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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? " Offer tactical support in the form of Tanker aircraft and Surveillance aircraft. | |||
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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? Offer tactical support in the form of Tanker aircraft and Surveillance aircraft." Actually there is very little we can do. We are so depleted - aircraft carrier that has no aircraft - army that relies on part time soldiers. It's dad's army all over again. Unfortunately we and probably the rest of the world will get involved! After all it only took a "Royal" to be assassinated in Sarajevo to start the 1st world war! We never learn from past events. | |||
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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? Offer tactical support in the form of Tanker aircraft and Surveillance aircraft." To achieve what? What is the strategy, what is the outcome that will be served by what you describe? | |||
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"Stand by and watch the slaughter is what we will do and have done.Kick some ass is what we should do.Helping the kurds might prevent history remembering us as utter cunts. ". So instead of watching slaughter you think we should take part in the slaughter. It's logic I suppose  | |||
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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? Offer tactical support in the form of Tanker aircraft and Surveillance aircraft. To achieve what? What is the strategy, what is the outcome that will be served by what you describe? " The problem in Syria was exacerbated when Obama failed to act on his "red line" on the use of chemical weapons. This is now going to force Trump's hand, as he will now have to act. We don't need to do any bombing, as the USA and France seem prepared to do that. We can offer our services in other ways as I described. | |||
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" Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. " 'Allegedly' a chemical attack and if it was it was definitely a 'false flag'. Assad is certainly not using chemical weapons in Ghouta. In this extraordinary war, where Saudi-funded jihadist head choppers have Israeli air support and US and UK military “advisers”, every time the Syrian army is about to take complete control of a major jihadist enclave, at the last moment when victory is in their grasp, the Syrian Army allegedly attacks children with chemical weapons, for no military reason at all. We have been fed this narrative again and again and again. We then face a propaganda onslaught from neo-con politicians, think tanks and “charities” urging a great rain of Western bombs and missiles, and are accused of callousness towards suffering children if we demur. This despite the certain knowledge that Western military interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have had consequences which remain to this day utterly disastrous. The massive orchestration of Russophobia over the last two years is intended to prepare public opinion for a wider military conflict centred on the Middle East, but likely to spread, and that we are approaching that endgame. The dislocation of the political and media class from the general population is such, that the levers for people of goodwill to prevent this are, as with Iraq, extremely few as politicians quake in the face of media jingoism. These feel like extremely dangerous times. | |||
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"To achieve what, Mercury? There must be a strategy, surely. A week after the US is ready to pull out, now you want us all to head back in. Why? What is the goal? " The world cannot condone the use of chemical weapons on children. If we don't act, where will that barbaric and outlawed practice stop? Assad must be brought to the negotiating table, and strong arm tactics might realise that. | |||
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" Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. 'Allegedly' a chemical attack and if it was it was definitely a 'false flag'. Assad is certainly not using chemical weapons in Ghouta. In this extraordinary war, where Saudi-funded jihadist head choppers have Israeli air support and US and UK military “advisers”, every time the Syrian army is about to take complete control of a major jihadist enclave, at the last moment when victory is in their grasp, the Syrian Army allegedly attacks children with chemical weapons, for no military reason at all. We have been fed this narrative again and again and again. We then face a propaganda onslaught from neo-con politicians, think tanks and “charities” urging a great rain of Western bombs and missiles, and are accused of callousness towards suffering children if we demur. This despite the certain knowledge that Western military interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have had consequences which remain to this day utterly disastrous. The massive orchestration of Russophobia over the last two years is intended to prepare public opinion for a wider military conflict centred on the Middle East, but likely to spread, and that we are approaching that endgame. The dislocation of the political and media class from the general population is such, that the levers for people of goodwill to prevent this are, as with Iraq, extremely few as politicians quake in the face of media jingoism. These feel like extremely dangerous times." .  .
Open air slave markets in Libya is the new western standard for "freed" middle Eastern democracies didn't you know?.
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"I'm sure of one thing, Assad would be elected in Syria regardless, he'd win even in free and fair elections. He's an awful person but boy he's better than the fucking lunatics waiting in the wings." There has never been a free and fair election in Syria under the Assad regimes.Its a brutal dictatorship run by a minority and your assertion that he would win an election is false and baseless and quite absurd. | |||
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" Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. 'Allegedly' a chemical attack and if it was it was definitely a 'false flag'. Assad is certainly not using chemical weapons in Ghouta. In this extraordinary war, where Saudi-funded jihadist head choppers have Israeli air support and US and UK military “advisers”, every time the Syrian army is about to take complete control of a major jihadist enclave, at the last moment when victory is in their grasp, the Syrian Army allegedly attacks children with chemical weapons, for no military reason at all. We have been fed this narrative again and again and again. We then face a propaganda onslaught from neo-con politicians, think tanks and “charities” urging a great rain of Western bombs and missiles, and are accused of callousness towards suffering children if we demur. This despite the certain knowledge that Western military interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have had consequences which remain to this day utterly disastrous. The massive orchestration of Russophobia over the last two years is intended to prepare public opinion for a wider military conflict centred on the Middle East, but likely to spread, and that we are approaching that endgame. The dislocation of the political and media class from the general population is such, that the levers for people of goodwill to prevent this are, as with Iraq, extremely few as politicians quake in the face of media jingoism. These feel like extremely dangerous times.. .
Open air slave markets in Libya is the new western standard for "freed" middle Eastern democracies didn't you know?.
"chemical weapons dropped on schools is that the middle East you would prefer under Assad or whichever dictatorship is acceptable. | |||
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" Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. 'Allegedly' a chemical attack and if it was it was definitely a 'false flag'. Assad is certainly not using chemical weapons in Ghouta. In this extraordinary war, where Saudi-funded jihadist head choppers have Israeli air support and US and UK military “advisers”, every time the Syrian army is about to take complete control of a major jihadist enclave, at the last moment when victory is in their grasp, the Syrian Army allegedly attacks children with chemical weapons, for no military reason at all. We have been fed this narrative again and again and again. We then face a propaganda onslaught from neo-con politicians, think tanks and “charities” urging a great rain of Western bombs and missiles, and are accused of callousness towards suffering children if we demur. This despite the certain knowledge that Western military interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have had consequences which remain to this day utterly disastrous. The massive orchestration of Russophobia over the last two years is intended to prepare public opinion for a wider military conflict centred on the Middle East, but likely to spread, and that we are approaching that endgame. The dislocation of the political and media class from the general population is such, that the levers for people of goodwill to prevent this are, as with Iraq, extremely few as politicians quake in the face of media jingoism. These feel like extremely dangerous times.. .
