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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So it seems that upon dragging us out of the EU, Mrs May's cabinet seems to be pitching to push the CommonWealth towards a similar economic Union.
Standardisation of regulations, to created more trust worthy supply chains and facilitate greater economic growth and innovation.
Legal body ensuring the standardisationsare enforced.
Cross national co-operation on issues such as sustainable energy, oceanic plastic removal, mutual infastructure investment.
Greater internal action upon corporate tax avoidance.
One of the complaints of those who campaigned for brexit was that it was too German centric.
Are we simply trying to push the common wealth to replace what we will lose, or is this occuring as the trading and cross investment policies the EU produced took European nations and made them wealthier? |
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"So it seems that upon dragging us out of the EU, Mrs May's cabinet seems to be pitching to push the CommonWealth towards a similar economic Union.
Standardisation of regulations, to created more trust worthy supply chains and facilitate greater economic growth and innovation.
Legal body ensuring the standardisationsare enforced.
Cross national co-operation on issues such as sustainable energy, oceanic plastic removal, mutual infastructure investment.
Greater internal action upon corporate tax avoidance.
One of the complaints of those who campaigned for brexit was that it was too German centric.
Are we simply trying to push the common wealth to replace what we will lose, or is this occuring as the trading and cross investment policies the EU produced took European nations and made them wealthier?"
You say "Dragging us out of the EU?" In case you forgot there was a referendum and the country made a democratic decision and voted to leave the EU. No one is dragging anyone anywhere. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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It’s all about control.
The UK never really liked the EU because it wasn’t in control.
The commonwealth is a poor substitute, but probably makes the buffoons leading the country think they are more in control.
And it plays to the nostalgia element of those who long for the comforts of a colonial past. |
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"So it seems that upon dragging us out of the EU, Mrs May's cabinet seems to be pitching to push the CommonWealth towards a similar economic Union.
Standardisation of regulations, to created more trust worthy supply chains and facilitate greater economic growth and innovation.
Legal body ensuring the standardisationsare enforced.
Cross national co-operation on issues such as sustainable energy, oceanic plastic removal, mutual infastructure investment.
Greater internal action upon corporate tax avoidance.
One of the complaints of those who campaigned for brexit was that it was too German centric.
Are we simply trying to push the common wealth to replace what we will lose, or is this occuring as the trading and cross investment policies the EU produced took European nations and made them wealthier?"
Like the EU, will there be complete freedom of movement?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So it seems that upon dragging us out of the EU, Mrs May's cabinet seems to be pitching to push the CommonWealth towards a similar economic Union.
Standardisation of regulations, to created more trust worthy supply chains and facilitate greater economic growth and innovation.
Legal body ensuring the standardisationsare enforced.
Cross national co-operation on issues such as sustainable energy, oceanic plastic removal, mutual infastructure investment.
Greater internal action upon corporate tax avoidance.
One of the complaints of those who campaigned for brexit was that it was too German centric.
Are we simply trying to push the common wealth to replace what we will lose, or is this occuring as the trading and cross investment policies the EU produced took European nations and made them wealthier?
You say "Dragging us out of the EU?" In case you forgot there was a referendum and the country made a democratic decision and voted to leave the EU. No one is dragging anyone anywhere. "
Factually correct however as time goes by we are discovering that some of the leave campaign may have broken the rules - so was it fair? Time will tell - albeit too late!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So it seems that upon dragging us out of the EU, Mrs May's cabinet seems to be pitching to push the CommonWealth towards a similar economic Union.
Standardisation of regulations, to created more trust worthy supply chains and facilitate greater economic growth and innovation.
Legal body ensuring the standardisationsare enforced.
Cross national co-operation on issues such as sustainable energy, oceanic plastic removal, mutual infastructure investment.
Greater internal action upon corporate tax avoidance.
One of the complaints of those who campaigned for brexit was that it was too German centric.
Are we simply trying to push the common wealth to replace what we will lose, or is this occuring as the trading and cross investment policies the EU produced took European nations and made them wealthier?
Like the EU, will there be complete freedom of movement? "
Possibly,who knows, many of the poorer and smaller commonwealth nations might push for this - most have called for visas being relaxed in exchange fr trade. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So it seems that upon dragging us out of the EU, Mrs May's cabinet seems to be pitching to push the CommonWealth towards a similar economic Union.
