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"Can you not give the trolling a rest for even a single day? "What so everyone else is allowed to start threads just not me ? Why are you trying single me out ? | |||
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"Can you not give the trolling a rest for even a single day?
What so everyone else is allowed to start threads just not me ?
Why are you trying single me out ?
"Because it's the same Anti-English xenophobia with every single thread you post. | |||
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"Can you not give the trolling a rest for even a single day?
What so everyone else is allowed to start threads just not me ?
Why are you trying single me out ?
Because it's the same Anti-English xenophobia with every single thread you post. "WTF Show me where you believe i am being Anti English in this thread ? I am simply asking a question and show how different Scotland and England really is Plus i believe England should be an independent country hiw is that being anti English ? | |||
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"Can you not give the trolling a rest for even a single day?
What so everyone else is allowed to start threads just not me ?
Why are you trying single me out ?
Because it's the same Anti-English xenophobia with every single thread you post.
WTF
Show me where you believe i am being Anti English in this thread ?
I am simply asking a question and show how different Scotland and England really is
Plus i believe England should be an independent country hiw is that being anti English ?
"It's anti English because you don't like working with the the English, you don't think the English have anything to contribute, you don't think the English should hold anti political power in the UK. It xenophobic, it's obvious, and it's disgusting. | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. " Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ?" You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! " Wow so you do not think Scottish people pay tax ? Yup CLCC you are very anti Scottish | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! Wow so you do not think Scottish people pay tax ? Yup CLCC you are very anti Scottish " You know very well that Scotland spends more than it brings in, and that the Barnet Formula means that Scotland gets more funding than England. | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! Wow so you do not think Scottish people pay tax ? Yup CLCC you are very anti Scottish You know very well that Scotland spends more than it brings in, and that the Barnet Formula means that Scotland gets more funding than England." Nooe wrong Scotland pays its fair share you lot dont even believe that any money raised theough tax and revenue should stay in Scotland correct ? Oh and if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK ? Your logic is fucked lol | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! Wow so you do not think Scottish people pay tax ? Yup CLCC you are very anti Scottish You know very well that Scotland spends more than it brings in, and that the Barnet Formula means that Scotland gets more funding than England. Nooe wrong Scotland pays its fair share you lot dont even believe that any money raised theough tax and revenue should stay in Scotland correct ? Oh and if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK ? Your logic is fucked lol" No, it doesn't, it spends more than it earns, and the Barnett Formula means that more money is spent in Scotland than in England. | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! Wow so you do not think Scottish people pay tax ? Yup CLCC you are very anti Scottish You know very well that Scotland spends more than it brings in, and that the Barnet Formula means that Scotland gets more funding than England. Nooe wrong Scotland pays its fair share you lot dont even believe that any money raised theough tax and revenue should stay in Scotland correct ? Oh and if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK ? Your logic is fucked lol No, it doesn't, it spends more than it earns, and the Barnett Formula means that more money is spent in Scotland than in England. " Ok thats your opinion i beg to differ So if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK? | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! Wow so you do not think Scottish people pay tax ? Yup CLCC you are very anti Scottish You know very well that Scotland spends more than it brings in, and that the Barnet Formula means that Scotland gets more funding than England. Nooe wrong Scotland pays its fair share you lot dont even believe that any money raised theough tax and revenue should stay in Scotland correct ? Oh and if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK ? Your logic is fucked lol No, it doesn't, it spends more than it earns, and the Barnett Formula means that more money is spent in Scotland than in England. Ok thats your opinion i beg to differ So if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK?" It's not an opinion, it's a fact. One that you find it very hard to accept. | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! Wow so you do not think Scottish people pay tax ? Yup CLCC you are very anti Scottish You know very well that Scotland spends more than it brings in, and that the Barnet Formula means that Scotland gets more funding than England. Nooe wrong Scotland pays its fair share you lot dont even believe that any money raised theough tax and revenue should stay in Scotland correct ? Oh and if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK ? Your logic is fucked lol No, it doesn't, it spends more than it earns, and the Barnett Formula means that more money is spent in Scotland than in England. Ok thats your opinion i beg to differ So if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK? It's not an opinion, it's a fact. One that you find it very hard to accept." Thats your opinion i beg to differ lol If yiu believe that why do you want Scotland to stay in the UK then ? | |||
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"As the OP knows, there isn't such a thing as "free prescriptions". There is always a cost somewhere. It's how you evaluate that cost and pass it on. Oh my again its free at the point of use in Scotland Is not in England do you not think it should be ? Can you see the big difference with Scotland and England ? You mean the Barnett Formula? How do you think Scotland affords it? With England's money! Wow so you do not think Scottish people pay tax ? Yup CLCC you are very anti Scottish You know very well that Scotland spends more than it brings in, and that the Barnet Formula means that Scotland gets more funding than England. Nooe wrong Scotland pays its fair share you lot dont even believe that any money raised theough tax and revenue should stay in Scotland correct ? Oh and if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK ? Your logic is fucked lol No, it doesn't, it spends more than it earns, and the Barnett Formula means that more money is spent in Scotland than in England. Ok thats your opinion i beg to differ So if you really do believe that CLCC that England get treated unfairly then why do you wanna keep Scotland in the UK? It's not an opinion, it's a fact. One that you find it very hard to accept." Exactly, kinky doesn't care about facts, just feelings. "Objectivity as found through rational thought, is a Western and masculine concept..." (race, class and gender, Anderson, 1992. p.14) | |||
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"Kinky, if an independent Scotland under the SNP could not afford free prescriptions would you still demand it?" The SNP policy is for to keep free prescriptions do you have any evidence to say that would change in an independent Scotland under a SNP government ? The point it moot | |||
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"CLCC The biggest problem you have that claim we in Scotland are leeching off Englands money Then why is it you want Scotland in the UK when if what you claim is true England could save a shit ton on money and spent it on England only ?" Because I believe in the richer helping the poorer. And because the raison d'etre of the nation state is territorial integrity. | |||
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"There will go CLCC showing " their" true colours So you think England is rich and Scotland is poor that we in Scotland need English rich money for us poor fuckers in Scotland " The banking sector in the square mile of London bankrolls the rest of the UK. Didn't you know that? | |||
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"There will go CLCC showing " their" true colours So you think England is rich and Scotland is poor that we in Scotland need English rich money for us poor fuckers in Scotland The banking sector in the square mile of London bankrolls the rest of the UK. Didn't you know that? " Thata not what i asked try again | |||
