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"I was *very* surprised to hear (on LBC) yesterday that over half of the terror attacks reported in Europe last year (205), over half were in the UK (107) and 88 of those were in N.I. These numbers include all kinds of terror attacks (isis, right wing, etc). I never knew that there were that many terror attacks in N.I.! Were any of you aware of that and why is the number so high there? Some of the callers provided interesting answers but I didn't get to listen to the whole program, in order to get a better picture as to what the reasons are." When is someone gonna get a bloody grip of these Muslims huh? | |||
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"Some people will believe anything " i will admit I haven’t gone to source on this one. Which bit is made up ? | |||
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"We appointed a fookin’ terrorist sympathiser as Prime Minister! " Bastard liberals gave us no fookin choice .The other guy was a terrorist sympathiser also for the bloody IRA.  | |||
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"Should we have a total travel ban on the Irish until somebody can tell us what the hell is going on.Is extreme vetting the way forward.Do we want these terrorists crossing over into our country?" I think its obvious Bob that we need to secure the border. | |||
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"Should we have a total travel ban on the Irish until somebody can tell us what the hell is going on.Is extreme vetting the way forward.Do we want these terrorists crossing over into our country?" As the North is majority British the question we should be asking is how do we ban all these Brits? If the British arent causing terrorist attacks theyre grooming children for sex exploitation. | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere "You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide. | |||
"Do the British always assume that only IRA members in the North of Ireland are terrorists? You know there's loyalist paramilitaries.... British terror groups who commit terrorism in the name of Britain. They literally commit terror attacks in the name of Britain. They're British, usually white and mostly protestant. I just get the feeling when British people hear terror and Northern Ireland they straight away think of the Irish Republicans when alot is British terrorism. " Don't be silly, white people can't be terrorists | |||
"I was *very* surprised to hear (on LBC) yesterday that over half of the terror attacks reported in Europe last year (205), over half were in the UK (107) and 88 of those were in N.I. These numbers include all kinds of terror attacks (isis, right wing, etc). I never knew that there were that many terror attacks in N.I.! Were any of you aware of that and why is the number so high there? Some of the callers provided interesting answers but I didn't get to listen to the whole program, in order to get a better picture as to what the reasons are." Somehow not that surprised proves there is a lot of sensorship in this country | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide."Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers. I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic? | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?"What is classed as a terror attack these days? | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?"I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though. | |||
"Should we have a total travel ban on the Irish until somebody can tell us what the hell is going on.Is extreme vetting the way forward.Do we want these terrorists crossing over into our country?" You do realise some on here will think you are serious lol enjoy Tuscany ?? | |||
"Should we have a total travel ban on the Irish until somebody can tell us what the hell is going on.Is extreme vetting the way forward.Do we want these terrorists crossing over into our country? You do realise some on here will think you are serious lol enjoy Tuscany ??" Must be a great holiday, spent most of his time posting on here, what a waste!  | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though."Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it | |||
"Should we have a total travel ban on the Irish until somebody can tell us what the hell is going on.Is extreme vetting the way forward.Do we want these terrorists crossing over into our country? You do realise some on here will think you are serious lol enjoy Tuscany ??" Mr suit anyone with half a brain would realise this is almost word for word what trump said concerning Muslims entering the USA.I just replaced the word Muslim with Irish | |||
"I was *very* surprised to hear (on LBC) yesterday that over half of the terror attacks reported in Europe last year (205), over half were in the UK (107) and 88 of those were in N.I. These numbers include all kinds of terror attacks (isis, right wing, etc). I never knew that there were that many terror attacks in N.I.! Were any of you aware of that and why is the number so high there? Some of the callers provided interesting answers but I didn't get to listen to the whole program, in order to get a better picture as to what the reasons are." Those who are resident in NI are not too worried about these so called terrorist attacks. ( unlike ISIS the NI based para militaries usually gave warnings of attacks ). I detest all forms of violence but comparing NI attacks to ISIS is hardly a like for like comparison. | |||
