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What’s your view on Nigel Farage? Did he save Britain from the EU?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not sure what you are asking. The title suggests a completely different topic to the question you pose on the first post.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm not sure what you are asking. The title suggests a completely different topic to the question you pose on the first post. "

I know I’m asking both questions because he is on LBC talking shit lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is this another bi thread Op?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Is this another bi thread Op?"

Loool no it’s not lol

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By *uddlybear2015Man over a year ago

BEDFORD

The man's a self publicising twat.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?"

I'd like to be a fly on the wall in a locked room with Nigel and Harry. Say that to his face Nigel,I double dare you.

My money's on Nigel getting his ass whupped.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Give the man a knighthood

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Give the man a knighthood "

100% agree with this. Nigel Farage should be given a knighthood for what he has done for this country. His hard work and dedication over the last 20 to 30 years to getting the UK out of the EU should be recognised and rewarded.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Such dry with, you have.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We quite like Nigel, he's alright and makes a lot of sense. Just wish he didn't bail on UKIP! He would have made a much better prime minister than the Muppets in charge now!

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By *aren1956TV/TS over a year ago

Fakenham

"We quite like Nigel, he's alright and makes a lot of sense. Just wish he didn't bail on UKIP! He would have made a much better prime minister than the Muppets in charts now!

Agreed!

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

Personally I am glad his party did not do well recently and I hope that he does not feel the need to make a come back. He would fit in better with the Trump administration and I believe he offered to help out as a go-between a few months ago.

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By *htcMan over a year ago

"Give the man a knighthood "

Agreed.

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By *TheBoneMan over a year ago

Bury, Lancashire

"Give the man a knighthood

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Like UKIP or not, everyone complains about other parties not doing what they said they were going to do.

UKIP did exactly what they said they were going to do. (The clue is in their name)

To me they were a glass cannon party, a one trick pony, one bullet in the chamber.

One shot, then implode.

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By *radleywigginsMan over a year ago

northwest

"Like UKIP or not, everyone complains about other parties not doing what they said they were going to do.

UKIP did exactly what they said they were going to do. (The clue is in their name)

To me they were a glass cannon party, a one trick pony, one bullet in the chamber.

When you’ve achieved 100% of your manifesto that’s what’s going to happen.

Talking about a guy here who almost singlehandedly brought about the biggest constitutional change in a century, and had the establishment politicians shitting themselves as he sat on nearly 30% in the opinion polls?

Have Cameron, Brown, Clegg improved their reputations in the same time??

Ukip’s Problems have not been caused by uncle Nigel. If his personal integrity could be called into question (expenses scandal anyone?) was then I’m sure our left wing hippy media would have bought him down years ago

One shot, then implode. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He is very clever guy, he worth more than what he gets, after all he made 52% people to agree with him... Powerful than many other British politicians ...

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By *ocbigMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"I'm not sure what you are asking. The title suggests a completely different topic to the question you pose on the first post.

I know I’m asking both questions because he is on LBC talking shit lol"
so question(s) answered then.

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By *ocbigMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Give the man a knighthood

Please tell me this is irony. The man has lived off European money for how long as an MEP ...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Awful man, who is self-interested and morally questionable imo

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By *L RogueMan over a year ago

London

"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?"

Is he chatting shit again?

Surprise he's still getting air time since his party's dead.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He is very clever guy, he worth more than what he gets, after all he made 52% people to agree with him... Powerful than many other British politicians ...

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not as powerful as the new leader who’s sweeping the country who will never stand for parliament,who comes from the terraces in Luton

#freespeech

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

Can't stand the man as a man but now even the Italians look they they are giving Brussels the heave ho.

#started the rot.

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By *edgehogMan over a year ago

Swansea

He's a cunt.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?"

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's a cunt."

Why?

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By *ocbigMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"He's a cunt.

Why?"

If you have to ask the question, you won't understand the answer....

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By *oungYorkscoupleCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Think he is a top man and should have stuck with what he was doing.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Think he is a top man and should have stuck with what he was doing."
^ This

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By *atcherwankerMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Think he is a top man and should have stuck with what he was doing."

Drawing a hefty wage from the EU he claimed to hate so much and rarely bothering to turn up at work in Brussels and actually represent his electorate, the people he claimed so vigorously to be the champion of?

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By *edgehogMan over a year ago

Swansea

"He's a cunt.

Why?

If you have to ask the question, you won't understand the answer...."