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"There will go CLCC showing " their" true colours So you think England is rich and Scotland is poor that we in Scotland need English rich money for us poor fuckers in Scotland The banking sector in the square mile of London bankrolls the rest of the UK. Didn't you know that? Thata not what i asked try again " I'll take that as a "No" then. | |||
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"There will go CLCC showing " their" true colours So you think England is rich and Scotland is poor that we in Scotland need English rich money for us poor fuckers in Scotland The banking sector in the square mile of London bankrolls the rest of the UK. Didn't you know that? Thata not what i asked try again I'll take that as a "No" then. " Thibk what you want i do not care I know know your true colours Prove your anti Scottish | |||
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"There will go CLCC showing " their" true colours So you think England is rich and Scotland is poor that we in Scotland need English rich money for us poor fuckers in Scotland The banking sector in the square mile of London bankrolls the rest of the UK. Didn't you know that? Thata not what i asked try again I'll take that as a "No" then. Thibk what you want i do not care I know know your true colours Prove your anti Scottish " It's not any Scottish, it's the realities of life. Look, let's look at England only. Do you think that Norfolk brings in as much to the Exchequer as the city of London? | |||
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"Kinky, if an independent Scotland under the SNP could not afford free prescriptions would you still demand it? The SNP policy is for to keep free prescriptions do you have any evidence to say that would change in an independent Scotland under a SNP government ? The point it moot " I don't have or need any evidence because it was a hypothetical question. I am interested to hear your response. Can you answer the question on that basis? | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research." Is that a request or an order ? | |||
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"Kinky, if an independent Scotland under the SNP could not afford free prescriptions would you still demand it? The SNP policy is for to keep free prescriptions do you have any evidence to say that would change in an independent Scotland under a SNP government ? The point it moot I don't have or need any evidence because it was a hypothetical question. I am interested to hear your response. Can you answer the question on that basis?" Then no thanks | |||
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"Kinky, if an independent Scotland under the SNP could not afford free prescriptions would you still demand it? The SNP policy is for to keep free prescriptions do you have any evidence to say that would change in an independent Scotland under a SNP government ? The point it moot I don't have or need any evidence because it was a hypothetical question. I am interested to hear your response. Can you answer the question on that basis? Then no thanks " Why not? A simple yes/no would suffice. | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ?" One side provides evidence, the other refuses to. If this was a court, who would you believe? | |||
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"Kinky, if an independent Scotland under the SNP could not afford free prescriptions would you still demand it? The SNP policy is for to keep free prescriptions do you have any evidence to say that would change in an independent Scotland under a SNP government ? The point it moot I don't have or need any evidence because it was a hypothetical question. I am interested to hear your response. Can you answer the question on that basis? Then no thanks Why not? A simple yes/no would suffice." Is that a request or an order ? You said yourself you don't have any evidence because it was a hypothetical question | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ? One side provides evidence, the other refuses to. If this was a court, who would you believe?" Lmao what rule on fab says i have to ? | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ?" Same old, same old. You have absolutely no credibility at all. | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ? One side provides evidence, the other refuses to. If this was a court, who would you believe? Lmao what rule on fab says i have to ? " You don't have to, but you undermine your arguement if you don't. It shows you haven't done your research. You can't even answer simple, basic questions like where contributes more tax, Norfolk or London. It shows that you are well out of your depth. | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ? One side provides evidence, the other refuses to. If this was a court, who would you believe? Lmao what rule on fab says i have to ? You don't have to, but you undermine your arguement if you don't. It shows you haven't done your research. You can't even answer simple, basic questions like where contributes more tax, Norfolk or London. It shows that you are well out of your depth. " Correct i dont have too your getting there lol Oh right so you have never met me but seem to know better than me what i have and havent researched lmao | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ? One side provides evidence, the other refuses to. If this was a court, who would you believe? Lmao what rule on fab says i have to ? You don't have to, but you undermine your arguement if you don't. It shows you haven't done your research. You can't even answer simple, basic questions like where contributes more tax, Norfolk or London. It shows that you are well out of your depth. Correct i dont have too your getting there lol Oh right so you have never met me but seem to know better than me what i have and havent researched lmao " Well based on your inability to produce a coherently argument on here, and given your inability to support your assertions with any evidence, it would appear that either your rhetoric or your research, or both, are sorely lacking. | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ? One side provides evidence, the other refuses to. If this was a court, who would you believe? Lmao what rule on fab says i have to ? You don't have to, but you undermine your arguement if you don't. It shows you haven't done your research. You can't even answer simple, basic questions like where contributes more tax, Norfolk or London. It shows that you are well out of your depth. Correct i dont have too your getting there lol Oh right so you have never met me but seem to know better than me what i have and havent researched lmao Well based on your inability to produce a coherently argument on here, and given your inability to support your assertions with any evidence, it would appear that either your rhetoric or your research, or both, are sorely lacking. " You said I don't have to lol Again you do not know me to judge | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ? One side provides evidence, the other refuses to. If this was a court, who would you believe? Lmao what rule on fab says i have to ? You don't have to, but you undermine your arguement if you don't. It shows you haven't done your research. You can't even answer simple, basic questions like where contributes more tax, Norfolk or London. It shows that you are well out of your depth. Correct i dont have too your getting there lol Oh right so you have never met me but seem to know better than me what i have and havent researched lmao Well based on your inability to produce a coherently argument on here, and given your inability to support your assertions with any evidence, it would appear that either your rhetoric or your research, or both, are sorely lacking. You said I don't have to lol Again you do not know me to judge " I'm not judging you, I'm judging your arguement that you cannot provide any evidence for. | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Is that a request or an order ? One side provides evidence, the other refuses to. If this was a court, who would you believe? Lmao what rule on fab says i have to ? You don't have to, but you undermine your arguement if you don't. It shows you haven't done your research. You can't even answer simple, basic questions like where contributes more tax, Norfolk or London. It shows that you are well out of your depth. Correct i dont have too your getting there lol Oh right so you have never met me but seem to know better than me what i have and havent researched lmao Well based on your inability to produce a coherently argument on here, and given your inability to support your assertions with any evidence, it would appear that either your rhetoric or your research, or both, are sorely lacking. You said I don't have to lol Again you do not know me to judge I'm not judging you, I'm judging your arguement that you cannot provide any evidence for." You said i didnt have too lol | |||
