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How many know the difference with real laws and fake statutes
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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For example
can anyone say under what law says you cannot film in public or record/ take photos of private companies from public footpaths ?
Under what law tell you you cannot record in a shopping Mall ?
Every wondered why its ok for them to stick CCTV cams all over the place and film you but no no may god you cant use your camera or phone to record a video in public ?
No law states you cant but again its upto you lot to decide many wont ever challenge or question it just do as your told such a shame many are willing to give up their rights |
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"can anyone say under what law says you cannot film in public or record/ take photos of private companies from public footpaths ?"
Public Order Act...
If what you are doing in a public place causes or may cause a 'breach of the peace' then you are committing a criminal offence. You may also be 'Obstructing a Public Highway'...
"Under what law tell you you cannot record in a shopping Mall?"
A shopping mall is private property and you need the owners permission to carry out any act on private property. The owner or their agents can ask you to stop recording and require you to leave their property. Failing to do so is a civil offence, however the property owner can call the police if you refuse to leave and again we are into public order offences.
So the question is not so much what is or is not legal but at what point actions (or inaction's) become criminal offences under public order legislation.
Of course if you are recording within 400 mtrs (I think, but not quite sure) or line of sight of an establishment covered by the Anti-Terrorism Act or Official Secrets Act (which includes all military establishments, most government buildings, arms manufacturers and sites of national strategic importance (like airports, railways, roads or bridges...)(I believe your local Chief Constable gets to decide what goes on that list) then you are committing an offence under said 'Anti-Terrorism Act' and may be convicted of preparing information for an act of terrorism.
I may not be fully up to date, but I am sure someone will correct me if I am mistaken in my beliefs. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"can anyone say under what law says you cannot film in public or record/ take photos of private companies from public footpaths ?
Public Order Act...
If what you are doing in a public place causes or may cause a 'breach of the peace' then you are committing a criminal offence. You may also be 'Obstructing a Public Highway'...
Under what law tell you you cannot record in a shopping Mall?
A shopping mall is private property and you need the owners permission to carry out any act on private property. The owner or their agents can ask you to stop recording and require you to leave their property. Failing to do so is a civil offence, however the property owner can call the police if you refuse to leave and again we are into public order offences.
So the question is not so much what is or is not legal but at what point actions (or inaction's) become criminal offences under public order legislation.
Of course if you are recording within 400 mtrs (I think, but not quite sure) or line of sight of an establishment covered by the Anti-Terrorism Act or Official Secrets Act (which includes all military establishments, most government buildings, arms manufacturers and sites of national strategic importance (like airports, railways, roads or bridges...)(I believe your local Chief Constable gets to decide what goes on that list) then you are committing an offence under said 'Anti-Terrorism Act' and may be convicted of preparing information for an act of terrorism.
I may not be fully up to date, but I am sure someone will correct me if I am mistaken in my beliefs."
You quoted an Act not law you gonna learn the difference then again its your choice hehehe
Statues/acts need consent
Now if you would like to try again this time dont quote acts i am asking you under what law states you cannot film in public ? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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Ok i will give you a wee example of this
Right in London at Kings Cross there is a Harry Potter shop thats private property but do you ever see any of their staff say my god you weans can never film in this store
Same with the Harry Potter Studios private property you really think they have the power to say no filming in here get real
there is no law that states you cant it make up pish you make you believe there is but then again do as you please i dont care its you that is giving up all your rights |
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And here we go again...
In the States there are plenty who try the same shit on with State police and judges claiming they were not driving they were travelling...
They still end up in jail with criminal records.
Being governed and policing by consent are fictions, and always has been a fiction. There is an iron fist inside the police leather glove. If you do not believe me go to youtube and look at the footage of the 'battle of Orgreave' and when the police are not enough then they call in the army. For that look at the 'Bloody Sunday' footage or read up about the Peterloo Massacre. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"And here we go again...
In the States there are plenty who try the same shit on with State police and judges claiming they were not driving they were travelling...
They still end up in jail with criminal records.
