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"Do you agree with Trump that he has the right to pardon himself for colluding with the Russians? " Yup | |||
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"Is this roughly when he makes himself "chancellor for life"?" just until he ironically gets whacked by some of these 'good guys with guns' that he keeps waffling on about | |||
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"Do you agree with Trump that he has the right to pardon himself for colluding with the Russians? Yup" Nope. The US constitution says that no one can serve as their own judge and this is part of what formed the decision in the 70's that said that Nixon was unable to pardon himself. Nixon resigned 4 days later. Pardons also dont have to wait till a guilty verdict, you can be pardoned in advance but accepting a pardon can only be done if you accept you are guilty which is why Donny hasnt even attempted it yet. Pardons are also only done at the federal level by the president so if he was charged under state law it is the governer who would be able to grant a pardon in this case. Good luck getting the Democratic governer (who's eyeing a 2020 presidential bid) to pardon Donny if hes charged and/or convicted in New York. A pardon also would not free him from any impeachment proceedings. If he pardoned himself it would mean he accepts he's guilty and that would put huge pressure on Congress to pardon an admitted offender. Also his actions as candidate could still be seen as conspiracy against the United States (treason) regardless of what happened later when he won the election. | |||
"His lawyers also claim as President he cant conspire against himself nor can congress impeach him and that as President he can order all law enforcement to halt any investigation including ones into the President. Next he will be claiming he has the right to suspend elections and the constitution. Well the yanks selected a serial fraudster and organised crime front-man for money launderer, so they now get to find out how hard it is to winkle out gangsters when they find a way into public life." They say there is no God ,maybe it is Trump he will tell us on twitter soon lol | |||
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"So trump can shoot anyone dead. Trump has also said he can pardon himself. Nobody has seen Melania for a few weeks. " You need to get out more if celebrity gossip is now your thing. | |||
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"Do you agree with Trump that he has the right to pardon himself for colluding with the Russians? " in theory to receive a pardon meant that person person has admitted the offence..... so it would be an admission of guilt i want him to do it... because i think the next day he would be impeached... so he isn't that crazy!!!! | |||
"He likes to pardon. Last week Kim Kardashian West visited the White House to discuss criminal justice reform with Trump and lobby him for the release of Alice Marie Johnson, a black great-grandmother who was jailed for life without parole in 1997 . After his meeting with Kim, President Trump decided to ignore her and instead pardon a right-wing troll Dinesh D’Souza, a far-right conspiracy theorist who is known for saying things like ‘Obama is a gay Muslim,’ ‘Black people are thugs,’ ‘The Charlottesville rally was staged.’ Kim got played ... " Or not. | |||
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"He likes to pardon. Last week Kim Kardashian West visited the White House to discuss criminal justice reform with Trump and lobby him for the release of Alice Marie Johnson, a black great-grandmother who was jailed for life without parole in 1997 . After his meeting with Kim, President Trump decided to ignore her and instead pardon a right-wing troll Dinesh D’Souza, a far-right conspiracy theorist who is known for saying things like ‘Obama is a gay Muslim,’ ‘Black people are thugs,’ ‘The Charlottesville rally was staged.’ Kim got played ... " Really ? Bit premature that wasn't it ! | |||