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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then "Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol So do you not agree with the supreme Court? | |||
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"Lets look at this supreme court cases " in a much as every government is an artifical person an abstraction and a creature of mind only a government can interface only with other artifical persons. The imaginary having neither actuality nor substance is forclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government as well as any law agency aspect court etc can concern itself with anything other than corporate artifical persons and the contacts between them Penhallow vs Doane Admin Every man is independent of all laws except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent Cruden vs Neale "You are quoting from another country's legal system! Ahahahahahaha   | |||
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"Lets look at this supreme court cases " in a much as every government is an artifical person an abstraction and a creature of mind only a government can interface only with other artifical persons. The imaginary having neither actuality nor substance is forclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government as well as any law agency aspect court etc can concern itself with anything other than corporate artifical persons and the contacts between them Penhallow vs Doane Admin Every man is independent of all laws except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent Cruden vs Neale
You are quoting from another country's legal system! Ahahahahahaha "Oh why does this not surprise me  | |||
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"Lol CLCC are you saying you don't agree with the supreme Court ruling? Doesn't matter what country it's in That was what the supreme Court ruled " A ha ha ha ha ha ha! The US Supreme Court! A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You think British Acts of Parliament aren't binding, but you think US Supreme Court cases are!!!!! A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! | |||
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"Lol CLCC are you saying you don't agree with the supreme Court ruling? Doesn't matter what country it's in That was what the supreme Court ruled A ha ha ha ha ha ha! The US Supreme Court! A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You think British Acts of Parliament aren't binding, but you think US Supreme Court cases are!!!!! A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "CLCC are you saying you don't agree with the supreme Court ruling? | |||
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"Lol CLCC are you saying you don't agree with the supreme Court ruling? Doesn't matter what country it's in That was what the supreme Court ruled A ha ha ha ha ha ha! The US Supreme Court! A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You think British Acts of Parliament aren't binding, but you think US Supreme Court cases are!!!!! A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
CLCC are you saying you don't agree with the supreme Court ruling?"Fucking Funniest Thread Ever! | |||
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"l CLCC are you saying you don't agree with the supreme Court ruling?" lets me try this really really really slowly.... your arguements are about UK Law..... the things you are quoting come from the US Supreme Court..... UK....... US!!!!!!! UK??????? US!!!!!!! is that clear enough for you?  | |||
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"l CLCC are you saying you don't agree with the supreme Court ruling? lets me try this really really really slowly.... your arguements are about UK Law..... the things you are quoting come from the US Supreme Court..... UK....... US!!!!!!! UK??????? US!!!!!!! is that clear enough for you? "Yea i know but what does it matter what country it is in ? Fabio are you anout to say you dont agree woth the supreme court ruling ? | |||
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"l CLCC are you saying you don't agree with the supreme Court ruling? lets me try this really really really slowly.... your arguements are about UK Law..... the things you are quoting come from the US Supreme Court..... UK....... US!!!!!!! UK??????? US!!!!!!! is that clear enough for you? "For some reason I'm in the mood for a bit of Father Ted tonight | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
"Kinky...you doing research? You're having a laugh! | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
Kinky...you doing research?
You're having a laugh!"They didn't even get the right country! | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
Kinky...you doing research?
You're having a laugh!"Again you believe what you want I dont care lol At least i am willing to stand up for my rights as a sovereign person if you dont thats your choose | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
Kinky...you doing research?
You're having a laugh!
They didn't even get the right country!"Oh i do wonder why your not answering my question lol CLCC do you not agree with the supreme court ruling ? | |||
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" Fabio are you anout to say you dont agree woth the supreme court ruling ?" for some reason I don't think the US Supreme court has had any uk legal interaction since about... oooh... 1776 give or take obviously........ | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
Kinky...you doing research?
You're having a laugh!
They didn't even get the right country!
Oh i do wonder why your not answering my question lol
CLCC do you not agree with the supreme court ruling ?"No, why would I agree with a 250 year old ruling from another country?! Do you pay attention to the supreme courts of Venezuela or Sierra Leone or Laos? I bet you fucking don't! | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
Kinky...you doing research?
You're having a laugh!
Again you believe what you want I dont care lol
At least i am willing to stand up for my rights as a sovereign person if you dont thats your choose "Please try to work on your spelling. | |||
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"Offfttt alot people do NOT like challenge eh Just bow to your masters never challenge them and give away your rights Must never challenge to UK union eh Like i said once you give consent you are bind by their laws and never challenge them Oh well enjoy bending over eh lol No contact no consent " Was just waiting for this mammoth thread to get round to the real issue; it's about independence again. Jeez, how convoluted do you have to make the thread before you bring it back to your only topic of conversation? | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
Kinky...you doing research?
You're having a laugh!