Well this but also, one good example is his ease with using rehashed nazi propaganda. Yes he did. Look it up.

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

"Can't stand the man as a man but now even the Italians look they they are giving Brussels the heave ho.

#started the rot."

Surely that means he started removing the rot, the EU became rotten and a power grab by lots of unelected folk on a gravy train. Follow the money.

A shame really, as in principle there's so much that could have or should have been achieved.

Farage is the Clarkson figure of politics, will always divide opinion, but in media speak he's good copy and many programmes and articles have been published as a result of this. There are plenty of more powerful people who couldn't generate the press he does, welcome or not.

Time to play the ball and not the man, attacking him doesn't win any arguments, his policies maybe, I (mr) think that's where Remain went wrong in the referendum.

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By *ulfilthmentMan over a year ago

Just around the corner

"Give the man a knighthood

Does that include his contribution to fucking over our fishermen by refusing to engage with the EU fisheries committee, which was his actual job when he was a Euro MP? Asking for a fisherman’s friend.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Would have been better if he hadn’t have survived the plane crash. But he’s vermin so obviously scurried out and survived!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We quite like Nigel, he's alright and makes a lot of sense. Just wish he didn't bail on UKIP! He would have made a much better prime minister than the Muppets in charge now!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Give the man a knighthood

What he and myself believe in is by getting out of the EU we would claim back the rights of our waters and so there's no need to talk about what's ours end of .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hope harry knocks his teeth out for talking shit.Or gets the secret service to fuck him up.Nigel being a defender of the right to be racist seems to have issues with Megan's ethnicity.Harry has already stepped in over the racism his wife has recieved.Some people just have to hate .

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By *entish79Man over a year ago

Glasgow

Sure Nige, because Megan has no other redeeming features. At all.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"What he and myself believe in is by getting out of the EU we would claim back the rights of our waters and so there's no need to talk about what's ours end of ."

It’s really reassuring, when your future has been completely fucked over, that the people responsible ‘believe’ in something, rather than having a firm grasp of the facts.

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?"

What you’ve got to ask yourself is . Would the queen have allowed William heir to the throne to marry Meghan Markle ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?

What you’ve got to ask yourself is . Would the queen have allowed William heir to the throne to marry Meghan Markle ? "
Isn't harry 6th in line .

What i would like to know is Nigel speaking to his core voters and do people in the country really have an issue with her being mixed race.Is Nigel representative of the feelings of the British people regards interracial marriage.?

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?

What you’ve got to ask yourself is . Would the queen have allowed William heir to the throne to marry Meghan Markle ? Isn't harry 6th in line .

If Farage was the concensus . UKIP wouldn’t be a dead in the water party

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

If Farage was the concensus . UKIP wouldn’t be a dead in the water party "
This!

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Think he is a top man and should have stuck with what he was doing.

Seems you completely missed the point of why people voted for him. They voted for him because they wanted out of the EU. Farage and ukip achieved it. Mission accomplished.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can we all just agree that a certain subsection of the vote for brexit were a bunch of racists and that, if we sensibly discount those votes, remain won

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can we all just agree that a certain subsection of the vote for brexit were a bunch of racists and that, if we sensibly discount those votes, remain won

Nope, we won't agree. Remain lost the vote, accept and finally move on

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally i think Farage is an absolute bell end yet he managed to convince many into a false sense of security and somehow managed to convince half the UK nation to vote brexit.

I for one was a remainer. I have my reasons and im sure that those who remained leave had theirs too.

What im intrigued though is to those that did vote leave and with whats happened since. How many would vote the same or change decision?

Clearly a lot of what was promised isnt going to happen and those who voted based on more jobs, less immigrants, more money for the NHS are all naive if they honestly thought it was going to happen.

Time will tell if the UK has made the right decision.

As for Farage, i wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire. Racist prick

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can we all just agree that a certain subsection of the vote for brexit were a bunch of racists and that, if we sensibly discount those votes, remain won

Nope, we won't agree. Remain lost the vote, accept and finally move on

Darn you pesky brexiters! Always bringing up the inconvenient result of the referendum! Grrr

I shall have to return to machinating for the overthrow of democracy instead

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Utter utter Bell Whiffer!

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By *entish79Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Can we all just agree that a certain subsection of the vote for brexit were a bunch of racists and that, if we sensibly discount those votes, remain won

Nope, we won't agree. Remain lost the vote, accept and finally move on

Yeah because that’s what the anti EU crowd like Farage who had been moaning for years would have have done. They would have gracefully accepted it and never spoken of it again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I voted remain.