Standardisation of regulations, to created more trust worthy supply chains and facilitate greater economic growth and innovation.
Legal body ensuring the standardisationsare enforced.
Cross national co-operation on issues such as sustainable energy, oceanic plastic removal, mutual infastructure investment.
Greater internal action upon corporate tax avoidance.
One of the complaints of those who campaigned for brexit was that it was too German centric.
Are we simply trying to push the common wealth to replace what we will lose, or is this occuring as the trading and cross investment policies the EU produced took European nations and made them wealthier?
You say "Dragging us out of the EU?" In case you forgot there was a referendum and the country made a democratic decision and voted to leave the EU. No one is dragging anyone anywhere. "
I don't want a rehash of arguments had elsewhere, but lets be frank, not everyone voted leave endorsing the direction we are currently headed.
The quote Peter Hitchens who is a euroskeptic: "The problem with the question pitched on the ballot paper was that it was so open to interpretation it left nobody, in government or the public, with the responsibility to argue for certain decisions and a direction. There were no official manifestos which explicitly listed Law and Policy reformation, changes, or replacements, and therefore unlike an election, parties or groups have no manifesto to fall back upon. Other than to deliver leaving the European Union in some format."
Now, back to the discussion. Is Britain trying to replace the EU with her Common Wealth in which She can be topdog. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So it seems that upon dragging us out of the EU, Mrs May's cabinet seems to be pitching to push the CommonWealth towards a similar economic Union.
Standardisation of regulations, to created more trust worthy supply chains and facilitate greater economic growth and innovation.
Legal body ensuring the standardisationsare enforced.
Cross national co-operation on issues such as sustainable energy, oceanic plastic removal, mutual infastructure investment.
Greater internal action upon corporate tax avoidance.
One of the complaints of those who campaigned for brexit was that it was too German centric.
Are we simply trying to push the common wealth to replace what we will lose, or is this occuring as the trading and cross investment policies the EU produced took European nations and made them wealthier?
You say "Dragging us out of the EU?" In case you forgot there was a referendum and the country made a democratic decision and voted to leave the EU. No one is dragging anyone anywhere.
I don't want a rehash of arguments had elsewhere, but lets be frank, not everyone voted leave endorsing the direction we are currently headed.
The quote Peter Hitchens who is a euroskeptic: "The problem with the question pitched on the ballot paper was that it was so open to interpretation it left nobody, in government or the public, with the responsibility to argue for certain decisions and a direction. There were no official manifestos which explicitly listed Law and Policy reformation, changes, or replacements, and therefore unlike an election, parties or groups have no manifesto to fall back upon. Other than to deliver leaving the European Union in some format."
Now, back to the discussion. Is Britain trying to replace the EU with her Common Wealth in which She can be topdog."
Yes we probably Are ! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So it seems that upon dragging us out of the EU, Mrs May's cabinet seems to be pitching to push the CommonWealth towards a similar economic Union.
Standardisation of regulations, to created more trust worthy supply chains and facilitate greater economic growth and innovation.
Legal body ensuring the standardisationsare enforced.
Cross national co-operation on issues such as sustainable energy, oceanic plastic removal, mutual infastructure investment.
Greater internal action upon corporate tax avoidance.
One of the complaints of those who campaigned for brexit was that it was too German centric.
Are we simply trying to push the common wealth to replace what we will lose, or is this occuring as the trading and cross investment policies the EU produced took European nations and made them wealthier?
You say "Dragging us out of the EU?" In case you forgot there was a referendum and the country made a democratic decision and voted to leave the EU. No one is dragging anyone anywhere.
I don't want a rehash of arguments had elsewhere, but lets be frank, not everyone voted leave endorsing the direction we are currently headed.
The quote Peter Hitchens who is a euroskeptic: "The problem with the question pitched on the ballot paper was that it was so open to interpretation it left nobody, in government or the public, with the responsibility to argue for certain decisions and a direction. There were no official manifestos which explicitly listed Law and Policy reformation, changes, or replacements, and therefore unlike an election, parties or groups have no manifesto to fall back upon. Other than to deliver leaving the European Union in some format."
Now, back to the discussion. Is Britain trying to replace the EU with her Common Wealth in which She can be topdog. Yes we probably Are !"