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"Kinky, if an independent Scotland under the SNP could not afford free prescriptions would you still demand it? The SNP policy is for to keep free prescriptions do you have any evidence to say that would change in an independent Scotland under a SNP government ? The point it moot I don't have or need any evidence because it was a hypothetical question. I am interested to hear your response. Can you answer the question on that basis? Then no thanks Why not? A simple yes/no would suffice. Is that a request or an order ? You said yourself you don't have any evidence because it was a hypothetical question " Why would it be an order? I was asking you a simple hypothetical question. I'm puzzled why you can't answer it as no research is needed. | |||
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"Kinky, if an independent Scotland under the SNP could not afford free prescriptions would you still demand it? The SNP policy is for to keep free prescriptions do you have any evidence to say that would change in an independent Scotland under a SNP government ? The point it moot I don't have or need any evidence because it was a hypothetical question. I am interested to hear your response. Can you answer the question on that basis? Then no thanks Why not? A simple yes/no would suffice. Is that a request or an order ? You said yourself you don't have any evidence because it was a hypothetical question Why would it be an order? I was asking you a simple hypothetical question. I'm puzzled why you can't answer it as no research is needed." So its a request ok when i will say no thanks as you said you don't have any evidence because it was a hypothetical question Its a pointless question as its quite clearly SNP policy | |||
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"Kinky, if an independent Scotland under the SNP could not afford free prescriptions would you still demand it? The SNP policy is for to keep free prescriptions do you have any evidence to say that would change in an independent Scotland under a SNP government ? The point it moot I don't have or need any evidence because it was a hypothetical question. I am interested to hear your response. Can you answer the question on that basis? Then no thanks Why not? A simple yes/no would suffice. Is that a request or an order ? You said yourself you don't have any evidence because it was a hypothetical question Why would it be an order? I was asking you a simple hypothetical question. I'm puzzled why you can't answer it as no research is needed. So its a request ok when i will say no thanks as you said you don't have any evidence because it was a hypothetical question Its a pointless question as its quite clearly SNP policy " If the SNP were to change policy would you be happy with that? | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are " Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things  | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things "So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit? I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know. | |||
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"It's not just what we have to accept, it's what we have to pay for. That is why Scotland is bankrupt." Lol wow learning about what a minority in England really think about Scotland Like i said to those thatvwill defend the UKunion have a look above and you will see why so manybin Scotland do not want to be part of the UK | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things
So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things
So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know."No i have answered it you just aint listening No more Trident to pay for ALL tax abd revenue stays in Scotland and doesnt go anywhere near Westminster No money paying PFIs no more paying for the royals or Buckingham shit hole or Westminster no more vanity projects outside of Scotland The Total worth of UK assets is £8.8 trillion we in Scotland own 8.3% guess what defict gone simple No wonder you wanna keep that quiet wouldnt wana lose ALL Scotland natural resoures now lmao | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things
So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know.
No i have answered it you just aint listening
No more Trident to pay for ALL tax abd revenue stays in Scotland and doesnt go anywhere near Westminster
No money paying PFIs no more paying for the royals or Buckingham shit hole or Westminster no more vanity projects outside of Scotland
The Total worth of UK assets is £8.8 trillion we in Scotland own 8.3% guess what defict gone simple
No wonder you wanna keep that quiet wouldnt wana lose ALL Scotland natural resoures now lmao "And your share of the National Debt? | |||
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"It couldn't. It would be bankrupt." thing is Andy; if you consider Scotland bankrupt, how come we have a better life up here than you do in England? better Schools, Better NHS Better Housing Better Policing oh and yes a much lower murder rate  (just incase you haven't read todays papers)
then it comes to outdoor living,
scenery
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I better stop there is far to much on offer up in rainy Scotland, im painting to much a pretty picture
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So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know.
and exactly how much deficit does England have"That wasn't the question. How would an Independent Scotland reduce its fiscal deficit? Would it raise taxes or cut services? Or both? | |||
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So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know.
and exactly how much deficit does England have
That wasn't the question.
How would an Independent Scotland reduce its fiscal deficit?
Would it raise taxes or cut services? Or both?"what do you mean that wasn't the question, open your eyes, I just asked it, but if you want to avoid, run and hide. | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things
So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know.
No i have answered it you just aint listening
No more Trident to pay for ALL tax abd revenue stays in Scotland and doesnt go anywhere near Westminster
No money paying PFIs no more paying for the royals or Buckingham shit hole or Westminster no more vanity projects outside of Scotland
The Total worth of UK assets is £8.8 trillion we in Scotland own 8.3% guess what defict gone simple
No wonder you wanna keep that quiet wouldnt wana lose ALL Scotland natural resoures now lmao
And your share of the National Debt?"Whistle for it lol Its the UK treasurys problem not Scotlands money aint devolved | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things
So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know.
No i have answered it you just aint listening
No more Trident to pay for ALL tax abd revenue stays in Scotland and doesnt go anywhere near Westminster
No money paying PFIs no more paying for the royals or Buckingham shit hole or Westminster no more vanity projects outside of Scotland
The Total worth of UK assets is £8.8 trillion we in Scotland own 8.3% guess what defict gone simple
No wonder you wanna keep that quiet wouldnt wana lose ALL Scotland natural resoures now lmao
And your share of the National Debt?
Whistle for it lol
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things
So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know.
and exactly how much deficit does England have
That wasn't the question.
How would an Independent Scotland reduce its fiscal deficit?
Would it raise taxes or cut services? Or both?
what do you mean that wasn't the question, open your eyes, I just asked it, but if you want to avoid, run and hide."Do you think it's just me that'll ask that question when and if the next referendum comes up? | |||
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"Oh and btw CLCC tou love your wee UK union but then claim we Scottish people leech off of Englands money ? Why di you wanna keep Scotland in the UK then ?" Because the majority of peoplein Scotland voted to stay. | |||
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"And how much less deficit would be have if we didn't have to keep giving money to Scotland to waste on things that they cannot afford? And bailing out their 2 bankrupt banks. Andy, who were the directors of RBS, who actually owned RBS "Since when do directors own a plc? And since when was Fred Goodwin not born in Paisley and since when was he not Scottish? And why wasn't the bank bailed out by the country in which its registered office is situated? | |||
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"Can people not attack the poster when replying. Questioning / challenging a post should be done without attacking. Can people also remember that others don't have to agree with you , they can have their own view. Finally, if you don't like a subject, stay off the thread rather than complain about it" | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are Scottish government looks after its citizens much better than Westminster looks after English, its a problem the English just have to up with, seems they just accept many things
So how would an Independent Scotland reduce its deficit?