Again you believe what you want I dont care lol
At least i am willing to stand up for my rights as a sovereign person if you dont thats your choose
Please try to work on your spelling. "Fuck me sorry for being dyslexic nice to know you attack about on their spelling | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
Kinky...you doing research?
You're having a laugh!
They didn't even get the right country!
Oh i do wonder why your not answering my question lol
CLCC do you not agree with the supreme court ruling ?
No, why would I agree with a 250 year old ruling from another country?! Do you pay attention to the supreme courts of Venezuela or Sierra Leone or Laos? I bet you fucking don't! "No ? Ah right so the highest courts in countries and you dont agree with them lmao | |||
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"Assuming Kinky is not then bound by UK law, is he free to r*pe, loot and pillage without fear of reprisal? Surely if he is bound by no law then he can do anything he likes. I would certainly watch the court cases closely! "Where you are you getting that from ? Lmao I keep telling you i live under Common law the laws of the land But i dont consent to acts they aint law watch a policeman try and inforce acts on people that know the damn well difference between laws and acts lol If no crime has been commited then you do not have to give them your name The tv licence is an act no consent and they cant do a fucking thing as you didnt enter any contact with them Once you consent to them then and inly then you must abide by their laws | |||
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"Assuming Kinky is not then bound by UK law, is he free to r*pe, loot and pillage without fear of reprisal? Surely if he is bound by no law then he can do anything he likes. I would certainly watch the court cases closely!
Where you are you getting that from ? Lmao
I keep telling you i live under Common law the laws of the land
But i dont consent to acts they aint law watch a policeman try and inforce acts on people that know the damn well difference between laws and acts lol
If no crime has been commited then you do not have to give them your name
The tv licence is an act no consent and they cant do a fucking thing as you didnt enter any contact with them
Once you consent to them then and inly then you must abide by their laws "And how do you consent? I've never signed anything.... | |||
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"Assuming Kinky is not then bound by UK law, is he free to r*pe, loot and pillage without fear of reprisal? Surely if he is bound by no law then he can do anything he likes. I would certainly watch the court cases closely!
Where you are you getting that from ? Lmao
I keep telling you i live under Common law the laws of the land
But i dont consent to acts they aint law watch a policeman try and inforce acts on people that know the damn well difference between laws and acts lol
If no crime has been commited then you do not have to give them your name
The tv licence is an act no consent and they cant do a fucking thing as you didnt enter any contact with them
Once you consent to them then and inly then you must abide by their laws
And how do you consent? I've never signed anything.... "By entering a contract with them | |||
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"Assuming Kinky is not then bound by UK law, is he free to r*pe, loot and pillage without fear of reprisal? Surely if he is bound by no law then he can do anything he likes. I would certainly watch the court cases closely!
Where you are you getting that from ? Lmao
I keep telling you i live under Common law the laws of the land
But i dont consent to acts they aint law watch a policeman try and inforce acts on people that know the damn well difference between laws and acts lol
If no crime has been commited then you do not have to give them your name
The tv licence is an act no consent and they cant do a fucking thing as you didnt enter any contact with them
Once you consent to them then and inly then you must abide by their laws "Incorrect in most respects. TV license violations are now processed under civil law, and you won't be arrested for it. Assume you bring that up because you hate the BBC, probably anti-scottish propaganda or something. I don't know how many policemen actually arrest people for breaking acts. Usually you get arrested for simple things. And no, you don't have to give your name to a policeman. But if he SUSPECTS you of committing, being involved in, or about to commit a crime, and you refuse to divulge your name, then it is grounds for arrest so it can be established. Shouting "I live under common law!" Will do fuck all. Hope this helps. | |||
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"Wikipedia working well for you tonight then
Nope not Wikipedia it's called actually doing research try it lol
Kinky...you doing research?
You're having a laugh!
They didn't even get the right country!
Oh i do wonder why your not answering my question lol
CLCC do you not agree with the supreme court ruling ?
No, why would I agree with a 250 year old ruling from another country?! Do you pay attention to the supreme courts of Venezuela or Sierra Leone or Laos? I bet you fucking don't!
No ?
