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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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According to a new poll, voters in Scotland would oppose independence in a second referendum.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-majority-of-scots-would-still-vote-no-in-indyref2-1-4720586/amp
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum? "
not at all, they said "when the time is right" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"According to a new poll, voters in Scotland would oppose independence in a second referendum.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-majority-of-scots-would-still-vote-no-in-indyref2-1-4720586/amp
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Suppose it all depends what poll ppl beleive is accurate,this one was 1038 ppl and the one in glasgow evening times 7288 and was 73% for yes, suppose we will just have to wait see what kind of deal brexit brings |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right""
If Indy was good for Scotland in 2014 it should be good for the country every day.
If the UK recieved a great deal from the eu would the snp really want to stay in the UK ????? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
If Indy was good for Scotland in 2014 it should be good for the country every day.
If the UK recieved a great deal from the eu would the snp really want to stay in the UK ?????"
Morning mate,being an independence party we all know they want to break away from the uk, this was all brought on by the tories by having a brexit referendum and gave the snp the opportunity to get a mandate sooner than they wanted or expected ,i personally dont think we will get a good deal and there will prob be another referendum before march next year |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right""
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case."
And they also said would wait and see how the brexit talks go |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
And they also said would wait and see how the brexit talks go "
Not in there manifesto they didn't. What they said is quoted word for word above, and is quiet clear. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
And they also said would wait and see how the brexit talks go
Not in there manifesto they didn't. What they said is quoted word for word above, and is quiet clear. "
Who mentioned manifesto ? they said after the brexit vote they would wait and see how the brexit talks go and thats what they are doing |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
And they also said would wait and see how the brexit talks go
Not in there manifesto they didn't. What they said is quoted word for word above, and is quiet clear.
Who mentioned manifesto ? they said after the brexit vote they would wait and see how the brexit talks go and thats what they are doing "
We all know manifestos either promise things a political party cannot deliver and/or get ripped up once a party gets into power.
The SNP are no different. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
And they also said would wait and see how the brexit talks go
Not in there manifesto they didn't. What they said is quoted word for word above, and is quiet clear.
Who mentioned manifesto ? they said after the brexit vote they would wait and see how the brexit talks go and thats what they are doing "
Mandates come from a party laying out what they will do in government before they get elected in a document called a manifesto. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
And they also said would wait and see how the brexit talks go
Not in there manifesto they didn't. What they said is quoted word for word above, and is quiet clear.
Who mentioned manifesto ? they said after the brexit vote they would wait and see how the brexit talks go and thats what they are doing
We all know manifestos either promise things a political party cannot deliver and/or get ripped up once a party gets into power.
The SNP are no different."
Cant disagree with that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case."
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May"
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
"
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
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your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
.
your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
"
Firstly, it's not my thread, secondly it's a claimed mandate, because they put something in their manifesto for the Scottish Parliament, which is not devolved to Scotland. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
.
your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
Firstly, it's not my thread, secondly it's a claimed mandate, because they put something in their manifesto for the Scottish Parliament, which is not devolved to Scotland. "
You said; will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have
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your wording as if they do not have one, of course they have one, it was being put in place for a referendum before May jamp in with an election |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
.
your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
Firstly, it's not my thread, secondly it's a claimed mandate, because they put something in their manifesto for the Scottish Parliament, which is not devolved to Scotland. "
Why not stick to the ops original post about the polls |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
"
And because of that material change they have a mandate to have another referendum and will decide when it will be once we see what sort of deal the uk get from brexit talks,its pretty simple to understand really |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
And because of that material change they have a mandate to have another referendum and will decide when it will be once we see what sort of deal the uk get from brexit talks,its pretty simple to understand really "
This and any other opinion poll is irrelevant.
So how will the SNP know there is clear and sustained evidence that independence had become the preferred option of a majority of the Scottish people, particularly when they got this so spectacularly wrong in 2014?
Maybe they have employed Cambridge Analytica... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
.
your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
Firstly, it's not my thread, secondly it's a claimed mandate, because they put something in their manifesto for the Scottish Parliament, which is not devolved to Scotland.
Why not stick to the ops original post about the polls"
I just checked the Evening Times poll which was just a rehash of a Sunday Times poll
Yes 34% no 57 %.
To be honest as we are along way from another referendum at the moment it is pointless.
All it proves since Nov there has not been a large material change either way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
.
your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
Firstly, it's not my thread, secondly it's a claimed mandate, because they put something in their manifesto for the Scottish Parliament, which is not devolved to Scotland.
Why not stick to the ops original post about the polls
I just checked the Evening Times poll which was just a rehash of a Sunday Times poll
Yes 34% no 57 %.
To be honest as we are along way from another referendum at the moment it is pointless.
All it proves since Nov there has not been a large material change either way."
The online one was 77% yes 23%no mate seen it online this morning |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
And because of that material change they have a mandate to have another referendum and will decide when it will be once we see what sort of deal the uk get from brexit talks,its pretty simple to understand really "
So you disagree with Cask then? 
But again, it's a so called mandate because the power to hold a legally binding referendum is not devolved to the Scottish Parliament. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
And because of that material change they have a mandate to have another referendum and will decide when it will be once we see what sort of deal the uk get from brexit talks,its pretty simple to understand really
So you disagree with Cask then?
But again, it's a so called mandate because the power to hold a legally binding referendum is not devolved to the Scottish Parliament. "
So you think Westminster would try block it ? |
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over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
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your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
Firstly, it's not my thread, secondly it's a claimed mandate, because they put something in their manifesto for the Scottish Parliament, which is not devolved to Scotland.
Why not stick to the ops original post about the polls
I just checked the Evening Times poll which was just a rehash of a Sunday Times poll
Yes 34% no 57 %.
To be honest as we are along way from another referendum at the moment it is pointless.
All it proves since Nov there has not been a large material change either way.
The online one was 77% yes 23%no mate seen it online this morning "
I had a look and all I could find for the Evening Times was the article from the 8 th of April and it was 57 % against and 43 % for.
I did make a typo and say yes was at 34 %....my mistake. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
And because of that material change they have a mandate to have another referendum and will decide when it will be once we see what sort of deal the uk get from brexit talks,its pretty simple to understand really
So you disagree with Cask then?
But again, it's a so called mandate because the power to hold a legally binding referendum is not devolved to the Scottish Parliament.
So you think Westminster would try block it ?"
I didn't say that, but it's not a power that the Scottish Parliament has.
How would you like it if Westminster MPs for let's say the Tories put in their manifesto that they were going to start charging for prescriptions in Scotland, and introduce tuition fees in Scotland. Do you think people in Scotland would be pissed off that they were doing something that is the responsibility of the Scottish Parliament? |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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You can all see what CLCC is doing things England rule the UK and have the right to tell Scotland shut the fuck up also thinks the people of Scotland that we you can vote for a independence referendum but Westminster have the power to go against the Scottish peoples wishes UK is a dictatorship
This is clearly about some people ie CLCC ''they'' have a very nasty way of thinking that England have the right to dictate the terms to when Scotland can have a referendum
That shite feart are some people in England that they will be waving cheerio to the UK they will do anything and i mean any dirty shitty trick to keep the UK together
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again "
Have you actually made a "section 30" application for the UK Government to accept or reject?
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have you actually made a "section 30" application for the UK Government to accept or reject?
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I believe the answer to that was "now is not the time"  |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have you actually made a "section 30" application for the UK Government to accept or reject?
"
How many more times before people get it
the Section 30 order was passed democratically in the Scottish parilament thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament
The section 30 order was never offically handed over to the UK government the weak UK PM tried to seek in and say '' Now is not the time'' to try and put a stop to independence talk not working lmao
So when is time to have a referendum eh ? Be great to hear from all the people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland should have a referendum on indepencence
You should all know the Scottish government have a mandate do not question it its fact!! And the Scottish government have side they will try and get the best deal for Scotland and the UK is that doesnt happen and we then know the final brexit deal and its a hard brexit then 100% whether you like it or not Scotland will have a referendum on independence
The unionist mob can state their case for Scotland to stay in the UK thats fine by me more than welcome to do so as it will be great to expose unionist lies be my guest
and no one will stop unionists going to the polling stations and voting no to indpendence what unionists are afraid of is people changing their minds thats why they are so hell bend to try and stop a mandate from the people of Scotland |
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I will happily drive unionists to the polling station to vote for Independence; im that helpful type of guy;
whether they get there or not is a totally different story;
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sooner we have a referendum the better,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSH0eRKq1lE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSH0eRKq1lE
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again "
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!! |
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have you actually made a "section 30" application for the UK Government to accept or reject?
