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Found something interesting about the UK government ( Scotland analysis paper on European issues
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"Jeez he's a fuckin tryer aint he "Denying that is not true ? Lol | |||
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"What is the question ??" Ok the question is Do you believe the UK government (Scotland analysis paper on European issues such as ( EU , NATO , the international monetary fund , G8 and G20 and involvement in treaties would be LARGELY UNAFFECTED by Scottish independence ? | |||
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"Stating the obvious really. Scotland leaves the UK and its membership of various organisations. The rUK's membership of those organisations continues. Scotland would need to decide which ones it wanted to join and apply as a new state. That seems to be generally accepted by everyone except the militant wing of the SNP. " Pretty spot on 
But wait a minute Sara, Kinky has a pre-prepared "Aha!" answer and you've fallen into his cunning trap. He's been waiting for this all day.
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"Stating the obvious really. Scotland leaves the UK and its membership of various organisations. The rUK's membership of those organisations continues. Scotland would need to decide which ones it wanted to join and apply as a new state. That seems to be generally accepted by everyone except the militant wing of the SNP. " Yep, that's what it means. Scotland wouldn't have a permentant seat on the UN Security Council or use the for example. | |||
"Stating the obvious really. Scotland leaves the UK and its membership of various organisations. The rUK's membership of those organisations continues. Scotland would need to decide which ones it wanted to join and apply as a new state. That seems to be generally accepted by everyone except the militant wing of the SNP. Pretty spot on
But wait a minute Sara, Kinky has a pre-prepared "Aha!" answer and you've fallen into his cunning trap. He's been waiting for this all day.
"And when you ask for a link to the paper he is referring to, the classic Kinky response of 'Wow fucking wow, you Yoons do your own research'  | |||
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"Stating the obvious really. Scotland leaves the UK and its membership of various organisations. The rUK's membership of those organisations continues. Scotland would need to decide which ones it wanted to join and apply as a new state. That seems to be generally accepted by everyone except the militant wing of the SNP. " | |||
"Look at you all trying anything to stop Scottish independence lmao The wee ginger dug said it best " if you're a unionist whos happy for Scotland to be taken out of the EU with no say you dont believe in a union you believe in submission" " Except that Scottish independence was rejected by the Scottish people! Only the Scottish people were allowed to vote on Scottish independence, and they rejected it. The Scottish people prevented Scottish independence. Next time you have a referendum, invite the English to vote too, then you will get your independence! | |||
"Look at you all trying anything to stop Scottish independence lmao The wee ginger dug said it best " if you're a unionist whos happy for Scotland to be taken out of the EU with no say you dont believe in a union you believe in submission" " I don't quite see how pointing out the flaws in your post is "trying anything to stop Scottish independence". But I for one would like to see another referendum fail, for no other reason than to listen for the noise as your head pops with rage. | |||
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"It's just pointing out the obvious, if Scotland choses to leave the UK, it leaves a lot of other organisations too. I think the Scottish people deserve to know the truth, but you would rather keep them in the dark and lie to them about things like the UN Security Council. " | |||
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"Anythibg to keep Scotland in the UK eh lol sad really Afraid to lose Scotland natural resoures and money from tax and revenue tut tut " I dont believe anyone in any of your nasty Scotland independance posts has said they are afraid to lose Scotland, your liying when you spout that trash. What your title states is, if Scotland gain independance then the rest of the UK just stays the same. | |||
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"He misses 2 points. (1) Only the Scottish people could vote in the independence referendum, so only the Scots are to blame for Scotland not being independent. (2) There is a £15 billion deficit in spending in Scotland, versus income tax receipts each year. " 1 . Wrong English born Welsh born or Irish people and Non UK citizens that have lived in Scotland could vote on Scottish independence 2 oh my the 15 billion piss again lol look the UK treasury is the one fucking up the money its not devolved to Scotland Plus all independent have a defict lol Agaib your afraid of losing Scotland assets and our money | |||
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"His spelling really gets shite the more irate he gets doesn't it? "So fucking sorry that i have dyslexia but thanks for judging eh | |||
"His spelling really gets shite the more irate he gets doesn't it?
So fucking sorry that i have dyslexia but thanks for judging eh
"Ah, I see. That explains why you never answer questions on stuff. You have difficulty reading them. | |||
"His spelling really gets shite the more irate he gets doesn't it?
So fucking sorry that i have dyslexia but thanks for judging eh
Ah, I see. That explains why you never answer questions on stuff. You have difficulty reading them. "You honestly trying to make a joke out of that ? | |||
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"Perhaps if we don’t feed the troll he will go away and rim wee jimmy krankie’s hole. " No one forcing you or anyone lol Sounds like your saying anyone else is allowed to start threads but me lol | |||
"Look at you all trying anything to stop Scottish independence lmao The wee ginger dug said it best " if you're a unionist whos happy for Scotland to be taken out of the EU with no say you dont believe in a union you believe in submission" " I don’t see anyone on here trying to stop Scotish independence 
But you do seem to be spending every waking hour trying to justify you’re hate of the English and the BBC | |||
"His spelling really gets shite the more irate he gets doesn't it?
So fucking sorry that i have dyslexia but thanks for judging eh
Ah, I see. That explains why you never answer questions on stuff. You have difficulty reading them. "Yeah, the amount of times people have given them the benefit of the doubt and answered their questions, yet don't get answers back is astounding. I've offered to help them by providing them political textbooks, but that was refused, I sent them links to show that dyslexia is a myth, but they refused to follow them. Like you say, their spelling is only bad when they get angry. They had no problems with spelling when they compared themselves to Jesus Christ, Rosa Parks, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King. | |||
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"Look at you all trying anything to stop Scottish independence lmao The wee ginger dug said it best " if you're a unionist whos happy for Scotland to be taken out of the EU with no say you dont believe in a union you believe in submission" I don’t see anyone on here trying to stop Scotish independence
But you do seem to be spending every waking hour trying to justify you’re hate of the English and the BBC "Lmao No i dont hate England i want England to be independent too is that now classed as hate ? Strange way of thinking lol Yes i hate the BBC they are greedy scumbags no i wont say sorry for that! Oh and some on here do seem very happy for Scotland to get no say in brexit some family of nations eh | |||
"His spelling really gets shite the more irate he gets doesn't it?
So fucking sorry that i have dyslexia but thanks for judging eh
Ah, I see. That explains why you never answer questions on stuff. You have difficulty reading them.
You honestly trying to make a joke out of that ?
"No not at all. Just offering an explanation as to why your arguments are usually toss. | |||
"His spelling really gets shite the more irate he gets doesn't it?
So fucking sorry that i have dyslexia but thanks for judging eh
Ah, I see. That explains why you never answer questions on stuff. You have difficulty reading them.
You honestly trying to make a joke out of that ?
No not at all. Just offering an explanation as to why your arguments are usually toss. "In your opinion In my opinion you tried to make a joke out of that | |||
"His spelling really gets shite the more irate he gets doesn't it?
So fucking sorry that i have dyslexia but thanks for judging eh
Ah, I see. That explains why you never answer questions on stuff. You have difficulty reading them.
You honestly trying to make a joke out of that ?