Being governed and policing by consent are fictions, and always has been a fiction. There is an iron fist inside the police leather glove. If you do not believe me go to youtube and look at the footage of the 'battle of Orgreave' and when the police are not enough then they call in the army. For that look at the 'Bloody Sunday' footage or read up about the Peterloo Massacre."
I see you love giving up your rights and never think about questioning it or challenging it nice wee goody too shoes eh lol
You can choice to believe me or not i dont care but think it about you're not breaking the law just tell them you're not going to stop and if they lay one hand on you or your property you'll phone the police
once they lay one hand on you that assault (Common Law) the real laws of the land
Oh and btw have you looked up the definition of driving and traveling its all in the law books are you claiming thats made up bullshit ?
I bet you think people dont own their property eh lol if they bought and paied for it yes it really is their property
but then again its upto you if you choose not to believe fair enough you back down and give away your rights i dont care |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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Btw i noticed you couldnt state any laws you named Acts but not laws
So maybe this time you could under what ''LAW'' states you cant film in public places ? Remember film is still pictures in frames lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh and btw thats other thing people really should question there is a big difference between legal and lawful "
You like watching all the you tube videos dont you.
Social experiment is good so is the love police, my fave is a guy called Charlie Veitch very funny.
However I do agree with you that there is no law that states you cannot film on public, I will disagree on filming on private property, you cannot film inside the building you need permission for that, but you can film the outside of the building.
If people complain that you are causing distress harrasment or harm though, then the police will be called and they can stop you filming, |
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Not many people know why they can't do the things they're told they can't do. It's part general ignorance, part trust that those reasons are there for the common good. And that is part of policing with consent.
There are so many laws out there that no one can hope to be aware of them all. That's why lawyers specialise in the different fields.
But your general everyday stuff, like traffic, public order, everyone knows where the lines are pretty much and they chose to cross them or not. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Oh and btw thats other thing people really should question there is a big difference between legal and lawful
You like watching all the you tube videos dont you.
Social experiment is good so is the love police, my fave is a guy called Charlie Veitch very funny.
However I do agree with you that there is no law that states you cannot film on public, I will disagree on filming on private property, you cannot film inside the building you need permission for that, but you can film the outside of the building.
If people complain that you are causing distress harrasment or harm though, then the police will be called and they can stop you filming, "
Who said i watch those videos ? Can no one look this shit up now ?
God paranoid much |
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"Oh and btw thats other thing people really should question there is a big difference between legal and lawful
You like watching all the you tube videos dont you.
Social experiment is good so is the love police, my fave is a guy called Charlie Veitch very funny.
However I do agree with you that there is no law that states you cannot film on public, I will disagree on filming on private property, you cannot film inside the building you need permission for that, but you can film the outside of the building.
If people complain that you are causing distress harrasment or harm though, then the police will be called and they can stop you filming,
Who said i watch those videos ? Can no one look this shit up now ?
God paranoid much"
I said your watching chief its blatantly obvious from your posts
Thats why you you never post links to your information its all off you tube
At least when people disagree with you they post links showing why they disagree
But you call them bullys and brown noses and worse
My opinion your the biggest bully on here |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Kinky believes he's a "Freeman" and can do whatever he likes. No "Freeman" action has ever suceeded in court, because Common Law recognises Statute Law as being supreme."
Freeman ? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Oh and btw thats other thing people really should question there is a big difference between legal and lawful
You like watching all the you tube videos dont you.
Social experiment is good so is the love police, my fave is a guy called Charlie Veitch very funny.
However I do agree with you that there is no law that states you cannot film on public, I will disagree on filming on private property, you cannot film inside the building you need permission for that, but you can film the outside of the building.
If people complain that you are causing distress harrasment or harm though, then the police will be called and they can stop you filming,
Who said i watch those videos ? Can no one look this shit up now ?
God paranoid much
I said your watching chief its blatantly obvious from your posts
Thats why you you never post links to your information its all off you tube
At least when people disagree with you they post links showing why they disagree
But you call them bullys and brown noses and worse
My opinion your the biggest bully on here"
Lmao ok whatever you say chief
Again no rule states you have to post links instead of being lazy maybe go find them yourself and if you want post them up debunking me your more than welcome to do that i bet you wont though lol |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law |
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law "
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself."