I believe the answer to that was "now is not the time" "
Why is not the time ???
Indy would have been great in 2014 so why not today ????
If Indy is such a great thing it will be an easy sell !!!
There has not been a big brexit bounce but if Indy is good let's have it now !!! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!"
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!! |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have you actually made a "section 30" application for the UK Government to accept or reject?
How many more times before people get it
the Section 30 order was passed democratically in the Scottish parilament thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament
The section 30 order was never offically handed over to the UK government the weak UK PM tried to seek in and say '' Now is not the time'' to try and put a stop to independence talk not working lmao
So when is time to have a referendum eh ? Be great to hear from all the people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland should have a referendum on indepencence
You should all know the Scottish government have a mandate do not question it its fact!! And the Scottish government have side they will try and get the best deal for Scotland and the UK is that doesnt happen and we then know the final brexit deal and its a hard brexit then 100% whether you like it or not Scotland will have a referendum on independence
The unionist mob can state their case for Scotland to stay in the UK thats fine by me more than welcome to do so as it will be great to expose unionist lies be my guest
and no one will stop unionists going to the polling stations and voting no to indpendence what unionists are afraid of is people changing their minds thats why they are so hell bend to try and stop a mandate from the people of Scotland "
Well you've certainly changed your time. I'm glad that you are starting to understand how politics works though. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have you actually made a "section 30" application for the UK Government to accept or reject?
How many more times before people get it
the Section 30 order was passed democratically in the Scottish parilament thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament
The section 30 order was never offically handed over to the UK government the weak UK PM tried to seek in and say '' Now is not the time'' to try and put a stop to independence talk not working lmao
So when is time to have a referendum eh ? Be great to hear from all the people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland should have a referendum on indepencence
You should all know the Scottish government have a mandate do not question it its fact!! And the Scottish government have side they will try and get the best deal for Scotland and the UK is that doesnt happen and we then know the final brexit deal and its a hard brexit then 100% whether you like it or not Scotland will have a referendum on independence
The unionist mob can state their case for Scotland to stay in the UK thats fine by me more than welcome to do so as it will be great to expose unionist lies be my guest
and no one will stop unionists going to the polling stations and voting no to indpendence what unionists are afraid of is people changing their minds thats why they are so hell bend to try and stop a mandate from the people of Scotland
Well you've certainly changed your time. I'm glad that you are starting to understand how politics works though. "
WTF no thats what i have said along |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have you actually made a "section 30" application for the UK Government to accept or reject?
How many more times before people get it
the Section 30 order was passed democratically in the Scottish parilament thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament
The section 30 order was never offically handed over to the UK government the weak UK PM tried to seek in and say '' Now is not the time'' to try and put a stop to independence talk not working lmao
So when is time to have a referendum eh ? Be great to hear from all the people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland should have a referendum on indepencence
You should all know the Scottish government have a mandate do not question it its fact!! And the Scottish government have side they will try and get the best deal for Scotland and the UK is that doesnt happen and we then know the final brexit deal and its a hard brexit then 100% whether you like it or not Scotland will have a referendum on independence
The unionist mob can state their case for Scotland to stay in the UK thats fine by me more than welcome to do so as it will be great to expose unionist lies be my guest
and no one will stop unionists going to the polling stations and voting no to indpendence what unionists are afraid of is people changing their minds thats why they are so hell bend to try and stop a mandate from the people of Scotland
Well you've certainly changed your time. I'm glad that you are starting to understand how politics works though.
WTF no thats what i have said along"
No, you have previously said that the people decide when a referendum happens, now you seem to have finally accepted that the politicians will decide. |
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have you actually made a "section 30" application for the UK Government to accept or reject?
I believe the answer to that was "now is not the time"
Why is not the time ???
Indy would have been great in 2014 so why not today ????
If Indy is such a great thing it will be an easy sell !!!
There has not been a big brexit bounce but if Indy is good let's have it now !!!"
You need to ask your great Tory Leader Mrs May that question, it was indeed her that said it, or have you forgotten? |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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Lmao
CLCC start reading get your glasses on lol
I have always siad it the people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum
Incase its escaped your memory the people of Scotland elected the SNP giving the SNP a mandate
Then March 2017 the Scottish parilament debated and voted democractically on the section 30 order thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament that goes along with the peoples mandate duh!!!!!
Your PM shat a brick and claimed ''now is not the time'' to try and stop independence being talked about oh well boohoo it didnt work lmao
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Lmao
CLCC start reading get your glasses on lol
I have always siad it the people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum
Incase its escaped your memory the people of Scotland elected the SNP giving the SNP a mandate
Then March 2017 the Scottish parilament debated and voted democractically on the section 30 order thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament that goes along with the peoples mandate duh!!!!!
Your PM shat a brick and claimed ''now is not the time'' to try and stop independence being talked about oh well boohoo it didnt work lmao
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Hmm, my head is still spinning from the speed of your U Turn!
So please can you just clarify your position for me? Do you believe
1. The Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it.
OR
2. The people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum.
1 or 2? |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
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SNP MSP Pete Wishart, who isn't shy about dishing out abuse on twitter, is now complaining about being attacked on twitter by pro-indy supporters after saying that he doesn't believe the time is right for an indy referendum. He points out his majority of 10,000 was cut to 21 at the last election and doesn't believe there is an appetite for it.
https://petewishart.wordpress.com/2018/04/08/we-must-conduct-our-debate-with-respect/
He's finally owning up to what we've known all along about the cybernats
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-mp-pete-wishart-rails-against-online-abuse-from-indy-supporters-1-4720762 |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"Lmao
CLCC start reading get your glasses on lol
I have always siad it the people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum
Incase its escaped your memory the people of Scotland elected the SNP giving the SNP a mandate
Then March 2017 the Scottish parilament debated and voted democractically on the section 30 order thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament that goes along with the peoples mandate duh!!!!!
Your PM shat a brick and claimed ''now is not the time'' to try and stop independence being talked about oh well boohoo it didnt work lmao
Hmm, my head is still spinning from the speed of your U Turn!
So please can you just clarify your position for me? Do you believe
1. The Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it.
OR
2. The people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum.
1 or 2? "
CLCC read again
The people of Scotland ''ELECTED THE SNP '' the people of Scotland gave the SNP a mandate to deliver on a referendum on independence
The people of Scotland decided they want a referendum
The Scottish government have been clear they will decide whats best for Scotland when the final deal is known to deliver on that mandate from the people
I get your crapping yourself and the thought Scotland and ''only'' Scotland will decide its own future
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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CLCC do you want England to rule the UK ?
Remember before you answer tell people how you believe England should get the biggest say on how the UK is run
Anyone still wondering why people want independence when you have people like CLCC that believe Scotland , Wales and NI should be brought under English rule |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Lmao
CLCC start reading get your glasses on lol
I have always siad it the people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum
Incase its escaped your memory the people of Scotland elected the SNP giving the SNP a mandate
Then March 2017 the Scottish parilament debated and voted democractically on the section 30 order thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament that goes along with the peoples mandate duh!!!!!
Your PM shat a brick and claimed ''now is not the time'' to try and stop independence being talked about oh well boohoo it didnt work lmao
Hmm, my head is still spinning from the speed of your U Turn!
So please can you just clarify your position for me? Do you believe
1. The Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it.
OR
2. The people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum.
1 or 2?
CLCC read again
The people of Scotland ''ELECTED THE SNP '' the people of Scotland gave the SNP a mandate to deliver on a referendum on independence
The people of Scotland decided they want a referendum
The Scottish government have been clear they will decide whats best for Scotland when the final deal is known to deliver on that mandate from the people
I get your crapping yourself and the thought Scotland and ''only'' Scotland will decide its own future
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!"