"To the sound of pennies dropping everywhere. A terrorist on the loose in say, Liege, two dead, and it is wall to wall coverage on every UK news channel. We tint our Facebook profiles with a flag of Belgium, Sadiq Khan changes the town in the template of his “Londoners standing in solidarity press release”, and we can’t help wondering what’s in his rucksack when a man of Asian ethnicity gets on a Tube at Bethnall Green. A terrorist on the loose in, say, Belfast, two dead, and, um, er, it might make it into the tailend round-up of the News at Ten. Islamic extremism plays to the narrative that drives so much of Government policy, legislation and expenditure. Media takes a giant magnifying glass to each and every incident, the public demands more safety and the Government feels vindicated and emboldened to spend even more money. All of it predicated on the myth that survival of the Government requires elimination of every risk that a muslim might be a nutter. The reality that Northern Ireland has more nutters per head of population than any other community in the UK somehow passes us by." The nutters to whom you make the reference ( I am not quite sure as to why you use that term ) do not go around killing innocent people at random. For that very reason we should be directing all out efforts at fighting ISIS terrorism. It has made travel more expensive and time consuming | |||
"I was *very* surprised to hear (on LBC) yesterday that over half of the terror attacks reported in Europe last year (205), over half were in the UK (107) and 88 of those were in N.I. These numbers include all kinds of terror attacks (isis, right wing, etc). I never knew that there were that many terror attacks in N.I.! Were any of you aware of that and why is the number so high there? Some of the callers provided interesting answers but I didn't get to listen to the whole program, in order to get a better picture as to what the reasons are." The drugs trade in NI is controlled by para militaries . The statistics may include territory disputes. | |||
"Do the British always assume that only IRA members in the North of Ireland are terrorists? You know there's loyalist paramilitaries.... British terror groups who commit terrorism in the name of Britain. They literally commit terror attacks in the name of Britain. They're British, usually white and mostly protestant. I just get the feeling when British people hear terror and Northern Ireland they straight away think of the Irish Republicans when alot is British terrorism. " This is hardly surprising as I am unaware of any loyalist para militaries bombing the UK mainland . | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though.
Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it "The report was from Europol The definition is "The definition of the term terrorist offences is indicated in Article 1 of the Council Framework Decision of 13 June 2002 on combatting terrorism (2002/475/JHA), which all EU Member States have implemented in their national legislation. This Framework Decision specifies that terrorist offences are intentional acts which, given their nature or context, may seriously damage a country or an international organisation when committed with the aim of: seriously intimidating a population, or unduly compelling a government or international organisation to perform or abstain from performing an act, or seriously destabilising or destroying the fundamental political, constitutional, economic or social structures of a country or an international organisation." | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though.
Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it
The report was from Europol
The definition is
The definition of the term terrorist offences is indicated in Article 1 of the Council Framework Decision
of 13 June 2002 on combatting terrorism (2002/475/JHA), which all EU Member States have implemented in their national legislation. This Framework Decision specifies that
terrorist offences are intentional acts which, given their nature or context, may seriously damage a country
or an international organisation when committed with the aim of: seriously intimidating a population, or unduly compelling a government or international organisation to perform or abstain from performing an act, or seriously destabilising
or destroying the fundamental political, constitutional, economic or social structures of a country or an international organisation.
"And next they will be saying there are 17.4 million terrorists in the UK | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though.
Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it
The report was from Europol
The definition is
The definition of the term terrorist offences is indicated in Article 1 of the Council Framework Decision
of 13 June 2002 on combatting terrorism (2002/475/JHA), which all EU Member States have implemented in their national legislation. This Framework Decision specifies that
terrorist offences are intentional acts which, given their nature or context, may seriously damage a country
or an international organisation when committed with the aim of: seriously intimidating a population, or unduly compelling a government or international organisation to perform or abstain from performing an act, or seriously destabilising
or destroying the fundamental political, constitutional, economic or social structures of a country or an international organisation.