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too |
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By *omaMan
over a year ago
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You are quite within your rights to film anything or anyone as long as you are in a public place. . . Shopping malls are mostly private property, owned by development companies etc. Therefore it could be deemed as trespass by filming.
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too "
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech. "
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights |
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights "
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.  |
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system. "
Not quite, Kinky is above the law. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system. "
Whatever you chief if it helps you sleep at night thinking you have won pat on the back for you want a balloon ? lol
What part of its upto you if you believe me or not i dont really care if you do or not its you that is willing to give up your rights |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.
Not quite, Kinky is above the law."
And where have you saw me say this ? Lmao
I just stand up for my rights if you choose not to fair enough let them walk all over you i dont care lol |
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.
Not quite, Kinky is above the law.
And where have you saw me say this ? Lmao
I just stand up for my rights if you choose not to fair enough let them walk all over you i dont care lol"
Whatever chief (note the lowercase 'c') |
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.
Whatever you chief if it helps you sleep at night thinking you have won pat on the back for you want a balloon ? lol
What part of its upto you if you believe me or not i dont really care if you do or not its you that is willing to give up your rights "
So basically what you should have done, was make your initial post, and then asked admin to close the thread, as you don't want a discussion, just a short lecture on your incorrect version of things. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.
Whatever you chief if it helps you sleep at night thinking you have won pat on the back for you want a balloon ? lol
What part of its upto you if you believe me or not i dont really care if you do or not its you that is willing to give up your rights
So basically what you should have done, was make your initial post, and then asked admin to close the thread, as you don't want a discussion, just a short lecture on your incorrect version of things. "
Whatever you say eh chief lol |
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.
Whatever you chief if it helps you sleep at night thinking you have won pat on the back for you want a balloon ? lol
What part of its upto you if you believe me or not i dont really care if you do or not its you that is willing to give up your rights
So basically what you should have done, was make your initial post, and then asked admin to close the thread, as you don't want a discussion, just a short lecture on your incorrect version of things.
Whatever you say eh chief lol"
Please don't call me chief. When we both know you're using it as a replacement for the words you want to say but can't.
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over a year ago
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.
Whatever you chief if it helps you sleep at night thinking you have won pat on the back for you want a balloon ? lol
What part of its upto you if you believe me or not i dont really care if you do or not its you that is willing to give up your rights
So basically what you should have done, was make your initial post, and then asked admin to close the thread, as you don't want a discussion, just a short lecture on your incorrect version of things.
Whatever you say eh chief lol
Please don't call me chief. When we both know you're using it as a replacement for the words you want to say but can't.
Perhaps stop watching so much socialexperimentalist on YouTube eh? Particularly when it's his arguments you are using, not your own. "
No sorry i wont be told what i can and cant say from someone that thinks it ok to get nasty and name call and get very personal
And no calling someone chief is not name calling is Scottish banter lol |
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.
Whatever you chief if it helps you sleep at night thinking you have won pat on the back for you want a balloon ? lol
What part of its upto you if you believe me or not i dont really care if you do or not its you that is willing to give up your rights
So basically what you should have done, was make your initial post, and then asked admin to close the thread, as you don't want a discussion, just a short lecture on your incorrect version of things.
Whatever you say eh chief lol
Please don't call me chief. When we both know you're using it as a replacement for the words you want to say but can't.
Perhaps stop watching so much socialexperimentalist on YouTube eh? Particularly when it's his arguments you are using, not your own.
No sorry i wont be told what i can and cant say from someone that thinks it ok to get nasty and name call and get very personal
And no calling someone chief is not name calling is Scottish banter lol "
I haven't got nasty. I haven't called you a name. I've asked you you debate me on this issue, on a thread YOU started. You have failed to do this.
I've asked you to stop calling me chief, as I believe it's a substitute for words you would get banned for. And I personally don't like it, it's akin to when people call me "mate" in a passive aggressive manner.