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced."
1.Heres a thought Greenoakmale ask the SNP you have a an SNP mp in Inverclyde
2. Right so if there is no good brexit deal which you seem to think there wont be the SNP have every right to use the mandate correct ?
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced.
1.Heres a thought Greenoakmale ask the SNP you have a an SNP mp in Inverclyde
2. Right so if there is no good brexit deal which you seem to think there wont be the SNP have every right to use the mandate correct ?
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced.
1.Heres a thought Greenoakmale ask the SNP you have a an SNP mp in Inverclyde
2. Right so if there is no good brexit deal which you seem to think there wont be the SNP have every right to use the mandate correct ?
use your mandate that you had to have the greens to agree to any time you want "
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ?
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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Btw the case for indpendence keeps on growing heres the latest bullshit from the Tories trying to screw Scotland
DWP following their decision to delay the ability for Scotland to abolish the bedroom tax at source
Oh what a fucking surprise the bitch Esther McVey is in charge of work and pensions and dont give me any of that crap why you calling her a bitch read up on her history then try and defend the bitch |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Lmao
CLCC start reading get your glasses on lol
I have always siad it the people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum
Incase its escaped your memory the people of Scotland elected the SNP giving the SNP a mandate
Then March 2017 the Scottish parilament debated and voted democractically on the section 30 order thats a mandate from the Scottish parilament that goes along with the peoples mandate duh!!!!!
Your PM shat a brick and claimed ''now is not the time'' to try and stop independence being talked about oh well boohoo it didnt work lmao
Hmm, my head is still spinning from the speed of your U Turn!
So please can you just clarify your position for me? Do you believe
1. The Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it.
OR
2. The people of Scotland that will decide when they want a referendum.
1 or 2?
CLCC read again
The people of Scotland ''ELECTED THE SNP '' the people of Scotland gave the SNP a mandate to deliver on a referendum on independence
The people of Scotland decided they want a referendum
The Scottish government have been clear they will decide whats best for Scotland when the final deal is known to deliver on that mandate from the people
I get your crapping yourself and the thought Scotland and ''only'' Scotland will decide its own future
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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Waiting on this getting answered CLCC
CLCC do you want England to rule the UK ?
Remember before you answer tell people how you believe England should get the biggest say on how the UK is run
Anyone still wondering why people want independence when you have people like CLCC that believe Scotland , Wales and NI should be brought under English rule |
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced.
1.Heres a thought Greenoakmale ask the SNP you have a an SNP mp in Inverclyde
2. Right so if there is no good brexit deal which you seem to think there wont be the SNP have every right to use the mandate correct ?
use your mandate that you had to have the greens to agree to any time you want
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ?
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the green manifesto which is published online stated it would only support another Indy ref if there was a million person petition.
Suprise suprise it disappeared !!! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced.
1.Heres a thought Greenoakmale ask the SNP you have a an SNP mp in Inverclyde
2. Right so if there is no good brexit deal which you seem to think there wont be the SNP have every right to use the mandate correct ?
use your mandate that you had to have the greens to agree to any time you want
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ?
the green manifesto which is published online stated it would only support another Indy ref if there was a million person petition.
Suprise suprise it disappeared !!!"
Oops you have managed to miss out questions i asked you i do wonder why here they are again
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ? |
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced.
1.Heres a thought Greenoakmale ask the SNP you have a an SNP mp in Inverclyde
2. Right so if there is no good brexit deal which you seem to think there wont be the SNP have every right to use the mandate correct ?
use your mandate that you had to have the greens to agree to any time you want
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ?
the green manifesto which is published online stated it would only support another Indy ref if there was a million person petition.
Suprise suprise it disappeared !!!
Oops you have managed to miss out questions i asked you i do wonder why here they are again
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ? "
I already answered mandate away to your hearts content.
There is a huge difference between agreeing policy day to day with another party to keep things going and applying for a single indyref.
Both questions answered. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced.
1.Heres a thought Greenoakmale ask the SNP you have a an SNP mp in Inverclyde
2. Right so if there is no good brexit deal which you seem to think there wont be the SNP have every right to use the mandate correct ?
use your mandate that you had to have the greens to agree to any time you want
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ?
the green manifesto which is published online stated it would only support another Indy ref if there was a million person petition.
Suprise suprise it disappeared !!!
Oops you have managed to miss out questions i asked you i do wonder why here they are again
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ?
I already answered mandate away to your hearts content.
There is a huge difference between agreeing policy day to day with another party to keep things going and applying for a single indyref.
Both questions answered."
Offttt someones angry that the Scottish parliament actually democratically voted 69-59 passed on the section 30 orderthats a mandate
Whats the matter you still along with other unionists get to vote no to Scottish independence i along with many others will really enjoy exposing unionist lies i said shouldnt go promising what you cant deliver or else the people have the right to challenge it and say they want the question on independnece again
one thing is for sure unionists are shit feart i know i know Greenoakmale you will claim your not but 2million no voters how many of them are saying no there shouldnt be another independence referendum when they have no mandate in Scotland to stop a referendum |
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"As for the poll you all love quoting polls that claim to be against independence
So then why the fuck is your UK government that shite feart to accept the section 30 order ?
The real truth is the are all shite feart that people in Scotland would vote independence sample polls will never ever tell you what the true figure of the what 5 million people in Scotland will vote for or against indpendence
Their is a mandate no question about it thats FACT!!!
We have been all trying to tell you once the final deal on brexit it known then the Scottish government to decide on what is best for Scotland thats what they are in government to do and if its a hard brexit then get ready as the will be 100% a referendum on Scottish independence you may not like it but tough blame the Tories for pulling this UK under threat of breaking up again
Have it tomorrow as far as I am concerned !!!!
Again are people not listening ?
When the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish government will decide on whats best for Scotland if thats a referendum on Scottish independence so be it
You will still be able vote no Greenoakmale
Did you ever think that some people may want to hear what the final brexit deal is before deciding on if they would vote YES or NO to independence for Scotland ?
Brexit is a very big deal and could see Scotland being damaged in a UK hard brexit
But then again you keep saying you aint no unionist right ? not that you have ever on here should you are open minded to indpendence you have shot doon everything about indpendence so sorry if i dont believe pish!!
So you are saying if it is a good brexit deal the snp abandon the indyref2 ???
Obviously both of us know it won't be a great deal.
Once indyref2 is called I will await the opportunity to be convinced.
1.Heres a thought Greenoakmale ask the SNP you have a an SNP mp in Inverclyde
2. Right so if there is no good brexit deal which you seem to think there wont be the SNP have every right to use the mandate correct ?
use your mandate that you had to have the greens to agree to any time you want
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ?
the green manifesto which is published online stated it would only support another Indy ref if there was a million person petition.
Suprise suprise it disappeared !!!
Oops you have managed to miss out questions i asked you i do wonder why here they are again
Did Scottish Labour branch have to get Lib Dem support to be in a coalition from 1999-2007 ?
Do you have trouble with the mandate given to the Scottish government in the Scottish parilament ? Was it not a democratic vote on the section 30 order ?
I already answered mandate away to your hearts content.
There is a huge difference between agreeing policy day to day with another party to keep things going and applying for a single indyref.
Both questions answered.
Offttt someones angry that the Scottish parliament actually democratically voted 69-59 passed on the section 30 orderthats a mandate
Whats the matter you still along with other unionists get to vote no to Scottish independence i along with many others will really enjoy exposing unionist lies i said shouldnt go promising what you cant deliver or else the people have the right to challenge it and say they want the question on independnece again
one thing is for sure unionists are shit feart i know i know Greenoakmale you will claim your not but 2million no voters how many of them are saying no there shouldnt be another independence referendum when they have no mandate in Scotland to stop a referendum "
Why I am I angry have you indy ref whenever you want !!!
Just wondering if you have read any of Pete washarts thoughts on another Indy ref ?? |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Waiting on this getting answered CLCC
CLCC do you want England to rule the UK ?
