left/centre right and as a result drifts to the political extremes of fake populists."
Like Corbyn? |
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