And are you okay wil this?
Bit of a hypocrisy to try and bind several VERY different nations with standardised regulation when we were just rejecting it. |
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Halcyon days of empire that some may wish were still in place.
The Commonwealth - people that those in the UK have often used for their benefit. Think of the poor Windrush people, people invited to the UK to work in selected jobs, live and have children and pay their way: whilst their children etc, potentially denied cancer treatments or deported forcefully to a country that they didn't know and told to put on a 'Jamaican accent' etc to fit in. Theresa May was Home Secretary when laws were changed, resulting in thousands of people being threatened with being thrown out, similar to illegal immigrants. She was a disaster as Home Secretary, also setting up the hate and fear campaigns against immigrants and has followed a similar vein of incompetence as Prime Minister.
Not much choice for some nationals in many commonwealth countries but to be jailed, perhaps up to 25 years, if they have gay sex. Many LGBT people in the commonwealth get murdered - the UK doesn't care that much about the people, though they may spout false empathy at times.
They're driven to try to claim anything as positive, at the time that the brexit management has been catastrophic. Smoke and mirrors also going on too. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Halcyon days of empire that some may wish were still in place.
The Commonwealth - people that those in the UK have often used for their benefit. Think of the poor Windrush people, people invited to the UK to work in selected jobs, live and have children and pay their way: whilst their children etc, potentially denied cancer treatments or deported forcefully to a country that they didn't know and told to put on a 'Jamaican accent' etc to fit in. Theresa May was Home Secretary when laws were changed, resulting in thousands of people being threatened with being thrown out, similar to illegal immigrants. She was a disaster as Home Secretary, also setting up the hate and fear campaigns against immigrants and has followed a similar vein of incompetence as Prime Minister.
Not much choice for some nationals in many commonwealth countries but to be jailed, perhaps up to 25 years, if they have gay sex. Many LGBT people in the commonwealth get murdered - the UK doesn't care that much about the people, though they may spout false empathy at times.
They're driven to try to claim anything as positive, at the time that the brexit management has been catastrophic. Smoke and mirrors also going on too."
The law was actually changed in 2006. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Little Englanders and their commonwealth.Makes me want to puke.
No one is forcing you to stay ?"
Oh I decided to leave little Britain after the country went far right.
I've had an escape plan since brexit.I just have to stick around for 10 years and put kids through uni.By then mortgage is paid off.I then sail off into the sunset with a rum in hand.
Happy fucking days.. |
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"Little Englanders and their commonwealth.Makes me want to puke.
No one is forcing you to stay ? Oh I decided to leave little Britain after the country went far right.
I've had an escape plan since brexit.I just have to stick around for 10 years and put kids through uni.By then mortgage is paid off.I then sail off into the sunset with a rum in hand.
Happy fucking days.. "
Must be one of the longest escape plans in history!! Many talk the talk but few walk the walk, if it was that bad you would be off now and take your kids with you for the sake of their future!! |
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"Halcyon days of empire that some may wish were still in place.
The Commonwealth - people that those in the UK have often used for their benefit. Think of the poor Windrush people, people invited to the UK to work in selected jobs, live and have children and pay their way: whilst their children etc, potentially denied cancer treatments or deported forcefully to a country that they didn't know and told to put on a 'Jamaican accent' etc to fit in. Theresa May was Home Secretary when laws were changed, resulting in thousands of people being threatened with being thrown out, similar to illegal immigrants. She was a disaster as Home Secretary, also setting up the hate and fear campaigns against immigrants and has followed a similar vein of incompetence as Prime Minister.
Not much choice for some nationals in many commonwealth countries but to be jailed, perhaps up to 25 years, if they have gay sex. Many LGBT people in the commonwealth get murdered - the UK doesn't care that much about the people, though they may spout false empathy at times.
They're driven to try to claim anything as positive, at the time that the brexit management has been catastrophic. Smoke and mirrors also going on too.
The law was actually changed in 2006."