Remember before you answer tell people how you believe England should get the biggest say on how the UK is run
Anyone still wondering why people want independence when you have people like CLCC that believe Scotland , Wales and NI should be brought under English rule"
So no answer on who decides the timing then?
You are not man enough to admit that it's the government, despite saying that earlier in the thread!
Instead you want me to answer a question that you have asked, and I have answered at least 20 times before. Even if I answer it yet again for you, you will still run like a coward away from my question like you always do. Your inability to answer this, or a myriad of questions put to you shows how hollow your posts are. |
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself "
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!! |
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!"
To do research |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!"
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ? |
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ? "
So you are denying what is a matter of public record ?? |
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As jim sillars wife the late Margo MacDonald said of the snp
Only two people in the party ( snp ) can count past ten and I was one of them !!!
I don't think sillars kept his membership up as he disliked Salmondski and the the love affair with the eu !!! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ?
So you are denying what is a matter of public record ??"
Read what i put and deny that ?
Also how does one become a Scottish Labour party member ? Have you tried because it redirects you onto the UK Labour party and joining them but what if a Labour voter in Scotland doesnt agree with Corbyn he or she wants to become a Scottish Labour party member ?
It doesnt exist correct ? So its fraud and misleading people the more people that know this the better then you will be able to see Scottish Labour is a branch office or accounting unit of the UK Labour party
that was all bullshit and a wee stunt Kezia and Corbyn pulled about their fake document that they didnt should the public of this so called party being autonoums
I can see why you dont want people to know this shit wouldnt want the voters seeing the truth of how they are being lied to in Scotland for unionist gain |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"KINKY
CLCC has a thread named; "ask me anything"
why not pop the question there, if he wont answer here"
I do. One of the questions on there is would kinky have the balls to start a similar thread! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"KINKY
CLCC has a thread named; "ask me anything"
why not pop the question there, if he wont answer here
I do. One of the questions on there is would kinky have the balls to start a similar thread! "
I dont have to do nothing i know what your trying to do though and its not working poor wee CLCC lol
You can start any thread you like doesnt bother me lol |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Can I join the English party of the SNP? Or is there just 1 party?
Ok now i know CLCC have lost the plot
Here is a hint its in the title name (Scottish National Party) eh duh!!
So if the SNP just have 1 party, why do you expect other parties to have multiple parties?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ?
So you are denying what is a matter of public record ??
Read what i put and deny that ?
Also how does one become a Scottish Labour party member ? Have you tried because it redirects you onto the UK Labour party and joining them but what if a Labour voter in Scotland doesnt agree with Corbyn he or she wants to become a Scottish Labour party member ?
It doesnt exist correct ? So its fraud and misleading people the more people that know this the better then you will be able to see Scottish Labour is a branch office or accounting unit of the UK Labour party
that was all bullshit and a wee stunt Kezia and Corbyn pulled about their fake document that they didnt should the public of this so called party being autonoums
I can see why you dont want people to know this shit wouldnt want the voters seeing the truth of how they are being lied to in Scotland for unionist gain "
I was a member of the Labour Party for years and was a proud member of the collective brother and sisterhood.
So your guff about the party not being Scottish does not bother me one bit.
Marhai Black and wishart have never spoken out once against the party as far as I am aware.
From what I have been told by friends in Paisely it is doubtful she will stand again and if she does she will not be returned to The Palace of Westminster. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Can I join the English party of the SNP? Or is there just 1 party?
Ok now i know CLCC have lost the plot
Here is a hint its in the title name (Scottish National Party) eh duh!!
So if the SNP just have 1 party, why do you expect other parties to have multiple parties?
"
The SNP are one party
Scottish Labour claim to be a party are you saying this is not true ? |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ?
So you are denying what is a matter of public record ??
Read what i put and deny that ?
Also how does one become a Scottish Labour party member ? Have you tried because it redirects you onto the UK Labour party and joining them but what if a Labour voter in Scotland doesnt agree with Corbyn he or she wants to become a Scottish Labour party member ?
It doesnt exist correct ? So its fraud and misleading people the more people that know this the better then you will be able to see Scottish Labour is a branch office or accounting unit of the UK Labour party
that was all bullshit and a wee stunt Kezia and Corbyn pulled about their fake document that they didnt should the public of this so called party being autonoums
I can see why you dont want people to know this shit wouldnt want the voters seeing the truth of how they are being lied to in Scotland for unionist gain
I was a member of the Labour Party for years and was a proud member of the collective brother and sisterhood.
So your guff about the party not being Scottish does not bother me one bit.
Marhai Black and wishart have never spoken out once against the party as far as I am aware.
From what I have been told by friends in Paisely it is doubtful she will stand again and if she does she will not be returned to The Palace of Westminster."
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Can I join the English party of the SNP? Or is there just 1 party?
Ok now i know CLCC have lost the plot
Here is a hint its in the title name (Scottish National Party) eh duh!!
So if the SNP just have 1 party, why do you expect other parties to have multiple parties?
The SNP are one party
Scottish Labour claim to be a party are you saying this is not true ? "
What a surprise, yet another question you can't answer! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ?
So you are denying what is a matter of public record ??
Read what i put and deny that ?
Also how does one become a Scottish Labour party member ? Have you tried because it redirects you onto the UK Labour party and joining them but what if a Labour voter in Scotland doesnt agree with Corbyn he or she wants to become a Scottish Labour party member ?
It doesnt exist correct ? So its fraud and misleading people the more people that know this the better then you will be able to see Scottish Labour is a branch office or accounting unit of the UK Labour party
that was all bullshit and a wee stunt Kezia and Corbyn pulled about their fake document that they didnt should the public of this so called party being autonoums
I can see why you dont want people to know this shit wouldnt want the voters seeing the truth of how they are being lied to in Scotland for unionist gain
I was a member of the Labour Party for years and was a proud member of the collective brother and sisterhood.
So your guff about the party not being Scottish does not bother me one bit.
Marhai Black and wishart have never spoken out once against the party as far as I am aware.
From what I have been told by friends in Paisely it is doubtful she will stand again and if she does she will not be returned to The Palace of Westminster."
so you voted for Jim Murphy & Kezia Dugdale |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ?
So you are denying what is a matter of public record ??
Read what i put and deny that ?
Also how does one become a Scottish Labour party member ? Have you tried because it redirects you onto the UK Labour party and joining them but what if a Labour voter in Scotland doesnt agree with Corbyn he or she wants to become a Scottish Labour party member ?
It doesnt exist correct ? So its fraud and misleading people the more people that know this the better then you will be able to see Scottish Labour is a branch office or accounting unit of the UK Labour party
that was all bullshit and a wee stunt Kezia and Corbyn pulled about their fake document that they didnt should the public of this so called party being autonoums
I can see why you dont want people to know this shit wouldnt want the voters seeing the truth of how they are being lied to in Scotland for unionist gain
I was a member of the Labour Party for years and was a proud member of the collective brother and sisterhood.
So your guff about the party not being Scottish does not bother me one bit.
Marhai Black and wishart have never spoken out once against the party as far as I am aware.
From what I have been told by friends in Paisely it is doubtful she will stand again and if she does she will not be returned to The Palace of Westminster.
So Scottish Labour are not a party correct Greenoakmale ? How embarrassing "
The Labour Party transends all uk borders !!!
Pity I am gonna miss you in your wee tartan jacobite fancy dress outfit !!!
I would love to see you in your wee woolly bunnet trying to rewrite history to say it was a Scotland versus England war !!!!
I wish I could be a amp supporter as you lot have the best dressy up fun !!!! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ?
So you are denying what is a matter of public record ??
Read what i put and deny that ?
Also how does one become a Scottish Labour party member ? Have you tried because it redirects you onto the UK Labour party and joining them but what if a Labour voter in Scotland doesnt agree with Corbyn he or she wants to become a Scottish Labour party member ?