No not at all. Just offering an explanation as to why your arguments are usually toss.
In your opinion
In my opinion you tried to make a joke out of that "That'll be the dyslexia altering your perception of my words. | |||
"Perhaps if we don’t feed the troll he will go away and rim wee jimmy krankie’s hole. " Fan dabi dozi | |||
"What is the question ?? Ok the question is Do you believe the UK government (Scotland analysis paper on European issues such as ( EU , NATO , the international monetary fund , G8 and G20 and involvement in treaties would be LARGELY UNAFFECTED by Scottish independence ? " It is true We would not be in the G8 or the eu. So no change there. NATO we would contribute very little to. G20 WE WOULD NOT BE IN EITHER. But the monetery fund would probably have to bail out our currency. | |||
"What is the question ?? Ok the question is Do you believe the UK government (Scotland analysis paper on European issues such as ( EU , NATO , the international monetary fund , G8 and G20 and involvement in treaties would be LARGELY UNAFFECTED by Scottish independence ? It is true We would not be in the G8 or the eu. So no change there. NATO we would contribute very little to. G20 WE WOULD NOT BE IN EITHER. But the monetery fund would probably have to bail out our currency." Kinky thinks Scotland would get a permentant seat on the UN Security Council! | |||
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"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have " Again not so much with the English comprehension. They said you wouldn't get a seat at the UN security council. Not that you couldn't. | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have " The truth hurts I guess. | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have Again not so much with the English comprehension. They said you wouldn't get a seat at the UN security council. Not that you couldn't. " Lol again some on here love boasting that Westminster can tell the Scottish people to fuck off we dont care about your wishes correct CLCC ? Its all about keeping Scotland under Westminster rule too afraid to lose Scottish assets and money Too afraid to have English independence which i 100% support | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have The truth hurts I guess. " There is the prove CLCC the anti Scottish lover Loves boasting that " they" do not care about Scotland its all about keeping us under Westminster rule and loves telling everyone that Westminster dictates what powers we in Scotland can have Thats not a union of equals / family of natiins that as close to a dictatorship that some seem to love 3 countries in the UK didnt vote the Tories in a majorites one did guess who and the 3 countries then have to suffer the Tories | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have Again not so much with the English comprehension. They said you wouldn't get a seat at the UN security council. Not that you couldn't. Lol again some on here love boasting that Westminster can tell the Scottish people to fuck off we dont care about your wishes correct CLCC ? Its all about keeping Scotland under Westminster rule too afraid to lose Scottish assets and money Too afraid to have English independence which i 100% support " I just believe in working together, not dividing into smaller and smaller units. I don't really understand how you square your nationalism and your belief in being a sovereign citizen. Why do you care if laws are written in London or Edinburgh if you don't think they apply to you? | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have The truth hurts I guess. There is the prove CLCC the anti Scottish lover Loves boasting that " they" do not care about Scotland its all about keeping us under Westminster rule and loves telling everyone that Westminster dictates what powers we in Scotland can have Thats not a union of equals / family of natiins that as close to a dictatorship that some seem to love 3 countries in the UK didnt vote the Tories in a majorites one did guess who and the 3 countries then have to suffer the Tories " It's not anti Scottish, if Wales left, they wouldn't be on the SC either, same for NI. | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have The truth hurts I guess. There is the prove CLCC the anti Scottish lover Loves boasting that " they" do not care about Scotland its all about keeping us under Westminster rule and loves telling everyone that Westminster dictates what powers we in Scotland can have Thats not a union of equals / family of natiins that as close to a dictatorship that some seem to love 3 countries in the UK didnt vote the Tories in a majorites one did guess who and the 3 countries then have to suffer the Tories It's not anti Scottish, if Wales left, they wouldn't be on the SC either, same for NI." Yes it really is your the biggest one that loves to boast about Westminster rule and dictating the powers we in Scotland can have Ok tell me whats so gemrest about working together ? Can England not go it alone as an independent country is that what you are saying CLCC ? | |||
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"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have The truth hurts I guess. There is the prove CLCC the anti Scottish lover Loves boasting that " they" do not care about Scotland its all about keeping us under Westminster rule and loves telling everyone that Westminster dictates what powers we in Scotland can have Thats not a union of equals / family of natiins that as close to a dictatorship that some seem to love 3 countries in the UK didnt vote the Tories in a majorites one did guess who and the 3 countries then have to suffer the Tories It's not anti Scottish, if Wales left, they wouldn't be on the SC either, same for NI. Yes it really is your the biggest one that loves to boast about Westminster rule and dictating the powers we in Scotland can have Ok tell me whats so gemrest about working together ? Can England not go it alone as an independent country is that what you are saying CLCC ?" I am just pointing out to you the constitutional arrangements of the UK as your ideas are very far removed from reality. England could go it alone, but why would it want to? Cambridge could go it alone, but why would it want to? I could live alone in the woods, but why would I want to? My fundamental politics is that working together is better than going it alone. | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have Again not so much with the English comprehension. They said you wouldn't get a seat at the UN security council. Not that you couldn't. Lol again some on here love boasting that Westminster can tell the Scottish people to fuck off we dont care about your wishes correct CLCC ? Its all about keeping Scotland under Westminster rule too afraid to lose Scottish assets and money Too afraid to have English independence which i 100% support I just believe in working together, not dividing into smaller and smaller units. I don't really understand how you square your nationalism and your belief in being a sovereign citizen. Why do you care if laws are written in London or Edinburgh if you don't think they apply to you? " So come on kinky, I answered your question, are you gonna answer this one? | |||
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"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have Again not so much with the English comprehension. They said you wouldn't get a seat at the UN security council. Not that you couldn't. Lol again some on here love boasting that Westminster can tell the Scottish people to fuck off we dont care about your wishes correct CLCC ? Its all about keeping Scotland under Westminster rule too afraid to lose Scottish assets and money Too afraid to have English independence which i 100% support I just believe in working together, not dividing into smaller and smaller units. I don't really understand how you square your nationalism and your belief in being a sovereign citizen. Why do you care if laws are written in London or Edinburgh if you don't think they apply to you? So come on kinky, I answered your question, are you gonna answer this one? " Or are you refusing to answer this question just like all the others? | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have Again not so much with the English comprehension. They said you wouldn't get a seat at the UN security council. Not that you couldn't. Lol again some on here love boasting that Westminster can tell the Scottish people to fuck off we dont care about your wishes correct CLCC ? Its all about keeping Scotland under Westminster rule too afraid to lose Scottish assets and money Too afraid to have English independence which i 100% support I just believe in working together, not dividing into smaller and smaller units. I don't really understand how you square your nationalism and your belief in being a sovereign citizen. Why do you care if laws are written in London or Edinburgh if you don't think they apply to you? So come on kinky, I answered your question, are you gonna answer this one? Or are you refusing to answer this question just like all the others?" Ok i will answer it Cause Westminster aint no UK parilament first off its English 533 English seats The Tories were not voted by a majority in Scotland yiu cannot say 13 unless Scottish Tories branch mps out of 59 Scottish seats is a majority And i would rather Holyrood have the power over ALL powers where i get decide if i consent to them of not I dont want Westminster rule For example Westminster think its fucking funny to give welfare powers to Scotland but retain 85% of the powers still in Westminster thats not home rule | |||
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"So CLCC your words were that the UK is not a fair and equal union Who is it not fair and equal towards eh ? And you believe England can be independent but you dont think Scotland , Wales and N.Ireland can be independent correct ? " No, that's incorrect, all 4 parts of the UK can be independent, but they would all be worse off for it (not just monetarily). I also think it would be bad for other parts of the world and Could be a catalyst for independence movements and civil war in those countries. The 4 parts of the UK have different sized populations. You think that because their are 4 parts, each part should get an equal say. It doesn't work like that, it's based on population. The thing that I find funny, is that you actually agree with me that the fairest way is to do it by population size, that's why you refuse to answer the question about if an independent Scotland would give equal say to mainlanders and islanders, or if it would make decisions based on population size. Can you answer that question? | |||