And I know where you are getting your threads from. As I have just watched some YouTube videos from socialexperimentalist who uses EXACTLY the same words as you do in your threads. Almost like you've lifted them verbatim.
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law
Not sure where you are going with this remarkably familiar thread? As you are correct, there is nothing stopping someone filming in SOME public places. So it's not like you want to debate. You want to lecture and if anyone challenges you then you tell them to do their own research rather than prove your case yourself.
Hey if you dont like my threads move on from then and ignore them
Funny that as some clearly think there is a law that says you cannot film in public but when you ask them to say this so called law they answer with an act of parilament lmao
Btw you use some public places no no try all public places you can film and take photos if you would like to debunk me your welcome too
As I say, I have no idea where you're going with this. Once again, you're not inviting a debate, you just want to lecture with a pre-prepared answer.
I have to admit that perhaps I didn't express myself correctly. There are no laws saying you cannot film in a public space.
But there are public spaces where, AFTER you have started filming, you MAY be prosecuted under various acts.
So you may choose to film in a public space. But you would need to be aware that the subject included in any footage may cause you to be in breach of various acts.
Hope this helps, you may now jump in with your pre-prepared speech.
Acts need consent though you can choose to believe me or not doesnt bother me if you wanna give up all your rights
If you can't be bothered to put forward any case, then I've won. Just like the legal system.
Whatever you chief if it helps you sleep at night thinking you have won pat on the back for you want a balloon ? lol
What part of its upto you if you believe me or not i dont really care if you do or not its you that is willing to give up your rights
So basically what you should have done, was make your initial post, and then asked admin to close the thread, as you don't want a discussion, just a short lecture on your incorrect version of things.
Whatever you say eh chief lol
Please don't call me chief. When we both know you're using it as a replacement for the words you want to say but can't.
Perhaps stop watching so much socialexperimentalist on YouTube eh? Particularly when it's his arguments you are using, not your own.
No sorry i wont be told what i can and cant say from someone that thinks it ok to get nasty and name call and get very personal
And no calling someone chief is not name calling is Scottish banter lol
I haven't got nasty. I haven't called you a name. I've asked you you debate me on this issue, on a thread YOU started. You have failed to do this.
I've asked you to stop calling me chief, as I believe it's a substitute for words you would get banned for. And I personally don't like it, it's akin to when people call me "mate" in a passive aggressive manner.
And I know where you are getting your threads from. As I have just watched some YouTube videos from socialexperimentalist who uses EXACTLY the same words as you do in your threads. Almost like you've lifted them verbatim.
Feel free to report me if I'm upsetting you, it won't be the first time. "
Its Scottish banter dry your eyes
Grow up and learn to laugh eh lol
You asked which is a request sorry but i will never be told what i can and cnt say if you do not agree with it hey simply move on and ignore me and my threads then
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"can anyone say under what law says you cannot film in public or record/ take photos of private companies from public footpaths ?
Public Order Act...
If what you are doing in a public place causes or may cause a 'breach of the peace' then you are committing a criminal offence. You may also be 'Obstructing a Public Highway'...
Under what law tell you you cannot record in a shopping Mall?
A shopping mall is private property and you need the owners permission to carry out any act on private property. The owner or their agents can ask you to stop recording and require you to leave their property. Failing to do so is a civil offence, however the property owner can call the police if you refuse to leave and again we are into public order offences.
So the question is not so much what is or is not legal but at what point actions (or inaction's) become criminal offences under public order legislation.
Of course if you are recording within 400 mtrs (I think, but not quite sure) or line of sight of an establishment covered by the Anti-Terrorism Act or Official Secrets Act (which includes all military establishments, most government buildings, arms manufacturers and sites of national strategic importance (like airports, railways, roads or bridges...)(I believe your local Chief Constable gets to decide what goes on that list) then you are committing an offence under said 'Anti-Terrorism Act' and may be convicted of preparing information for an act of terrorism.
I may not be fully up to date, but I am sure someone will correct me if I am mistaken in my beliefs.