And next they will be saying there are 17.4 million terrorists in the UK "*they* being the uk law enforcement agencies ? The ones who record this in the uk ? There’s plenty of stuff in the report to back a jihadist slant to any argument if that’s the *agenda* you want to follow. Creating strawmans of *next* isnt a great way to counter balance the point that territism isn’t just ISIS. | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though.
Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it "How exactly are they deflecting terrorism away from Islam? Islam was included in the report. It was a report about terror *numbers* in general. Or would it have been more to your liking if they ignored *all* other terror and only included islam? After all, islamists are bad terrorists and all other terrorists are good, right? Some people believe reports based on evidence. Others believe in unicorns and crystal balls. What's your point? | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though.
Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it
How exactly are they deflecting terrorism away from Islam? Islam was included in the report. It was a report about terror *numbers* in general. Or would it have been more to your liking if they ignored *all* other terror and only included islam? After all, islamists are bad terrorists and all other terrorists are good, right?
Some people believe reports based on evidence. Others believe in unicorns and crystal balls. What's your point?"My point is it is politically driven bollocks | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though.
Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it
How exactly are they deflecting terrorism away from Islam? Islam was included in the report. It was a report about terror *numbers* in general. Or would it have been more to your liking if they ignored *all* other terror and only included islam? After all, islamists are bad terrorists and all other terrorists are good, right?
Some people believe reports based on evidence. Others believe in unicorns and crystal balls. What's your point?
My point is it is politically driven bollocks"Of course it is, because *you* say it. What do all those people who's job it is to compile that data know?  Besides, if it's evidence-based, it's bollocks. If it paints an "optimistic" picture based on wishful thinking, it's the dogs bollocks, right? As per usual  | |||
" My point is it is politically driven bollocks" I love jeopardy. What is Brexit ? | |||
" My point is it is politically driven bollocks I love jeopardy. What is Brexit ? "An escape from politically driven bollocks | |||
" My point is it is politically driven bollocks I love jeopardy. What is Brexit ?
An escape from politically driven bollocks "what is swinging ? | |||
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"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though.
Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it
How exactly are they deflecting terrorism away from Islam? Islam was included in the report. It was a report about terror *numbers* in general. Or would it have been more to your liking if they ignored *all* other terror and only included islam? After all, islamists are bad terrorists and all other terrorists are good, right?
Some people believe reports based on evidence. Others believe in unicorns and crystal balls. What's your point?
My point is it is politically driven bollocks"Youre basing that on absolutely nothing though. Its a report that shows its methodology and its sources so its easy to pick apart if its wrong. So specifically what is wrong with it? | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation...." Shush now... We British never terrorise, we disiplin and impose order...  | |||
"And there were about 15000 terrorist attacks in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Bloody Irish get everywhere
You know the numbers not that high considering those places total 5.6 billion people out of 7.2 billion worldwide.
Plus they're for continents other than Europe. I'm sure they probably gave the numbers for the rest of the world too but the program concentrated in Europe and in particular UK and NI because of the numbers.
I looked online today and found an article from a newspaper about it (I don't know if the LBC program was inspired from that article) but it's still surprising for me that over half of the 205 in the whole of Europe is in the UK and 88 of that half are in N.I. As I said those numbers include *all* kind of terror attacks, not just isis etc. You'd have thought it'd have been more widely mentioned/reported. Or are they just trying not to cause panic?
What is classed as a terror attack these days?
I don't know. I didn't write the article. I assume there's certain criteria, those who compile the statistics have, in what to include and what not to. The article did say that "foiled, failed and carried out" were all included in the total numbers though.
Maybe a brick through a window or a nasty phone call gets classed as a terror attack by some forces these days. Or the people who wrote the article had an agenda? Maybe to deflect terrorism away from Islam? Like I said, some people will believe any old shite. And Make a thread about it
How exactly are they deflecting terrorism away from Islam? Islam was included in the report. It was a report about terror *numbers* in general. Or would it have been more to your liking if they ignored *all* other terror and only included islam? After all, islamists are bad terrorists and all other terrorists are good, right?