Open air slave markets in Libya is the new western standard for "freed" middle Eastern democracies didn't you know?.
chemical weapons dropped on schools is that the middle East you would prefer under Assad or whichever dictatorship is acceptable. ". No. I denounce the use of chemical weapons by anyone,I just don't think bombing more people is going to stop them being used by whoever used them | |||
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"I'm sure of one thing, Assad would be elected in Syria regardless, he'd win even in free and fair elections. He's an awful person but boy he's better than the fucking lunatics waiting in the wings. There has never been a free and fair election in Syria under the Assad regimes.Its a brutal dictatorship run by a minority and your assertion that he would win an election is false and baseless and quite absurd. ". No, I read many many stories from Syrian journalists, they all say he's awful but he's better than what's out in the wings!. I never said there was, that's why I said EVEN if there were. He was ratified by referendum by like 97% of the population but that is not what we call free and fair elections, however it is an indication that he's not actually as despised as you claim. | |||
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"I'm sure of one thing, Assad would be elected in Syria regardless, he'd win even in free and fair elections. He's an awful person but boy he's better than the fucking lunatics waiting in the wings. There has never been a free and fair election in Syria under the Assad regimes.Its a brutal dictatorship run by a minority and your assertion that he would win an election is false and baseless and quite absurd. .
No, I read many many stories from Syrian journalists, they all say he's awful but he's better than what's out in the wings!.
I never said there was, that's why I said EVEN if there were.
He was ratified by referendum by like 97% of the population but that is not what we call free and fair elections, however it is an indication that he's not actually as despised as you claim."Dictatorships always get 97% or more.His sect the alawhites have always felt persecuted they are a small clan surrounded by enemies they would slaughter the rest of the country in favour of their clan.Tribslism is Something you seem to despise in Africa but accept in Syria.  | |||
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"I'm sure of one thing, Assad would be elected in Syria regardless, he'd win even in free and fair elections. He's an awful person but boy he's better than the fucking lunatics waiting in the wings. There has never been a free and fair election in Syria under the Assad regimes.Its a brutal dictatorship run by a minority and your assertion that he would win an election is false and baseless and quite absurd. .
No, I read many many stories from Syrian journalists, they all say he's awful but he's better than what's out in the wings!.
I never said there was, that's why I said EVEN if there were.
He was ratified by referendum by like 97% of the population but that is not what we call free and fair elections, however it is an indication that he's not actually as despised as you claim.
Dictatorships always get 97% or more.His sect the alawhites have always felt persecuted they are a small clan surrounded by enemies they would slaughter the rest of the country in favour of their clan.Tribslism is Something you seem to despise in Africa but accept in Syria. ". No what I realise is tribalism gets you the exact problems we see in both places despite the election differences. So my preference for Assad is of the workable options, you said it yourself, removing Assad just means instead of persecuting one sect we persecute the other, my option is for the least amount of persecution and in this case that means Assad. You call it dictatorship they call themselves socialists or at least Arab socialists, the alternative is Arab conservatives.... | |||
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"Israel gets what Israel wants. But they are up against Russia this time." . And Israel wants the Golan heights because they've found alot of hydrocarbons. | |||
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"I'm sure of one thing, Assad would be elected in Syria regardless, he'd win even in free and fair elections. He's an awful person but boy he's better than the fucking lunatics waiting in the wings. There has never been a free and fair election in Syria under the Assad regimes.Its a brutal dictatorship run by a minority and your assertion that he would win an election is false and baseless and quite absurd. .
No, I read many many stories from Syrian journalists, they all say he's awful but he's better than what's out in the wings!.
I never said there was, that's why I said EVEN if there were.
He was ratified by referendum by like 97% of the population but that is not what we call free and fair elections, however it is an indication that he's not actually as despised as you claim.
Dictatorships always get 97% or more.His sect the alawhites have always felt persecuted they are a small clan surrounded by enemies they would slaughter the rest of the country in favour of their clan.Tribslism is Something you seem to despise in Africa but accept in Syria. "Seeing as you mention Africa there are war crimes happening right now in the war between Saudi Arabia and Yemen, (the bombing of Yemen by the Saudi's) yet most people in the west seem willing to turn a blind eye to that and it doesn't get anywhere near the media attention Syria gets. | |||
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"Israel gets what Israel wants. But they are up against Russia this time.. And Israel wants the Golan heights because they've found alot of hydrocarbons." I Israel will not and should not give up the Golan heights .They are of strategic significance regardless of the oil.Theyve had of them since the 80s.Theyll be incorporated into Israel one day. | |||
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"I'm sure of one thing, Assad would be elected in Syria regardless, he'd win even in free and fair elections. He's an awful person but boy he's better than the fucking lunatics waiting in the wings. There has never been a free and fair election in Syria under the Assad regimes.Its a brutal dictatorship run by a minority and your assertion that he would win an election is false and baseless and quite absurd. .
No, I read many many stories from Syrian journalists, they all say he's awful but he's better than what's out in the wings!.
I never said there was, that's why I said EVEN if there were.
He was ratified by referendum by like 97% of the population but that is not what we call free and fair elections, however it is an indication that he's not actually as despised as you claim.
Dictatorships always get 97% or more.His sect the alawhites have always felt persecuted they are a small clan surrounded by enemies they would slaughter the rest of the country in favour of their clan.Tribslism is Something you seem to despise in Africa but accept in Syria.
Seeing as you mention Africa there are war crimes happening right now in the war between Saudi Arabia and Yemen, (the bombing of Yemen by the Saudi's) yet most people in the west seem willing to turn a blind eye to that and it doesn't get anywhere near the media attention Syria gets. "Israel has used white phosphorus on the Palestinians in the past and continues to violate the human rights of Palestinians yet I see no call for bombing or intervention in that corner of the middle east,on the other hand it appears no country in that region has gained from outside intervention or regime change anyway. The Saudis are causing massive famines in the yemen by blocking aid and also targeting civilians but as mentioned you wont see that on the news or anyone calling for airstrikes against Saudi Arabia | |||
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"Stand by and watch the slaughter is what we will do and have done.Kick some ass is what we should do.Helping the kurds might prevent history remembering us as utter cunts. .
So instead of watching slaughter you think we should take part in the slaughter.