Farage is a twat.

If there was a referendum tomorrow, I would vote leave.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The man who sent the UK down the pan

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He is very clever guy, he worth more than what he gets, after all he made 52% people to agree with him... Powerful than many other British politicians ...

No that was the rich oligarchs and media owners who did that. What's more you swallowed it all.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. "

Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

He's a self-aggrandising narcissist and an utter hypocrite.

Yet I suppose you have to...I don't know, admire is the wrong word...marvel I guess, at the outright gall of the man.

He positions himself as the 'man of the people' and outsider to the 'elite establishment' and 'media elite' yet went to one of the most exclusive schools in the country, worked as a trader in the City, and has written several articles for almost every major newspaper and hosts a radio show.

I'm not sure if he's utterly lacking in any self-awareness whatsoever or just blatantly taking the piss out of the people that fall for his shit.

Fair play though, you can't argue the fact that he's been one of the most influential politicians in recent memory

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By *athy1Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible.

Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.

The biggest raciest bastard him and his party

Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind

Can’t stand the evil twat

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

A man who is so anti foreigners he married one and so pro Briton he failed to serve in the forces is now talking down one of the Royal family who has served our country on the front line in war and his wife because of the colour of her skin. The man is a hypocritical disgrace and the sooner he fucks off to join his mate Donny the better!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible.

Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.

The biggest raciest bastard him and his party

Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind

Can’t stand the evil twat "

We don't "support" him as there's nothing to support. But we do agree with a lot of his views, not all, but a lot. As for being racist?!? Poor call of judgement there from you I'm afraid. But, your entitled to your opinion of others and we're sure you have good reason to say that, because if you didn't have good reason, it would say a lot about your character

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By *orningtonCroissantMan over a year ago

notts and humberside

Cunt. C U N T

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Multiculturalism boils the blood of extreme brexiters.Now a beautiful mixed race women has married harry .The racists kippers and brexiters must hate this landmark moment in British society.Nigel's response to this is very telling...

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By *athy1Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible.

Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.

The biggest raciest bastard him and his party

Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind

Can’t stand the evil twat

Will reiterate he is a raciest

That may say a lot about your character

So do you have a good reason for supporting racism because we don’t like people that do

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS over a year ago

Burton on Trent

"Give the man a knighthood

Can see it now. For services to hate and devision, for failing to do the one job he was actually elected to a parliament to do, and for forcing the country down a potentially ruinous path.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

he's a hypocritical racist that the silent majority wouldn't miss if he was removed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible.

Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.

The biggest raciest bastard him and his party

Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind

Can’t stand the evil twat

Will reiterate he is a raciest

That may say a lot about your character

So do you have a good reason for supporting racism because we don’t like people that do "

But you don't know us? Your basically calling us racist based on your own judgement of Nigel Farage and claiming that anyone who "supports" him is a racist?!?!

The man is a fucking genius for what he achieved in accumulating support to get our arses out of the EU. That we supported then and support right now and only time will prove it was the right thing to do.

As for the racist thing, you know nothing about us or anyone who "supports" Nigel Farage (or more accurately voted leave) and we really couldn't care for your opinion of us as we don't know you and never will

But, we respect your opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Kippers are complicit in the racism and hatred and division that Nigel represents.To deny he hasn't sown the seeds of xenophobic hatred in this country is akin to viewing the world through a rose tinted sphincter.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"The man is a fucking genius for what he achieved in accumulating support to get our arses out of the EU. That we supported then and support right now and only time will prove it was the right thing to do."

This is one of the most desperately misguided things I’ve read. Nigel Farage, a ‘fucking genius’? Oh dear. Time will tell, indeed...

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By *uietbloke67Man over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Russian stooge

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People scream about how he should get a Knighthood.

Tell you what, put it to a public Vote on whether he should or not, he seems to like that concept - except when someone asks him to support constituents campaigning against fracking across the UK.

Seriously though, if after a decade once we officially leave, we can say objectively that Brexit has improved every metric of quality of life for the average citizen, then fair play, we should consider it.

Though, I think he ought to ease of on the cigs and booze if he wants to see that day.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple over a year ago

London

Farage is one of those odious people who, whilst they may not be racist themselves, are quite well aware that a large part of their support base is and are thus willing to do the necessary dog whistles to convince said base that they are really one of them. See also Powell E.