Some people believe reports based on evidence. Others believe in unicorns and crystal balls. What's your point?
My point is it is politically driven bollocks
Youre basing that on absolutely nothing though. Its a report that shows its methodology and its sources so its easy to pick apart if its wrong. So specifically what is wrong with it? "Nothing, he is just pushing his ideological agenda. | |||
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"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." " I gave a more balanced view in about the third post. And have followed it up with direct quotes. I also have the report open in another window as it looks an interesting read based on the headlines. | |||
"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." " Really? You did? And that's what it said? Funny how the report then says "207 failed, foiled and completed terrorist attacks in Europe" and not "119 failed, foiled and completed attacks in Europe and 88 security related incidents in NI". What kind of "security incidents" fall under the terrorism umbrella? Cats on trees or leaves on teain tracks? And, while we're at it, since you're quoting the ES, a bit further up is says: "Nine member states reported a total of 205 terrorist attacks that were either stopped, failed or completed, the EU's law enforcement agency said - up from 142 in 2016. The UK experienced the highest number with 107, which includes 88 security-related incidents in Northern Ireland, the EU terrorism situation and trend report said." When further down it says: "The number of jihadist terrorist attacks increased from 13 in 2016 to 33 in 2017, while ethno-nationalist and separatist attacks accounted for the largest proportion of the incidents, with 137. The report said the violent right-wing extremist spectrum is expanding, "partly fuelled by fears of a perceived Islamisation of society and anxiety over migration". Just for accuracy's sake | |||
"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." I gave a more balanced view in about the third post. And have followed it up with direct quotes. I also have the report open in another window as it looks an interesting read based on the headlines. " This isn't my view, it's just what was reported  | |||
"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." Really? You did? And that's what it said? Funny how the report then says "207 failed, foiled and completed terrorist attacks in Europe" and not "119 failed, foiled and completed attacks in Europe and 88 security related incidents in NI". What kind of "security incidents" fall under the terrorism umbrella? Cats on trees or leaves on teain tracks? And, while we're at it, since you're quoting the ES, a bit further up is says: "Nine member states reported a total of 205 terrorist attacks that were either stopped, failed or completed, the EU's law enforcement agency said - up from 142 in 2016. The UK experienced the highest number with 107, which includes 88 security-related incidents in Northern Ireland, the EU terrorism situation and trend report said." When further down it says: "The number of jihadist terrorist attacks increased from 13 in 2016 to 33 in 2017, while ethno-nationalist and separatist attacks accounted for the largest proportion of the incidents, with 137. The report said the violent right-wing extremist spectrum is expanding, "partly fuelled by fears of a perceived Islamisation of society and anxiety over migration". Just for accuracy's sake "Good for you | |||
"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." " 68 is beyond trivial relative to all the other modes of death. | |||
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"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." 68 is beyond trivial relative to all the other modes of death. " Indeed it is. | |||
"Should we have a total travel ban on the Irish until somebody can tell us what the hell is going on.Is extreme vetting the way forward.Do we want these terrorists crossing over into our country? You do realise some on here will think you are serious lol enjoy Tuscany ??" Tuscany?!  Poor Bob, they got you in your sleep and "dropped you off" there, did they? Did you at least manage to grab your blue passport on the way out? Because without it, especially if you catch some sun while you're down there, you're not getting back in!
I've packed a suitcase just in case they grab me in my sleep too, before they "kindly" drop me off somewhere sunny | |||
"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." 68 is beyond trivial relative to all the other modes of death. " Tell that to the 68 mothers, fathers, husbands, wives etc who lost their "trivial 68" loved ones  | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation...." But you're on a British website... | |||
"But you're on a British website..." Really? And there was me thinking it was a swingers site... Don't worry, I'll get my Union Flags out, drape one over my bed to fuck on, another I'll hang over the bed to salute every time I cum and I'll fit 2 (hanging right way round) as curtains so all can tell when I'm preforming for 'Queen and Country'... | |||
" My point is it is politically driven bollocks I love jeopardy. What is Brexit ?