It doesnt exist correct ? So its fraud and misleading people the more people that know this the better then you will be able to see Scottish Labour is a branch office or accounting unit of the UK Labour party
that was all bullshit and a wee stunt Kezia and Corbyn pulled about their fake document that they didnt should the public of this so called party being autonoums
I can see why you dont want people to know this shit wouldnt want the voters seeing the truth of how they are being lied to in Scotland for unionist gain
I was a member of the Labour Party for years and was a proud member of the collective brother and sisterhood.
So your guff about the party not being Scottish does not bother me one bit.
Marhai Black and wishart have never spoken out once against the party as far as I am aware.
From what I have been told by friends in Paisely it is doubtful she will stand again and if she does she will not be returned to The Palace of Westminster.
So Scottish Labour are not a party correct Greenoakmale ? How embarrassing
The Labour Party transends all uk borders !!!
Pity I am gonna miss you in your wee tartan jacobite fancy dress outfit !!!
I would love to see you in your wee woolly bunnet trying to rewrite history to say it was a Scotland versus England war !!!!
I wish I could be a amp supporter as you lot have the best dressy up fun !!!!"
Careful now wouldnt want you saying your going around stalking me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh we will Greenoakmale just didnt shit yourself eh lol
Oh and thank you for bringing up Pete Wishart this will be great to rip you a new one lol
So Greenoakmale you were the one weeks ago claiming the SNP members are not allowed to go against SNP policy they have to sign saying they wouldnt disagree with the SNP
So Pete Wishart thinks we should wait till after 2021 and win a new mandate on having a referendum on independence
Welll he has the right to his opinion but fact is he is not leader of the SNP or FM
So i dont agree with them the SNP have a mandate for this term in government in Scotland
I believe Pete is afraid of his seat more there you go me being honest see SNP dont tell people that cannot disagree
made up bullshit by unionists like yourself
I think you are confusing me with someone else !!!
I have told you many times go for your indyref2 any time you want !!!!
It is a matter of public record that at the party conference it was agreed not to go against the party policy and not to critisise in public.
You continue my tail people to do research it is easily found.
When Indy 2 comes saint Nicola will have plenty of oppertunity to convince me.
I will never ever ever ever vote snp tho !!!
Bullshit!!!
i will give you three names that dont agree with SNP policy
1. Jim Sillars
2. Mhairi Black
3. Pete Wishart
So much for your bullshit that SNP members cant go against the party policy
I think you should be more worked about your wee branch office who cant agree on the colour of shite
The dick gets embarrassed every week in FMQs when he knows hehaw about whats devolved and reversed and i thought Kezia was bad lmao
Lets have a laugh Greenoakmale can you join up to be a Scottish Labour party member ?
So you are denying what is a matter of public record ??
Read what i put and deny that ?
Also how does one become a Scottish Labour party member ? Have you tried because it redirects you onto the UK Labour party and joining them but what if a Labour voter in Scotland doesnt agree with Corbyn he or she wants to become a Scottish Labour party member ?
It doesnt exist correct ? So its fraud and misleading people the more people that know this the better then you will be able to see Scottish Labour is a branch office or accounting unit of the UK Labour party
that was all bullshit and a wee stunt Kezia and Corbyn pulled about their fake document that they didnt should the public of this so called party being autonoums
I can see why you dont want people to know this shit wouldnt want the voters seeing the truth of how they are being lied to in Scotland for unionist gain
I was a member of the Labour Party for years and was a proud member of the collective brother and sisterhood.
So your guff about the party not being Scottish does not bother me one bit.
Marhai Black and wishart have never spoken out once against the party as far as I am aware.
From what I have been told by friends in Paisely it is doubtful she will stand again and if she does she will not be returned to The Palace of Westminster.
So Scottish Labour are not a party correct Greenoakmale ? How embarrassing
The Labour Party transends all uk borders !!!
Pity I am gonna miss you in your wee tartan jacobite fancy dress outfit !!!
I would love to see you in your wee woolly bunnet trying to rewrite history to say it was a Scotland versus England war !!!!
I wish I could be a amp supporter as you lot have the best dressy up fun !!!!
Careful now wouldnt want you saying your going around stalking me "
Mi5 will will have all the pictures !!!!
I wonder if it will have any coverage in Madrid ???
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
.
your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
Firstly, it's not my thread, secondly it's a claimed mandate, because they put something in their manifesto for the Scottish Parliament, which is not devolved to Scotland.
Why not stick to the ops original post about the polls
I just checked the Evening Times poll which was just a rehash of a Sunday Times poll
Yes 34% no 57 %.
To be honest as we are along way from another referendum at the moment it is pointless.
All it proves since Nov there has not been a large material change either way.
The online one was 77% yes 23%no mate seen it online this morning
I had a look and all I could find for the Evening Times was the article from the 8 th of April and it was 57 % against and 43 % for.
I did make a typo and say yes was at 34 %....my mistake."
Mark check evening times online poll how would readers vote 4yrs on from first indyref 77% yes 23% no from 7288 polled the one you quoted is the sunday times |
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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago
Glasgow ish |
I never really like the polls the sample ~1053 people across the Scottish electorate.
It sort of smacks of 8 out of 10 users said this face cream was the bee's knees, (sample size 21).
However, folk like John Curtis seen to think they are valid. So who am I to really care that much.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So will the SNP actually use the mandate they claim to have? If they don't within this Scottish Parliament, what will it mean for them and the people who voted for them because of their promise of holding a referendum?
not at all, they said "when the time is right"
They said:
"We believe that the Scottish
Parliament should have the right to
hold another referendum if there
is clear and sustained evidence
that independence has become the
preferred option of a majority of
the Scottish people – or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will." P.23
So the 2nd part applies in this case.
What part of "when the time is right" do you not understand CLCC
you shout and want things done your way right away and always think you are right.
There will be another referendum, wait and see,
have patience, "when the time is right".
why don't you travel up and join us on our march in May
The bit where it say "or":
or if there is
a significant and material change in
the circumstances that prevailed in
2014, such as Scotland being taken
out of the EU against our will."
whats all this claim nonsense, of course they have a mandate, if you remember back, there we were putting in place the means to have a referendum and then at that very time your beloved May decided to call an "off the cuff" election
.
your thread is simply to stir shit, we up here in Scotland know there will be another referendum "when the time is right"
Firstly, it's not my thread, secondly it's a claimed mandate, because they put something in their manifesto for the Scottish Parliament, which is not devolved to Scotland.
Why not stick to the ops original post about the polls
I just checked the Evening Times poll which was just a rehash of a Sunday Times poll
Yes 34% no 57 %.
To be honest as we are along way from another referendum at the moment it is pointless.
All it proves since Nov there has not been a large material change either way.
The online one was 77% yes 23%no mate seen it online this morning
I had a look and all I could find for the Evening Times was the article from the 8 th of April and it was 57 % against and 43 % for.
I did make a typo and say yes was at 34 %....my mistake.
Mark check evening times online poll how would readers vote 4yrs on from first indyref 77% yes 23% no from 7288 polled the one you quoted is the sunday times "
As another poster stated online polls are too easy to manipulate.
I could vote 5 times with my phone's and laptop and iPad.
As I stated earlier I don't care much for polls.
The panelbase poll only tells us nothing much has changed.
I think this was posted was simply because kinky has decided two polls were great !!! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
No what i have said is polls never ever tell the true figure
Unionists are afraid of knowing the true figure they are hiding behind bushes ready for a jobby lol
Your PM said now is not the time so when is the time to have a Scottish independence referendum ? As the Scottish government have a mandate for one |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself? "
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
"
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment ! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !"
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol |
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !"
Brexit lost the SNP their Majority
they will regain Majority in time, all will return to SNP.
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Lets be serious, who else is there to vote for with Scotland's interests at heart.
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol"
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order |
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order "
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time) |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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Greenoakmale is it '' See no evil , hear no evil , speak no evil ?
Did the Scottish Tory and Scottish Labour branch offices not say they are campaigning against a 2nd independence referendum ?
Ruth Davidson Kezia Dugdale etc and all shit feart to have a new independence referendum
They lost in the elections in Scotland fact!!!