There's a special place in hell reserved for people like that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is one of the most desperately misguided things I’ve read. Nigel Farage, a ‘fucking genius’? Oh dear. Time will tell, indeed..."

In your opinion, but we have ours which is different. But as you quoted time will tell, only then will we know

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

Actually, no. Some of us know already.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Actually, no. Some of us know already."

That's great

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By *uckymooMan over a year ago

Mid-Cheshire

"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible.

Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.

The biggest raciest bastard him and his party

Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind

Can’t stand the evil twat "

I like him

I voted leave

Im am not racist at all

I find thatgeneralisation is really offensive and very very uninformed

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By *athy1Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible.

Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.

The biggest raciest bastard him and his party

Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind

Can’t stand the evil twat

I like him

I voted leave

Im am not racist at all

I find thatgeneralisation is really offensive and very very uninformed "

You may well like him but he is raciest as was his party as is most of his followers

I wouldent piss on the cunt if he was on fire a DUSGUSTING Man

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"raciest"

Saucy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible.

Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.

The biggest raciest bastard him and his party

Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind

Can’t stand the evil twat

I like him

I voted leave

Im am not racist at all

I find thatgeneralisation is really offensive and very very uninformed "

It's a little hot for snowflakes.

You are complicit in kipper xenophobia .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He certainly polarised opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist"

Can you give examples of why UKIP is a racist party ?

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

This wasn’t about racism was it ? It was about Farage and him securing Brexit . I believe UKIP to be a dead in the water party . However he played a big part in securing the Brexit vote . I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Does it make anyone racist for wanting more border control ? Of course not . I’ve never voted for UKIP in a by election or a general , but I believed some of his views ,, not all to be right

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all ."

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all .

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo."

Here he is, authority on everything.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"Does it make anyone racist for wanting more border control ? Of course not ."

Well, that rather depends on what exactly it is you want ‘more’ control over.

Out of interest, what do you think was wrong with our border control as it was. How do you think we should handle the border between NI and RoI. How do you expect to deal with the mass exodus of our migrant workforce?

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

"Does it make anyone racist for wanting more border control ? Of course not .

Well, that rather depends on what exactly it is you want ‘more’ control over.

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all .

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo."

It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all .

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo.

It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

Touché

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By *uietbloke67Man over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all .

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo.

It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

Touché "

Bit of an over simplification and tabloid journalism sensationalism there bearing fruit in someone mind.

What does that tell you about British Justice then though if it cant stand up to scrutiny in a democratic court.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all .

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo.

It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

Touché

Bit of an over simplification and tabloid journalism sensationalism there bearing fruit in someone mind.

What does that tell you about British Justice then though if it cant stand up to scrutiny in a democratic court."

Touché or touchy, not sure which one.

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all .

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo.

It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

Touché "

I thought it was the allseeing eyenot THUMB ..... maybe change his name to the oracle

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all .

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo.

It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

Touché

Bit of an over simplification and tabloid journalism sensationalism there bearing fruit in someone mind.

What does that tell you about British Justice then though if it cant stand up to scrutiny in a democratic court.

Touché or touchy, not sure which one. "

Over simplification ? Try telling that to the families of the Manchester bombings . A misguided suicidebomber radicalised in our own back yard by the likes of Hamzah the Hook . The cleric who preached race hate on our streets and it took 13 attempts to get him off our shores because of the European court of human rights

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

First of all, you were talking about ‘initiating’ and ‘instigating’. Those are very different from appealing decisions made in court. Our laws are initiated and instigated here. Written here. Debated here. Enacted here. Enforced here.

As forthe European Court of Appeal, no haven’t heard of that. I have heard of the European Court of Justice, and the European Court of Human Rights, though. Is that what you meant? I’m going to go ahead , make a bold assumption, and assume that you mean the latter.

Like it or not, rights are there for everyone, even ‘every slimeball’ although not their dogs. I think you’ve got a slightly skewed perception of the number of cases that succeed, compared to the number of cases going through our courts on a daily basis.

However, very often, it takes the people you don’t like to challenge things that results in revision of the law that’s better for all. There’s a case, Cadder v HMA, which I imagine is the kind of ‘slimeball’ you’re talking about. The result is that Scotland now has vastly improved criminal justice legislation that improves Police investigatory powers, while tightening up loopholes for the ne’er-do-wells. That’s a good thing, isn’t it?

You do realise that decisions are only overturned if they were found to be wrong in the first place, right? Based on a system of rights largely written by U.K. lawmakers in the first place?