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"So CLCC your words were that the UK is not a fair and equal union Who is it not fair and equal towards eh ? And you believe England can be independent but you dont think Scotland , Wales and N.Ireland can be independent correct ? No, that's incorrect, all 4 parts of the UK can be independent, but they would all be worse off for it (not just monetarily). I also think it would be bad for other parts of the world and Could be a catalyst for independence movements and civil war in those countries. The 4 parts of the UK have different sized populations. You think that because their are 4 parts, each part should get an equal say. It doesn't work like that, it's based on population. The thing that I find funny, is that you actually agree with me that the fairest way is to do it by population size, that's why you refuse to answer the question about if an independent Scotland would give equal say to mainlanders and islanders, or if it would make decisions based on population size. Can you answer that question?" So can you answer that question? In an independent Scotland, would the islands have as much say as the mainland? | |||
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"So CLCC your words were that the UK is not a fair and equal union Who is it not fair and equal towards eh ? And you believe England can be independent but you dont think Scotland , Wales and N.Ireland can be independent correct ? No, that's incorrect, all 4 parts of the UK can be independent, but they would all be worse off for it (not just monetarily). I also think it would be bad for other parts of the world and Could be a catalyst for independence movements and civil war in those countries. The 4 parts of the UK have different sized populations. You think that because their are 4 parts, each part should get an equal say. It doesn't work like that, it's based on population. The thing that I find funny, is that you actually agree with me that the fairest way is to do it by population size, that's why you refuse to answer the question about if an independent Scotland would give equal say to mainlanders and islanders, or if it would make decisions based on population size. Can you answer that question? So can you answer that question? In an independent Scotland, would the islands have as much say as the mainland? " Any answer to the question? | |||
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"So CLCC your words were that the UK is not a fair and equal union Who is it not fair and equal towards eh ? And you believe England can be independent but you dont think Scotland , Wales and N.Ireland can be independent correct ? No, that's incorrect, all 4 parts of the UK can be independent, but they would all be worse off for it (not just monetarily). I also think it would be bad for other parts of the world and Could be a catalyst for independence movements and civil war in those countries. The 4 parts of the UK have different sized populations. You think that because their are 4 parts, each part should get an equal say. It doesn't work like that, it's based on population. The thing that I find funny, is that you actually agree with me that the fairest way is to do it by population size, that's why you refuse to answer the question about if an independent Scotland would give equal say to mainlanders and islanders, or if it would make decisions based on population size. Can you answer that question? So can you answer that question? In an independent Scotland, would the islands have as much say as the mainland? Any answer to the question?" Kinky, would would the islands have as much say as the mainland in an independent Scotland? | |||
"His spelling really gets shite the more irate he gets doesn't it?
So fucking sorry that i have dyslexia but thanks for judging eh
Ah, I see. That explains why you never answer questions on stuff. You have difficulty reading them.
You honestly trying to make a joke out of that ?
No not at all. Just offering an explanation as to why your arguments are usually toss.
In your opinion
In my opinion you tried to make a joke out of that
That'll be the dyslexia altering your perception of my words.
"to be honest if someone said to me that kinky was somewhere on the "spectrum" i wouldn't be the least bit suprised... in fact it would probably explain a lot...... | |||
"So CLCC your words were that the UK is not a fair and equal union Who is it not fair and equal towards eh ? And you believe England can be independent but you dont think Scotland , Wales and N.Ireland can be independent correct ? No, that's incorrect, all 4 parts of the UK can be independent, but they would all be worse off for it (not just monetarily). I also think it would be bad for other parts of the world and Could be a catalyst for independence movements and civil war in those countries. The 4 parts of the UK have different sized populations. You think that because their are 4 parts, each part should get an equal say. It doesn't work like that, it's based on population. The thing that I find funny, is that you actually agree with me that the fairest way is to do it by population size, that's why you refuse to answer the question about if an independent Scotland would give equal say to mainlanders and islanders, or if it would make decisions based on population size. Can you answer that question? So can you answer that question? In an independent Scotland, would the islands have as much say as the mainland? Any answer to the question? Kinky, would would the islands have as much say as the mainland in an independent Scotland? " Still no answer. Should I interpret no answer as "no of course they wouldn't have equal say, the mainland population is much bigger than the island population!"? | |||
"So CLCC your words were that the UK is not a fair and equal union Who is it not fair and equal towards eh ? And you believe England can be independent but you dont think Scotland , Wales and N.Ireland can be independent correct ? No, that's incorrect, all 4 parts of the UK can be independent, but they would all be worse off for it (not just monetarily). I also think it would be bad for other parts of the world and Could be a catalyst for independence movements and civil war in those countries. The 4 parts of the UK have different sized populations. You think that because their are 4 parts, each part should get an equal say. It doesn't work like that, it's based on population. The thing that I find funny, is that you actually agree with me that the fairest way is to do it by population size, that's why you refuse to answer the question about if an independent Scotland would give equal say to mainlanders and islanders, or if it would make decisions based on population size. Can you answer that question? So can you answer that question? In an independent Scotland, would the islands have as much say as the mainland? Any answer to the question? Kinky, would would the islands have as much say as the mainland in an independent Scotland? Still no answer. Should I interpret no answer as "no of course they wouldn't have equal say, the mainland population is much bigger than the island population!"? " Nothing? | |||
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"It's a petty question and I don't see the point in it. The Scottish islands are part of Scotland. They have a proportionately BIGGER say at the moment, because large areas and small populations in difficult conditions, should. And that's without going into the MSP route, where their elected representative, with a lot fewer voting supporters, has as much say as an MSP with the biggest voting constituency. That's democracy and that's a socialist government (in Scotland). What happens from Westminster with reserved issues, is southeast centric, to the detriment of the rest of the UK in a way I don't see happening to such a degree in other European countries. " So in an independent Scotland would the islands have as much say as the mainlanders or not? Would an independent Scotland follow the same democratic norms are the rest of the world and base their representation on population size? | |||
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"They'd have the same say as they have now. Unless the Scottish population voted in a non-socialist government in the aftermath. Even so, their 'say' would always be proportionately more. That's democracy." Right, so now their (islanders) say is massively less than mainlanders because their population is a lot smaller than the people who live on the mainland, correct? | |||
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"They'd have the same say as they have now. Unless the Scottish population voted in a non-socialist government in the aftermath. Even so, their 'say' would always be proportionately more. That's democracy. Right, so now their (islanders) say is massively less than mainlanders because their population is a lot smaller than the people who live on the mainland, correct? " Wrong. Please read and assimilate. | |||
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"They'd have the same say as they have now. Unless the Scottish population voted in a non-socialist government in the aftermath. Even so, their 'say' would always be proportionately more. That's democracy. Right, so now their (islanders) say is massively less than mainlanders because their population is a lot smaller than the people who live on the mainland, correct? Wrong. Please read and assimilate." Wrong? The population of the islands is around 100,000. The population on the mainland is around 5.2 million. Are you saying that they have the same number of MPs, and the same number of MSPs? | |||