I kept asking Kinky the same question but he didn't know.
No i have answered it you just aint listening
No more Trident to pay for ALL tax abd revenue stays in Scotland and doesnt go anywhere near Westminster
No money paying PFIs no more paying for the royals or Buckingham shit hole or Westminster no more vanity projects outside of Scotland
The Total worth of UK assets is £8.8 trillion we in Scotland own 8.3% guess what defict gone simple
No wonder you wanna keep that quiet wouldnt wana lose ALL Scotland natural resoures now lmao
And your share of the National Debt?
Whistle for it lol
Its the UK treasurys problem not Scotlands money aint devolved
You really haven't got a clue have you?"In your opinion lol | |||
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"Oh and btw CLCC tou love your wee UK union but then claim we Scottish people leech off of Englands money ? Why di you wanna keep Scotland in the UK then ? Because the majority of peoplein Scotland voted to stay." Things can change in a democracy and people should never ever be forced to keep their no vote to independence just because some maybe afraid to lose the UK union The UK shouldnt go promising what they cant deliver as people have a eight to question it and if its worth staying in a union | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research." Have you ever looked at the reasons for barnet ??? The highlands and islands are very expensive to live in with such a dispersed population. I will whisper this so kinky does not hear it. English people live all over Scotland and pay there taxes just like me. So by cutting funding it is UK citizens that will suffer. | |||
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"The Highlands and Islands are dirt cheap to live in. You can buy a castle and a few hundred acres, for less than a dingy basement bedsit in a crap part of London!" Try buying a gallon of petrol !!! Try getting something delivered !!!! | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Have you ever looked at the reasons for barnet ??? The highlands and islands are very expensive to live in with such a dispersed population. I will whisper this so kinky does not hear it. English people live all over Scotland and pay there taxes just like me. So by cutting funding it is UK citizens that will suffer." Yes i did know that Did you know there is English born living in Scotland that are pro indy ? | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Have you ever looked at the reasons for barnet ??? The highlands and islands are very expensive to live in with such a dispersed population. I will whisper this so kinky does not hear it. English people live all over Scotland and pay there taxes just like me. So by cutting funding it is UK citizens that will suffer. Yes i did know that Did you know there is English born living in Scotland that are pro indy ? " And ???? | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Have you ever looked at the reasons for barnet ??? The highlands and islands are very expensive to live in with such a dispersed population. I will whisper this so kinky does not hear it. English people live all over Scotland and pay there taxes just like me. So by cutting funding it is UK citizens that will suffer. Yes i did know that Did you know there is English born living in Scotland that are pro indy ? And ????" And the myth is that pro indy supporters are anti English Nope wrong just Anti Westminster and pro self determination lol | |||
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"The average spend per head for Scotland last year was £10651. In England, it was £8898. I've supplied you these figures before. Now maybe you can give us the tax take figures per head for the two regions. Back up your absurd claims with some of your research. Have you ever looked at the reasons for barnet ??? The highlands and islands are very expensive to live in with such a dispersed population. I will whisper this so kinky does not hear it. English people live all over Scotland and pay there taxes just like me. So by cutting funding it is UK citizens that will suffer. Yes i did know that Did you know there is English born living in Scotland that are pro indy ? And ???? And the myth is that pro indy supporters are anti English Nope wrong just Anti Westminster and pro self determination lol " Lol That is like me saying if you voted to stay in the UK your are anti Scottish. No relevance at all. | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are " It's not down to just one party, all political parties have in the past refused to give free prescriptions. | |||
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"The Highlands and Islands are dirt cheap to live in. You can buy a castle and a few hundred acres, for less than a dingy basement bedsit in a crap part of London!" I wouldn't say a castle, but a 5 or 6 bedroom, 5 apartment, 4 bathroom property with 3 acres can be snatched up for just over £500,000 | |||
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"Because "free" prescriptions are unaffordable and promote waste." Well lucky for you England believe in charging you for your prescription | |||
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"Because "free" prescriptions are unaffordable and promote waste."
I don't believe in such a high cost though.
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"Because "free" prescriptions are unaffordable and promote waste.
I don't believe in such a high cost though.
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"Because "free" prescriptions are unaffordable and promote waste.
I don't believe in such a high cost though.
Do you know how much the actual drugs cost! Far more than £8.80!"The savings should come from the wastage drooping. Not all drugs are over 8.8 pounds but most doctors will advise if it is cheaper over the counter. | |||
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"If you can afford to pay then you should pay SNP have this one wrong in Scotland" So you believe no one in Scotland pays tax ? | |||
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"If you can afford to pay then you should pay SNP have this one wrong in Scotland So you believe no one in Scotland pays tax ? " Do you pay tax? | |||
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"If you can afford to pay then you should pay SNP have this one wrong in Scotland So you believe no one in Scotland pays tax ? Do you pay tax? " haha, I got most my tax refunded as I paid huge amounts into AVC's do you pay tax Andy lol | |||
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"If you can afford to pay then you should pay SNP have this one wrong in Scotland So you believe no one in Scotland pays tax ? Do you pay tax? " God lot of paranoid people wanna know private stuff about people on fab lol creepy | |||
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"Lol yes I work and pay tax don't see what that has to do with it the money wasted by the SNP this could be better spent elsewhere " Elsewhere like ? You seem to have a problem with SNP so who do you think would do better in Scotland ? Remember those that arent in government in Scotland are for a reason lol | |||
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"When did I say no-one in Scotland pays tax " So those that pay tax have rights to free prescriptions as anyone ? Just a wee example and yes i know this is not in Scotland but if it gets you to think Do you believe Katie Price shouldnt get benefits for Harvey ? She pays tax she has the right to claim benefits no matter who well off she is ? | |||
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"If you can afford to pay then you should pay SNP have this one wrong in Scotland So you believe no one in Scotland pays tax ? Do you pay tax? God lot of paranoid people wanna know private stuff about people on fab lol creepy " Translation - No, you are on Benefits. | |||
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"If you can afford to pay then you should pay SNP have this one wrong in Scotland So you believe no one in Scotland pays tax ? Do you pay tax? God lot of paranoid people wanna know private stuff about people on fab lol creepy Translation - No, you are on Benefits. " Lol never met me but think you know me better than i do lmao | |||
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"Yes I believe she shouldn't get them she has more than enough money to pay for him herself " She pays tax though and you really saying paying that pay tax have no right to use what they are helping pay for ? The UK is fucked with the mad way if thinking What happened to being a human being ? | |||
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"It's like cold weather payments should be means tested those that need help get it not people who can more than afford to pay " Why? My parents were careful with money and worked hard, and have money. They are just as old, and feel the cold as much as someone who has been lazy all their life, and has wasted money, so that they have none. Why should that scumbag get the payments and my parents not receive them? | |||