You quoted an Act not law you gonna learn the difference then again its your choice hehehe
Statues/acts need consent
Now if you would like to try again this time dont quote acts i am asking you under what law states you cannot film in public ? "
The Statute of Barmpot Fuckoff 1876 which states amongst other things that any person who talks utter bollocks about acts not being laws shall be certified a Barmpot and told to fuck off forthwith. |
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over a year ago
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"can anyone say under what law says you cannot film in public or record/ take photos of private companies from public footpaths ?
Public Order Act...
If what you are doing in a public place causes or may cause a 'breach of the peace' then you are committing a criminal offence. You may also be 'Obstructing a Public Highway'...
Under what law tell you you cannot record in a shopping Mall?
A shopping mall is private property and you need the owners permission to carry out any act on private property. The owner or their agents can ask you to stop recording and require you to leave their property. Failing to do so is a civil offence, however the property owner can call the police if you refuse to leave and again we are into public order offences.
So the question is not so much what is or is not legal but at what point actions (or inaction's) become criminal offences under public order legislation.
Of course if you are recording within 400 mtrs (I think, but not quite sure) or line of sight of an establishment covered by the Anti-Terrorism Act or Official Secrets Act (which includes all military establishments, most government buildings, arms manufacturers and sites of national strategic importance (like airports, railways, roads or bridges...)(I believe your local Chief Constable gets to decide what goes on that list) then you are committing an offence under said 'Anti-Terrorism Act' and may be convicted of preparing information for an act of terrorism.
I may not be fully up to date, but I am sure someone will correct me if I am mistaken in my beliefs.
You quoted an Act not law you gonna learn the difference then again its your choice hehehe
Statues/acts need consent
Now if you would like to try again this time dont quote acts i am asking you under what law states you cannot film in public ? The Statute of Barmpot Fuckoff 1876 which states amongst other things that any person who talks utter bollocks about acts not being laws shall be certified a Barmpot and told to fuck off forthwith."
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Ok here is a good one
under what law requires you to have id on you at all times ?
There isn't one.
I've never seen anyone claim that there is such a law in this country. "
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"Ok here is a good one
under what law requires you to have id on you at all times ?
There isn't one.
I've never seen anyone claim that there is such a law in this country.
Yet so much havent a clue and think if the police stop them and ask for id they have just to hand it over lol "
I've never seen any police stop someone and just ask for ID.
Think you've been watching too many cold war soviet spy dramas. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Ok here is a good one
under what law requires you to have id on you at all times ?
There isn't one.
I've never seen anyone claim that there is such a law in this country.
Yet so much havent a clue and think if the police stop them and ask for id they have just to hand it over lol
I've never seen any police stop someone and just ask for ID.
Think you've been watching too many cold war soviet spy dramas. "
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"Ok here is a good one
under what law requires you to have id on you at all times ?
There isn't one.
I've never seen anyone claim that there is such a law in this country.
Yet so much havent a clue and think if the police stop them and ask for id they have just to hand it over lol
I've never seen any police stop someone and just ask for ID.
Think you've been watching too many cold war soviet spy dramas.
Lol oh right cause you have never saw it then it doesnt happen eh lol good one "
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Ok here is a good one
under what law requires you to have id on you at all times ?
There isn't one.
I've never seen anyone claim that there is such a law in this country.
Yet so much havent a clue and think if the police stop them and ask for id they have just to hand it over lol
I've never seen any police stop someone and just ask for ID.
Think you've been watching too many cold war soviet spy dramas.
Lol oh right cause you have never saw it then it doesnt happen eh lol good one
Have you seen it happen? A policeman just walk up to someone and demand an ID?"
Yes
So let me get this right to understand you are you claiming because you have never saw this that means it never happens ?
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"Ok here is a good one
under what law requires you to have id on you at all times ?
There isn't one.
I've never seen anyone claim that there is such a law in this country.
Yet so much havent a clue and think if the police stop them and ask for id they have just to hand it over lol
I've never seen any police stop someone and just ask for ID.