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"They'd have the same say as they have now. Unless the Scottish population voted in a non-socialist government in the aftermath. Even so, their 'say' would always be proportionately more. That's democracy. Right, so now their (islanders) say is massively less than mainlanders because their population is a lot smaller than the people who live on the mainland, correct? Wrong. Please read and assimilate. Wrong? The population of the islands is around 100,000. The population on the mainland is around 5.2 million. Are you saying that they have the same number of MPs, and the same number of MSPs? " Read and assimilate. Right, so not willing to admit that you are wrong then. The islands have a small population, and have a small say. The mainland have a larger population, and larger say. England has a larger population, and hence a larger say than Scotland. Kinky thinks this is unfair, hence my question avout how a similar situation in an independent Scotland would be tackled. Kinky wouldn't want to say that 100,000 should have as much say as 5 million+, but can't say that representation should be based on population size, because that would destroy their arguement that Scotland should have as much say as England. So kinky refuses to answer the question, or similar questions, and I will leave people to make their own minds up about what that makes kinky look like. | |||
"Some real nasty people on here that do not live in Scotland seem to love telling Scotland what we cant have " I am Scottish and I am not being nasty and no one is saying what Scotland cand do or not do. All the organisations are by invite only. Scotland would be invited to join NATO. Please remember there were many people left the snp because the long term stance of the snp was not to be a member of NATO because it is a nuclear armed defence force. The policy only changed at the referendum so not to loose votes. The other organizations are invite only so Scotland having a small economy compared to USA, Germany France etc there would be no invite. So sorry as a fellow Scot you are wrong. | |||
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"They'd have the same say as they have now. Unless the Scottish population voted in a non-socialist government in the aftermath. Even so, their 'say' would always be proportionately more. That's democracy. Right, so now their (islanders) say is massively less than mainlanders because their population is a lot smaller than the people who live on the mainland, correct? Wrong. Please read and assimilate. Wrong? The population of the islands is around 100,000. The population on the mainland is around 5.2 million. Are you saying that they have the same number of MPs, and the same number of MSPs? Read and assimilate. Right, so not willing to admit that you are wrong then. The islands have a small population, and have a small say. The mainland have a larger population, and larger say. England has a larger population, and hence a larger say than Scotland. Kinky thinks this is unfair, hence my question avout how a similar situation in an independent Scotland would be tackled. Kinky wouldn't want to say that 100,000 should have as much say as 5 million+, but can't say that representation should be based on population size, because that would destroy their arguement that Scotland should have as much say as England. So kinky refuses to answer the question, or similar questions, and I will leave people to make their own minds up about what that makes kinky look like. CCLC- sometimes, you really do have to reread things and learn that shouting nonsense loudly doesn't make it true and neither does making up responses about things you don't understand or know nothing about. " Which bit specifically is nonsense? | |||
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"They'd have the same say as they have now. Unless the Scottish population voted in a non-socialist government in the aftermath. Even so, their 'say' would always be proportionately more. That's democracy. Right, so now their (islanders) say is massively less than mainlanders because their population is a lot smaller than the people who live on the mainland, correct? Wrong. Please read and assimilate. Wrong? The population of the islands is around 100,000. The population on the mainland is around 5.2 million. Are you saying that they have the same number of MPs, and the same number of MSPs? Read and assimilate. Right, so not willing to admit that you are wrong then. The islands have a small population, and have a small say. The mainland have a larger population, and larger say. England has a larger population, and hence a larger say than Scotland. Kinky thinks this is unfair, hence my question avout how a similar situation in an independent Scotland would be tackled. Kinky wouldn't want to say that 100,000 should have as much say as 5 million+, but can't say that representation should be based on population size, because that would destroy their arguement that Scotland should have as much say as England. So kinky refuses to answer the question, or similar questions, and I will leave people to make their own minds up about what that makes kinky look like. CCLC- sometimes, you really do have to reread things and learn that shouting nonsense loudly doesn't make it true and neither does making up responses about things you don't understand or know nothing about. Which bit specifically is nonsense? That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. " So you can't find anything factually incorrect with what I have said, you just don't like it because I said it. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. " Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol | |||
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"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol " Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't." This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? | |||
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"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all?" Well have you got any qualifications in politics? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? " I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them " That's why I'm asking. Do you? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all?" Pot calling the kettle black I think. You bang on about research but never inlighten us with your in deapth research kinky !!! You tend to hide behind it !!! | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? " Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? " You could try us ???? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? " Well do you or don't you? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Pot calling the kettle black I think. You bang on about research but never inlighten us with your in deapth research kinky !!! You tend to hide behind it !!!" Hello!!!! Where does it state in fab forums i ( kinky) have to give where i get my research from ? Stop being lazy and do it yourself thats why the UK is fucked too lazy to do your own research | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Pot calling the kettle black I think. You bang on about research but never inlighten us with your in deapth research kinky !!! You tend to hide behind it !!! Hello!!!! Where does it state in fab forums i ( kinky) have to give where i get my research from ? Stop being lazy and do it yourself thats why the UK is fucked too lazy to do your own research " I had a bet with myself and won. Exactly the evasive answer I expected. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? " Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe" No, you are saying it's better if people have done their research, therefore surely it's better if their research and knowledge has been objectively tested by awarded bodies. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe" Fantastic evasive answer !!! | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!!" Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol " You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !!" Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ?" Maybe !!!! | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! " Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol " It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . " I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol " I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ??" Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao" My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !!" So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? " Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? " you did start this thread of conversation on YOUR qualifications and I stated it would depend on what you were going to claim what you told. Again If you tell me you are a trained cosmonaut I am not going to believe you. If it is something more attainable than I might believe you. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. " How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them | |||
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"Whether you enlighten the other posters of your mysterious qualification I really don't care. All you have once again confirmed to me is you are in capable of answering any questions then you can't understand why no one on here takes you seriously! !!" Lol | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them " Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. " who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds | |||
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"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds" Lol I know what you mean. The organization I work for was privatised and the people taking over stated they were gonna show us how to do the job properly! !!! I am still waiting 20 years on !!!! I have never seen so many fuck ups since they took over !!!! | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds" But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years?" engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done  | |||
"His point was - you can tell when someone is educated, and when someone is not. You are right, in that the chap with a PhD in civil engineering will not know the tricks of the trade, because they come through experience. He doesn't know that you have to hit the valve with the hammer as you turn it. The chap who left school at 16 with no qualifications and who has worked there for 30 years does, but you can tell that the chap with the PhD straight out of uni is the more intelligent of the two." Education and intelligence are not the same thing at all! | |||
"His point was - you can tell when someone is educated, and when someone is not. You are right, in that the chap with a PhD in civil engineering will not know the tricks of the trade, because they come through experience. He doesn't know that you have to hit the valve with the hammer as you turn it. The chap who left school at 16 with no qualifications and who has worked there for 30 years does, but you can tell that the chap with the PhD straight out of uni is the more intelligent of the two. Education and intelligence are not the same thing at all!" | |||