Ah right so the highest courts in countries and you dont agree with them lmao "These are all UNITED STATES Supreme Court decisions, do you agree with them? Court decisions. 1. Dred Scott v. Sanford (1857): Hands down the worst Supreme Court decision ever, Dred Scott held that African Americans, whether free men or slaves, could not be considered American citizens. The ruling undid the Missouri Compromise, barred laws that would free slaves, and all but guaranteed that there would be no political solution to slavery. The opinion even included a ridiculous "parade of horribles" that would appear if Scott were recognized as a citizen, unspeakable scenarios like African Americans being able to vacation, hold public meetings, and exercise their free speech rights. 2. Buck v. Bell (1927): "Eugenics? Yes, please!" the Court declared in this terrible decision which still stands as good law. In an 8-1 decision written by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, the Court upheld the forced sterilization of those with intellectual disabilities "for the protection and health of the state." Justice Holmes ruled that "society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind" and ended the opinion by declaring that "three generations of imbeciles are enough." 3. Korematsu v. United States (1944): Here, the Supreme Court upheld the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II, finding that the need to protect against espionage outweighed the individual rights of American citizens. In a cruel and ironic twist, this was also the first time the Court applied strict scrutiny to racial discrimination by the U.S. government, belying the idea that strict scrutiny is "strict in theory, fatal in fact." 4. Plessy v. Ferguson (1896): The Court's famous "separate but equal" ruling upheld state segregation laws. In doing so, the Court made sure that the gains of the post-Civil War reconstruction era were quickly replaced by decades of Jim Crow laws. 5. The Civil Rights Cases (1883): Another testament to the Court's failure to protect civil rights, the Civil Rights Cases struck down the Civil Rights Act of 1875. That law sought to ban racial discrimination in businesses and public accommodations. The court, in an 8-1 decision, held that the enforcement provisions of the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments do not allow Congress to prevent non-governmental racial discrimination. It would take over 80 years for the Court to switch course, allowing for the government protection of civil rights in Heart of Atlanta Motel v. U.S -- this time under the Commerce Clause. 6. Bowers v. Hardwick (1986): This decision upheld a discriminatory Georgia sodomy statute that criminalized sexually active gay and lesbian relationships. As Justice Harry Blackmun noted in his dissent, the majority opinion displayed "an almost obsessive focus on homosexual activity." Bowers was overruled in 2003 by Lawrence v. Texas, though unconstitutional anti-sodomy laws still exist in several states. 7. Lochner v. New York (1905): Look, they're not all civil rights cases! In this case, the Supreme Court struck down a New York law limiting bakery work hours to 10 hours a day, finding an implicit "liberty of contract" in the Due Process Clause and giving birth to the Lochner era. 8. Hammer v. Dagenhart (1918): Here, the Court ruled that Congress could not ban child labor in intrastate commerce. Sure, Congress could legislate against gambling and other vices, but whether children were to be kept out of mines and factories was a question only states could decide. 9. Kelo v. City of New London (2005): Taking land from one private party to give it to another is a valid public use under the Takings Clause, the Supreme Court ruled in Kelo. The decision allowed New London to condemn Susette Kelo's land and transfer it to a private developer as part of a "comprehensive redevelopment plan." 10. Lucas v. South Carolina Coastal Commission (1992): A developer purchased vacant lots on South Carolina beaches. The state, seeking to prevent beach erosion, passed a management act which prevented Lucas from building homes on the land. That, according to the Supreme Court, was a total destruction of all "economically viable use" and a per se taking. Not only are the case's factual conclusions implausible, but as UCLA Law professor Jonathan Zasloff notes, the opinion is full of "expressly and needlessly anti-environmental" views. 11. Bush v. Gore (2000): You don't have to be a Democrat to question the wisdom of this Supreme Court case. In a partisan split, the Supreme Court's five Republican appointees halted the recount of contested ballots in Florida, handing the election to George W. Bush. Even Justice Sandra Day O'Connor has come to regret the ruling. 12. Exxon Shipping Co. v. Baker (2008): Want to send a message to corporate wrongdoers? Don't expect the Roberts Court to make it easy. Following the Exxon Valdez oil spill, one of the greatest environmental disasters of the time, and after years and years of litigation, Exxon was finally held responsible for its negligent captain and hit with $5 billion in damages. Then the Supreme Court ruled that Exxon couldn't be subject to punitive damages in excess of compensatory ones, dropping total damages down to $500 million. Not only did Exxon evade billions in damages, the Supreme Court's ruling increased the value of its stock by $23 billion in two days. That was particularly a boon to Justice Alito, who chose to recuse himself from the case because he owned Exxon stock. 13. Citizens United v. FEC (2010): Perhaps the most hated decision from the Roberts Court, Citizens United held that political donations are speech protected by the First Amendment, opening the floodgates to unlimited personal and corporate donations to "super PACs." Though widely unpopular, the ruling isn't going away anytime soon. It would take a constitutional amendment or a new Supreme Court makeup to reverse the decision. * The above is not my own work, but taken from a website that forum rules prevent me from linking | |||
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"Assuming Kinky is not then bound by UK law, is he free to r*pe, loot and pillage without fear of reprisal? Surely if he is bound by no law then he can do anything he likes. I would certainly watch the court cases closely!
Where you are you getting that from ? Lmao
I keep telling you i live under Common law the laws of the land
But i dont consent to acts they aint law watch a policeman try and inforce acts on people that know the damn well difference between laws and acts lol
If no crime has been commited then you do not have to give them your name
The tv licence is an act no consent and they cant do a fucking thing as you didnt enter any contact with them
Once you consent to them then and inly then you must abide by their laws
And how do you consent? I've never signed anything....