It's logic I suppose "My thoughts exactly. In Iraq and Afghanistan, countless thousands of civilians have been killed by allied bombs. The USA are pissed off that they've lost an opportunity to control Syria, and so looking for an excuse to get in there. The allies don't need evidence of chemical weapons, just the idea they've been used and not actual evidence is fine by them for that reason. If actual evidence is found, then thsts another ball game, If we, the allies get involved then we'll be killing syrian civilians too. | |||
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"I'm sure of one thing, Assad would be elected in Syria regardless, he'd win even in free and fair elections. He's an awful person but boy he's better than the fucking lunatics waiting in the wings. There has never been a free and fair election in Syria under the Assad regimes.Its a brutal dictatorship run by a minority and your assertion that he would win an election is false and baseless and quite absurd. .
No, I read many many stories from Syrian journalists, they all say he's awful but he's better than what's out in the wings!.
I never said there was, that's why I said EVEN if there were.
He was ratified by referendum by like 97% of the population but that is not what we call free and fair elections, however it is an indication that he's not actually as despised as you claim.
Dictatorships always get 97% or more.His sect the alawhites have always felt persecuted they are a small clan surrounded by enemies they would slaughter the rest of the country in favour of their clan.Tribslism is Something you seem to despise in Africa but accept in Syria.
Seeing as you mention Africa there are war crimes happening right now in the war between Saudi Arabia and Yemen, (the bombing of Yemen by the Saudi's) yet most people in the west seem willing to turn a blind eye to that and it doesn't get anywhere near the media attention Syria gets.
Israel has used white phosphorus on the Palestinians in the past and continues to violate the human rights of Palestinians yet I see no call for bombing or intervention in that corner of the middle east,on the other hand it appears no country in that region has gained from outside intervention or regime change anyway. The Saudis are causing massive famines in the yemen by blocking aid and also targeting civilians but as mentioned you wont see that on the news or anyone calling for airstrikes against Saudi Arabia "This exactly! The hypocrisy is staggering | |||
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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? " get out , stay out and keep mouths very very shut x | |||
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"Dear lord..Do people actually doubt Syria has WMDs now.? Who's dropping them on kids then ? Us or the yanks.Fucking conspiracy tinfoilery has taken over the net.. "Your just repeating the usual rhetoric. Can you think for yourself? Whats your thoughts on saudis causing famine in yemen, dropping british made cluster bombs on civilians, and isreal using white phosphorus on Palestinians? | |||
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" Who's dropping them on kids then ? Us or the yanks." Not in Syria, because the usa are busy killing Afghanistan civilians instead | |||
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"Israel gets what Israel wants. But they are up against Russia this time.. And Israel wants the Golan heights because they've found alot of hydrocarbons. I Israel will not and should not give up the Golan heights .They are of strategic significance regardless of the oil.Theyve had of them since the 80s.Theyll be incorporated into Israel one day. " . Wow that long! Fair enough then | |||
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"Israel gets what Israel wants. But they are up against Russia this time.. And Israel wants the Golan heights because they've found alot of hydrocarbons. I Israel will not and should not give up the Golan heights .They are of strategic significance regardless of the oil.Theyve had of them since the 80s.Theyll be incorporated into Israel one day. . Wow that long! Fair enough then ". Of course there's only one problem, the oil is on the other side of the heights which was controlled by Syria until 8 years ago when Israel quietly took over while the Syrians were busy fighting insurgent terrorists who were trained and supplied by Israel and the USA | |||
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"Bet you can't guess whos oil company have been trying to get in and frack the place to shit "Rupert Murdoch ? | |||
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"Bet you can't guess whos oil company have been trying to get in and frack the place to shit
Rupert Murdoch ? ". Bingo. Who else? Come on put your tin foil crackpot conspiracy hat on | |||
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"The grand royal wizard of the illuminati.? "That's the fella aka dick Cheney | |||
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"There's another name on the board.... Think banking family "Rothschild or when it comes to control of oil the Rockerfeller family usually comes up. George Soros is also up to his neck in it with these families too. | |||
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"Israel gets what Israel wants. But they are up against Russia this time.. And Israel wants the Golan heights because they've found alot of hydrocarbons. I Israel will not and should not give up the Golan heights .They are of strategic significance regardless of the oil.Theyve had of them since the 80s.Theyll be incorporated into Israel one day. . Wow that long! Fair enough then "I thought the golan heights were recognized internationally as being syrian under Israeli occupation? | |||
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"Jewish banking cabal.? "When Peter Mandelson became EU trade commissioner in 2004, a year later in 2005 he flew by private jet to Siberia for a secretive dinner with Russian metals magnate Oleg Deripaska. Then later the EU slashed trade tariffs on imported aluminium. Guess who provided the private jet for Medelson's flight to Siberia? Yes it was one of the Rothschilds. The whole episode became public knowledge 6 years ago in a libel case at which the Rothschilds said Mandelsons trip to Siberia on their jet was purely for 'leisure' purposes (if you believe that then you'll believe anything). Then when Mandelson was on Deripaska's private yacht in Corfu in 2008, along with none other than George Osborne, it was the Rothschilds who blabbed about it, allegedly in pursuit of a £50,000 Tory donation. If you think the Rothschilds are not deeply involved behind the scenes in politics in this country and the wider world then you must be extremely naive. | |||
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"Jewish banking cabal.?
When Peter Mandelson became EU trade commissioner in 2004, a year later in 2005 he flew by private jet to Siberia for a secretive dinner with Russian metals magnate Oleg Deripaska. Then later the EU slashed trade tariffs on imported aluminium. Guess who provided the private jet for Medelson's flight to Siberia? Yes it was one of the Rothschilds. The whole episode became public knowledge 6 years ago in a libel case at which the Rothschilds said Mandelsons trip to Siberia on their jet was purely for 'leisure' purposes (if you believe that then you'll believe anything).
Then when Mandelson was on Deripaska's private yacht in Corfu in 2008, along with none other than George Osborne, it was the Rothschilds who blabbed about it, allegedly in pursuit of a £50,000 Tory donation. If you think the Rothschilds are not deeply involved behind the scenes in politics in this country and the wider world then you must be extremely naive. "The world truly is fucked if people in ivory towers control governments like pawns, what ever damage is caused is of little consequence to them and theirs. Apparently those Rothschilds own 80% of the worlds wealth and have been immersed in world politics for centuries | |||
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"So we have a Jewish oil company with influential people on the board drilling for oil on land captured by the IDF over 50 years ago.How is this a conspiracy. ". Because it wasn't captured 50 years ago or certainly not the bits with all the oil that bit was only captured 6 years ago, in fact they only captured it while the Syrians were busy fighting terrorists who have been armed and trained by the CIA and Israel And the bit of the Golan heights they did capture 40 years ago has a UN mandate for it to be returned to Syria with the proviso it has the ability to maintain a safe border!. | |||
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"So we have a Jewish oil company with influential people on the board drilling for oil on land captured by the IDF over 50 years ago.How is this a conspiracy. .