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"His point was - you can tell when someone is educated, and when someone is not. You are right, in that the chap with a PhD in civil engineering will not know the tricks of the trade, because they come through experience. He doesn't know that you have to hit the valve with the hammer as you turn it. The chap who left school at 16 with no qualifications and who has worked there for 30 years does, but you can tell that the chap with the PhD straight out of uni is the more intelligent of the two. Education and intelligence are not the same thing at all!" exactly, when I was doing my HND years back, the college (Highlands & Islands) were basically giving out the answers, they gave past years question papers and listed exact questions you would expect to find in the years exam you were about to sit all because they needed every student to pass, so the college would get a better pass mark itself. . and the amount of mates who done open uni whilst offshore, all sharing work, swapping papers its fairly laughable. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done "If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle. | |||
"His point was - you can tell when someone is educated, and when someone is not. You are right, in that the chap with a PhD in civil engineering will not know the tricks of the trade, because they come through experience. He doesn't know that you have to hit the valve with the hammer as you turn it. The chap who left school at 16 with no qualifications and who has worked there for 30 years does, but you can tell that the chap with the PhD straight out of uni is the more intelligent of the two. Education and intelligence are not the same thing at all! exactly, when I was doing my HND years back, the college (Highlands & Islands) were basically giving out the answers, they gave past years question papers and listed exact questions you would expect to find in the years exam you were about to sit all because they needed every student to pass, so the college would get a better pass mark itself. . and the amount of mates who done open uni whilst offshore, all sharing work, swapping papers its fairly laughable. " You are obviously ignorant to the fact that universities use software such as Turn It In that check the document for plagiarism before the tutor even sees it. More likely, they were on a rig full of people who thought that studying was for nerds and so pretended they were cheating rather than letting people like you know they were working their arses off. | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done
If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle. "what type of valve? what required rating? is it flow control? what temp, what pressure? is it a LCV? again operators & engineers in the oil industry work hand in hand together, perhaps you should consider working with others rather than think you are right all the time | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done
If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle.
what type of valve? what required rating? is it flow control? what temp, what pressure? is it a LCV? again operators & engineers in the oil industry work hand in hand together, perhaps you should consider working with others rather than think you are right all the time"Does the difference in valve make a difference into who would be better at fixing it, the PhD or the guy with 10 yrs experience? | |||
"His point was - you can tell when someone is educated, and when someone is not. You are right, in that the chap with a PhD in civil engineering will not know the tricks of the trade, because they come through experience. He doesn't know that you have to hit the valve with the hammer as you turn it. The chap who left school at 16 with no qualifications and who has worked there for 30 years does, but you can tell that the chap with the PhD straight out of uni is the more intelligent of the two. Education and intelligence are not the same thing at all! exactly, when I was doing my HND years back, the college (Highlands & Islands) were basically giving out the answers, they gave past years question papers and listed exact questions you would expect to find in the years exam you were about to sit all because they needed every student to pass, so the college would get a better pass mark itself. . and the amount of mates who done open uni whilst offshore, all sharing work, swapping papers its fairly laughable. You are obviously ignorant to the fact that universities use software such as Turn It In that check the document for plagiarism before the tutor even sees it. More likely, they were on a rig full of people who thought that studying was for nerds and so pretended they were cheating rather than letting people like you know they were working their arses off." not at all, 2 guys doing same subject, one would do one question paper, and one the other, they would swap papers, modify the answers and put them in, one of these guys is now an OIM doing very well. and as for my HND that was in 2002 when we were basically given the questions | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done
If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle.
what type of valve? what required rating? is it flow control? what temp, what pressure? is it a LCV? again operators & engineers in the oil industry work hand in hand together, perhaps you should consider working with others rather than think you are right all the time
Does the difference in valve make a difference into who would be better at fixing it, the PhD or the guy with 10 yrs experience? "absolutely, you need to consider what it is being used for, all pressures, temps etc, possibility of erosion of faces, from sand etc, consultation between engineer and hands on Operators are essential, that's why oil company corporations are so successful they work in "teams" you should try it | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done
If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle.
what type of valve? what required rating? is it flow control? what temp, what pressure? is it a LCV? again operators & engineers in the oil industry work hand in hand together, perhaps you should consider working with others rather than think you are right all the time
Does the difference in valve make a difference into who would be better at fixing it, the PhD or the guy with 10 yrs experience?
absolutely, you need to consider what it is being used for, all pressures, temps etc, possibility of erosion of faces, from sand etc, consultation between engineer and hands on Operators are essential, that's why oil company corporations are so successful they work in "teams" you should try it"So some valves are better changed by PhDs? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done
If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle.
what type of valve? what required rating? is it flow control? what temp, what pressure? is it a LCV? again operators & engineers in the oil industry work hand in hand together, perhaps you should consider working with others rather than think you are right all the time
Does the difference in valve make a difference into who would be better at fixing it, the PhD or the guy with 10 yrs experience?
absolutely, you need to consider what it is being used for, all pressures, temps etc, possibility of erosion of faces, from sand etc, consultation between engineer and hands on Operators are essential, that's why oil company corporations are so successful they work in "teams" you should try it
So some valves are better changed by PhDs? "well now you ask, some engineers are sent offshore to work hands on, same as control room ops and outside ops are sent to the beach for 6 month projects or assignments, or indeed relocated over to Houston on project builds Some control room operators and outside operators have much more knowledge than university engineers when it comes to projects, but again we are all put into teams to ensure the best results. . This is something you need to learn if you want to succeed; "TEAM WORK" | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done
If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle.
what type of valve? what required rating? is it flow control? what temp, what pressure? is it a LCV? again operators & engineers in the oil industry work hand in hand together, perhaps you should consider working with others rather than think you are right all the time
Does the difference in valve make a difference into who would be better at fixing it, the PhD or the guy with 10 yrs experience?
absolutely, you need to consider what it is being used for, all pressures, temps etc, possibility of erosion of faces, from sand etc, consultation between engineer and hands on Operators are essential, that's why oil company corporations are so successful they work in "teams" you should try it
So some valves are better changed by PhDs? "WTF! !!! This is a post worrthy of kinky !!!! If my boss finds out I am not educated to degree level I am out a job aaaaaahhh. The correct person to do anything is the person that has been trained to do the task properly !!! Nothing to do with degrees !!!! | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done
If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle.
what type of valve? what required rating? is it flow control? what temp, what pressure? is it a LCV? again operators & engineers in the oil industry work hand in hand together, perhaps you should consider working with others rather than think you are right all the time
Does the difference in valve make a difference into who would be better at fixing it, the PhD or the guy with 10 yrs experience?
absolutely, you need to consider what it is being used for, all pressures, temps etc, possibility of erosion of faces, from sand etc, consultation between engineer and hands on Operators are essential, that's why oil company corporations are so successful they work in "teams" you should try it
So some valves are better changed by PhDs?
well now you ask,
some engineers are sent offshore to work hands on, same as control room ops and outside ops are sent to the beach for 6 month projects or assignments, or indeed relocated over to Houston on project builds
Some control room operators and outside operators have much more knowledge than university engineers when it comes to projects, but again we are all put into teams to ensure the best results.