Boring eh you dont seem to care much about democracy in Scotland ? You the openminded non unionists eh |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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Oh ps Greenoakmale
Yes the SNP are a minority government who dont need a coalition they are running the government as a minority government
Unlike Labour who needed help from Lib Dems to have a coalition in Scotland where is Scottish Labour branch now eh ?
Dirty stinking Labour PFI's sending £1 billion underspend money to Westminster 6 houses being build from 1999-2007
yeah thats your pish record wonder why the Scottish Labour branch aint in government eh ? |
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time)"
Read what I stated.
Nothing stopping saint Nicola picking a date in the future and creating a bigger grievence if it is refused.
She is a very different person from alexsi salmonski as she does not like a gamble !!! |
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"Oh ps Greenoakmale
Yes the SNP are a minority government who dont need a coalition they are running the government as a minority government
Unlike Labour who needed help from Lib Dems to have a coalition in Scotland where is Scottish Labour branch now eh ?
Dirty stinking Labour PFI's sending £1 billion underspend money to Westminster 6 houses being build from 1999-2007
yeah thats your pish record wonder why the Scottish Labour branch aint in government eh ? "
PFI is still being used by snp.
They call it not for profit but no company puts money into anything without profit.
Changed name.
same product. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Oh ps Greenoakmale
Yes the SNP are a minority government who dont need a coalition they are running the government as a minority government
Unlike Labour who needed help from Lib Dems to have a coalition in Scotland where is Scottish Labour branch now eh ?
Dirty stinking Labour PFI's sending £1 billion underspend money to Westminster 6 houses being build from 1999-2007
yeah thats your pish record wonder why the Scottish Labour branch aint in government eh ?
PFI is still being used by snp.
They call it not for profit but no company puts money into anything without profit.
Changed name.
same product."
Oh right so trying to pass the blame onto SNP thats sounds about right for Labour and its support
nothing is ever Labour fault in Scotland eh ?
Btw you clearly aint got a scooby doo lol
How many more times Nicola has been very clear when the brexit deal is known then she will decide what is best for Scotland
You dont know what shit is gonna happen with brexit they could extend the leave date who knows so Nicola is quite right to make you unionist sweat it out lol
You will still get to vote no though afraid people have changed their minds which they have their is proof of that and unionists are afraid |
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time)
Read what I stated.
Nothing stopping saint Nicola picking a date in the future and creating a bigger grievence if it is refused.
She is a very different person from alexsi salmonski as she does not like a gamble !!!"
perhaps she is awaiting further outcome of brexit talks, would you condemn her for that? |
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time)
Read what I stated.
Nothing stopping saint Nicola picking a date in the future and creating a bigger grievence if it is refused.
She is a very different person from alexsi salmonski as she does not like a gamble !!!
perhaps she is awaiting further outcome of brexit talks, would you condemn her for that?"
Yes because Indy should be good for the country at all times.
If it is a soft brexit will saint Nicola state to Scotland Indy is now off the table ???
Off course not !!! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time)
Read what I stated.
Nothing stopping saint Nicola picking a date in the future and creating a bigger grievence if it is refused.
She is a very different person from alexsi salmonski as she does not like a gamble !!!
perhaps she is awaiting further outcome of brexit talks, would you condemn her for that?
Yes because Indy should be good for the country at all times.
If it is a soft brexit will saint Nicola state to Scotland Indy is now off the table ???
Off course not !!!"
And you know this how ? |
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time)
Read what I stated.
Nothing stopping saint Nicola picking a date in the future and creating a bigger grievence if it is refused.
She is a very different person from alexsi salmonski as she does not like a gamble !!!
perhaps she is awaiting further outcome of brexit talks, would you condemn her for that?
Yes because Indy should be good for the country at all times.
If it is a soft brexit will saint Nicola state to Scotland Indy is now off the table ???
Off course not !!!"
I agree Independence should be, and is good for Scotland, sadly, some have blinkers on, and others are fooled by Westminster lies, and indeed it is not only Westminster that tells lies, you also have to put up with the likes of BBC and other broadcasting organisations that deliver lies for their own profit and not for the good of the Scots who have the vote.
.
I suspect you are also a victim to this, perhaps one day your mind will clear of the Westminster lies and the corruption of broadcasting companies and tabloids
.
perhaps that is why we have to wait for the right time; and not "rush in"
.
think about it, take time out, |
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time)
Read what I stated.
Nothing stopping saint Nicola picking a date in the future and creating a bigger grievence if it is refused.
She is a very different person from alexsi salmonski as she does not like a gamble !!!
perhaps she is awaiting further outcome of brexit talks, would you condemn her for that?
Yes because Indy should be good for the country at all times.
If it is a soft brexit will saint Nicola state to Scotland Indy is now off the table ???
Off course not !!!
I agree Independence should be, and is good for Scotland, sadly, some have blinkers on, and others are fooled by Westminster lies, and indeed it is not only Westminster that tells lies, you also have to put up with the likes of BBC and other broadcasting organisations that deliver lies for their own profit and not for the good of the Scots who have the vote.
.
I suspect you are also a victim to this, perhaps one day your mind will clear of the Westminster lies and the corruption of broadcasting companies and tabloids
.
perhaps that is why we have to wait for the right time; and not "rush in"
.
think about it, take time out, "
I find your pish insulting and patronising! !!!
I read and look at a wide range of online and various publications! !!!
I don't particularly like the BBC news but respect it.
My favorite news channels are Aljazzera and France 24.
So don't fucking tell me I am fucking stupid just because I don't agree with you !!!!
When the snp present their case for Indy I will make my mind up then !!!
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time)
Read what I stated.
Nothing stopping saint Nicola picking a date in the future and creating a bigger grievence if it is refused.
She is a very different person from alexsi salmonski as she does not like a gamble !!!
perhaps she is awaiting further outcome of brexit talks, would you condemn her for that?
Yes because Indy should be good for the country at all times.
If it is a soft brexit will saint Nicola state to Scotland Indy is now off the table ???
Off course not !!!
I agree Independence should be, and is good for Scotland, sadly, some have blinkers on, and others are fooled by Westminster lies, and indeed it is not only Westminster that tells lies, you also have to put up with the likes of BBC and other broadcasting organisations that deliver lies for their own profit and not for the good of the Scots who have the vote.
.
I suspect you are also a victim to this, perhaps one day your mind will clear of the Westminster lies and the corruption of broadcasting companies and tabloids
.
perhaps that is why we have to wait for the right time; and not "rush in"
.
think about it, take time out,
I find your pish insulting and patronising! !!!
I read and look at a wide range of online and various publications! !!!
I don't particularly like the BBC news but respect it.
My favorite news channels are Aljazzera and France 24.
So don't fucking tell me I am fucking stupid just because I don't agree with you !!!!
When the snp present their case for Indy I will make my mind up then !!!
"
Says the guy that keeps on insulting Nicola Sturgeon by calling her saint Nicola lol
I bet you thought i was amazing for Labour activists going round doors in 2014 telling pensioners that they will lose their money if Scotland becomes independent that how sad and sick Labour are preying on the elderly to safe the UK |
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"The minority Scottish government does not have a mandate for one.
Its a minority government!
Why do you continually delude yourself?
The Scottish parilament debated and voted on a section 30 order thats a democratic vote you may not like it but hey tough titties eh
So the Scottish parliament gave the Scottish goverment a mandate oh boohoo you dont like it lol
The snp used to say
the will of the people
Now that lost their majority and have to rely on the wee green goblin it is
The will of the parliment !
What are unionist so afraid of lmao
You still get to vote no in a referendum i dont care but this campaign to stop a referendum on independence happening is fucking embarrassing its like unionists are chicken shit to let democracy stand.
I know i know Greenoakmale you want one tomorrow but thats you. You arent talking for the whole unionist side and they clearly are afraid to want a referendum
The will of the Scottish spoke and send a majority of pro indy MSP's in Holyrood and a pro indy majority in Westminster try and deny that all you want but tough titties.
Yeah you will see me use tough tittes and probably say what the fuck is that for well see when the unionist side think they can use the pish line of you had your referendum tough shit you lost well they cant really moan eh lol
You do realise saint Nicola can state a date she wants to have her referendum! !!!
It would be great publicity if Westminster said no.