You beat me to it, and this was pointed out last night on BBC 2, Newsnight, so happened under the Blair Labour government years too. |
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By *ertwoCouple
over a year ago
omagh |
More lies told during the election by the remoners. The EU damaged the commonwealth with rules demanding we could not do our own trade deals with our friends in the common wealth. Other points a free vote toke us into the EEC/EU so a free vote is the right way to take us out. Our government will have millions to spend with in the UK instead of handing it over to the EU who give us about 60% back telling us how good they are to us lol lol  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Little Englanders and their commonwealth.Makes me want to puke.
No one is forcing you to stay ? Oh I decided to leave little Britain after the country went far right.
I've had an escape plan since brexit.I just have to stick around for 10 years and put kids through uni.By then mortgage is paid off.I then sail off into the sunset with a rum in hand.
Happy fucking days.. "
10 years ? Ah you want to bleed the system as much as you can and then leave ? 
10 years is a long time  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"More lies told during the election by the remoners. The EU damaged the commonwealth with rules demanding we could not do our own trade deals with our friends in the common wealth. Other points a free vote toke us into the EEC/EU so a free vote is the right way to take us out. Our government will have millions to spend with in the UK instead of handing it over to the EU who give us about 60% back telling us how good they are to us lol lol "
The UK joined the EU not ther other way around. The UK joined knowing that the commonwealth would have to be abandoned - we didn't care!
The rules were in place no exception -we looked after ourselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Little Englanders and their commonwealth.Makes me want to puke.
No one is forcing you to stay ? Oh I decided to leave little Britain after the country went far right.
I've had an escape plan since brexit.I just have to stick around for 10 years and put kids through uni.By then mortgage is paid off.I then sail off into the sunset with a rum in hand.
Happy fucking days..
10 years ? Ah you want to bleed the system as much as you can and then leave ?
10 years is a long time "
Typical brexiters who lack forward planning.Did any of the leave campaign plan for brexit..Did they fuck.Are any of you prepping for it to be a clusterfuck..Are you fuck..
If you fail to plan .You plan to fail.
I always plan...
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"Little Englanders and their commonwealth.Makes me want to puke.
No one is forcing you to stay ? Oh I decided to leave little Britain after the country went far right.
I've had an escape plan since brexit.I just have to stick around for 10 years and put kids through uni.By then mortgage is paid off.I then sail off into the sunset with a rum in hand.
Happy fucking days..
10 years ? Ah you want to bleed the system as much as you can and then leave ?
10 years is a long time
Typical brexiters who lack forward planning.Did any of the leave campaign plan for brexit..Did they fuck.Are any of you prepping for it to be a clusterfuck..Are you fuck..
If you fail to plan .You plan to fail.
I always plan...
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Just like the rest of us you will still be here when you draw your last breath, it's just a pipe dream! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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While I like the idea of the UK being a paternalistic hub for the commonwealth, allowing freedom of movement and offering trade deals which benefit them more than us ... and ones which we couldn’t offer while in the EU...
Something tells me many of the brexit voters would be less enamoured. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"Little Englanders and their commonwealth.Makes me want to puke.
No one is forcing you to stay ? Oh I decided to leave little Britain after the country went far right.
I've had an escape plan since brexit.I just have to stick around for 10 years and put kids through uni.By then mortgage is paid off.I then sail off into the sunset with a rum in hand.
Happy fucking days..
10 years ? Ah you want to bleed the system as much as you can and then leave ?
10 years is a long time
Typical brexiters who lack forward planning.Did any of the leave campaign plan for brexit..Did they fuck.Are any of you prepping for it to be a clusterfuck..Are you fuck..
If you fail to plan .You plan to fail.
I always plan...
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The remain side didn't plan for a leave outcome. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Halcyon days of empire that some may wish were still in place.
The Commonwealth - people that those in the UK have often used for their benefit. Think of the poor Windrush people, people invited to the UK to work in selected jobs, live and have children and pay their way: whilst their children etc, potentially denied cancer treatments or deported forcefully to a country that they didn't know and told to put on a 'Jamaican accent' etc to fit in. Theresa May was Home Secretary when laws were changed, resulting in thousands of people being threatened with being thrown out, similar to illegal immigrants. She was a disaster as Home Secretary, also setting up the hate and fear campaigns against immigrants and has followed a similar vein of incompetence as Prime Minister.
Not much choice for some nationals in many commonwealth countries but to be jailed, perhaps up to 25 years, if they have gay sex. Many LGBT people in the commonwealth get murdered - the UK doesn't care that much about the people, though they may spout false empathy at times.