An escape from politically driven bollocks what is swinging ?"Whatever you want it to be | |||
"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." 68 is beyond trivial relative to all the other modes of death. Tell that to the 68 mothers, fathers, husbands, wives etc who lost their "trivial 68" loved ones "Obviously! I can tell that you are reasonable from your posts here so please continue to use it. What causes 1000s of families to grieve is literally 10-100 times more important. Terrorism is a non-issue in the scheme of things. | |||
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"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website..." Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website... Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol" Typical anti-brit Athlone attitude. The past is the past. Move on. | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website... Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol" We don't think we own everything. It's a fact that you are on a British website though. You claim to hate this nation but you're on a British website looking for sex. | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website... Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol We don't think we own everything. It's a fact that you are on a British website though. You claim to hate this nation but you're on a British website looking for sex." Yeah but he only wants pure red haired milky skinned thoroughbred Irish cailíns so it balances out
Don't hate the player, just the platform | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website... Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol We don't think we own everything. It's a fact that you are on a British website though. You claim to hate this nation but you're on a British website looking for sex. Yeah but he only wants pure red haired milky skinned thoroughbred Irish cailíns so it balances out
Don't hate the player, just the platform "Don't know what a cailin is but I'll agree with that lol | |||
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"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website... Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol We don't think we own everything. It's a fact that you are on a British website though. You claim to hate this nation but you're on a British website looking for sex. Yeah but he only wants pure red haired milky skinned thoroughbred Irish cailíns so it balances out
Don't hate the player, just the platform
Don't know what a cailin is but I'll agree with that lol "Fuckin know it alls. How is this a British website.... a fuckin scoth should know better and know your history...... | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website... Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol Typical anti-brit Athlone attitude. The past is the past. Move on. " The oast can't be the past. Just tried to explain whyour so many people n nations around the world hate the brits and how they terrorised millions. U just expect people to forget. Listen to Damien Dempsey song colony man | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website... Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol Typical anti-brit Athlone attitude. The past is the past. Move on. The oast can't be the past. Just tried to explain whyour so many people n nations around the world hate the brits and how they terrorised millions. U just expect people to forget. Listen to Damien Dempsey song colony man" “Let today be the day you stop being haunted by the ghost of yesterday. Holding a grudge & harboring anger/resentment is poison to the soul. Get even with people...but not those who have hurt us, forget them, instead get even with those who have helped us.” | |||
"Ye it's always the irish. Maybe you brits should read your own terrorist history and see why people hate your nation.... But you're on a British website... Typical brit attitude. Think yes fuckin own everything. Lol Typical anti-brit Athlone attitude. The past is the past. Move on. The oast can't be the past. Just tried to explain whyour so many people n nations around the world hate the brits and how they terrorised millions. U just expect people to forget. Listen to Damien Dempsey song colony man" Tell me what good a sense of vengeance does?...especially for what happened generations before you. It's hokey nationalist bullshit for small minds. | |||
"The lowlife that carried out the Manchester bombing had recently returned from Libya, people on here criticise Trump for banning people from certain countries entering the US, maybe if this country had done the same some of those beautiful kids would not have lost their lives. The people who carry out these acts are scum. It doesn’t matter where they’re from, what religion they believe in. I’m Irish I’ve lived in London 20 yrs, both countries should be proud of how they’ve worked together put their differences aside. I’d like to think we’ve moved on from pointing the finger at each other. " How do you filter properly. By that seriously flawed logic you are just some paddy terrorist who should have been jailed for attempting to go to London. | |||