She can then pick a next date and if that is refused them it would be even better.
Not a word from saint Nicola at all. Not a peep.
So can you explain who all these big bad unionists that are scared of another boring devisive referendum? ??
Preferably in alfabetical order
Pssst;
you are aware Westminster did say no (Now is not the time)
Read what I stated.
Nothing stopping saint Nicola picking a date in the future and creating a bigger grievence if it is refused.
She is a very different person from alexsi salmonski as she does not like a gamble !!!
perhaps she is awaiting further outcome of brexit talks, would you condemn her for that?
Yes because Indy should be good for the country at all times.
If it is a soft brexit will saint Nicola state to Scotland Indy is now off the table ???
Off course not !!!
I agree Independence should be, and is good for Scotland, sadly, some have blinkers on, and others are fooled by Westminster lies, and indeed it is not only Westminster that tells lies, you also have to put up with the likes of BBC and other broadcasting organisations that deliver lies for their own profit and not for the good of the Scots who have the vote.
.
I suspect you are also a victim to this, perhaps one day your mind will clear of the Westminster lies and the corruption of broadcasting companies and tabloids
.
perhaps that is why we have to wait for the right time; and not "rush in"
.
think about it, take time out,
I find your pish insulting and patronising! !!!
I read and look at a wide range of online and various publications! !!!
I don't particularly like the BBC news but respect it.
My favorite news channels are Aljazzera and France 24.
So don't fucking tell me I am fucking stupid just because I don't agree with you !!!!
When the snp present their case for Indy I will make my mind up then !!!
Says the guy that keeps on insulting Nicola Sturgeon by calling her saint Nicola lol
I bet you thought i was amazing for Labour activists going round doors in 2014 telling pensioners that they will lose their money if Scotland becomes independent that how sad and sick Labour are preying on the elderly to safe the UK "
As someone who now has all his liquid assests in English banks I think the Labour Party were correct to tell ppl of this !!
To put it simply the brexit is a mess so after indy no one would have been able to give complete guarantees over the long term on anything including pensions.
The treasury did state that were safe but who knows what would have happened next.
At the Smith commision swinny was offered pension control but ran away from taking charge of them as fast as he possibly could. |
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"Labour could not "offer" any powers, as these powers were not theirs to offer.
Do you mean what did they propose?"
Go on then how much were Labour proposing then ? The so called party of devolution my arse!! |
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"Labour could not "offer" any powers, as these powers were not theirs to offer.
Do you mean what did they propose?
Go on then how much were Labour proposing then ? The so called party of devolution my arse!!"
You mean the party through Donald Dewar mad the parliament happen !!!!! |
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"Labour could not "offer" any powers, as these powers were not theirs to offer.
Do you mean what did they propose?
Go on then how much were Labour proposing then ? The so called party of devolution my arse!!
You mean the party through Donald Dewar mad the parliament happen !!!!!"
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"Labour could not "offer" any powers, as these powers were not theirs to offer.
Do you mean what did they propose?
Go on then how much were Labour proposing then ? The so called party of devolution my arse!!
You mean the party through Donald Dewar mad the parliament happen !!!!!
Made"
Offt look at you shit out answering
So how much was Labour "proposing" in the Smith Commission ?
Btw why dont you tell people the whole truth The Council of Europe threatened the UK with expulsion from the CofE if Westminster refused to devolve power to Scotland , Wales and NI
Try and deny that eh !!!
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"Labour could not "offer" any powers, as these powers were not theirs to offer.
Do you mean what did they propose?
Go on then how much were Labour proposing then ? The so called party of devolution my arse!!
You mean the party through Donald Dewar mad the parliament happen !!!!!
Made
Offt look at you shit out answering
So how much was Labour "proposing" in the Smith Commission ?
Btw why dont you tell people the whole truth The Council of Europe threatened the UK with expulsion from the CofE if Westminster refused to devolve power to Scotland , Wales and NI
Try and deny that eh !!!
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ok I will deny it !!!
simple !!!! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"Labour could not "offer" any powers, as these powers were not theirs to offer.
Do you mean what did they propose?
Go on then how much were Labour proposing then ? The so called party of devolution my arse!!
You mean the party through Donald Dewar mad the parliament happen !!!!!
Made
Offt look at you shit out answering
So how much was Labour "proposing" in the Smith Commission ?
Btw why dont you tell people the whole truth The Council of Europe threatened the UK with expulsion from the CofE if Westminster refused to devolve power to Scotland , Wales and NI
Try and deny that eh !!!
ok I will deny it !!!
simple !!!!"
Dont think i didnt notice you dont seem to want to say what Labour ''proposed'' in powers in the Smith Commisson ashamed eh ?
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Scotland should have the power to raise 40% of its budget, through increasing the tax-varying powers to become available through the Scotland Act, from 10p to 15p - potentially raising an extra £2bn
Three-quarters of basic rate income tax would be under the control of the Scottish Parliament, which would also have the power to raise higher rates of tax.
VAT, national insurance contributions, corporation tax, capital gains tax, fuel duty, air passenger duty and inheritance tax should remain reserved to Westminster.
The Barnett formula for distributing public spending around the nations of the UK should continue. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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You lot that ashamed of Labour that you cannot say what Labour ''proposed'' in powers in the Smith Commisson ?
Name each one i can tell you its a very short list from the so called party of devolution
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"You lot that ashamed of Labour that you cannot say what Labour ''proposed'' in powers in the Smith Commisson ?
Name each one i can tell you its a very short list from the so called party of devolution
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You are making the mistake of thinking everyone wanted more power at holyrood.
As I stated before swinny ran away from the difficult areas like pensions !!!
In 2014 the snp were gonna set up a new country in months.
How are they doing so far on the benifits agency that is only gonna mirror the UK one.
How much is the new benifits agency gonna cost the Scottish taxpayer ???
Ooopps we don't know as no one in the snp can count.
How is the new utilities company coming along ???
After spending three hundred thousand quid of tax payers money on consultants it is recomended not to go ahead !!!
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By *inkyHnSCouple
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"You lot that ashamed of Labour that you cannot say what Labour ''proposed'' in powers in the Smith Commisson ?
Name each one i can tell you its a very short list from the so called party of devolution
You are making the mistake of thinking everyone wanted more power at holyrood.
As I stated before swinny ran away from the difficult areas like pensions !!!
In 2014 the snp were gonna set up a new country in months.
How are they doing so far on the benifits agency that is only gonna mirror the UK one.
How much is the new benifits agency gonna cost the Scottish taxpayer ???
Ooopps we don't know as no one in the snp can count.
How is the new utilities company coming along ???
After spending three hundred thousand quid of tax payers money on consultants it is recomended not to go ahead !!!
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Deflection
Now try answering what i actually asked i know for a fact your ashamed to list the powers Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Commission but go ahead try it eh lmao |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Now try answering what i actually asked i know for a fact your ashamed to list the powers Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Commission but go ahead try it eh lmao "
ooooh.... guess who can answer this question......
since i know kinky WON'T like the answer.... and I am guessing that kinky won't ackowledge it and will say someone "blah blah blah victim blah blah..."
I hereby give EVERYBODY permission to copy and paste it to their hearts delight.......
oh... and I think it is worth pointing out that the ALL the people on the 10 person smith commission agreed with the final report... including an SNP representative who happens to be the current Scottish Deputy first minister, John Sweeney.....
so..... here is the link boys and girls (except kinky)... have at it....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29570658
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"You lot that ashamed of Labour that you cannot say what Labour ''proposed'' in powers in the Smith Commisson ?
Name each one i can tell you its a very short list from the so called party of devolution
You are making the mistake of thinking everyone wanted more power at holyrood.
As I stated before swinny ran away from the difficult areas like pensions !!!
In 2014 the snp were gonna set up a new country in months.
How are they doing so far on the benifits agency that is only gonna mirror the UK one.
How much is the new benifits agency gonna cost the Scottish taxpayer ???
Ooopps we don't know as no one in the snp can count.
How is the new utilities company coming along ???
After spending three hundred thousand quid of tax payers money on consultants it is recomended not to go ahead !!!