Because it wasn't captured 50 years ago or certainly not the bits with all the oil that bit was only captured 6 years ago, in fact they only captured it while the Syrians were busy fighting terrorists who have been armed and trained by the CIA and Israel
And the bit of the Golan heights they did capture 40 years ago has a UN mandate for it to be returned to Syria with the proviso it has the ability to maintain a safe border!."So Israel is to blame for the civil war in Syria .? Those banking families get everywhere and Im guessing the jews knew the oil was under the Golan heights before the civil war?. | |||
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"So we have a Jewish oil company with influential people on the board drilling for oil on land captured by the IDF over 50 years ago.How is this a conspiracy. .
Because it wasn't captured 50 years ago or certainly not the bits with all the oil that bit was only captured 6 years ago, in fact they only captured it while the Syrians were busy fighting terrorists who have been armed and trained by the CIA and Israel
And the bit of the Golan heights they did capture 40 years ago has a UN mandate for it to be returned to Syria with the proviso it has the ability to maintain a safe border!.
So Israel is to blame for the civil war in Syria .?
Those banking families get everywhere and Im guessing the jews knew the oil was under the Golan heights before the civil war?.". Are those three Jewish?. I thought they were all gentiles | |||
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AHH good old qatari gas, no terrorism links there at least .
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No no no I'm just being paranoid, the West has ZERO interest in removing Assad except to save the children | |||
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"So we have a Jewish oil company with influential people on the board drilling for oil on land captured by the IDF over 50 years ago.How is this a conspiracy. .
Because it wasn't captured 50 years ago or certainly not the bits with all the oil that bit was only captured 6 years ago, in fact they only captured it while the Syrians were busy fighting terrorists who have been armed and trained by the CIA and Israel
And the bit of the Golan heights they did capture 40 years ago has a UN mandate for it to be returned to Syria with the proviso it has the ability to maintain a safe border!.
So Israel is to blame for the civil war in Syria .?
Those banking families get everywhere and Im guessing the jews knew the oil was under the Golan heights before the civil war?..
Are those three Jewish?.
I thought they were all gentiles "So was it the jews and their friends that did it or not dave.? | |||
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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? " Leave it all to the French. | |||
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"So we have a Jewish oil company with influential people on the board drilling for oil on land captured by the IDF over 50 years ago.How is this a conspiracy. .
Because it wasn't captured 50 years ago or certainly not the bits with all the oil that bit was only captured 6 years ago, in fact they only captured it while the Syrians were busy fighting terrorists who have been armed and trained by the CIA and Israel
And the bit of the Golan heights they did capture 40 years ago has a UN mandate for it to be returned to Syria with the proviso it has the ability to maintain a safe border!.
So Israel is to blame for the civil war in Syria .?
Those banking families get everywhere and Im guessing the jews knew the oil was under the Golan heights before the civil war?..
Are those three Jewish?.
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"Is there any definitive proof Assad used poison gas on his people? People need to start seriously challenging this shit instead of taking the media and government crap All the stuff you are hearing is allegations but why should we trust what were told by the same people who lied us into Afghanistan Iraq, Libya and all but for the want of trying Syria itself? the UK have been helping funding and training terror groups But hey lets not question it hey just bend over and let the elite lie to you Its Iraq all over again and people wont learn a damn thing you all say your against illegal wars and innocent then stop being mugs and believe shit without evidence"
I doubt the usa and allies are genuinely concerned. They just want control of Syria. the atrocities commited by isreal on the Palestinians and what the Saudis are doing to the civilians in Yemen go unreported and no one brought to account there.
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"I think we've had a Vulcan mind melt today bobsters. I think it's the nasty white guys and I wanna save brown people... "Yes Dave .I hope your feeling good.I will file ,the curious case of the Golan heights oil conspiracy under "unresolved Zionism" | |||
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"Is it better for Assad to stabilise Syria, albeit with a greater foothold by Russia and Iran in Syria? Or is this all about stopping that tripartite alliance taking control by pouring more fuel on the fire? If so, who are we are we fighting and why?" We have to leave it as a Russian area of influence,we have our areas of influence and they have theres the alternative could well be world war three it is worrying | |||
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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? " Walk away, she should just fucking walk away and keep walking. | |||
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"To achieve what, Mercury? There must be a strategy, surely. A week after the US is ready to pull out, now you want us all to head back in. Why? What is the goal? The world cannot condone the use of chemical weapons on children. If we don't act, where will that barbaric and outlawed practice stop? Assad must be brought to the negotiating table, and strong arm tactics might realise that. " acting by bombing these very same children ? And the let those who manage to flee the madness drown in the mediterranean sea as we do now ? | |||
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"Is there any definitive proof Assad used poison gas on his people? People need to start seriously challenging this shit instead of taking the media and government crap All the stuff you are hearing is allegations but why should we trust what were told by the same people who lied us into Afghanistan Iraq, Libya and all but for the want of trying Syria itself? the UK have been helping funding and training terror groups But hey lets not question it hey just bend over and let the elite lie to you Its Iraq all over again and people wont learn a damn thing you all say your against illegal wars and innocent then stop being mugs and believe shit without evidence" fully agree on this | |||
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"I heard earlier some discussion of bombing alleged chemical stockpiles ! Which will probably help to achieve more civilian deaths I assume. The UK and others should only support UN action. " Yep fully agree, and with Russia & China there to veto everything then we'd thankfully get involved with nothing. | |||
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"To achieve what, Mercury? There must be a strategy, surely. A week after the US is ready to pull out, now you want us all to head back in. Why? What is the goal? The world cannot condone the use of chemical weapons on children. If we don't act, where will that barbaric and outlawed practice stop? Assad must be brought to the negotiating table, and strong arm tactics might realise that. acting by bombing these very same children ? And the let those who manage to flee the madness drown in the mediterranean sea as we do now ? "No, you bomb his military capability and capacity. | |||
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"What a time to have Trump and May as world leaders... Mind you, since this is almost exclusively a male conversation, perhaps putting/having a female in charge during a time of warring danger might actually be helpful in that women are usually not going to jump in. Thatcher doesn't count. But she has to be strong enough to keep the warmongers at bay and I think May might have a problem with that. " Geopolitically we're caught between a rock and a hard place. We seem to want to be the middle man between EU and American trade, so we need to be friendly with the US. On the otherhand Russia supplies a whole lotta gas to us, so the UK leadership want to avoid distruption there. | |||