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"It's like cold weather payments should be means tested those that need help get it not people who can more than afford to pay Why? My parents were careful with money and worked hard, and have money. They are just as old, and feel the cold as much as someone who has been lazy all their life, and has wasted money, so that they have none. Why should that scumbag get the payments and my parents not receive them?" Because they can afford to pay that's why plus they must be scumbags raising someone like you lol | |||
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"So she pays tax big deal so do millions of others the system should be used to help the poor and those in need not millionaires " Lol right so you accept Katie Price pays tax so why shouldnt she be entited to claim benefits for her child ? | |||
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"It's like cold weather payments should be means tested those that need help get it not people who can more than afford to pay Why? My parents were careful with money and worked hard, and have money. They are just as old, and feel the cold as much as someone who has been lazy all their life, and has wasted money, so that they have none. Why should that scumbag get the payments and my parents not receive them? Because they can afford to pay that's why plus they must be scumbags raising someone like you lol " Yes, and those of us who can pay, always have to pay for the scumbags, yet we get no thanks. | |||
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"So what that's how the system works and not everyone is a scumbag as you put it " I appreciate that, but why should we have to pay for those who are? | |||
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"So she pays tax big deal so do millions of others the system should be used to help the poor and those in need not millionaires Lol right so you accept Katie Price pays tax so why shouldnt she be entited to claim benefits for her child ? " If you read what I posted you would see why I think that, All you ever do on here kinky is look for an argument | |||
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"That's just how it works " Not in Scotland though must sting eh that prescriptions are free for all at the point of use I do wonder why the other parties / branch offices aint in government in Scotland | |||
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"That's just how it works Not in Scotland though must sting eh that prescriptions are free for all at the point of use I do wonder why the other parties / branch offices aint in government in Scotland" Why would it sting its just another stupid thing the SNP have brought in like the offensive behaviour at football act or the named person act And the reason another party isn't in government is that they never got enough votes | |||
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"That's just how it works Not in Scotland though must sting eh that prescriptions are free for all at the point of use I do wonder why the other parties / branch offices aint in government in Scotland Why would it sting its just another stupid thing the SNP have brought in like the offensive behaviour at football act or the named person act And the reason another party isn't in government is that they never got enough votes " Why is that they cant get the votes to be elected into goverment in Scotland ? Lol | |||
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"That's just how it works Not in Scotland though must sting eh that prescriptions are free for all at the point of use I do wonder why the other parties / branch offices aint in government in Scotland Why would it sting its just another stupid thing the SNP have brought in like the offensive behaviour at football act or the named person act And the reason another party isn't in government is that they never got enough votes Why is that they cant get the votes to be elected into goverment in Scotland ? Lol" Who cares I voted SNP and always have | |||
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"Free prescriptions will be one of the 1st things the people of Scotland will probably lose if they go independent." Any evidence of that ? Or just your opinion only ? | |||
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"Free prescriptions will be one of the 1st things the people of Scotland will probably lose if they go independent. Any evidence of that ? Or just your opinion only ? " Yes, there is compelling evidence that supports my opinion that free prescriptions will be scrapped quickly if independence is gained. | |||
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"Free prescriptions will be one of the 1st things the people of Scotland will probably lose if they go independent. Any evidence of that ? Or just your opinion only ? Yes, there is compelling evidence that supports my opinion that free prescriptions will be scrapped quickly if independence is gained." In your opinion only lol Never seen so many people outside of Scotland love tellin us how we should run things in an independent Scotland like you think you know whats best for us lol | |||
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"Free prescriptions will be one of the 1st things the people of Scotland will probably lose if they go independent. Any evidence of that ? Or just your opinion only ? Yes, there is compelling evidence that supports my opinion that free prescriptions will be scrapped quickly if independence is gained. In your opinion only lol Never seen so many people outside of Scotland love tellin us how we should run things in an independent Scotland like you think you know whats best for us lol " Nothing I posted was "telling you how to run things" just pointing out there's factual evidence that supports my opinion that free prescriptions will be scrapped in the event of Scottish independence
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"Pish Wanna know how ? Do you know who will be in government in an independent Scotland do you know what policies they will have ? SNP policy is for free prescriptions any evidence to that says they will scrap it in an independent Scotland? Or you just making up bullshit again ? " I don't act like you so no bullshit here, just "fact" based opinion. | |||
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"Pish Wanna know how ? Do you know who will be in government in an independent Scotland do you know what policies they will have ? SNP policy is for free prescriptions any evidence to that says they will scrap it in an independent Scotland? Or you just making up bullshit again ? " How will they afford it? | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are " We pay for it,if you leave us you will not have the money for free prescriptions ha ha ha | |||
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"Pish Wanna know how ? Do you know who will be in government in an independent Scotland do you know what policies they will have ? SNP policy is for free prescriptions any evidence to that says they will scrap it in an independent Scotland? Or you just making up bullshit again ? How will they afford it?" By not sending the shit hole in Westminster /treasury any of Scotland tax and revenue Then again CLCC you believe Scotland is a wee poor country with its hands out asking please sir can i have some more lol | |||
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"How many in England think that prescriptions should be free at the point of use ? I see its now £8.80 thats crazy I know people are going to use the whole but its really free in Scotland i say thats just semantics as no one is saying they provided free by pharma companies its free at the point of use You dont see people walking into a chemist in Scotland for a prescription and having to hand over money for it Maybe and hopefully one day England will follow Scotlands example No one should have to pay £8.80 for what they need but England for some reason trust the Tories Just shows you how different Scotland and England are We pay for it,if you leave us you will not have the money for free prescriptions ha ha ha" Lmao using your pish logic Why is Westminster hell bend in keeping Scotland then ? Your all ready for saying England subsidy Scotland then why keep Scotland in the UK ? You would think if you would wanna save a shit ton of money and for it to be spent on England Oh wait your doing it for Scotlands benefit as we are all wee poor fuckers eh ? Lol | |||
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"Pish Wanna know how ? Do you know who will be in government in an independent Scotland do you know what policies they will have ? SNP policy is for free prescriptions any evidence to that says they will scrap it in an independent Scotland? Or you just making up bullshit again ? How will they afford it? By not sending the shit hole in Westminster /treasury any of Scotland tax and revenue Then again CLCC you believe Scotland is a wee poor country with its hands out asking please sir can i have some more lol" The UK runs a deficit, Scotland spends even more on education and prescriptions, so how would they afford it even if the economy of Scotland was an exact scaled down version of the UK economy (which it wouldn't be) | |||