"The lowlife that carried out the Manchester bombing had recently returned from Libya, people on here criticise Trump for banning people from certain countries entering the US, maybe if this country had done the same some of those beautiful kids would not have lost their lives. The people who carry out these acts are scum. It doesn’t matter where they’re from, what religion they believe in. I’m Irish I’ve lived in London 20 yrs, both countries should be proud of how they’ve worked together put their differences aside. I’d like to think we’ve moved on from pointing the finger at each other. " Perhaps if we had not bombed Libya, the extremists would not have moved into the vacuum and the country's borders would be secure. Another foreign policy disaster. I recall reading somewhere that the bomber actually benefitted from British assistance during the rebellion against the regime. We did the same in Syria - gave assistance to groups waging jihad in the belief they were "moderate". | |||
"Did anybody else actually listen to the LBC broadcast? I did. It didn't say there were 88 terror attacks in Northern Ireland, it said there were 88 "security-related incidents". Articles from various news sources went on to say "Researchers said attacks in EU countries killed 68 victims and left 844 injured, with nearly all the reported fatalities and casualties resulting from jihadist atrocities." 68 is beyond trivial relative to all the other modes of death. Tell that to the 68 mothers, fathers, husbands, wives etc who lost their "trivial 68" loved ones
Obviously! I can tell that you are reasonable from your posts here so please continue to use it.
What causes 1000s of families to grieve is literally 10-100 times more important.
Terrorism is a non-issue in the scheme of things.
"Numbers don't lie. I can't deny that. In the grand scheme of things, 68 people next the numbers you quoted or even next to the 7 billion in the world is less than a drop in the ocean. *However* the difference (and let's stick with Europe, as per the report details), all those other thousands of people made choices that (possibly) wholly or partly contributed to their death. There's risks in health choices, in getting in a car, in enlisting as a soldier, and they're usually being taken by the individual themselves. In the case of terror victims, someone with a twisted version of ideology goes out and *intentionally* takes lives of innocent, unsuspecting people who were just going about what we should all be able to do without having to expect some hateful zealot to come and end it all in a split second. *Because of that*, I, personally, think that, even 1 person dead, is too much. If we were viewing all these people (in all categories of deaths mentioned) as numbers though, then yes, 68 is low compared to the rest. But still...
Btw, and to address some of the "oh yeah, it's always the Irish. Look at you Brits" comments, I never implied (or, even, meant to) that the Irish are terrorists. The report only gives numbers and locations, not names/nationalities and types of incidents. I was, simply, *genuinely* surprised to hear (and then read) that over half of the terror attacks/incidents in Europe happened in the UK and the vast majority of them in NI. We don't hear/read about it normally, hence why it came as a surprise. That's all. | |||
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"I get the distinction, but there are hidden low probability risks everywhere....the stage collapsing at a concert, a plane falling from the sky, salmonella in your chocolate, hiv from a swinging partner even with confom use. No one gets out alive anyway. I wonder how the people of invaded countries feel? I can't help thinking that the west has invited terrorism to its own door...not that you or I had anything to do with it, but there's a lot to be learned about the problems of intervention for our governments. Peace is the only answer and step 1 is minding your own business. Violence begets violence...always...there's always a thirst for revenge that takes generations to die. We've see this kind of low level bitterness from my fellow countryman above. 68 out of 504 million in Europe is a tiny risk no matter what you look at it. " Yes but all the things you mention in your first paragraph are deaths caused by accidents. Some possibly foreseeable, some not. A terrorist causes death intentionally. Anyway, I agree with your 2nd paragraph. The reason why I cannot make (or accept) the distinction, I guess, is because I can't stand fanatics at the best of times (from football to politics). But when that fanaticism crosses the thin line to extremism and causes deaths that would have possibly not happened otherwise, it really depresses me, especially when you consider that, because of the changing climate in politics, it'll only get worse. | |||
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"But you have to ask why we put such emphasis on the terrorism cases....it's more emotive that's why! The terrorists win. " and less frequent. Ergo news. | |||
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