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"Nothing good is going to come out of the UK getting involved and I agree she would walk away. " I agree, we should stay away from it. | |||
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"What a time to have Trump and May as world leaders... Mind you, since this is almost exclusively a male conversation, perhaps putting/having a female in charge during a time of warring danger might actually be helpful in that women are usually not going to jump in. Thatcher doesn't count. But she has to be strong enough to keep the warmongers at bay and I think May might have a problem with that. " Whatever her individual strengths, Theresa May is weak politically - she is a minority leader in her own country, so needs to tread warily to avoid being usurped at home. | |||
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"Nothing good is going to come out of the UK getting involved and I agree she would walk away. I agree, we should stay away from it. " Like what we did in the 1930's? We kept away for as long as possible but were forced in by Hitler's actions. Putin will do the same. | |||
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"Time for UK conscription "You mean all four home nations? Not sure if Kinky will approve of that! | |||
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"Which brings us around again to the conundrum- how to retain power at home at all costs in the face of difficult or controversial decisions. Democracy, eh? Don't have any faith at all that this is going to end at all well unless someone rises very, very soon from the international ranks, who can command the respect of all sides and bring some reason and rules to this madness and mayhem. " I'm looking to the EU for leadership. | |||
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"I'm sure the Putin fanboys here will of approved of the Russian veto into an inquiry in the chemical weapon attack in syria. Russians showing the world what they stand for and who they protect.Much like the Putin Fan club in the forum.. "On the subject of fanboys, some on here claim Trump is a Putin fanboy. If that is the case why has he promised a "forceful" response to the alleged chemical attack in Syria? | |||
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" On the subject of fanboys, some on here claim Trump is a Putin fanboy. If that is the case why has he promised a "forceful" response to the alleged chemical attack in Syria?" because after the first chemical attack that the us responded to, I don't think he had much option to...... in all of trumps criticism of russian and their antics around the globe, he never mentions putin by name.... he has only done it twice in the year he has been pres, and basically sat on the russian sanctions for election medling for a year after it was passed by both house and senate nikki haley in the UN is far stronger on her language about russia than trump has ever been | |||
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"I On the subject of fanboys, some on here claim Trump is a Putin fanboy. If that is the case why has he promised a "forceful" response to the alleged chemical attack in Syria?" Maybe give them a good roasting on Twitter? | |||
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" On the subject of fanboys, some on here claim Trump is a Putin fanboy. If that is the case why has he promised a "forceful" response to the alleged chemical attack in Syria? because after the first chemical attack that the us responded to, I don't think he had much option to...... in all of trumps criticism of russian and their antics around the globe, he never mentions putin by name.... he has only done it twice in the year he has been pres, and basically sat on the russian sanctions for election medling for a year after it was passed by both house and senate nikki haley in the UN is far stronger on her language about russia than trump has ever been" Another sacking coming up? | |||
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" On the subject of fanboys, some on here claim Trump is a Putin fanboy. If that is the case why has he promised a "forceful" response to the alleged chemical attack in Syria? because after the first chemical attack that the us responded to, I don't think he had much option to...... in all of trumps criticism of russian and their antics around the globe, he never mentions putin by name.... he has only done it twice in the year he has been pres, and basically sat on the russian sanctions for election medling for a year after it was passed by both house and senate nikki haley in the UN is far stronger on her language about russia than trump has ever been Another sacking coming up?" no, haley is fine... i thought she may have gotten tillerson's job if he hadn't had moved pompeo.... I think think next one to go will be sessions..... although it should be scott pruitt at the EPA, he is a walking investigation magnet at the moment but trump likes him | |||
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"i think the russian veto is the thing the us and their allies wanted to show the world before they take their action.... if they don't.... we will i wonder if they are going to try and take out as much of the syrian air force as possible........ or the other option would be to bomb all the runways instead of the hangars...." . What's the point?. They fire off a 100 million dollars of cruise missiles and blow up some runways that the Russians and the Syrians will rebuild in a few weeks!. I mean sure the USA hasn't got folks in Michigan without water to drink or anything pushing like 300,000 people living in tents in California. | |||
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"Read an interesting and little reported story I've the weekend about the Salisbury attack. The UK RAF listening station in Cyprus pick up a transmission from inside Syria saying... Package successfully delivered...to UK Have managed to exfoliate UK successfully. . This was then linked by a smart RAF intelligence officer to a previous conversation recorded from Syria the day before. MI6 head sent congrats to RAF staff... So this apparently formed much of the secret intelligence shared with allies. Conclusion ...Syrian surrogate carried out attack for Russia or Russian team went to Syria. Either way...Syria appears culpable in more than an alleged chemical attack on its own people. Think no choice but to respond very forcefully." you can add to that the 6 independent UN reports so far during this conflict of alledged chemical weapons usage.... of which 5 have blamed the syrian govenrment for use of Chlorine...... and 1 has blamed the syrian government for the use of Sarin.... it was the Sarin incident that led to the us bombing last time..... and since the last incident the russians have vetoed every attempt of an un independent mission.... | |||
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"just for everyone information about the vote yesterday in the un about an independent enquiry... 12 voted for..... 2 voted against (russia and bolivia) 1 abstained.... (china) china were willing to abstain and let the enquiry happen.... russia apparently not......." WHO reporting sympoms more similar. .to sarin. .. Either way I'm sure some sneaky cia or mi6 folks have already got blood samples out..so clock is ticking I'm afraid...especially as today or tmmrw is when the OPCW is expected to report on salisbury results | |||
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"Yes because every good analyst will tell you the first thing you need to do after you've defeated the enemy and they've agreed to leave under a cease fire is to bomb children with poison gas... There just far too risky to be left alive ."Actually the surrender only came after the attack....  | |||
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"Yes because every good analyst will tell you the first thing you need to do after you've defeated the enemy and they've agreed to leave under a cease fire is to bomb children with poison gas... There just far too risky to be left alive .
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"Yes because every good analyst will tell you the first thing you need to do after you've defeated the enemy and they've agreed to leave under a cease fire is to bomb children with poison gas... There just far too risky to be left alive .
Actually the surrender only came after the attack.... .
