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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Historically Portugal but now I would say it's probably France. You've also got to consider Canada, Australia, India etc, anyone loyal to the commonwealth. |
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It's becoming increasingly clear that the "special relationship" with the US is more one-sided and based largely on wishful thinking and/or our need to beg for a trade deal.
While the big, orange buffoon is in charge and takes his allies for granted by treating/talking to them like shit, choosing instead to cozy up to dictators, it's more obvious/important than ever to keep the best relationship with our true and loyal allies: our neighbours in Europe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The US is our biggest ally .
Burn that stupid blimp .it makes us look like we are morons .its not funny ."
This is exactly why he blimp funny. Annoying right-wingers, fascists and people who support them is always good sport. |
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"The US is our biggest ally .
Burn that stupid blimp .it makes us look like we are morons .its not funny ."
It's quite funny if you have a sense of humour..
Burning things that you don't agree with is a tad intolerant.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s quite funny if you’re a spotty unemployable herbert or a middle aged loser who still lives with his mother. Most people would just consider the organisers to be embarrassing themselves |
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"It’s quite funny if you’re a spotty unemployable herbert or a middle aged loser who still lives with his mother. Most people would just consider the organisers to be embarrassing themselves "
Correct, and no one more so than Mayor S Khan! |
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"It’s quite funny if you’re a spotty unemployable herbert or a middle aged loser who still lives with his mother. Most people would just consider the organisers to be embarrassing themselves "
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"Following on from the USA s greatest Ally thread .
Who would you say is the UK s greatest Ally ?
EU
Absolutely not the EU. We have never liked them and they have never liked us."
Speak for yourself mate. I like the EU and believe that they like us too. |
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"It’s quite funny if you’re a spotty unemployable herbert or a middle aged loser who still lives with his mother. Most people would just consider the organisers to be embarrassing themselves
Correct, and no one more so than Mayor S Khan!"
Personally I don't find it particularly funny or awful; just a bit of political satire. I just wish Spitting Image was still around, I'd love to see what puppet they'd make for Donald.
Get a grip guys. If the Donald can't handle a bit of satire then he really isn't a suitable person to be the leader of the free world. |
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It's not satire when you invite a world leader to your capital city and the mayor allows an balloon designed to insult him to fly over the city.
It's like me inviting you to my house as a guest and putting a balloon outside, showing you as fat, hairy, pasty, in a cheap suit, nasty tie and crumpled shirt.
It's not the way you should treat a guest. |
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"It’s quite funny if you’re a spotty unemployable herbert or a middle aged loser who still lives with his mother. Most people would just consider the organisers to be embarrassing themselves "
Think you'll find it will appeal to many demographics within this country, but of course continue to display your lack of such things..  |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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Political satire has been a mainstay of British comedy for centuries, the blimp is simply an extension of it. If he is too thin skinned for it, he doesn't have to come, but why should the British public have to change centuries of tradition just for him? |
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"It's not satire when you invite a world leader to your capital city and the mayor allows an balloon designed to insult him to fly over the city.
It's like me inviting you to my house as a guest and putting a balloon outside, showing you as fat, hairy, pasty, in a cheap suit, nasty tie and crumpled shirt.
It's not the way you should treat a guest."
The bloke is a moronic racist, add in his shitty views on women and disabled people amongst others and he is fair game..
Ironic that the far right as well as many of his other supporters are screaming outrage over satire and the right to freely exhibit he is not popular with all here..
Free speech.. |
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"Political satire has been a mainstay of British comedy for centuries, the blimp is simply an extension of it. If he is too thin skinned for it, he doesn't have to come, but why should the British public have to change centuries of tradition just for him? "
Rubbish. You're only saying that because you are very left wing and you hate Trump.
It's rude and offensive and it is not what any host should ever do.
We have hosted far worse leaders of him, who have committed far worse atrocities than he has, but never have we allowed such an insult as this.
And it has left us and Khan in particular as a laughing stock, because it allowed Trump and Guiliani to say that London is a hell-hole, with a worse knife-crime rate than NYC, and Khan should concentrate on sorting that out, rather than allowing insult stunts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's not satire when you invite a world leader to your capital city and the mayor allows an balloon designed to insult him to fly over the city.