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By *uietbloke67Man over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all .

Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo.

It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

Touché

Bit of an over simplification and tabloid journalism sensationalism there bearing fruit in someone mind.

What does that tell you about British Justice then though if it cant stand up to scrutiny in a democratic court.

Touché or touchy, not sure which one.

Whilst not agreeing with the message Hamzah preached and don't forget neither of us where there to hear his preaching, we only have the stories of our national press to use as fact, and we now know what they can do.

In democracy you hear things you might not like or agree with, as long as you don't preach violence (and courts of the UK and Europe eventually agreed he did), then that's democracy.

Hamzah told lies at street level to a very very small minority. Our so called free press do it nationally daily on an industrial scale.

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By *uietbloke67Man over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Then there’s the milestone 10,000th judgment – Takhayeva v Russia. In the dead of night, armed persons entered the home of a family living in Chechnya, verbally and physically abused them, and abducted a member of the family. The ECtHR found that Russia had breached the right to life, the right to liberty, and had engaged in inhuman treatment.

Is that a bad example if the court??

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple over a year ago

Dudley

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

You do realise that decisions are only overturned if they were found to be wrong in the first place, right? Based on a system of rights largely written by U.K. lawmakers in the first place?"

He’s been on Google again.

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"Then there’s the milestone 10,000th judgment – Takhayeva v Russia. In the dead of night, armed persons entered the home of a family living in Chechnya, verbally and physically abused them, and abducted a member of the family. The ECtHR found that Russia had breached the right to life, the right to liberty, and had engaged in inhuman treatment.

Is that a bad example if the court??"

Absolutely not and I agree with you . But what do you want to do , sit here and debate all cases since it’s formation in1961 ? Anyone can pull a case out and hold it as a exemplar for human rights .European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system . As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge. I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ?

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system ."

Where’s the evidence for this? Yes, the British Court system is antiquated, but there’s nothing to suggest that ECtHR is making it any worse. As a system of identifying flaws that need to be addressed, it’s doing particularly well.

"As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge."

You are right. It is very unfortunate that those who did vote motivated by racism/xenophobia tended to vote on one side. I wouldn’t suggest that you are racist based on how you voted. I would, however, suggest that the non-xenophobic arguments for Brexit stand up about as well as the xenophobic ones.

"I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ? "

A case in point. What do you mean by ‘more control’? Post-Brexit we will have significantly less control over a number of matters. As for the NI border issue, I would have hoped you would have some idea what the answer is when you confidently voted for more control over it.

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system .

As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge.

I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ?

Why would I have the answer to the border point when you clearly have no answer to points that I and others have raised in this forum . You’ve shown a ‘politicians” disregard for certain statements by being very selective with the quotes from my posts . I gave you an example of the weakness in our system that allows a hate preacher to hide behind an appeals procedure that slows down our already slow system .

I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system .

As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge.

I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ?

I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty "
Can i borrow your crystal ball mystic meh? Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face.

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

"European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system .

As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge.

I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ?

I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty Can i borrow your crystal ball mystic meh? Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face."

I don’t need a crystal ball fella it’s old news Greece on its arse , bailed out by the rest of us . Spain and Italy on the verge .... I don’t need a crystal ball . It’s not about hate or wanting other eu members to fail

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"Why would I have the answer to the border point when you clearly have no answer to points that I and others have raised in this forum . You’ve shown a ‘politicians” disregard for certain statements by being very selective with the quotes from my posts . I gave you an example of the weakness in our system that allows a hate preacher to hide behind an appeals procedure that slows down our already slow system .

Which points would you like addressed? With regard to Abu Hamza; which rights that he used to prolong his stay would you like to do without? I addressed this when I pointed out that these rights are there to protect everyone, including you, and they were largely written by U.K. lawmakers. It’s also worth pointing out that we have ECHR because we’re a member of the Council of Europe. It’s got nothing to do with the EU. We aren’t leaving the Council of Europe, so we will still be bound by ECHR.

I’ve done my best to address points without repeating what others have said. I’m certainly not the one dodging the point on how, exactly, anyone could vote to have ‘more control over our borders’ without having a clue how that would be achieved.

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By *urve BallWoman over a year ago

North London

"Farage is one of those odious people who, whilst they may not be racist themselves, are quite well aware that a large part of their support base is and are thus willing to do the necessary dog whistles to convince said base that they are really one of them. See also Powell E.

There's a special place in hell reserved for people like that. "

Precisely

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

"It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .

You do realise that decisions are only overturned if they were found to be wrong in the first place, right? Based on a system of rights largely written by U.K. lawmakers in the first place?"

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

" Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face."
I do not understand that either. Perhaps an element of envy in some. Mind you not all Brexiters, just some.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face.I do not understand that either. Perhaps an element of envy in some. Mind you not all Brexiters, just some. "

In their twisted little universe it somehow justifies brexit.

They hate the EU with such venom,it blinds them to anything rational.

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

In their twisted little universe it somehow justifies brexit.

They hate the EU with such venom,it blinds them to anything rational. "

It's not about being rational.

Joining was forced upon us and even then we never accepted being ruled and giving away our liberties to the Eurocrats.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"Joining was forced upon us..."

So, the 1975 referendum...

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

"Joining was forced upon us...

So, the 1975 referendum..."

Not the referendum but how it's being run.

The Germans have far too much power and run the show.

Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist?

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple over a year ago

Dudley

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

"
Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!

I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!

I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again."

did you vote kipturd? if as you say you didn't then it must be a guilt thing or why would you feel the need to respond to the kipturds being correctly labeled as racist

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Joining was forced upon us...

So, the 1975 referendum..."

We joined in 1973. There was no referendum in 1973 on whether the country wanted to join.

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

We are the evil bitch girlfriend who has decided to walk out but not only are we walking out because we no longer want our long term partner we want no one else to have them either so we are looking to do the maximum damage possible as we leave.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple over a year ago

Dudley

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!

I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again.

did you vote kipturd? if as you say you didn't then it must be a guilt thing or why would you feel the need to respond to the kipturds being correctly labeled as racist"

I will put it in plain english so you can understand

Vote Ukip- No

Feel guilty- No

I am responding to someone who continually uses the race card to try and stop debate.

I hope you can understand that!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Joining was forced upon us...

So, the 1975 referendum...

Not the referendum but how it's being run.

The Germans have far too much power and run the show.

Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves.

"
You'll find your grandparents fought against Nazis and racism and fascism and would be horrified at you kippers and the xenophobic Nationalism.My grandfathers gutted the far right on the beaches of Normandy and wouldn't of pissed on a kipper if he was on fire.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can you give examples of why UKIP is a racist party ?"

Still waiting

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!

I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again."

Blair and Brown and then the hopeless Miliband played the racist card against Farage and ukip so often it became meaningless. It was used so often it was seen as a bit of a joke in the end, a bit like the boy who cried wolf.

Sad that these same Labour supporters who seem to end every sentence by calling someone a racist can't even recognise how racist the Labour party has now become under the leadership of Corbyn with anti semitism rife in the party.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!

I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again.

did you vote kipturd? if as you say you didn't then it must be a guilt thing or why would you feel the need to respond to the kipturds being correctly labeled as racist

I will put it in plain english so you can understand

Vote Ukip- No

Feel guilty- No

I am responding to someone who continually uses the race card to try and stop debate.

I hope you can understand that!

racist guilt can be the only reason for you appologism of a known racist party .... otherwise why the fuck would any decent unpstanding person perservere with the defense of racism? your choice .... continue with the racist defense or condemn racism and condemn the known racist kiptard party ... simple

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

"Joining was forced upon us...

So, the 1975 referendum...

Not the referendum but how it's being run.

The Germans have far too much power and run the show.

Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves.

You'll find your grandparents fought against Nazis and racism and fascism and would be horrified at you kippers and the xenophobic Nationalism.My grandfathers gutted the far right on the beaches of Normandy and wouldn't of pissed on a kipper if he was on fire.

Wtf is a kipper

Try living in the real world sprechen de deutsche?

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

Im not justifying them not being racist I’m justifying that a vote for Brexit does NOT make a person a racist .... who said anything about Guilt ? Your words not mine fella . Get your facts right and if you’d read the thread from the start this had nothing to do with racism

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty

It's the European Court of Justice which pertains to membership of the EU. Suggest you do some research and educate yourself a bit.

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

"Joining was forced upon us...

So, the 1975 referendum...

Not the referendum but how it's being run.

The Germans have far too much power and run the show.

Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves.

Wtf is a kipper

Try living in the real world sprechen de deutsche?"

And our grandparents fought to save us fron oppression.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

apart from you continuing to defend the known to be racist kiptard party

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Appreciate this is a UKIP / Farage thread ... but these lil squabbles do no one any favours.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Joining was forced upon us...