No it didn't, the cease fire came after the attack the agreement was already in place."Neither side were adhering to cease fire...Syria had encircled the area...blocked all UN humanitarian access and all external access including reporters etc. My understanding was that the ceasefire had been totally broken by both parties. ..Syrians thought...we will resolve this once and for all.... LOL Or maybe the rebels decided to drop a chlorine or sarin bomb from one of their mini UAVS. ..just for shits and grins. ..or maybe it was the USA or the UK.....obviously to ditract from Brexit issues or the Trump investigation..... I see your logic...it's so bloody obvious. .obviously it's a western conspiracy and provocation against the poor Syrians and Russians. . | |||
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"Yes because every good analyst will tell you the first thing you need to do after you've defeated the enemy and they've agreed to leave under a cease fire is to bomb children with poison gas... There just far too risky to be left alive .
Actually the surrender only came after the attack.... .
No it didn't, the cease fire came after the attack the agreement was already in place.
Neither side were adhering to cease fire...Syria had encircled the area...blocked all UN humanitarian access and all external access including reporters etc. My understanding was that the ceasefire had been totally broken by both parties. ..Syrians thought...we will resolve this once and for all....
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Or maybe the rebels decided to drop a chlorine or sarin bomb from one of their mini UAVS. ..just for shits and grins. ..or maybe it was the USA or the UK.....obviously to ditract from Brexit issues or the Trump investigation.....
I see your logic...it's so bloody obvious. .obviously it's a western conspiracy and provocation against the poor Syrians and Russians. . ". I dunno, frankly I've stopped caring, there's a pissed up maniac tweeting threats on one side and a cold blooded ruthless fucker on the other.... That's life in politics I guess | |||
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"Trump has just tweeted this. "Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!"" . Let's see if Putin follows through with his promises of going after the "launch pad" of any missiles fired!. Should bring this argument to an end either way | |||
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"Trump has just tweeted this. "Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!"" Yup with no evidence Assad gassed his own people and Trump wants to bomb Syria Real Syrian Civil Defence wear Red Helmets not White The White Helmets are fake | |||
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"why are people so adament Assad is to blame? there is NO proof he gassed his own people its other facts that are responsible and even the UN has said that. does Syria have oil? The elite have oil in their sights and they want it Wake the hell up and learn from Iraq no WMD were ever found! And many innocent people were killed the elite pricks do not care about you they see money in all of this they will be tucked up nice and safe out the way and collect their blood money fucking discusting!!! " Alternate theories include? Martians...they did it themselves...we did it or it was Bart Simpson | |||
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"why are people so adament Assad is to blame? there is NO proof he gassed his own people its other facts that are responsible and even the UN has said that. does Syria have oil? The elite have oil in their sights and they want it Wake the hell up and learn from Iraq no WMD were ever found! And many innocent people were killed the elite pricks do not care about you they see money in all of this they will be tucked up nice and safe out the way and collect their blood money fucking discusting!!! Alternate theories include? Martians...they did it themselves...we did it or it was Bart Simpson "Yeah i see you havent learned a thing from the Iraq war So is it just go bombing alot of innocent people without any evidence ? I hope those that are happy with that are happy to have blood on their hands to make the elite rich | |||
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"just so you are aware.... here is a link to the vote yesterday... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qrII-xDYy0 sorry in advance that the youtube link is to the daily mail, but they offer no opinions, just the footage of the vote" Russia vetoed because they want a true independent enquiry not one of these white helmet false evidence enquirys. | |||
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"just so you are aware.... here is a link to the vote yesterday... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qrII-xDYy0 sorry in advance that the youtube link is to the daily mail, but they offer no opinions, just the footage of the vote Russia vetoed because they want a true independent enquiry not one of these white helmet false evidence enquirys. "
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"just so you are aware.... here is a link to the vote yesterday... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qrII-xDYy0 sorry in advance that the youtube link is to the daily mail, but they offer no opinions, just the footage of the vote Russia vetoed because they want a true independent enquiry not one of these white helmet false evidence enquirys. " so what is your excuse for the 6 other UN independent reports then??? | |||
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"Its a good day to call in sick if you work for Syrian air defence. "The usa coalition have plenty experience of killing civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, so letz hope not too many Syrian cilians are killed then eh?! | |||
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"just so you are aware.... here is a link to the vote yesterday... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qrII-xDYy0 sorry in advance that the youtube link is to the daily mail, but they offer no opinions, just the footage of the vote Russia vetoed because they want a true independent enquiry not one of these white helmet false evidence enquirys. " Ok who do you suggest then? The problems are that the U.N. is out of date. The security council permanent members hold all the power. Like the League of Nations which it replaced it has outlived its usefulness in its current format. | |||
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"Its a good day to call in sick if you work for Syrian air defence.
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"Its a good day to call in sick if you work for Syrian air defence.
The usa coalition have plenty experience of killing civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, so letz hope not too many Syrian cilians are killed then eh?!
I'm sure your compassion for civilian casualties extends to the children gassed this week and on all the other occasions assad used chemical weapons against children. "Goes without saying. Same as palistinian civilians under isreali fire and Yemeni civilians under Saudi Arabian fire with british made cluster bombs, supported by the the USA and UK led HYPOCRITS! | |||
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"why are people so adament Assad is to blame? there is NO proof he gassed his own people its other facts that are responsible and even the UN has said that. does Syria have oil? The elite have oil in their sights and they want it Wake the hell up and learn from Iraq no WMD were ever found! And many innocent people were killed the elite pricks do not care about you they see money in all of this they will be tucked up nice and safe out the way and collect their blood money fucking discusting!!! Alternate theories include? Martians...they did it themselves...we did it or it was Bart Simpson
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So is it just go bombing alot of innocent people without any evidence ?
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" Russia vetoed because they want a true independent enquiry not one of these white helmet false evidence enquirys.
"hmmm..... now, lets see the wording of the actual un resolution.... "the Council would established the United Nations independent mechanism for an initial period of one year. It would request the Secretary-General to make recommendations about the mechanism including its terms of reference, based on the principles of impartiality, independence and professionalism, to identify those responsible for the use of chemical weapons in Syria. Condemning the use of such weapons in the strongest terms, the Council would also have expressed full support for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) fact-finding mission, which was already investigating the Douma incident. It calls on all parties in Syria to fully cooperate with both investigations and allow them immediate, unfettered, safe and secure access to all relevant witnesses, evidence, reporting, materials and sites" now..... nothing about "white helmets" in that........ hmmmmmmmm this is exactly the same organisation and the same set up that was in place in syria until its mandate ran out in november..... and this is what the russians vetoed..... I know that is a hard thing to swallow...... stop making excuses!!! | |||
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"Its a good day to call in sick if you work for Syrian air defence.
The usa coalition have plenty experience of killing civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, so letz hope not too many Syrian cilians are killed then eh?!