By entering a contract with them
"Ah, found your source I think. "Common Law vs Statutes" by Roger Hayes? pjcjournal on wordpress? The one that states in several ways that it is the thoughts of the author and not fact? That one? The one that's a load of waffle from a guy who wishes the system worked differently? You consent by voting or by paying taxes according to parliaments own reply to another libertarian. It states in their response that withdrawal of consent is a matter for political philosophers. | |||
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"Btwget it right their is no UK law Scots law is Scotlands own legal system hehehehe Witch is enshrined in the 1707 treaty " And? (At which point is independence coming into this?) | |||
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"Btwget it right their is no UK law Scots law is Scotlands own legal system hehehehe Witch is enshrined in the 1707 treaty " Yeah? No tax law? Military law? | |||
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"Assuming Kinky is not then bound by UK law, is he free to r*pe, loot and pillage without fear of reprisal? Surely if he is bound by no law then he can do anything he likes. I would certainly watch the court cases closely!
Where you are you getting that from ? Lmao
I keep telling you i live under Common law the laws of the land
But i dont consent to acts they aint law watch a policeman try and inforce acts on people that know the damn well difference between laws and acts lol
If no crime has been commited then you do not have to give them your name
The tv licence is an act no consent and they cant do a fucking thing as you didnt enter any contact with them
Once you consent to them then and inly then you must abide by their laws
Incorrect in most respects.
TV license violations are now processed under civil law, and you won't be arrested for it. Assume you bring that up because you hate the BBC, probably anti-scottish propaganda or something.
I don't know how many policemen actually arrest people for breaking acts. Usually you get arrested for simple things. And no, you don't have to give your name to a policeman. But if he SUSPECTS you of committing, being involved in, or about to commit a crime, and you refuse to divulge your name, then it is grounds for arrest so it can be established.
Shouting "I live under common law!" Will do fuck all.
Hope this helps."And that would be Common law people Loss harm or damage if you or i commit these crimes yes we can be arrested Hope that helps lol Acts are not law they need consent by the governed | |||
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" Fabio are you anout to say you dont agree woth the supreme court ruling ? for some reason I don't think the US Supreme court has had any uk legal interaction since about... oooh... 1776 give or take obviously........" Its comedy gold..
Kinky this is your golden thread, the wrong country..
pmsl.. | |||
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"Btwget it right their is no UK law Scots law is Scotlands own legal system hehehehe Witch is enshrined in the 1707 treaty And? (At which point is independence coming into this?) " Lol just correcting a mistake there is no UK law correct ? scotland does have its own legal law system and no the UK cannot take that away lmao | |||
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"Assuming Kinky is not then bound by UK law, is he free to r*pe, loot and pillage without fear of reprisal? Surely if he is bound by no law then he can do anything he likes. I would certainly watch the court cases closely!
Where you are you getting that from ? Lmao
I keep telling you i live under Common law the laws of the land
But i dont consent to acts they aint law watch a policeman try and inforce acts on people that know the damn well difference between laws and acts lol
If no crime has been commited then you do not have to give them your name
The tv licence is an act no consent and they cant do a fucking thing as you didnt enter any contact with them
Once you consent to them then and inly then you must abide by their laws
Incorrect in most respects.
TV license violations are now processed under civil law, and you won't be arrested for it. Assume you bring that up because you hate the BBC, probably anti-scottish propaganda or something.
I don't know how many policemen actually arrest people for breaking acts. Usually you get arrested for simple things. And no, you don't have to give your name to a policeman. But if he SUSPECTS you of committing, being involved in, or about to commit a crime, and you refuse to divulge your name, then it is grounds for arrest so it can be established.
Shouting "I live under common law!" Will do fuck all.
Hope this helps.
And that would be Common law people
Loss harm or damage if you or i commit these crimes yes we can be arrested
Hope that helps lol
Acts are not law they need consent by the governed "Nope. If you are a publican or off license staff and sell alcohol to a minor, then you break the licensing act and can be arrested. | |||
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"Assuming Kinky is not then bound by UK law, is he free to r*pe, loot and pillage without fear of reprisal? Surely if he is bound by no law then he can do anything he likes. I would certainly watch the court cases closely!
Where you are you getting that from ? Lmao
I keep telling you i live under Common law the laws of the land
But i dont consent to acts they aint law watch a policeman try and inforce acts on people that know the damn well difference between laws and acts lol
If no crime has been commited then you do not have to give them your name
The tv licence is an act no consent and they cant do a fucking thing as you didnt enter any contact with them
Once you consent to them then and inly then you must abide by their laws
And how do you consent? I've never signed anything....