So, the 1975 referendum...

Not the referendum but how it's being run.

The Germans have far too much power and run the show.

Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves.

Wtf is a kipper

Try living in the real world sprechen de deutsche?

And our grandparents fought to save us fron oppression."

So stop being racist and oppressive..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So stop being racist and oppressive..

tremendous post

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

apart from you continuing to defend the known to be racist kiptard party

This is your answer to close any argument down, but you still haven’t backed it up with facts!

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple over a year ago

Dudley

Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!

My sentiments entirely

Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!

I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again.

did you vote kipturd? if as you say you didn't then it must be a guilt thing or why would you feel the need to respond to the kipturds being correctly labeled as racist

I will put it in plain english so you can understand

Vote Ukip- No

Feel guilty- No

I am responding to someone who continually uses the race card to try and stop debate.

I hope you can understand that!

You sound like a really decent upstanding person always trying to label people racist because they don't agree with you! No apologies or guilt needed from me!

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By *athy1Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

All ukippers have racial element in them

They just st don’t want to admit it

Fuck the lit of you

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Joining was forced upon us...

So, the 1975 referendum...

Not the referendum but how it's being run.

The Germans have far too much power and run the show.

Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves.

Wtf is a kipper

Try living in the real world sprechen de deutsche?

And our grandparents fought to save us from oppression."

My grandfather was in the RAF during WW2 and another relative of mine was in the parachute regiment. They both fought for this country to remain a free, independent sovereign country, something which we could never be in the EU. They didn't fight that war for chinless wonders like Blair and Cameron to come along and offer UK sovereignty over to the EU on a plate. Millions of Brits died for this country to remain free and independent. When the country voted Leave in 2016 it was Farage who coined the phrase 'independence day' as we regained our freedom, sovereignty and independence from the EU. A great day in British history which i will celebrate every year for the rest of my life and Farage played a huge part in it. We owe Farage a debt of gratitude.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple over a year ago

Dudley

"All ukippers have racial element in them

They just st don’t want to admit it

Fuck the lit of you "

There speaks the voice of reason!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You sound like a really decent upstanding person"
.... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple over a year ago

Dudley

You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists

I have neither defended or apologised for racists you are just reading that in to it as the really decent upstanding person you claim to be!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists

If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.

absolutely superlative post

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Point proven once again.The alt right are a lower case KKK.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists

No substance to your arguments, just accusing people without anything to back it up with, show me the facts !

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

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By *athy1Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century"

Bollocks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century"

blowing the trumpet for confirmed racists

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By *athy1Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century"

Blow the tuba that’s full of wind as well

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists

No substance to your arguments, just accusing people without anything to back it up with, show me the facts !"

I don't know Bambi ,i seem to remember a brexiter standing over the lifeless body of Joe Cox and hours before ukip unveiled its breaking point poster.If you think Kippers didn't whip up murderous xenophobic hatred you are incredibly ignorant and an apologist.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

blowing the trumpet for confirmed racists "

Tedious

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i seem to remember a brexiter standing over the lifeless body of Joe Cox and hours before ukip unveiled its breaking point poster.If you think Kippers didn't whip up murderous xenophobic hatred you are incredibly ignorant and an apologist."

accurate facts ... excellent post

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By *athy1Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists

No substance to your arguments, just accusing people without anything to back it up with, show me the facts !

Spot on I hope the kippers understand this evil fuckers

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By *riefcase_WankerMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

Bollocks "

I can't abide the man, but I'd happen to agree...

I might quibble over the 'important' bit, but I think there's a bloody string case for most influential. Consider who the competition are: Blair - legacy (in a nutshell) was New Labour and the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, the former being fairly significant and the latters par for the course. Brown - unfairly blamed for the GFC, little real legacy to speak of. Cameron and Osborne - austerity. May - fuck all.

Who has had the same level of impact on British politics since 2000? Nobody really.

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

... and he's a monumentally racist bellend

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

Bollocks

I can't abide the man, but I'd happen to agree...

Who has had the same level of impact on British politics since 2000? Nobody really."
I can see where you are coming from - would just like to add that there are people in this country who continue to change it forever and for better. Attenborough is one of them.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

... and he's a monumentally racist bellend

Oh, I hate the fucker, but I think it's a fair comment - he probably *is* the most influential politician of the 21st Century, sad to say

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

... and he's a monumentally racist bellend

Guess what was on his word of the day toilet roll this morning !