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"Why is anyone still even arguing with this guy. It will get you nowhere. Ignore his drivel and leave him arguing with himself " I keep telling them no one is forcing them to comment i aint bothered lol But the fact you have to come on to the thread to try and get them to stop is laughable lol They are big boys and girls you know | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire"...." They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! " No i dont i want the UK to break apart See CLCC other people have picked up that you think England is the UK and Scotland Wales and NI have to be bullied into submission | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! " Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! No i dont i want the UK to break apart See CLCC other people have picked up that you think England is the UK and Scotland Wales and NI have to be bullied into submission " All your posts suggest otherwise. | |||
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"Why is anyone still even arguing with this guy. It will get you nowhere. Ignore his drivel and leave him arguing with himself I keep telling them no one is forcing them to comment i aint bothered lol But the fact you have to come on to the thread to try and get them to stop is laughable lol They are big boys and girls you know " Just sick of looking on a forum that should have intelligent discussion and seeing your shit getting airtime. But no worries, I can skip by. I just hope they realise that you and your demented rantings do not represent Scotland. Have fun raising your blood pressure for no reason. Because lets face it. You aren't converting anyone on fab to your cause. | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no?" 100% all 4 countries should be independent and govern themselves and be successful independent countries | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no?" Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? 100% all 4 countries should be independent and govern themselves and be successful independent countries "You just said that you didn't want to break up the UK, now you say you do! That's the quickest U turn I've ever seen! | |||
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"Why is anyone still even arguing with this guy. It will get you nowhere. Ignore his drivel and leave him arguing with himself I keep telling them no one is forcing them to comment i aint bothered lol But the fact you have to come on to the thread to try and get them to stop is laughable lol They are big boys and girls you know Just sick of looking on a forum that should have intelligent discussion and seeing your shit getting airtime. But no worries, I can skip by. I just hope they realise that you and your demented rantings do not represent Scotland. Have fun raising your blood pressure for no reason. Because lets face it. You aren't converting anyone on fab to your cause." I dont claim to be ever converting anyone i dint care to be honest uts a swinging site remember that ? Lol I know outside if fab there is people that have changed their minds im on independence and they are all welcome | |||
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"Why is anyone still even arguing with this guy. It will get you nowhere. Ignore his drivel and leave him arguing with himself I keep telling them no one is forcing them to comment i aint bothered lol But the fact you have to come on to the thread to try and get them to stop is laughable lol They are big boys and girls you know Just sick of looking on a forum that should have intelligent discussion and seeing your shit getting airtime. But no worries, I can skip by. I just hope they realise that you and your demented rantings do not represent Scotland. Have fun raising your blood pressure for no reason. Because lets face it. You aren't converting anyone on fab to your cause. I dont claim to be ever converting anyone i dint care to be honest uts a swinging site remember that ? Lol I know outside if fab there is people that have changed their minds im on independence and they are all welcome " Yeah, fewer and fewer of them want independence! | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? 100% all 4 countries should be independent and govern themselves and be successful independent countries
You just said that you didn't want to break up the UK, now you say you do! That's the quickest U turn I've ever seen!"God i really have you going round the bend lmao The UK aint no country But then again you think England is the UK lol | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? 100% all 4 countries should be independent and govern themselves and be successful independent countries
You just said that you didn't want to break up the UK, now you say you do! That's the quickest U turn I've ever seen!
God i really have you going round the bend lmao
The UK aint no country
But then again you think England is the UK lol
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country?" Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. " | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. " No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? " Its funny but not funny at the same time how sad this shit really is Breaking news CLCC the UK is not England Remember you were the one saying England should get the biggest say on how the UK is run so bullying Scotland and Wales and NI into Submission to live under English rule Sorry but Scotland Wales and NI are not colonies of England | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? Its funny but not funny at the same time how sad this shit really is Breaking news CLCC the UK is not England Remember you were the one saying England should get the biggest say on how the UK is run so bullying Scotland and Wales and NI into Submission to live under English rule Sorry but Scotland Wales and NI are not colonies of England " Where have I ever said that the UK is England?
The UK is the country, this is both historically with a union of several hundred years, and also re-confirmed in a recent referendum.
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? " So a seat at the UN negates centuries of struggle of a particular culture against English oppression? Does Cambridge have its own culture, it's own language, distinct from the rest of England? Do it's people wish for self determination? Are you so devoid of empathy that you cannot recognise the centuries of subjugation, torture and in some cases open warfare directed at these countries by England? Don't you accept that England did its level best to eradicate the native culture and language in Wales, Scotland and Ireland (and Cornwall too)? Since you love cultural imperialism so much, don't you think your true place in politics is on the far right? I hear the BNP are struggling for members.... | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? So a seat at the UN negates centuries of struggle of a particular culture against English oppression? Does Cambridge have its own culture, it's own language, distinct from the rest of England? Do it's people wish for self determination? Are you so devoid of empathy that you cannot recognise the centuries of subjugation, torture and in some cases open warfare directed at these countries by England? Don't you accept that England did its level best to eradicate the native culture and language in Wales, Scotland and Ireland (and Cornwall too)? Since you love cultural imperialism so much, don't you think your true place in politics is on the far right? I hear the BNP are struggling for members...." Offft and ( mic drop) | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? So a seat at the UN negates centuries of struggle of a particular culture against English oppression? Does Cambridge have its own culture, it's own language, distinct from the rest of England? Do it's people wish for self determination? Are you so devoid of empathy that you cannot recognise the centuries of subjugation, torture and in some cases open warfare directed at these countries by England? Don't you accept that England did its level best to eradicate the native culture and language in Wales, Scotland and Ireland (and Cornwall too)? Since you love cultural imperialism so much, don't you think your true place in politics is on the far right? I hear the BNP are struggling for members...." That is the history of every country in the world, hell even before there was even the notion of the nation state! Any language that you think people should be speaking has replaced a language that was previously spoken. I don't see why small minded people want to look back to the past, re-ignite past conflicts, long since