They're driven to try to claim anything as positive, at the time that the brexit management has been catastrophic. Smoke and mirrors also going on too.
The law was actually changed in 2006.
You beat me to it, and this was pointed out last night on BBC 2, Newsnight, so happened under the Blair Labour government years too. "
As a centrist Conservative, it gives me no pride that this is happening on "our watch". It should have been sorted in 1971, when it was agreed that these immigrants and their families were given right of abode by law.
But it has happened and it's now important that it gets sorted out and quick. Fortunately, we appear to have cross party support and for that, we must be grateful. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"More lies told during the election by the remoners. The EU damaged the commonwealth with rules demanding we could not do our own trade deals with our friends in the common wealth. Other points a free vote toke us into the EEC/EU so a free vote is the right way to take us out. Our government will have millions to spend with in the UK instead of handing it over to the EU who give us about 60% back telling us how good they are to us lol lol "
What will we actually sell to the Common Wealth?
You realise most are not developed nations right?
Oh and what will we buy? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"While I like the idea of the UK being a paternalistic hub for the commonwealth, allowing freedom of movement and offering trade deals which benefit them more than us ... and ones which we couldn’t offer while in the EU...
Something tells me many of the brexit voters would be less enamoured. "
Disagree a fair bit but I appreciate your honest input. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Little Englanders and their commonwealth.Makes me want to puke.
No one is forcing you to stay ? Oh I decided to leave little Britain after the country went far right.
I've had an escape plan since brexit.I just have to stick around for 10 years and put kids through uni.By then mortgage is paid off.I then sail off into the sunset with a rum in hand.
Happy fucking days..
10 years ? Ah you want to bleed the system as much as you can and then leave ?
10 years is a long time
Typical brexiters who lack forward planning.Did any of the leave campaign plan for brexit..Did they fuck.Are any of you prepping for it to be a clusterfuck..Are you fuck..
If you fail to plan .You plan to fail.
I always plan...
The remain side didn't plan for a leave outcome."
Guys, rtis was not what the thread was about. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Little Englanders and their commonwealth.Makes me want to puke.
No one is forcing you to stay ? Oh I decided to leave little Britain after the country went far right.
I've had an escape plan since brexit.I just have to stick around for 10 years and put kids through uni.By then mortgage is paid off.I then sail off into the sunset with a rum in hand.
Happy fucking days..
10 years ? Ah you want to bleed the system as much as you can and then leave ?
10 years is a long time
Typical brexiters who lack forward planning.Did any of the leave campaign plan for brexit..Did they fuck.Are any of you prepping for it to be a clusterfuck..Are you fuck..
If you fail to plan .You plan to fail.
I always plan...
The remain side didn't plan for a leave outcome."
Quite right, but more important neither did leave! Hence we have wasted a year and the rhetoric "we are not going to show our hand" was because we didn't have a plan. Its a negotiation not a card game! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s all about control.
The UK never really liked the EU because it wasn’t in control.
The commonwealth is a poor substitute, but probably makes the buffoons leading the country think they are more in control.
And it plays to the nostalgia element of those who long for the comforts of a colonial past."
I am not sure if the colonies are nostalgic- we brits might be |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"It’s all about control.
The UK never really liked the EU because it wasn’t in control.
The commonwealth is a poor substitute, but probably makes the buffoons leading the country think they are more in control.
And it plays to the nostalgia element of those who long for the comforts of a colonial past.
I am not sure if the colonies are nostalgic- we brits might be "
Membership of the Commonwealth is purely voluntarily. Countries can withdraw at any time and go it alone. The fact that the majority haven't, says a lot about the strength and longevity of the organisation. |
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"It’s all about control.
The UK never really liked the EU because it wasn’t in control.
The commonwealth is a poor substitute, but probably makes the buffoons leading the country think they are more in control.
And it plays to the nostalgia element of those who long for the comforts of a colonial past.
I am not sure if the colonies are nostalgic- we brits might be
Membership of the Commonwealth is purely voluntarily. Countries can withdraw at any time and go it alone. The fact that the majority haven't, says a lot about the strength and longevity of the organisation."