It's like me inviting you to my house as a guest and putting a balloon outside, showing you as fat, hairy, pasty, in a cheap suit, nasty tie and crumpled shirt.
It's not the way you should treat a guest.
The bloke is a moronic racist, add in his shitty views on women and disabled people amongst others and he is fair game..
Ironic that the far right as well as many of his other supporters are screaming outrage over satire and the right to freely exhibit he is not popular with all here..
Free speech.. "
Sure.
It’s just not funny. Or even satire. Good advertising for the makers of the balloon though I’m sure |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"It’s quite funny if you’re a spotty unemployable herbert or a middle aged loser who still lives with his mother. Most people would just consider the organisers to be embarrassing themselves "
I’m neither, and frankly find it fucking hilarious. The amount of bullshit Trump tweets and the pops him and his lapdogs at Fox ‘News’ have at the U.K., I think it is well warranted.
-Matt |
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"It's not satire when you invite a world leader to your capital city and the mayor allows an balloon designed to insult him to fly over the city.
It's like me inviting you to my house as a guest and putting a balloon outside, showing you as fat, hairy, pasty, in a cheap suit, nasty tie and crumpled shirt.
It's not the way you should treat a guest.
The bloke is a moronic racist, add in his shitty views on women and disabled people amongst others and he is fair game..
Ironic that the far right as well as many of his other supporters are screaming outrage over satire and the right to freely exhibit he is not popular with all here..
Free speech..
Sure.
It’s just not funny. Or even satire. Good advertising for the makers of the balloon though I’m sure "
One person's funny is another's not and satire does require a bit of thought sometimes..
Maybe with some that's the issue.. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Political satire has been a mainstay of British comedy for centuries, the blimp is simply an extension of it. If he is too thin skinned for it, he doesn't have to come, but why should the British public have to change centuries of tradition just for him?
Rubbish. You're only saying that because you are very left wing and you hate Trump.
It's rude and offensive and it is not what any host should ever do.
We have hosted far worse leaders of him, who have committed far worse atrocities than he has, but never have we allowed such an insult as this.
And it has left us and Khan in particular as a laughing stock, because it allowed Trump and Guiliani to say that London is a hell-hole, with a worse knife-crime rate than NYC, and Khan should concentrate on sorting that out, rather than allowing insult stunts."
It's not rubbish at all, look at some of the political satire here, from British politicians like Clegg and Cameron to the leaders of Germany, Russia, N Korea and others.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-29915270
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Following on from the USA s greatest Ally thread .
Who would you say is the UK s greatest Ally ?
EU
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We definitely have had a more consistent valuable relationship with the EU.
Although I understand why more people voted for Brexit, it's a pity we seem to be burning our bridges too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s quite funny if you’re a spotty unemployable herbert or a middle aged loser who still lives with his mother. Most people would just consider the organisers to be embarrassing themselves
I’m neither, and frankly find it fucking hilarious. The amount of bullshit Trump tweets and the pops him and his lapdogs at Fox ‘News’ have at the U.K., I think it is well warranted.
-Matt"
Hilarious? Oh dear |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's not satire when you invite a world leader to your capital city and the mayor allows an balloon designed to insult him to fly over the city.
It's like me inviting you to my house as a guest and putting a balloon outside, showing you as fat, hairy, pasty, in a cheap suit, nasty tie and crumpled shirt.
It's not the way you should treat a guest.
The bloke is a moronic racist, add in his shitty views on women and disabled people amongst others and he is fair game..
Ironic that the far right as well as many of his other supporters are screaming outrage over satire and the right to freely exhibit he is not popular with all here..
Free speech..
Sure.
It’s just not funny. Or even satire. Good advertising for the makers of the balloon though I’m sure "
I'm sure you don't need to white knight Trump, I'm certain he is thick skinned enough for this not to bothe-----
Oh, right.
Yes, please, do continue. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Absolutely not the EU. We have never liked them and they have never liked us."
Who is this "we" you speak on behalf of?
The irony of Brexit can be found in the history of the British isles.
A fragmented land mass now joined together in a single currency, a single market, with freedom of movement - economic and political union tightly controlled from the centre.
Minority languages, customs and cultures abolished by law.
All to create a uniform system.