By entering a contract with them
Ah, found your source I think. "Common Law vs Statutes" by Roger Hayes? pjcjournal on wordpress? The one that states in several ways that it is the thoughts of the author and not fact? That one? The one that's a load of waffle from a guy who wishes the system worked differently?
You consent by voting or by paying taxes according to parliaments own reply to another libertarian. It states in their response that withdrawal of consent is a matter for political philosophers. "No everyone votes lmao | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law?" Lol its a supreme court ruling yes in the USA are you saying they supreme court highest courts in countries are in the wrong on their ruling ? Interesting this | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law?" Nothing, kinky just got muddled up! | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law? Lol its a supreme court ruling yes in the USA are you saying they supreme court highest courts in countries are in the wrong on their ruling ? Interesting this " So you agree with "Scott v. Sanford (1857): Hands down the worst Supreme Court decision ever, Dred Scott held that African Americans, whether free men or slaves, could not be considered American citizens." That's what SCOTUS said! | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law? Lol its a supreme court ruling yes in the USA are you saying they supreme court highest courts in countries are in the wrong on their ruling ? Interesting this " in countries yes.. actually in their own countries.. bit like quoting German traffic law in a case which happened in Glasgow.. may raise a few eyebrows and have the judge saying who the fuck is this muppet.. | |||
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"Acts are not law once you give your consent you are entering a contact of which you abide by those laws Statutes come from the laws of the sea come on people know your rights Everyone well i hope everyone abides by Common law if not you are unlawful and could be arrested " Struggling to see where you are going with this thread.  | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law? Lol its a supreme court ruling yes in the USA are you saying they supreme court highest courts in countries are in the wrong on their ruling ? Interesting this in countries yes.. actually in their own countries.. bit like quoting German traffic law in a case which happened in Glasgow.. may raise a few eyebrows and have the judge saying who the fuck is this muppet.. "I actually lol'd | |||
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"Kinky, as you as such a fan of SCOTUS, what do you think of Texas v White? It found that Texas (and the rest of the Confederacy) never left the Union during the Civil War, because a state cannot unilaterally secede from the United States. You must agree that one part of a country can't just unilaterally leave, right? "does it apply in Scotland..? | |||
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"Kinky, as you as such a fan of SCOTUS, what do you think of Texas v White? It found that Texas (and the rest of the Confederacy) never left the Union during the Civil War, because a state cannot unilaterally secede from the United States. You must agree that one part of a country can't just unilaterally leave, right?
does it apply in Scotland..?
"Of course! It's a highest court in some foreign land! | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law? Nothing, kinky just got muddled up! "Got it. When Scotland becomes independent, he wants to join the USA. Therefore he's been studying US law. I win, bring on the next loosely veiled thread. | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law? Nothing, kinky just got muddled up!
Got it. When Scotland becomes independent, he wants to join the USA. Therefore he's been studying US law.
I win, bring on the next loosely veiled thread. "I think you have a much broader definition of "studying" than I do | |||
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"Acts are not law once you give your consent you are entering a contact of which you abide by those laws Statutes come from the laws of the sea come on people know your rights Everyone well i hope everyone abides by Common law if not you are unlawful and could be arrested Struggling to see where you are going with this thread. "To be honest i dont care you believe what you want and give up your rights thats your choice Me i will fight for my rights lol | |||
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"Acts are not law once you give your consent you are entering a contact of which you abide by those laws Statutes come from the laws of the sea come on people know your rights Everyone well i hope everyone abides by Common law if not you are unlawful and could be arrested Struggling to see where you are going with this thread.