forgotten. I prefer looking to the future, where people work together, not create artificial divisions. And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. —?Genesis 11:1–9[10] | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? So a seat at the UN negates centuries of struggle of a particular culture against English oppression? Does Cambridge have its own culture, it's own language, distinct from the rest of England? Do it's people wish for self determination? Are you so devoid of empathy that you cannot recognise the centuries of subjugation, torture and in some cases open warfare directed at these countries by England? Don't you accept that England did its level best to eradicate the native culture and language in Wales, Scotland and Ireland (and Cornwall too)? Since you love cultural imperialism so much, don't you think your true place in politics is on the far right? I hear the BNP are struggling for members.... That is the history of every country in the world, hell even before there was even the notion of the nation state! Any language that you think people should be speaking has replaced a language that was previously spoken. I don't see why small minded people want to look back to the past, re-ignite past conflicts, long since forgotten. I prefer looking to the future, where people work together, not create artificial divisions. " It does make a difference when the language that people were speaking was beaten out of them as children by the English (see: the "Welsh knot" which went on well into the 1960s), and many are still speaking - Wales definitley has monoglot speakers. As much as you'd like the people of Scotland, Ireland and Wales to seccede that their notions of nationhood are merely misty-eyed nostalgia, and they should not "look to the past" but accept that they are English now, and have been conquered, I don't think they will (and nor should they). The very idea that these struggles are "long since forgotten" shows how ignorant you are. Do you think that the people of Eire have "long since forgotten" 1916? People might work together when they have not been continually repressed by the nation next to them. I think this is the problem with you - your arrogance belies both your lack of empathy and knowledge. It is a trait of the far right to have an anti-academic bent and you are no different. | |||
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"LCC you dont wanna work together thats your problem You believe England should get the biggest say on who the UK is run correct ? Thats actively trying to bully Scotland Wales an NI into submission to live under English rule not cool Where as i believe all countries with min the UK should be independent countries that govern themselves and work has equal neighbours for the common good and not to be oppression" I do think we should work together and as is the norm across the democratic world, the size of population determines the size of the voice. This happens in every democratic country in the world, but you don't like it. You think that 1.7m should have as much say as 53m. I say that's not fair, and the constitution agrees with me. So suck it up butter cup. | |||
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"LCC you dont wanna work together thats your problem You believe England should get the biggest say on who the UK is run correct ? Thats actively trying to bully Scotland Wales an NI into submission to live under English rule not cool Where as i believe all countries with min the UK should be independent countries that govern themselves and work has equal neighbours for the common good and not to be oppression I do think we should work together and as is the norm across the democratic world, the size of population determines the size of the voice. This happens in every democratic country in the world, but you don't like it. You think that 1.7m should have as much say as 53m. I say that's not fair, and the constitution agrees with me. So suck it up butter cup. " Yup there is that Nasty side coming out " suck it up buttercup" And you wonder why people want independence ? Proving your anti Scottish anti Welsh and Anti N Irish and pro English and would be happy to bully us into submission into English rule | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? So a seat at the UN negates centuries of struggle of a particular culture against English oppression? Does Cambridge have its own culture, it's own language, distinct from the rest of England? Do it's people wish for self determination? Are you so devoid of empathy that you cannot recognise the centuries of subjugation, torture and in some cases open warfare directed at these countries by England? Don't you accept that England did its level best to eradicate the native culture and language in Wales, Scotland and Ireland (and Cornwall too)? Since you love cultural imperialism so much, don't you think your true place in politics is on the far right? I hear the BNP are struggling for members.... That is the history of every country in the world, hell even before there was even the notion of the nation state! Any language that you think people should be speaking has replaced a language that was previously spoken. I don't see why small minded people want to look back to the past, re-ignite past conflicts, long since forgotten. I prefer looking to the future, where people work together, not create artificial divisions. It does make a difference when the language that people were speaking was beaten out of them as children by the English (see: the "Welsh knot" which went on well into the 1960s), and many are still speaking - Wales definitley has monoglot speakers. As much as you'd like the people of Scotland, Ireland and Wales to seccede that their notions of nationhood are merely misty-eyed nostalgia, and they should not "look to the past" but accept that they are English now, and have been conquered, I don't think they will (and nor should they). The very idea that these struggles are "long since forgotten" shows how ignorant you are. Do you think that the people of Eire have "long since forgotten" 1916? People might work together when they have not been continually repressed by the nation next to them. I think this is the problem with you - your arrogance belies both your lack of empathy and knowledge. It is a trait of the far right to have an anti-academic bent and you are no different. " So which human beings can remember the events of 1916 then? Name them? What can they remember? Nothing, they don't exist. Anyone who could have actively participated in the events have long since died. I bet you are still angry at the Germans about WWI. Can you not see how it's better to bury the hatchet and move forward hand in hand working to build a better future for everyone? Here is a parable you need to learn: A grandfather is talking with his grandson and he says there are two wolves inside of us which are always at war with each other. One of them is a good wolf which represents things like kindness, compassion, co-operation, bravery and love. The other is a bad wolf, which represents things like greed, hatred, revenge, grudges and fear. The grandson stops and thinks about it for a second then he looks up at his grandfather and says, “Grandfather, which one wins?” The grandfather quietly replies, the one you feed. | |||
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"LCC you dont wanna work together thats your problem You believe England should get the biggest say on who the UK is run correct ? Thats actively trying to bully Scotland Wales an NI into submission to live under English rule not cool Where as i believe all countries with min the UK should be independent countries that govern themselves and work has equal neighbours for the common good and not to be oppression I do think we should work together and as is the norm across the democratic world, the size of population determines the size of the voice. This happens in every democratic country in the world, but you don't like it. You think that 1.7m should have as much say as 53m. I say that's not fair, and the constitution agrees with me. So suck it up butter cup. Yup there is that Nasty side coming out " suck it up buttercup" And you wonder why people want independence ? Proving your anti Scottish anti Welsh and Anti N Irish and pro English and would be happy to bully us into submission into English rule " Like the mainlanders will bully the islanders in an independent Scotland? | |||