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"Its a good day to call in sick if you work for Syrian air defence.
The usa coalition have plenty experience of killing civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, so letz hope not too many Syrian cilians are killed then eh?!
I'm sure your compassion for civilian casualties extends to the children gassed this week and on all the other occasions assad used chemical weapons against children. "Alleged, and if true. How about all those killed by USA lead wars bob, and those f4om palistine and yemen. You don't seem concerned about them. I hope you think of that while your "yee haaaing" the telivised bombings aired live from Syria. Remember there could be kids on the receiving end. | |||
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"The USA or us getting involved is just going to make it worse. Putin is there at the request of the Cyrian government we have not been invited. If the USA or the uk go into Syria then it will be seen as an act of war by both of them and they will retaliate
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"The USA or us getting involved is just going to make it worse. Putin is there at the request of the Cyrian government we have not been invited. If the USA or the uk go into Syria then it will be seen as an act of war by both of them and they will retaliate
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"Its a good day to call in sick if you work for Syrian air defence.
The usa coalition have plenty experience of killing civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, so letz hope not too many Syrian cilians are killed then eh?!
I'm sure your compassion for civilian casualties extends to the children gassed this week and on all the other occasions assad used chemical weapons against children. "All the other occasions that no proof has ever been forthcoming you mean? General Mattis recently said there has been no evidence of chemical weapon use by Assad. Mind you, Tony Blair says he has so it must be true, he's as honest as the day is long. | |||
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" Russia vetoed because they want a true independent enquiry not one of these white helmet false evidence enquirys.
hmmm..... now, lets see the wording of the actual un resolution....
"the Council would established the United Nations independent mechanism for an initial period of one year. It would request the Secretary-General to make recommendations about the mechanism including its terms of reference, based on the principles of impartiality, independence and professionalism, to identify those responsible for the use of chemical weapons in Syria.
Condemning the use of such weapons in the strongest terms, the Council would also have expressed full support for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) fact-finding mission, which was already investigating the Douma incident. It calls on all parties in Syria to fully cooperate with both investigations and allow them immediate, unfettered, safe and secure access to all relevant witnesses, evidence, reporting, materials and sites"
now..... nothing about "white helmets" in that........ hmmmmmmmm
this is exactly the same organisation and the same set up that was in place in syria until its mandate ran out in november.....
and this is what the russians vetoed..... I know that is a hard thing to swallow...... stop making excuses!!! "Good to point out that the supposed Russian alternative called for an independent assessment but allowed Russia to look at the findings and allowed Russia a veto on the results ever being made public....so there would be a private UN report..Russia would veto..it would never be released and Russia can claim it allowed an inspection to occur....how perverse is that... Just about sums up the logic of a totalitarian state who thinks they can control everything...and be believed by both domestic and western suckers. Note Mr Corby is staying remarkably quite...think the cats grabbed his balls...well a very small cat | |||
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"Well that's things resolved then.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6023419/jeremy-corbyns-brother-shares-vile-conspiracy-theories-claiming-syria-chemical-attack-is-a-hoax/ Corbyns brother claims Syria attack a hoax designed to make corbyn look weak to voters. .. BLOODY HELL...WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT THEORY. .. it's so obvious...lol"Oh aye, the sun, a reliable intellectual source | |||
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"Well that's things resolved then.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6023419/jeremy-corbyns-brother-shares-vile-conspiracy-theories-claiming-syria-chemical-attack-is-a-hoax/ Corbyns brother claims Syria attack a hoax designed to make corbyn look weak to voters. .. BLOODY HELL...WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT THEORY. .. it's so obvious...lol"Can't we just blame the jews . | |||
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"Well that's things resolved then.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6023419/jeremy-corbyns-brother-shares-vile-conspiracy-theories-claiming-syria-chemical-attack-is-a-hoax/ Corbyns brother claims Syria attack a hoax designed to make corbyn look weak to voters. .. BLOODY HELL...WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT THEORY. .. it's so obvious...lol Can't we just blame the jews . ". I think there's some on here, it could be you maybe, or the other guy. But it's probably Fabio ...
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"Well that's things resolved then.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6023419/jeremy-corbyns-brother-shares-vile-conspiracy-theories-claiming-syria-chemical-attack-is-a-hoax/ Corbyns brother claims Syria attack a hoax designed to make corbyn look weak to voters. .. BLOODY HELL...WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT THEORY. .. it's so obvious...lol Can't we just blame the jews . "Now there's a thought... | |||
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"So on the eve of being victorious, Assad decides to use chemical weapons knowing full well it would bring a world of shot raining down on him? Sorry I don't buy it. Always ask "who benefits from this?" Not Assad for sure. The U.S. and Israel absolutely " Exactly | |||
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"So on the eve of being victorious, Assad decides to use chemical weapons knowing full well it would bring a world of shot raining down on him? Sorry I don't buy it. Always ask "who benefits from this?" Not Assad for sure. The U.S. and Israel absolutely Exactly "Was not being serious...you can say a lot of things about Israel but they do have a intate sense of survival....really don't think they would court the anger of the entire Arab world ...breach the Chemical Weapons Treaty....and isolate key western allies | |||
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"So on the eve of being victorious, Assad decides to use chemical weapons knowing full well it would bring a world of shot raining down on him? Sorry I don't buy it. Always ask "who benefits from this?" Not Assad for sure. The U.S. and Israel absolutely Exactly
Was not being serious...you can say a lot of things about Israel but they do have a intate sense of survival....really don't think they would court the anger of the entire Arab world ...breach the Chemical Weapons Treaty....and isolate key western allies ". You must be joking surely... The entire Arab world, they've been pretty much in league with Saudi Arabia for 15 years, they both have common goals of riding the world of shias | |||
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"So on the eve of being victorious, Assad decides to use chemical weapons knowing full well it would bring a world of shot raining down on him? Sorry I don't buy it. Always ask "who benefits from this?" Not Assad for sure. The U.S. and Israel absolutely Exactly
Was not being serious...you can say a lot of things about Israel but they do have a intate sense of survival....really don't think they would court the anger of the entire Arab world ...breach the Chemical Weapons Treaty....and isolate key western allies "Isreal does all of that. The key difference being allies with the usa. Isreal used white phosphorus on Palestinians, routinely shooting unarmed people and invading territory but hey, being in with the good ol usa, these things like routinely breaking international rules on a routine basis just get brushed aside. | |||