To be honest i dont care you believe what you want and give up your rights thats your choice
Me i will fight for my rights lol "yeehaw.. go git em Floyd.. | |||
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"Under what law to you require a tv licence ? Hehehehehehehe Remember its an act you do not need to be in a contact with them or give consent People can opt out of having a tv licence Only when tou abide by their laws which states if you watch live tv or record then you need one if you do not well hey you aint breaking any laws Think people think lol But hey if you wana give them £150 i suppose thats your choice lol" I'm happy to pay my license fee. It's worth it alone for radio 4, I love their news coverage, it's objectives and balanced.  | |||
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"Under what law to you require a tv licence ? Hehehehehehehe Remember its an act you do not need to be in a contact with them or give consent People can opt out of having a tv licence Only when tou abide by their laws which states if you watch live tv or record then you need one if you do not well hey you aint breaking any laws Think people think lol But hey if you wana give them £150 i suppose thats your choice lol" No, you can chose to ignore the act. Doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you and you can't be prosecuted for breaking it. Try saying "I refuse to consent so you can't prosecute me". When they've finished laughing they might tell you why you're wrong. All this to explain why you don't pay your TV license (BBC anti Scottish propaganda probably)? Seriously? | |||
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"Under what law to you require a tv licence ? Hehehehehehehe Remember its an act you do not need to be in a contact with them or give consent People can opt out of having a tv licence Only when tou abide by their laws which states if you watch live tv or record then you need one if you do not well hey you aint breaking any laws Think people think lol But hey if you wana give them £150 i suppose thats your choice lol I'm happy to pay my license fee. It's worth it alone for radio 4, I love their news coverage, it's objectives and balanced. "And thats your choice you have entered a contact with the BBC and given them consent so your are abided by their laws now I do not require a tv licence as i dont watch live tv its pish and its not really live anyway lol so i aint breaking no laws Btw was the BBC coverage of 9/11 balanced ? I remember they claimed building 7 was down but in their news feed it was still standing lol I believe someone took them to court over that | |||
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"Btwget it right their is no UK law Scots law is Scotlands own legal system hehehehe Witch is enshrined in the 1707 treaty " so why the fuck are you quoting the US supreme court then????? I would say you are "Bat shit crazy"... but that would be offensive...to Bats! | |||
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"Under what law to you require a tv licence ? Hehehehehehehe Remember its an act you do not need to be in a contact with them or give consent People can opt out of having a tv licence Only when tou abide by their laws which states if you watch live tv or record then you need one if you do not well hey you aint breaking any laws Think people think lol But hey if you wana give them £150 i suppose thats your choice lol No, you can chose to ignore the act. Doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you and you can't be prosecuted for breaking it. Try saying "I refuse to consent so you can't prosecute me". When they've finished laughing they might tell you why you're wrong. All this to explain why you don't pay your TV license (BBC anti Scottish propaganda probably)? Seriously? " or just plead the 5th amendment.. | |||
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"Under what law to you require a tv licence ? Hehehehehehehe Remember its an act you do not need to be in a contact with them or give consent People can opt out of having a tv licence Only when tou abide by their laws which states if you watch live tv or record then you need one if you do not well hey you aint breaking any laws Think people think lol But hey if you wana give them £150 i suppose thats your choice lol I'm happy to pay my license fee. It's worth it alone for radio 4, I love their news coverage, it's objectives and balanced.
And thats your choice you have entered a contact with the BBC and given them consent so your are abided by their laws now
I do not require a tv licence as i dont watch live tv its pish and its not really live anyway lol so i aint breaking no laws
Btw was the BBC coverage of 9/11 balanced ? I remember they claimed building 7 was down but in their news feed it was still standing lol
I believe someone took them to court over that "No, I have no contract with the BBC, and they are not the only recipient of the licence fee. Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to use or install TV receiving equipment to: watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV or live on an online TV service, including programmes streamed over the internet and satellite programmes from outside the UK, or watch or download BBC programmes on demand, including catch up TV, on BBC iPlayer without being covered by a TV Licence. The Act empowers the BBC to make and amend the terms and conditions of a licence. It allows the government to make regulations to exempt or reduce the licence fee for certain persons in certain circumstances. It also makes it an offence for anyone to have any TV receiving equipment in their possession or under their control who intends to use or install it in contravention of the main offence (above), or knows, or has reasonable grounds for believing, that another person intends to install or use a TV receiving equipment in contravention of the main offence. The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 define what is a 'television set.' The regulations also set out the various types of TV Licence, the criteria for obtaining them, the fees payable for them (including the frequency and amount of instalments) and the different concessions available, including concessions for people who are blind (severely sight impaired), people who are over 74 years of age, people who live in residential care and people who run hotels, guesthouses or campsites. | |||