I see it as one of those WhatsApp groups that you are part of only to know what’s going on but to participate actively it’s going to take something extra special. And trade with any of the countries will need to involve freedom to travel as already stated by India. |
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"Halcyon days of empire that some may wish were still in place.
The Commonwealth - people that those in the UK have often used for their benefit. Think of the poor Windrush people, people invited to the UK to work in selected jobs, live and have children and pay their way: whilst their children etc, potentially denied cancer treatments or deported forcefully to a country that they didn't know and told to put on a 'Jamaican accent' etc to fit in. Theresa May was Home Secretary when laws were changed, resulting in thousands of people being threatened with being thrown out, similar to illegal immigrants. She was a disaster as Home Secretary, also setting up the hate and fear campaigns against immigrants and has followed a similar vein of incompetence as Prime Minister.
Not much choice for some nationals in many commonwealth countries but to be jailed, perhaps up to 25 years, if they have gay sex. Many LGBT people in the commonwealth get murdered - the UK doesn't care that much about the people, though they may spout false empathy at times.
They're driven to try to claim anything as positive, at the time that the brexit management has been catastrophic. Smoke and mirrors also going on too.
The law was actually changed in 2006."
Complex issues, not a single point - made worse by Theresa May when she was in charge of the Home Office, and now PM. Eg. the landing cards from the people arriving - the Windrush generation and afterwards - were destroyed, seemingly by the Home Office who stated they decided to destroy them in 2010. Amber Rudd and Theresa May probably should not keep their jobs, if their management of the whole situation, which has been devastating for thousands of Brits, is just half as bad as it's getting clearer to have been.
The whole Brexit affair, the desperate attempts to assume that the Commonwealth will be the answer to all ills, when the official forecasts show that the UK will spend £billions each year, whichever of the 4 brexit options are pursued, with or without greater Commonwealth trade deals. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Halcyon days of empire that some may wish were still in place.
The Commonwealth - people that those in the UK have often used for their benefit. Think of the poor Windrush people, people invited to the UK to work in selected jobs, live and have children and pay their way: whilst their children etc, potentially denied cancer treatments or deported forcefully to a country that they didn't know and told to put on a 'Jamaican accent' etc to fit in. Theresa May was Home Secretary when laws were changed, resulting in thousands of people being threatened with being thrown out, similar to illegal immigrants. She was a disaster as Home Secretary, also setting up the hate and fear campaigns against immigrants and has followed a similar vein of incompetence as Prime Minister.
Not much choice for some nationals in many commonwealth countries but to be jailed, perhaps up to 25 years, if they have gay sex. Many LGBT people in the commonwealth get murdered - the UK doesn't care that much about the people, though they may spout false empathy at times.
They're driven to try to claim anything as positive, at the time that the brexit management has been catastrophic. Smoke and mirrors also going on too.
The law was actually changed in 2006.
Complex issues, not a single point - made worse by Theresa May when she was in charge of the Home Office, and now PM. Eg. the landing cards from the people arriving - the Windrush generation and afterwards - were destroyed, seemingly by the Home Office who stated they decided to destroy them in 2010. Amber Rudd and Theresa May probably should not keep their jobs, if their management of the whole situation, which has been devastating for thousands of Brits, is just half as bad as it's getting clearer to have been.
The whole Brexit affair, the desperate attempts to assume that the Commonwealth will be the answer to all ills, when the official forecasts show that the UK will spend £billions each year, whichever of the 4 brexit options are pursued, with or without greater Commonwealth trade deals."
Take it you didn't see PMQs today then? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The story of Dexter Bristol tells you all you need to know.
Mrs May you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.Treating British citizens as foreigners..Why because they are black. |
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"While I like the idea of the UK being a paternalistic hub for the commonwealth, allowing freedom of movement and offering trade deals which benefit them more than us ... and ones which we couldn’t offer while in the EU...
Something tells me many of the brexit voters would be less enamoured.
Disagree a fair bit but I appreciate your honest input."
Can you expand ? I’m always happy to explore my opinions so welcome a dissenting voice. |
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"Halcyon days of empire that some may wish were still in place.