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"What I find quite bizarre is the leftish centrists on here are pretty much all for war!. I mean I can see why they liked Clinton so much now. There not alone, pretty much all the media is for war, all the mainstream commentators are for war. The odd thing is the left left like cenk at young Turks and Jeremy Corbyn are now in alignment with the right right like tucker Carlson on fox and info wars. It seems like neither of them like centrists like Blair Clinton Bush and may?" I think that with the general drift of mainstream politics to the right from Thatcher onwards, Current "leftish Centrists" are in fact, right wing. | |||
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"What I find quite bizarre is the leftish centrists on here are pretty much all for war!. I mean I can see why they liked Clinton so much now. There not alone, pretty much all the media is for war, all the mainstream commentators are for war. The odd thing is the left left like cenk at young Turks and Jeremy Corbyn are now in alignment with the right right like tucker Carlson on fox and info wars. It seems like neither of them like centrists like Blair Clinton Bush and may?" True. It's not a left/right divide anymore, it's seems like a left/right alignment against centrists. The left/right nationalists don't want wars and it's the centrist globalists who the mainstream media are in league with, who want war. Blair and Bill Clinton in Northern Ireland yesterday for instance, Blair just as bloodthirsty as he ever was over Iraq, and he's calling for Theresa May to take action without a vote in Parliament. | |||
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"What I find quite bizarre is the leftish centrists on here are pretty much all for war!. I mean I can see why they liked Clinton so much now. There not alone, pretty much all the media is for war, all the mainstream commentators are for war. The odd thing is the left left like cenk at young Turks and Jeremy Corbyn are now in alignment with the right right like tucker Carlson on fox and info wars. It seems like neither of them like centrists like Blair Clinton Bush and may?" The right have been suckling at the Russian titty for far to long to muster tje chutzpah to cluster fuck assad or Putin.Such is the abysmal position the right finds its self in. | |||
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"What I find quite bizarre is the leftish centrists on here are pretty much all for war!. I mean I can see why they liked Clinton so much now. There not alone, pretty much all the media is for war, all the mainstream commentators are for war. The odd thing is the left left like cenk at young Turks and Jeremy Corbyn are now in alignment with the right right like tucker Carlson on fox and info wars. It seems like neither of them like centrists like Blair Clinton Bush and may? The right have been suckling at the Russian titty for far to long to muster tje chutzpah to cluster fuck assad or Putin.Such is the abysmal position the right finds its self in. ". And the left? | |||
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"Nothing good is going to come out of the UK getting involved and I agree she would walk away. I agree, we should stay away from it. Like what we did in the 1930's? We kept away for as long as possible but were forced in by Hitler's actions. Putin will do the same." Putin is not hitler, the americans and the bankers who finance them and control them are the greatest threat to human life on this planet, those bankers are the Rothchilds. | |||
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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? " we will do and follow the Yanks as per usual ! | |||
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"Just heard on the news Kuwaiti airlines have announced in the last half hour they are suspending flights over Lebanese airspace after warnings from Cyprus. Cyprus is where a British RAF base currently has RAF Tornados on standby. " Most airlines have avoided Lebanese and Syrian airspace for years now. Only their internal carriers are active in that airspace. The Cyprus warning was given by Eurocontrol, the body that coordinates airspace protocol for the EU, and is more to do with possible radio interference on missle jamming systems in that area. The USS Donald Cook, a guided missile destroyer, left Larnaca in Cyprus on April 9th, destination unknown. | |||
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"The Syrian government, propped up militarily by Russia and Iran, is on verge of winning the civil war. Trump declares last week he is pulling out 2000 US troops from Syria. Douma is the last rebel-held town and about to fall. Images emerge at the weekend of people suffering a chemical attack. Within hours, Israel bombs an air base where the Iranians are located. Trump promises to get more involved, not less. The Turks, a member of NATO, continue to bomb the Kurds, who are armed by other NATO countries. The Saudis continue to arm Jihadis and find common cause with Israel in trying to destroy Iran and any of its allies. Theresa May has to decide if Britain will bomb Syria. What do you think she should do? we will do and follow the Yanks as per usual !" Think if u read the attached our reasons will be deeper than just following the yanks...clearly syria has somehow been implicated in the Salisbury attacks...unless of course u believe it's OK to use chemical weapons on UK soil with repurcussions...
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"Deposing Assad a secular leader of Syria for what is the question?. For a free Syria like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt.... Like Yemen?... Like Saudi Arabia. They use words like "rebels" to conjure up some illusion in our minds like star wars and the good rebels fighting the evil Galactic empire. There are no good rebels, most of them are far far fucking worse than Assad, they may not gas you but they will throw you off a fucking roof for being gay or stone you to death for not being the right sect but that's fine to centrist liberals, as long as you didn't get gassed. " And its not even certain that this chem attack and the one last year was even commited by assad. | |||
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"Deposing Assad a secular leader of Syria for what is the question?. For a free Syria like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt.... Like Yemen?... Like Saudi Arabia. They use words like "rebels" to conjure up some illusion in our minds like star wars and the good rebels fighting the evil Galactic empire. There are no good rebels, most of them are far far fucking worse than Assad, they may not gas you but they will throw you off a fucking roof for being gay or stone you to death for not being the right sect but that's fine to centrist liberals, as long as you didn't get gassed. " Putin's Russia has draconian anti gay laws and they'll use chemical weapons on the streets of Salisbury unlike jihadi john hell just chop ya head off. Putin will poison you slowly. The right don't like Muslims being homophobic but it's ok for Russia.. .Just saying | |||
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"Deposing Assad a secular leader of Syria for what is the question?. For a free Syria like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt.... Like Yemen?... Like Saudi Arabia. They use words like "rebels" to conjure up some illusion in our minds like star wars and the good rebels fighting the evil Galactic empire. There are no good rebels, most of them are far far fucking worse than Assad, they may not gas you but they will throw you off a fucking roof for being gay or stone you to death for not being the right sect but that's fine to centrist liberals, as long as you didn't get gassed. Putin's Russia has draconian anti gay laws and they'll use chemical weapons on the streets of Salisbury unlike jihadi john hell just chop ya head off. Putin will poison you slowly. The right don't like Muslims being homophobic but it's ok for Russia.. .Just saying "not for this Right Winger Brexit little Englander ! Wrong is Wrong whoever it is ! Tho I may be in a minority  | |||
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"But it’s an old soviet nerve agent developed years ago! How long is the shelf life of these things ? " all depends how you store it | |||
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"But it’s an old soviet nerve agent developed years ago! How long is the shelf life of these things ? all depends how you store it "So really it could be old stock that someone has been storing for just such a time then | |||
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