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"Btwget it right their is no UK law Scots law is Scotlands own legal system hehehehe Witch is enshrined in the 1707 treaty so why the fuck are you quoting the US supreme court then????? I would say you are "Bat shit crazy"... but that would be offensive...to Bats!" Do you not agree with that supreme court ruling ? | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law? Lol its a supreme court ruling yes in the USA are you saying they supreme court highest courts in countries are in the wrong on their ruling ? Interesting this So you agree with "Scott v. Sanford (1857): Hands down the worst Supreme Court decision ever, Dred Scott held that African Americans, whether free men or slaves, could not be considered American citizens." That's what SCOTUS said! " Kinky, do you agree with this ruling? | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? " Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao" No, I wasn't aware that you could face a £1,000 fine for not registering to vote. Can you give me a link to the government website that says this? | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao" i could quote you australian law... where it is mandatory for everyone to vote..... can i just pluck random world laws now to suit my opinions.... | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao No, I wasn't aware that you could face a £1,000 fine for not registering to vote. Can you give me a link to the government website that says this? " Look it up lol You dont lazy now hehehe | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao No, I wasn't aware that you could face a £1,000 fine for not registering to vote. Can you give me a link to the government website that says this? Look it up lol You dont lazy now hehehe " I did, I couldn't find anything to support your assertion that you will be fined for not registering. | |||
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" in countries yes.. actually in their own countries.. bit like quoting German traffic law in a case which happened in Glasgow.. " off for a joyride down the M8..... No speed limit i hear!!!! | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao No, I wasn't aware that you could face a £1,000 fine for not registering to vote. Can you give me a link to the government website that says this? Look it up lol You dont lazy now hehehe I did, I couldn't find anything to support your assertion that you will be fined for not registering. " "Could be fine" very important wording | |||
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" in countries yes.. actually in their own countries.. bit like quoting German traffic law in a case which happened in Glasgow.. off for a joyride down the M8..... No speed limit i hear!!!! "Oh hope in your own car lol Would you be travelling or driving ? | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao No, I wasn't aware that you could face a £1,000 fine for not registering to vote. Can you give me a link to the government website that says this? Look it up lol You dont lazy now hehehe I did, I couldn't find anything to support your assertion that you will be fined for not registering. "Could be fine" very important wording " What?! Do you mean "could be fined"? Provide the link, or admit you are talking crap again. | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao No, I wasn't aware that you could face a £1,000 fine for not registering to vote. Can you give me a link to the government website that says this? Look it up lol You dont lazy now hehehe I did, I couldn't find anything to support your assertion that you will be fined for not registering. "Could be fine" very important wording What?! Do you mean "could be fined"? Provide the link, or admit you are talking crap again." Could be fined they may or may not fine you You go look it up stop being so lazy lol What cause you dont like it i have to admit talking crap Ok you have problem believing me debunk me then Maybe this way you will educate yourself by doing it yourself of do always want people doing things for you lmao | |||
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"Do you really believe you you are made to register to vote ? Oh no they are gona fine you for not choosing to register to vote lmao Who has said that you will get fined? Can you give us the quote? Wow just wow lol So you claiming they do not tell you that you could face a fine of a £1,000 if you do not register ? Wow just wow And you think you know all eh lol Under what law again do you need to register to vote ? Lmao No, I wasn't aware that you could face a £1,000 fine for not registering to vote. Can you give me a link to the government website that says this? Look it up lol You dont lazy now hehehe I did, I couldn't find anything to support your assertion that you will be fined for not registering. "Could be fine" very important wording What?! Do you mean "could be fined"? Provide the link, or admit you are talking crap again. Could be fined they may or may not fine you You go look it up stop being so lazy lol What cause you dont like it i have to admit talking crap Ok you have problem believing me debunk me then Maybe this way you will educate yourself by doing it yourself of do always want people doing things for you lmao" So you can't provide the link then | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law? Lol its a supreme court ruling yes in the USA are you saying they supreme court highest courts in countries are in the wrong on their ruling ? Interesting this So you agree with "Scott v. Sanford (1857): Hands down the worst Supreme Court decision ever, Dred Scott held that African Americans, whether free men or slaves, could not be considered American citizens." That's what SCOTUS said! Kinky, do you agree with this ruling?" Kinky, you still haven't answered if you agree with this ruling or not. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud " | |||
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"So what is your argument? You are obliged to register to vote and you risk being fined if you do not vote. Why would you not want to vote and have your say? Why would you not want to be on the Electoral Register in the modern world? " Its a choice is it not ? We live a democracy Oh right so now your obliged now under what law is that again ? Hehe just trying to simply educate its upto you if you wanna take thst on board or not lol | |||
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"So what is your argument? You are obliged to register to vote and you risk being fined if you do not vote. Why would you not want to vote and have your say? Why would you not want to be on the Electoral Register in the modern world? " Our neighbours are conscientious objectors to our form of democracy (they are PR supporters) and they have never voted and have refused to go on the electoral register. As a matter of interest, they get virtually no junk mail compared to what the rest of us get. He says that in his opinion, the electoral register is just a money making database and he refuses to be a part of it until his vote can actually count for something. | |||
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"So what is your argument? You are obliged to register to vote and you risk being fined if you do not vote. Why would you not want to vote and have your say? Why would you not want to be on the Electoral Register in the modern world? Our neighbours are conscientious objectors to our form of democracy (they are PR supporters) and they have never voted and have refused to go on the electoral register. As a matter of interest, they get virtually no junk mail compared to what the rest of us get. He says that in his opinion, the electoral register is just a money making database and he refuses to be a part of it until his vote can actually count for something." Well he will find it very difficult to sign up for credit, utility supplies, mobile phone contracts, hire cars etc, as they all use credit reference agencies and one of the checks they do is to verify you at your address, and they use the Electoral Register to do that. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud " Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol | |||