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

... and he's a monumentally racist bellend

Oh, I hate the fucker, but I think it's a fair comment - he probably *is* the most influential politician of the 21st Century, sad to say"
I think he is (was) rather one of the loudest. That does not make him the most influential in the long term though. You could argue Angela Merkel has been very influential,too (whether you like her or not is irrelevant) Time will tell I guess.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh, I hate the fucker, but I think it's a fair comment - he probably *is* the most monumental racist bellend"

FIFY .... no need to thank me

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

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By *riefcase_WankerMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

... and he's a monumentally racist bellend

Oh, I hate the fucker, but I think it's a fair comment - he probably *is* the most influential politician of the 21st Century, sad to sayI think he is (was) rather one of the loudest. That does not make him the most influential in the long term though. You could argue Angela Merkel has been very influential,too (whether you like her or not is irrelevant) Time will tell I guess.

I was assuming we were talking British politicians, but I take your point

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things.Different century"
I am aware of that, I was just giving (negative) examples of some politicians who were said to have shaped their country. And lets face it in 2018 we are not even a quarter through this century and there are people like Trump competing for the title.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future

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You think he is in competition with Trump?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future

That's hyperbole

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future

You think he is in competition with Trump?

no ... i know he's a racist bellend

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"Joining was forced upon us...

So, the 1975 referendum...

We joined in 1973. There was no referendum in 1973 on whether the country wanted to join."

Quite. There aren’t referendums in many things that the country does. There was the 1975 referendum, though, which indicated significant support fro remaining in the EEC, at about 2:1. If it was ‘forced’ upon the populace, against their will, you would think that result would be somewhat different, wouldn’t you?

"It's the European Court of Justice which pertains to membership of the EU. Suggest you do some research and educate yourself a bit. "

I think you have misunderstood. The topic at hand (forgive the pun) was Abu Hamza, whose delayed extradition somebody had raised as an example of why we should leave the EU. His extradition was delayed by ECtHR, based on ECHR, which has nothing to do with the EU. I was pointing out why it is a bad example. You are right that ECJ pertains to EU law, but it has nothing to do with what was being discussed. You might want to check what you’re saying before you tell me to educate myself.

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future

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He is married to a German lady

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future

He is married to a German lady"

so was adolf hitler and he was marignally less of a monumentally racist bellend ... but thanks for your thoughts caller

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

Rivetting

No wonder so many complain about not getting meets when there are posts like these

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century

Bollocks

I can't abide the man, but I'd happen to agree...

Who has had the same level of impact on British politics since 2000? Nobody really.I can see where you are coming from - would just like to add that there are people in this country who continue to change it forever and for better. Attenborough is one of them."

Outside of politics our academics like Attenborough and hawkings and professor Brian Cox have a positive influence on our culture and globally we are respected for nurturing and giving such educators to the world.Farage isn't a global player or an intellectual and represents nothing positive.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Outside of politics our academics like Attenborough and hawkings and professor Brian Cox have a positive influence on our culture and globally we are respected for nurturing and giving such educators to the world.Farage isn't a global player or an intellectual and represents nothing positive."

true ... he's just a less than average fat sweaty racist bastard

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"Rivetting

No wonder so many complain about not getting meets when there are posts like these

Nice. You stay classy.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?"
I don't have Prince Harry on speed dial so I don't know . I might suggest a plausible alternative though. Maybe they love each other .

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple over a year ago

Dudley

"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future

He is married to a German lady

so was adolf hitler and he was marignally less of a monumentally racist bellend ... but thanks for your thoughts caller

I doubt you would think that if you had been in one of his concentration camps!

What a ridiculous comment to make, try to engage your brain before typing, thats if you have one!

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By *xplicitlyricsMan over a year ago

south dublin

Hes an irrelevance now and wasnt even responsible for Brexit. That was Camerons fault because he got overconfident and put himself before his country. At least Cameron resigned when he realised how badly he let his people down.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Never understood why Faragebis accused of been a Racist ?

He was the first and only politician to advocate Christian Syuan Refugees to come here , as they were in most danger .

He supported Gurkha Rights .

He banned any former BNP members from joining UKIP .

He wants to leave the EU to trade more with the rest of the World , especially the Comonwealth !

Mainly Black and Asian !

Hmmmm how very Racist .

Oh and he's married to a German .

Or is it that he has Right Wing Views and isn't a Lefty ?

Galloway is a Brexiteer , strange how that Anti Semite is never called Racist isn't it ?

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