Now, there were people who opposed that, not least in the 18th and 19th centuries.
You'll find most of their descendants now in places like Australia and Canada - brutally transported at the end of a gun so that the ruling elite could create their United States of Britain.
Today, of course, this is great. We all think it is a wonderful place - economic, political and monetary union.
Whatever the faults of the EU, it operates by consensus, not by brutal imposition on pain of execution and exile of those who question the plan. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""We" as in the UK
And who makes the "consensus"?
It operates by dictat from unelected bureaucrats, which is why it is now starting to collapse."
MEPs are elected. As are the national ministers who sit on the Council of the European Union, and the commissioners are directly appointed by the democratically elected governments of all EU nations.
Try again. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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""We" as in the UK
And who makes the "consensus"?
It operates by dictat from unelected bureaucrats, which is why it is now starting to collapse."
Collapse?
Yes, the loss of the UK is a setback.
But collapse? No.
Operates by dictat?
Do you understand the governance of the EU and the Commission, and the role of the Council of Ministers?
All of it is rooted in the democracies of the 28 members.
Those governments vote in the Council of Ministers. Those policies are implemented by the Commission and overseen by the Commissioners appointed by the 28 democracies.
From memory, the UK voting record is something like 85 per cent on the side of the majority.
So 85 per cent of things transacted by the EU have been done with the active support of the UK Government.
I guess every system of governance has it flaws,
Do you have a better system for 28 democracies working together?
Or would you prefer them squabbling at their borders?
Been there, done that. Millions dead.
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"It's not satire when you invite a world leader to your capital city and the mayor allows an balloon designed to insult him to fly over the city.
It's like me inviting you to my house as a guest and putting a balloon outside, showing you as fat, hairy, pasty, in a cheap suit, nasty tie and crumpled shirt.
It's not the way you should treat a guest."
Except that she's not invited him to *her* house excusively. If he was visiting as a private person, I don't think many people would have demonstrated. But he's visiting in his political capacity and people are demonstrating in oposition to some of his policies. In addition, I don't remember Theresa having a referendum to ask all of us whether we'd like to invite him over.
It's like you live in a block of flats and you invite Farage to your home. The fact that you're the chairman of the residents' association for that building doesn't mean that the other residents can't or shouldn't protest in any way they see fit, within the law, just because *you* saw it fit to invite him, especially since you didn't bother asking them.
If anything, the fact that Trump doesn't like people protesting, makes the protests even more justified because, unlike his dictator-like attitude, here in the UK we don't gag people who disagree with us. |
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""We" as in the UK
And who makes the "consensus"?
It operates by dictat from unelected bureaucrats, which is why it is now starting to collapse."
Equally we did not elect anyone to cabinet nor did we have a say in who sits on select committee nor in the lords..
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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""We" as in the UK
And who makes the "consensus"?
It operates by dictat from unelected bureaucrats, which is why it is now starting to collapse.
Equally we did not elect anyone to cabinet nor did we have a say in who sits on select committee nor in the lords..
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It is the equivalent here of looking at the civil service and permanent secretaries, closing your eyes to who they are accountable to, and declaring Britain is a dictatorship run by unelected bureaucrats.
Fake news. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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""We" as in the UK
And who makes the "consensus"?
It operates by dictat from unelected bureaucrats, which is why it is now starting to collapse.
Equally we did not elect anyone to cabinet nor did we have a say in who sits on select committee nor in the lords..
It is the equivalent here of looking at the civil service and permanent secretaries, closing your eyes to who they are accountable to, and declaring Britain is a dictatorship run by unelected bureaucrats.
Fake news."
Well "bureaucrats" shouldn't be elected, they should be professionals and experts in their area. It's the politicians who are elected. |
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""We" as in the UK
And who makes the "consensus"?
It operates by dictat from unelected bureaucrats, which is why it is now starting to collapse.
Equally we did not elect anyone to cabinet nor did we have a say in who sits on select committee nor in the lords..
It is the equivalent here of looking at the civil service and permanent secretaries, closing your eyes to who they are accountable to, and declaring Britain is a dictatorship run by unelected bureaucrats.
Fake news."
This.. ??
The faux outrage of some is pathetic, all it exhibits is hypocrisy or is it just ignorance of how our system works..? |
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