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This is something you need to learn if you want to succeed; "TEAM WORK""And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research? | |||
"That's where you have to reread and learn to critique yourself. Read and so research on here ? You must be taking the piss lol no one on here does research they would rather others do it for them lol Research? Like proper academic research? As in, people spending years of their lives dedicated to the study of a subject and receiving qualifications in that area? Yeah, some people have those qualifications, and some of us don't. This when your gonna claim you do and we dont without know a damn anything about any of us Like your some how superior to us eh above us all? Well have you got any qualifications in politics? I might thats the point though you dont know You shove that shit down peoples throats like your all high and mighty thinking your superior to everyone in here when you dont know a thing about them That's why I'm asking. Do you? Again i might do If i say yes would you believe me ? Well do you or don't you? Again i might do If i said yes would you believe me? I know your itchying in your knickers that if i say yes you will say i dint believe you correct ? So whats the point ? The fact is you think your superior to people on here like we are shit on your shoe Fantastic evasive answer !!! Lmao at what point do i have to tell you anything about my private life ? What i have studied or not studied ? You lot really are an angry bunch lol You are completely correct. Please remember it was you that infered you might have some kind of qualifications! !! Yup might if i said yes would you believe me ? Maybe !!!! Lol so whats the point in me answering if you "maybe" think i have lol It is simple !!! You state you have researched this that and the next thing but never offer verified proof. I have to be honest with you I really don't expect you to tell anyone if you do hold your mysterious qualifications . I dont have too correct ? What you git your panties in a twist for ? Lol Maybe just maybe you could go and research it yourself lol I can research your mysterious qualifications? ?? Why do you wanna know ? What difference would it make to you ? You said " maybe" believe me Lmao My answer is simple if you claimed to have a doctorate from Harvard business school I might have trouble believing you. If you stated you had a degree from Glasgow caly I might belive you. So maybe was the correct answer for me !! So in all there is little point in know what someone has studied or not studied their private life correct ? Incorrect as your initial complaint was about people doing their research, then you got all pissy because some have been trained to do it, and others haven't. How do you know i havent been trained to so it ? If i said yes would you believe me ? My opinion you believe that cause you say your trained that gives you some sort of right to claim your superior to them Because of your lack of ability in framing a position, providing suitable evidence, and then defending that position. It's obvious that you haven't studied at degree level or above, and I doubt even A levels either. I'm not claiming that I am superior, but I am staying that I know what I'm talking about. Imagine a qualified plumber coming to my house, within 30 seconds he would be able to suss out if I too was a qualified plumber or not. He wouldn't look down on me because I wasn't, but if I started talking bollocks about connecting the push fit lagging to the downpipe of the central ballcock faring, then he would probably tell me that he knows what he is talking about. who would you have do the job, a guy with a degree and no experience? or a guy without a degree and 10 years plus experience? . We used to get so called engineers fresh out of uni all the time offshore, all full of facts, figures, graphs and suggestions, but zero experience and head in the clouds But kinky is talking about research, who do you think would be better at research? The guy with the PhD, or someone who has been working with their hands for 10 years? engineers on the beach were constantly in touch with the control room and hands on operators for "real information" have you ever considered both need each other to get the job done
If I asked you, who would be better at swapping out a valve, you could answer as quick as a flash. But when I ask which would be better at research, you seem to struggle.
what type of valve? what required rating? is it flow control? what temp, what pressure? is it a LCV? again operators & engineers in the oil industry work hand in hand together, perhaps you should consider working with others rather than think you are right all the time
Does the difference in valve make a difference into who would be better at fixing it, the PhD or the guy with 10 yrs experience?
absolutely, you need to consider what it is being used for, all pressures, temps etc, possibility of erosion of faces, from sand etc, consultation between engineer and hands on Operators are essential, that's why oil company corporations are so successful they work in "teams" you should try it
So some valves are better changed by PhDs?
well now you ask,
some engineers are sent offshore to work hands on, same as control room ops and outside ops are sent to the beach for 6 month projects or assignments, or indeed relocated over to Houston on project builds
Some control room operators and outside operators have much more knowledge than university engineers when it comes to projects, but again we are all put into teams to ensure the best results.
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This is something you need to learn if you want to succeed; "TEAM WORK"
And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research? "all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea. | |||
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" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea."Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry. You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves. If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber. Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research. However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't. | |||
" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea.
Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry.
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves.
If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber.
Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research.
However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't. "lol; CLCC, come on think about it, plumb a kitchen, even you can plumb a kitchen, think about it, how much plumbing is needed for a kitchen, you can even do your own gas fittings yourself (if you own your own home)
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I personally think if you stuck in more at work yourself, done more work rather than spend your time on forums, then perhaps you could retire earlier and enjoy life, that is ofcourse if you do work?
what exactly do you do, care to share, eh no, I thought not
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" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea.
Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry.
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves.
If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber.
Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research.
However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't.
lol;
CLCC, come on think about it, plumb a kitchen, even you can plumb a kitchen, think about it, how much plumbing is needed for a kitchen, you can even do your own gas fittings yourself (if you own your own home)
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I personally think if you stuck in more at work yourself, done more work rather than spend your time on forums, then perhaps you could retire earlier and enjoy life, that is ofcourse if you do work?
what exactly do you do, care to share, eh no, I thought not
"I do lots of things | |||
" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea.
Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry.
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves.
If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber.
Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research.
However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't. "As we've seen in recent years academics don't always know best. Polling experts have consistently got it wrong time and time again even though a mountain of research must have gone into the work they did and conclusions they came up with still turned out to be wrong. What you read in text books doesn't always translate into real life situations when it comes to doing the practical side of a job, this is where people often use their own initiative and innovation when faced with problems that don't come up in text books. I watched a documentary series recently called 'Dog fights' and was about fighter pilots engaged in conflicts throughout the decades since flight was invented. Classic example of academics getting it wrong was in this documentary series, where all fighter plane dogfights were fought with heavy machine guns or cannons mounted on fighter planes up until the Vietnam war when air to air missile systems were invented. After air to air missiles were invented the academics, bookworms and experts at the Pentagon said the fighter plane machine gun/cannon was now obsolete and no longer needed, so the US Air force did away with it in favour of air to air missile systems on their planes for Vietnam. The pilots who were flying the planes were not happy about it and wanted to keep the machine gun/cannon on their planes to compliment the air to air missiles. But no the experts in the offices at the Pentagon thought they knew best. Upon engaging enemy MiGs above the sky's of Vietnam it became clear just how wrong those experts were as the new air to air missile systems often failed and with no machine gun/cannon mounted on the US planes they became defenceless against the MiGs who kept their machine guns/cannons mounted on their planes. The US pilots who flew over Vietnam and were interviewed in the series were absolutely fuming and livid with the academics, bookworms and so called experts in the Pentagon, as they refused to listen to the pilots who had the real practical experience in battle, the academic experts thought they knew it all from textbooks but they were wrong and the pilots were right. I'll take someone's advice who has real practical experience of real life situations over a book reading academic anyday thanks. | |||
" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea.
Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry.
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves.
If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber.
Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research.
However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't.
As we've seen in recent years academics don't always know best. Polling experts have consistently got it wrong time and time again even though a mountain of research must have gone into the work they did and conclusions they came up with still turned out to be wrong.
What you read in text books doesn't always translate into real life situations when it comes to doing the practical side of a job, this is where people often use their own initiative and innovation when faced with problems that don't come up in text books.
I watched a documentary series recently called 'Dog fights' and was about fighter pilots engaged in conflicts throughout the decades since flight was invented. Classic example of academics getting it wrong was in this documentary series, where all fighter plane dogfights were fought with heavy machine guns or cannons mounted on fighter planes up until the Vietnam war when air to air missile systems were invented. After air to air missiles were invented the academics, bookworms and experts at the Pentagon said the fighter plane machine gun/cannon was now obsolete and no longer needed, so the US Air force did away with it in favour of air to air missile systems on their planes for Vietnam. The pilots who were flying the planes were not happy about it and wanted to keep the machine gun/cannon on their planes to compliment the air to air missiles. But no the experts in the offices at the Pentagon thought they knew best. Upon engaging enemy MiGs above the sky's of Vietnam it became clear just how wrong those experts were as the new air to air missile systems often failed and with no machine gun/cannon mounted on the US planes they became defenceless against the MiGs who kept their machine guns/cannons mounted on their planes. The US pilots who flew over Vietnam and were interviewed in the series were absolutely fuming and livid with the academics, bookworms and so called experts in the Pentagon, as they refused to listen to the pilots who had the real practical experience in battle, the academic experts thought they knew it all from textbooks but they were wrong and the pilots were right. I'll take someone's advice who has real practical experience of real life situations over a book reading academic anyday thanks. "Most uneducated people would. | |||
"Education and intelligence are inextricably linked. Education and common sense, or experience, are different things. " No, they are not inextricably linked at all. In fact, barely even linked! Education can be dinned into the slowest of brains but intelligence comes in many types and levels. | |||
" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea.
Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry.
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves.
If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber.
Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research.
However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't.
As we've seen in recent years academics don't always know best. Polling experts have consistently got it wrong time and time again even though a mountain of research must have gone into the work they did and conclusions they came up with still turned out to be wrong.
What you read in text books doesn't always translate into real life situations when it comes to doing the practical side of a job, this is where people often use their own initiative and innovation when faced with problems that don't come up in text books.
I watched a documentary series recently called 'Dog fights' and was about fighter pilots engaged in conflicts throughout the decades since flight was invented. Classic example of academics getting it wrong was in this documentary series, where all fighter plane dogfights were fought with heavy machine guns or cannons mounted on fighter planes up until the Vietnam war when air to air missile systems were invented. After air to air missiles were invented the academics, bookworms and experts at the Pentagon said the fighter plane machine gun/cannon was now obsolete and no longer needed, so the US Air force did away with it in favour of air to air missile systems on their planes for Vietnam. The pilots who were flying the planes were not happy about it and wanted to keep the machine gun/cannon on their planes to compliment the air to air missiles. But no the experts in the offices at the Pentagon thought they knew best. Upon engaging enemy MiGs above the sky's of Vietnam it became clear just how wrong those experts were as the new air to air missile systems often failed and with no machine gun/cannon mounted on the US planes they became defenceless against the MiGs who kept their machine guns/cannons mounted on their planes. The US pilots who flew over Vietnam and were interviewed in the series were absolutely fuming and livid with the academics, bookworms and so called experts in the Pentagon, as they refused to listen to the pilots who had the real practical experience in battle, the academic experts thought they knew it all from textbooks but they were wrong and the pilots were right. I'll take someone's advice who has real practical experience of real life situations over a book reading academic anyday thanks.
Most uneducated people would. "Yeah because all of those US fighter pilots who disagreed with the academic book reading twats in the Pentagon must have all been uneducated thickos.  | |||
" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea.
Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry.
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves.
If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber.
Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research.
However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't.
As we've seen in recent years academics don't always know best. Polling experts have consistently got it wrong time and time again even though a mountain of research must have gone into the work they did and conclusions they came up with still turned out to be wrong.
What you read in text books doesn't always translate into real life situations when it comes to doing the practical side of a job, this is where people often use their own initiative and innovation when faced with problems that don't come up in text books.
I watched a documentary series recently called 'Dog fights' and was about fighter pilots engaged in conflicts throughout the decades since flight was invented. Classic example of academics getting it wrong was in this documentary series, where all fighter plane dogfights were fought with heavy machine guns or cannons mounted on fighter planes up until the Vietnam war when air to air missile systems were invented. After air to air missiles were invented the academics, bookworms and experts at the Pentagon said the fighter plane machine gun/cannon was now obsolete and no longer needed, so the US Air force did away with it in favour of air to air missile systems on their planes for Vietnam. The pilots who were flying the planes were not happy about it and wanted to keep the machine gun/cannon on their planes to compliment the air to air missiles. But no the experts in the offices at the Pentagon thought they knew best. Upon engaging enemy MiGs above the sky's of Vietnam it became clear just how wrong those experts were as the new air to air missile systems often failed and with no machine gun/cannon mounted on the US planes they became defenceless against the MiGs who kept their machine guns/cannons mounted on their planes. The US pilots who flew over Vietnam and were interviewed in the series were absolutely fuming and livid with the academics, bookworms and so called experts in the Pentagon, as they refused to listen to the pilots who had the real practical experience in battle, the academic experts thought they knew it all from textbooks but they were wrong and the pilots were right. I'll take someone's advice who has real practical experience of real life situations over a book reading academic anyday thanks.
Most uneducated people would.
Yeah because all of those US fighter pilots who disagreed with the academic book reading twats in the Pentagon must have all been uneducated thickos. "The generals in the USAF at the time would have been the pilots from WWII and Korea. | |||
" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea.
Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry.
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves.
If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber.
Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research.
However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't.
As we've seen in recent years academics don't always know best. Polling experts have consistently got it wrong time and time again even though a mountain of research must have gone into the work they did and conclusions they came up with still turned out to be wrong.
What you read in text books doesn't always translate into real life situations when it comes to doing the practical side of a job, this is where people often use their own initiative and innovation when faced with problems that don't come up in text books.