Think you've been watching too many cold war soviet spy dramas. "
No, me neither, seeing as 1. We don't have government issued or mandated ID cards in this country, and 2. There is no law requiring people to carry ID in this country. |
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"Ok here is a good one
under what law requires you to have id on you at all times ?
There isn't one.
I've never seen anyone claim that there is such a law in this country.
Yet so much havent a clue and think if the police stop them and ask for id they have just to hand it over lol
I've never seen any police stop someone and just ask for ID.
Think you've been watching too many cold war soviet spy dramas.
Lol oh right cause you have never saw it then it doesnt happen eh lol good one
Have you seen it happen? A policeman just walk up to someone and demand an ID?
Yes
So let me get this right to understand you are you claiming because you have never saw this that means it never happens ?
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can anyone say under what law says you cannot film in public or record/ take photos of private companies from public footpaths ?
Under what law tell you you cannot record in a shopping Mall ?
Every wondered why its ok for them to stick CCTV cams all over the place and film you but no no may god you cant use your camera or phone to record a video in public ?
No law states you cant but again its upto you lot to decide many wont ever challenge or question it just do as your told such a shame many are willing to give up their rights "
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"So to be clear there is no law that states you cannot film in public places and even film private property from public places
If you disagree then please debunk me and tell me the law that states this
As so far you quotes acts but they aint law "
Yes they are, you are chatting bullshit prove they are not , if you don't then that's proof they are simples  |
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You quoted an Act not law you gonna learn the difference then again its your choice hehehe
Statues/acts need consent
Now if you would like to try again this time dont quote acts i am asking you under what law states you cannot film in public ? "
This is hilarious.
Ive never come across a sovcit in real life. Usually theyre just fun stories.
You know what the difference between a bill and an act is? A bill is the proposed law, an act is the bill turned into law.
Acts do not need consent either, unless you mean the consent of parliament, but even then you'd be incorrect because you can only call it an act once it is actually law so at that point parliaments consent is no longer needed. |
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You quoted an Act not law you gonna learn the difference then again its your choice hehehe
Statues/acts need consent
Now if you would like to try again this time dont quote acts i am asking you under what law states you cannot film in public ?
This is hilarious.
Ive never come across a sovcit in real life. Usually theyre just fun stories.
You know what the difference between a bill and an act is? A bill is the proposed law, an act is the bill turned into law.
Acts do not need consent either, unless you mean the consent of parliament, but even then you'd be incorrect because you can only call it an act once it is actually law so at that point parliaments consent is no longer needed."
It's my new favourite thing to watch. Just loads of videos of annoying people finding out they are entirely wrong when they get dragged screaming from their cars.
You'd think, if you found out you had all this wonderful legal power you never knew about, that you'd use it to make yourself richer or your life better.
But no, I won't tax my car, won't get a driving license, won't pay my TV license. Way to go guys! Living the dream. |
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A huge, wide open chasm of a thread title and then narrowed down very specifically to the activity of filming in a public place.
Certainly the op, from Scotland, will be covered by a different legal system to many others on Fab, from all over the world.
Are you looking for advice op, or about a specific operation, due to something that's happened? Are you referring to the UK, outside of Scotland? |
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"A huge, wide open chasm of a thread title and then narrowed down very specifically to the activity of filming in a public place.
Certainly the op, from Scotland, will be covered by a different legal system to many others on Fab, from all over the world.
Are you looking for advice op, or about a specific operation, due to something that's happened? Are you referring to the UK, outside of Scotland?"
It transpires that the OP classes himself as a sovereign citizen, or Freeman of the land. And therefore is not bound by any laws except common laws of theft or damage to property.  |
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"A huge, wide open chasm of a thread title and then narrowed down very specifically to the activity of filming in a public place.
Certainly the op, from Scotland, will be covered by a different legal system to many others on Fab, from all over the world.
Are you looking for advice op, or about a specific operation, due to something that's happened? Are you referring to the UK, outside of Scotland?
It transpires that the OP classes himself as a sovereign citizen, or Freeman of the land. And therefore is not bound by any laws except common laws of theft or damage to property. "
Which they say are not written down anywhere! |
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