The Commonwealth - people that those in the UK have often used for their benefit. Think of the poor Windrush people, people invited to the UK to work in selected jobs, live and have children and pay their way: whilst their children etc, potentially denied cancer treatments or deported forcefully to a country that they didn't know and told to put on a 'Jamaican accent' etc to fit in. Theresa May was Home Secretary when laws were changed, resulting in thousands of people being threatened with being thrown out, similar to illegal immigrants. She was a disaster as Home Secretary, also setting up the hate and fear campaigns against immigrants and has followed a similar vein of incompetence as Prime Minister.
Not much choice for some nationals in many commonwealth countries but to be jailed, perhaps up to 25 years, if they have gay sex. Many LGBT people in the commonwealth get murdered - the UK doesn't care that much about the people, though they may spout false empathy at times.
They're driven to try to claim anything as positive, at the time that the brexit management has been catastrophic. Smoke and mirrors also going on too.
The law was actually changed in 2006.
Complex issues, not a single point - made worse by Theresa May when she was in charge of the Home Office, and now PM. Eg. the landing cards from the people arriving - the Windrush generation and afterwards - were destroyed, seemingly by the Home Office who stated they decided to destroy them in 2010. Amber Rudd and Theresa May probably should not keep their jobs, if their management of the whole situation, which has been devastating for thousands of Brits, is just half as bad as it's getting clearer to have been.
The whole Brexit affair, the desperate attempts to assume that the Commonwealth will be the answer to all ills, when the official forecasts show that the UK will spend £billions each year, whichever of the 4 brexit options are pursued, with or without greater Commonwealth trade deals.
Take it you didn't see PMQs today then?"
I saw some of it and know the reason why you ask the question. Theresa May said at PMQ's today the decision to destroy the Windrush generations records was taken in 2009, during the Blair/Brown Labour government years. |
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By *abioMan
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I saw some of it and know the reason why you ask the question. Theresa May said at PMQ's today the decision to destroy the Windrush generations records was taken in 2009, during the Blair/Brown Labour government years. "
that doesn't absolve TM of the fact that she was the home secretary at the time of the 2014 immigration act, which took out the provision in the 1971 immigration act that "all commonwealth citizen residing in the country before then would be given indefinate leave to remain".....
and it's THAT that has now cause this issue... because these people have never taken up british passports, people need to make sure of status before they can get jobs or be given healthcare...... |
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and almost immediately it turns out there were two decisions ... one of them taken by Mrs Maygabe personally while she was home secretary, which makes her a proven liar now then. her attempt to shift the blame has monumentaly backfired  |
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It's just shameful.I find it interesting that Its the biggest story on the news and in this forum the brexiters are silent.
Often silence tells you more about people than they wish to give away..  |
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"It's just shameful.I find it interesting that Its the biggest story on the news and in this forum the brexiters are silent.
Often silence tells you more about people than they wish to give away.. "
Why is it just Brexiters who are guilty for 'staying silent'?
Are Remainers who 'stay silent' guilty too? Or are they absolved from blame because they happened to have checked the 'right' box on the ballot paper?
What about those who abstained, spoilt their ballot paper or couldn't vote? |
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"It's just shameful.I find it interesting that Its the biggest story on the news and in this forum the brexiters are silent.
Often silence tells you more about people than they wish to give away.. "
Didn't all this happen way before brexit was even thought about!? Never mind some people are always looking for someone/something to blame whether they are responsible or not especially if it fits their agenda!  |
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it's now been revealed that new id checks at polling stations are a diliberate attempt to disenfranchise the commonwealth immigrant community from voting .... Mrs Maygabe and her sick policies strike again |
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"it's now been revealed that new id checks at polling stations are a diliberate attempt to disenfranchise the commonwealth immigrant community from voting .... Mrs Maygabe and her sick policies strike again "
I thought it was to prevent voter fraud! |
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By *ercuryMan
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"it's now been revealed that new id checks at polling stations are a diliberate attempt to disenfranchise the commonwealth immigrant community from voting .... Mrs Maygabe and her sick policies strike again
I thought it was to prevent voter fraud! "
As recommended by the INDEPENDENT Electoral Commission back in 2014.
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"it's now been revealed that new id checks at polling stations are a diliberate attempt to disenfranchise the commonwealth immigrant community from voting .... Mrs Maygabe and her sick policies strike again
I thought it was to prevent voter fraud!
As recommended by the INDEPENDENT Electoral Commission back in 2014.
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as announced by the home secretary in 2012 |
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