I watched a documentary series recently called 'Dog fights' and was about fighter pilots engaged in conflicts throughout the decades since flight was invented. Classic example of academics getting it wrong was in this documentary series, where all fighter plane dogfights were fought with heavy machine guns or cannons mounted on fighter planes up until the Vietnam war when air to air missile systems were invented. After air to air missiles were invented the academics, bookworms and experts at the Pentagon said the fighter plane machine gun/cannon was now obsolete and no longer needed, so the US Air force did away with it in favour of air to air missile systems on their planes for Vietnam. The pilots who were flying the planes were not happy about it and wanted to keep the machine gun/cannon on their planes to compliment the air to air missiles. But no the experts in the offices at the Pentagon thought they knew best. Upon engaging enemy MiGs above the sky's of Vietnam it became clear just how wrong those experts were as the new air to air missile systems often failed and with no machine gun/cannon mounted on the US planes they became defenceless against the MiGs who kept their machine guns/cannons mounted on their planes. The US pilots who flew over Vietnam and were interviewed in the series were absolutely fuming and livid with the academics, bookworms and so called experts in the Pentagon, as they refused to listen to the pilots who had the real practical experience in battle, the academic experts thought they knew it all from textbooks but they were wrong and the pilots were right. I'll take someone's advice who has real practical experience of real life situations over a book reading academic anyday thanks.
Most uneducated people would.
Yeah because all of those US fighter pilots who disagreed with the academic book reading twats in the Pentagon must have all been uneducated thickos.
The generals in the USAF at the time would have been the pilots from WWII and Korea."You mean they had no real experience in battle of air to air missile systems and had only read about it in books because those systems were not available in WW2 and Korea. Plus the pilots who flew over Vietnam who were interviewed in the Documentary were livid and said they had requested heavy machine gun/cannon to stay on the fighter planes but were denied by academic pen pushing desk jockey's in the Pentagon. I suggest you locate and watch the documentary before you comment further as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. | |||
" And how many non-academics staff were asked to conduct research?
all oil corporation staff who are employed, are expected to have the ability to work outwith the area they specialise in, they require the ability to adjust to new surroundings, new projects & assignments
with the comments you have quoted on here CLCC, I advise you do not apply for any oil & gas employment.
time to put some lamb chops on, what you having for tea.
Right, so none are asking to participate in academic research. Believe me, I have no interest whatsoever of working in the oil or gas industry.
You have a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder about people who have taken the time to educate themselves.
If I asked you who would be better at plumbing a kitchen, a plumber or an electrician, any normal person would say the plumber.
Again, any normal person would understand that the person who has done 2 year of A-Levels, 3 years of Bachelors degree, 1 year of Masters degree and 3 years of a PhD would be better at research than someone who hasn't spent any time doing research.
However, that chip on your shoulder means that you can't.
As we've seen in recent years academics don't always know best. Polling experts have consistently got it wrong time and time again even though a mountain of research must have gone into the work they did and conclusions they came up with still turned out to be wrong.
What you read in text books doesn't always translate into real life situations when it comes to doing the practical side of a job, this is where people often use their own initiative and innovation when faced with problems that don't come up in text books.
I watched a documentary series recently called 'Dog fights' and was about fighter pilots engaged in conflicts throughout the decades since flight was invented. Classic example of academics getting it wrong was in this documentary series, where all fighter plane dogfights were fought with heavy machine guns or cannons mounted on fighter planes up until the Vietnam war when air to air missile systems were invented. After air to air missiles were invented the academics, bookworms and experts at the Pentagon said the fighter plane machine gun/cannon was now obsolete and no longer needed, so the US Air force did away with it in favour of air to air missile systems on their planes for Vietnam. The pilots who were flying the planes were not happy about it and wanted to keep the machine gun/cannon on their planes to compliment the air to air missiles. But no the experts in the offices at the Pentagon thought they knew best. Upon engaging enemy MiGs above the sky's of Vietnam it became clear just how wrong those experts were as the new air to air missile systems often failed and with no machine gun/cannon mounted on the US planes they became defenceless against the MiGs who kept their machine guns/cannons mounted on their planes. The US pilots who flew over Vietnam and were interviewed in the series were absolutely fuming and livid with the academics, bookworms and so called experts in the Pentagon, as they refused to listen to the pilots who had the real practical experience in battle, the academic experts thought they knew it all from textbooks but they were wrong and the pilots were right. I'll take someone's advice who has real practical experience of real life situations over a book reading academic anyday thanks.
Most uneducated people would.
Yeah because all of those US fighter pilots who disagreed with the academic book reading twats in the Pentagon must have all been uneducated thickos.
The generals in the USAF at the time would have been the pilots from WWII and Korea.
You mean they had no real experience in battle of air to air missile systems and had only read about it in books because those systems were not available in WW2 and Korea. Plus the pilots who flew over Vietnam who were interviewed in the Documentary were livid and said they had requested heavy machine gun/cannon to stay on the fighter planes but were denied by academic pen pushing desk jockey's in the Pentagon. I suggest you locate and watch the documentary before you comment further as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. "I'm well aware of what you are talking about. | |||
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"Come to think of it Centaur, it's even stated in the movie Top Gun! What a cracking bit of research there! "Look at the time stamps on your posts CLCC.....just 2 hours between your last post and this one. Now considering the documentary series I talked about is over many episodes which each episode lasting an hour long over the entire series there must be at least 10 hours of footage, there is no way you could have watched the documentary I mentioned. Like I said earlier go away and comment on it when you've actually watched the documentary because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. | |||
"Come to think of it Centaur, it's even stated in the movie Top Gun! What a cracking bit of research there!
Look at the time stamps on your posts CLCC.....just 2 hours between your last post and this one. Now considering the documentary series I talked about is over many episodes which each episode lasting an hour long over the entire series there must be at least 10 hours of footage, there is no way you could have watched the documentary I mentioned. Like I said earlier go away and comment on it when you've actually watched the documentary because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. "I do, it's not something unique to this unnamed documentary that you mention, as pointed out above, it's so well known it's even referenced in Hollywood movies. | |||
"Come to think of it Centaur, it's even stated in the movie Top Gun! What a cracking bit of research there!
Look at the time stamps on your posts CLCC.....just 2 hours between your last post and this one. Now considering the documentary series I talked about is over many episodes which each episode lasting an hour long over the entire series there must be at least 10 hours of footage, there is no way you could have watched the documentary I mentioned. Like I said earlier go away and comment on it when you've actually watched the documentary because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I do, it's not something unique to this unnamed documentary that you mention, as pointed out above, it's so well known it's even referenced in Hollywood movies. "Unnamed documentary????? This proves you haven't been paying attention or even reading the posts properly. I said in an earlier post the documentary series was called 'Dogfights'. | |||
"Come to think of it Centaur, it's even stated in the movie Top Gun! What a cracking bit of research there!
Look at the time stamps on your posts CLCC.....just 2 hours between your last post and this one. Now considering the documentary series I talked about is over many episodes which each episode lasting an hour long over the entire series there must be at least 10 hours of footage, there is no way you could have watched the documentary I mentioned. Like I said earlier go away and comment on it when you've actually watched the documentary because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
I do, it's not something unique to this unnamed documentary that you mention, as pointed out above, it's so well known it's even referenced in Hollywood movies.
Unnamed documentary?????
This proves you haven't been paying attention or even reading the posts properly. I said in an earlier post the documentary series was called 'Dogfights'."Yup, my mistake, you did name it, it's a good series, I've watched it before. | |||
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