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"LCC you dont wanna work together thats your problem You believe England should get the biggest say on who the UK is run correct ? Thats actively trying to bully Scotland Wales an NI into submission to live under English rule not cool Where as i believe all countries with min the UK should be independent countries that govern themselves and work has equal neighbours for the common good and not to be oppression I do think we should work together and as is the norm across the democratic world, the size of population determines the size of the voice. This happens in every democratic country in the world, but you don't like it. You think that 1.7m should have as much say as 53m. I say that's not fair, and the constitution agrees with me. So suck it up butter cup. Yup there is that Nasty side coming out " suck it up buttercup" And you wonder why people want independence ? Proving your anti Scottish anti Welsh and Anti N Irish and pro English and would be happy to bully us into submission into English rule Like the mainlanders will bully the islanders in an independent Scotland? " Nice deflection lol The fact you aint denying you love the fact that England should get the biggest say on how the whole UK is run says it all really You sure you aint Tory or UKIP lover or BNP you sound like one | |||
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"LCC you dont wanna work together thats your problem You believe England should get the biggest say on who the UK is run correct ? Thats actively trying to bully Scotland Wales an NI into submission to live under English rule not cool Where as i believe all countries with min the UK should be independent countries that govern themselves and work has equal neighbours for the common good and not to be oppression I do think we should work together and as is the norm across the democratic world, the size of population determines the size of the voice. This happens in every democratic country in the world, but you don't like it. You think that 1.7m should have as much say as 53m. I say that's not fair, and the constitution agrees with me. So suck it up butter cup. Yup there is that Nasty side coming out " suck it up buttercup" And you wonder why people want independence ? Proving your anti Scottish anti Welsh and Anti N Irish and pro English and would be happy to bully us into submission into English rule Like the mainlanders will bully the islanders in an independent Scotland? Nice deflection lol The fact you aint denying you love the fact that England should get the biggest say on how the whole UK is run says it all really You sure you aint Tory or UKIP lover or BNP you sound like one " No, perfect comparison to your statement kinks | |||
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"Question I'd like to know the answer to is if Independence is so strong a sentiment in Scotland... why have they not had a referendum again yet ? " Lol not been listening eh The mandate is fir when the final brexit deal is known then the Scottish people will finally know what the final deal will be and make a fair judgement if independence or srsting in a hard brexit is best forScotland I find it funny thought so many outside of Scotland think they know whats best fior Scotland and the people living in Scotland | |||
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"LCC you dont wanna work together thats your problem You believe England should get the biggest say on who the UK is run correct ? Thats actively trying to bully Scotland Wales an NI into submission to live under English rule not cool Where as i believe all countries with min the UK should be independent countries that govern themselves and work has equal neighbours for the common good and not to be oppression I do think we should work together and as is the norm across the democratic world, the size of population determines the size of the voice. This happens in every democratic country in the world, but you don't like it. You think that 1.7m should have as much say as 53m. I say that's not fair, and the constitution agrees with me. So suck it up butter cup. Yup there is that Nasty side coming out " suck it up buttercup" And you wonder why people want independence ? Proving your anti Scottish anti Welsh and Anti N Irish and pro English and would be happy to bully us into submission into English rule Like the mainlanders will bully the islanders in an independent Scotland? Nice deflection lol The fact you aint denying you love the fact that England should get the biggest say on how the whole UK is run says it all really You sure you aint Tory or UKIP lover or BNP you sound like one " That's how democracies work. The bigger the population, the bigger the voice. As you disagree with the way all democracies are set up, I must only assume that you want some kind of dictatorship or junta. Well I doubt you will find many supporters for that. | |||
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"I'm sure that all cultural differences in the UK are "problematic" to CLCC and they could be cured if only everyone was forced to be English, spoke English and accepted that their union with England was about "unity" as opposed to "empire".... They are much more problematic to Kinky, they want to split the country up! Country? There are four of them in the UK. Why shouldn't they govern themselves? Historic Saxon aggression ought to be a thing of the past, no? Country, the UK is the country. Although some people refer to England, Scotland, Wales and NI as countries, they are not. No individual seats at the UN, EU, NATO, WTO etc. What's your definition of a country? Have you ever read a history book? Ever? Do you know why that is? Because they were the first victims of annexation by England. A country is determined by the willingness of the people within a particular geographical area to govern themselves. Scotland is a country, because the people of Scotland wish it to be so, Ireland is a country, because the people of Ireland wish it to be so, and threw off the yoke of English opression. Wales is a country, because the people of Wales wish it to be, Northern Ireland....more complex. No, it's not. Like I said, no seat at the UN. If me and a few of my mates decided that Cambridge is a country, does that make it So? So a seat at the UN negates centuries of struggle of a particular culture against English oppression? Does Cambridge have its own culture, it's own language, distinct from the rest of England? Do it's people wish for self determination? Are you so devoid of empathy that you cannot recognise the centuries of subjugation, torture and in some cases open warfare directed at these countries by England? Don't you accept that England did its level best to eradicate the native culture and language in Wales, Scotland and Ireland (and Cornwall too)? Since you love cultural imperialism so much, don't you think your true place in politics is on the far right? I hear the BNP are struggling for members.... That is the history of every country in the world, hell even before there was even the notion of the nation state! Any language that you think people should be speaking has replaced a language that was previously spoken. I don't see why small minded people want to look back to the past, re-ignite past conflicts, long since forgotten. I prefer looking to the future, where people work together, not create artificial divisions. It does make a difference when the language that people were speaking was beaten out of them as children by the English (see: the "Welsh knot" which went on well into the 1960s), and many are still speaking - Wales definitley has monoglot speakers. As much as you'd like the people of Scotland, Ireland and Wales to seccede that their notions of nationhood are merely misty-eyed nostalgia, and they should not "look to the past" but accept that they are English now, and have been conquered, I don't think they will (and nor should they). The very idea that these struggles are "long since forgotten" shows how ignorant you are. Do you think that the people of Eire have "long since forgotten" 1916? People might work together when they have not been continually repressed by the nation next to them. I think this is the problem with you - your arrogance belies both your lack of empathy and knowledge. It is a trait of the far right to have an anti-academic bent and you are no different. So which human beings can remember the events of 1916 then? Name them? What can they remember? Nothing, they don't exist. Anyone who could have actively participated in the events have long since died. I bet you are still angry at the Germans about WWI. Can you not see how it's better to bury the hatchet and move forward hand in hand working to build a better future for everyone? Here is a parable you need to learn: A grandfather is talking with his grandson and he says there are two wolves inside of us which are always at war with each other. One of them is a good wolf which represents things like kindness, compassion, co-operation, bravery and love. The other is a bad wolf, which represents things like greed, hatred, revenge, grudges and fear. The grandson stops and thinks about it for a second then he looks up at his grandfather and says, “Grandfather, which one wins?” The grandfather quietly replies, the one you feed." How many Jews can remember the holocaust? If only they would put their petty squabbles aside and accept that they lost their stake in Jerusalem and give up instead of persisting with this silly idea of a separate nation...... | |||
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