Deflection
Now try answering what i actually asked i know for a fact your ashamed to list the powers Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Commission but go ahead try it eh lmao "
Imagine you saying deflection lol
priceless !!!!
My answer was if you care to read above
Not everyone wanted more powers so I don't give a fuck what Labour asked for ie not !!!!! |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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"You lot that ashamed of Labour that you cannot say what Labour ''proposed'' in powers in the Smith Commisson ?
Name each one i can tell you its a very short list from the so called party of devolution
You are making the mistake of thinking everyone wanted more power at holyrood.
As I stated before swinny ran away from the difficult areas like pensions !!!
In 2014 the snp were gonna set up a new country in months.
How are they doing so far on the benifits agency that is only gonna mirror the UK one.
How much is the new benifits agency gonna cost the Scottish taxpayer ???
Ooopps we don't know as no one in the snp can count.
How is the new utilities company coming along ???
After spending three hundred thousand quid of tax payers money on consultants it is recomended not to go ahead !!!
Deflection
Now try answering what i actually asked i know for a fact your ashamed to list the powers Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Commission but go ahead try it eh lmao
Imagine you saying deflection lol
priceless !!!!
My answer was if you care to read above
Not everyone wanted more powers so I don't give a fuck what Labour asked for ie not !!!!!"
Your not answering my question so tell me why you think i should answer you ?
You are ashamed of Labour i would be too if i were you |
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"You lot that ashamed of Labour that you cannot say what Labour ''proposed'' in powers in the Smith Commisson ?
Name each one i can tell you its a very short list from the so called party of devolution
You are making the mistake of thinking everyone wanted more power at holyrood.
As I stated before swinny ran away from the difficult areas like pensions !!!
In 2014 the snp were gonna set up a new country in months.
How are they doing so far on the benifits agency that is only gonna mirror the UK one.
How much is the new benifits agency gonna cost the Scottish taxpayer ???
Ooopps we don't know as no one in the snp can count.
How is the new utilities company coming along ???
After spending three hundred thousand quid of tax payers money on consultants it is recomended not to go ahead !!!
Deflection
Now try answering what i actually asked i know for a fact your ashamed to list the powers Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Commission but go ahead try it eh lmao
Imagine you saying deflection lol
priceless !!!!
My answer was if you care to read above
Not everyone wanted more powers so I don't give a fuck what Labour asked for ie not !!!!!
Your not answering my question so tell me why you think i should answer you ?
You are ashamed of Labour i would be too if i were you"
I have always been proud to support Labour !!!
And I have no idea what question you are asking ??? |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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Greenoakmale the question i am asking is .....
What powers in the Smith Commission were Labour " proposing" to be devolved to Scotland name each one ?
Now if your proud of Labour then go on dont shy away from answering and naming each power Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Comission
I know for a fact its a very very short list then would rather the powers be kept in the hands of the Tories in Westminster than give Scotland real devolved power
But hey you enjoy the Scottish Labour branch not getting anywhere near government in Scotland
I bet you wont answer and go on with your bullshit not everyone wanted these powers you know fine well i am not asking that you will find any piss way of getting out of answering too ashamed Of Labour not want powers devolved and wanting them kept in Westminster |
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"Greenoakmale the question i am asking is .....
What powers in the Smith Commission were Labour " proposing" to be devolved to Scotland name each one ?
Now if your proud of Labour then go on dont shy away from answering and naming each power Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Comission
I know for a fact its a very very short list then would rather the powers be kept in the hands of the Tories in Westminster than give Scotland real devolved power
But hey you enjoy the Scottish Labour branch not getting anywhere near government in Scotland
I bet you wont answer and go on with your bullshit not everyone wanted these powers you know fine well i am not asking that you will find any piss way of getting out of answering too ashamed Of Labour not want powers devolved and wanting them kept in Westminster "
I do believe other posters have put links to the Smith commision so their is the information! !!
Read my answer above !!!! |
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over a year ago
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"Greenoakmale the question i am asking is .....
What powers in the Smith Commission were Labour " proposing" to be devolved to Scotland name each one ?
Now if your proud of Labour then go on dont shy away from answering and naming each power Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Comission
I know for a fact its a very very short list then would rather the powers be kept in the hands of the Tories in Westminster than give Scotland real devolved power
But hey you enjoy the Scottish Labour branch not getting anywhere near government in Scotland
I bet you wont answer and go on with your bullshit not everyone wanted these powers you know fine well i am not asking that you will find any piss way of getting out of answering too ashamed Of Labour not want powers devolved and wanting them kept in Westminster
I do believe other posters have put links to the Smith commision so their is the information! !!
Read my answer above !!!!"
Shat out of answers you need help from others ? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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I do believe other posters have put links to the Smith commision so their is the information! !!
Read my answer above !!!!"
Greenoak....
since "someone" here is rubbishing the smith commision that lead to extra powers... maybe you should ask if "someone" is disappointed in deputy first minister john sweeney, since he was on the 10 person committee....
i think that would be a fair question to ask? |
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"Greenoakmale the question i am asking is .....
What powers in the Smith Commission were Labour " proposing" to be devolved to Scotland name each one ?
Now if your proud of Labour then go on dont shy away from answering and naming each power Labour wanted devolved in the Smith Comission
I know for a fact its a very very short list then would rather the powers be kept in the hands of the Tories in Westminster than give Scotland real devolved power
But hey you enjoy the Scottish Labour branch not getting anywhere near government in Scotland
I bet you wont answer and go on with your bullshit not everyone wanted these powers you know fine well i am not asking that you will find any piss way of getting out of answering too ashamed Of Labour not want powers devolved and wanting them kept in Westminster
I do believe other posters have put links to the Smith commision so their is the information! !!
Read my answer above !!!!
Shat out of answers you need help from others ? "
No my answer if you could concentrate for two seconds is personally I did not believe in more powers for Scotland so why would I be intersted in who proposed what ????
Do you want me to type this for the fourth time ???? |
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"again... changing the subject... stick to the topic to which YOU changed it to....
so again.... does is matter who give the answer to a question as long as someone gives the correct answer??????
no one is denying the link isn't correct!!!!"
stop your bullying _abio |
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I do believe other posters have put links to the Smith commision so their is the information! !!
Read my answer above !!!!
Greenoak....
since "someone" here is rubbishing the smith commision that lead to extra powers... maybe you should ask if "someone" is disappointed in deputy first minister john sweeney, since he was on the 10 person committee....
i think that would be a fair question to ask? "
Fabio thank you for the link.
Also as well as swinny the mighty colousus of politics Linda Fabiani was there.
From what came out of the meeting was swinny blushed every time f abiani opened her mouth.
It was likened to taking your wife to your bosses house and she gets really pissed in front of all your work mates and boss
As I stated before swinny ran away from the pension issue faster than Usan Bolt !!!! |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Big Labour pow-wow in Scotland this week, to consider changing stance on a 2nd referendum.
Plenty speculation they'll:
a) sever ties with Labour in England
b) change policy to support a federal UK
c) back a second referendum with a federal UK as one of the options.
They need to do something to avoid becoming irrelevant. |
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"They need to do something to avoid becoming irrelevant."
They're already irrelevant in Scotland. The only way they'll get anywhere near power in England again, is to become more right-wing/Tory.
Eventually, having no other way back into power in the UK, they will do that; which will kill them off entirely, up here.
If you're Scots, why vote Tory-lite if you want the real thing? If you don't want Tory politics of any kind, that narrows it down a lot.
What happened in the North of England and the Midlands at the last GE is the same thing that happened up here almost a decade ago; voters got fed up with the Labour Party ignoring them.
Labour learned fuck all when Scotland rejected them; partly because they didn't care. How we vote up here is irrelevant, in the FPTP system, in determining the outcome of a UK GE - as the last three have amply demonstrated.
I want Scotland to be independent; but, right now, the best chance of that happening is to bet Dominic Cummings that he can't make it happen. |
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"ask sean connery ....never paid tax in uk in his life but still wants indy scotland....wanker x"
The same man that appears in ads on Japanese tv plugging Japanese whiskey |
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