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"I can’t believe I’m actually going to feed the troll, but here we go... There are lots of UK-wide laws. Yes, there is Scots law, however Scots law includes a number of Acts that ar UK law. The Road Traffic Act 1988 is just one of many examples. You still don’t understand what ‘policing by consent’ means. You also don’t understand that you have agreed to abide by all laws that are passed by continuing to live here. If you don’t want to abide by the laws, you don’t want them to affect you, you are welcome to leave. As with everyone else who spouts the same nonsense; you simply do not understand what you are talking about. You’ve read the words of someone else who doesn’t know what they’re talking about, and you’d like to believe it." This is 100% correct. I said the same thing in the 1st thread hours ago. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol" Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. | |||
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"Found on www.gov.uk it's the only thing this fool has said that is right What happens if you don’t register You must register to vote if you’re asked to do so and you meet the conditions for registering, eg you’re 16 or over and you’re British or a national of an EU or Commonwealth country. If you’re asked to register and don’t do so, your local Electoral Registration Office could fine you £80. You won’t be fined if you have a valid reason for not registering, eg a long stay in hospital, or you have severe learning difficulties." Kinky says it's £1,000 though. | |||
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"You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. " I aint a women dude lol I am male lol Like i said your parents told you But how do " you " know when you were born Your parents told you Santa was real that was a lie lol | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information." And the birth certificate is never to used as evidence correct ? So who in the hell do " you" know you when you were born ? | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information." I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. And the birth certificate is never to used as evidence correct ? So who in the hell do " you" know you when you were born ?" Evidence of what? Of course it is used as evidence of your birth, sex, name, date and place of birth, and your mother's identity, and your father's if his name is on the certificate. | |||
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"What has usa law got to do with UK law? Lol its a supreme court ruling yes in the USA are you saying they supreme court highest courts in countries are in the wrong on their ruling ? Interesting this So you agree with "Scott v. Sanford (1857): Hands down the worst Supreme Court decision ever, Dred Scott held that African Americans, whether free men or slaves, could not be considered American citizens." That's what SCOTUS said! Kinky, do you agree with this ruling? Kinky, you still haven't answered if you agree with this ruling or not." Come on Kinky, do you have have to balls to answer this question? Can African Americans ever be considered American citizens? That should be easy enough to answer for any normal person. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. " They NHS only record it for their records. You are still obliged to record the birth formally at your local Register Office. The NHS do not do that for you, and it is an offence if you do not. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. And the birth certificate is never to used as evidence correct ? So who in the hell do " you" know you when you were born ? Evidence of what? Of course it is used as evidence of your birth, sex, name, date and place of birth, and your mother's identity, and your father's if his name is on the certificate." Oooffftttt shhhhh dont ever say that your going to commit fraud The birth certifcate is not to be used for evidence is crown owed Look at the top left and bottom left of your birth centifcate You as a man can never know your DOB you are told by your parents But like i said your pRents told you Santa was real lol | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. They NHS only record it for their records. You are still obliged to record the birth formally at your local Register Office. The NHS do not do that for you, and it is an offence if you do not. " What I'm saying is that when you register the birth, they already have another system to check against. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. They NHS only record it for their records. You are still obliged to record the birth formally at your local Register Office. The NHS do not do that for you, and it is an offence if you do not. What I'm saying is that when you register the birth, they already have another system to check against. " If only! The NHS doesn't even have a nationwide computer system for everything! One NHS Trust cannot see what is on the system at another! Internal systems can be different for different departments. There is no way that the Register Office can see the NHS system. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. And the birth certificate is never to used as evidence correct ? So who in the hell do " you" know you when you were born ? Evidence of what? Of course it is used as evidence of your birth, sex, name, date and place of birth, and your mother's identity, and your father's if his name is on the certificate. Oooffftttt shhhhh dont ever say that your going to commit fraud The birth certifcate is not to be used for evidence is crown owed Look at the top left and bottom left of your birth centifcate You as a man can never know your DOB you are told by your parents But like i said your pRents told you Santa was real lol " You couldn't answer this before, so I don't expect you to answer it now, but my wife doesn't have a UK birth certificate, so it's not owned by the Crown. So does that mean she has a different set of laws to follow despite the fact that she is a UK citizen? The same as you and me. Also, you haven't answered if African Americans can be American citizens, or if you agree that unilateral declarations of independence are illegal as ruled by both the Spanish and American supreme courts (and probably many more). | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. And the birth certificate is never to used as evidence correct ? So who in the hell do " you" know you when you were born ? Evidence of what? Of course it is used as evidence of your birth, sex, name, date and place of birth, and your mother's identity, and your father's if his name is on the certificate. Oooffftttt shhhhh dont ever say that your going to commit fraud The birth certifcate is not to be used for evidence is crown owed Look at the top left and bottom left of your birth centifcate You as a man can never know your DOB you are told by your parents But like i said your pRents told you Santa was real lol " So why are you asked to provide your birth certificate by government departments and official bodies? | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. They NHS only record it for their records. You are still obliged to record the birth formally at your local Register Office. The NHS do not do that for you, and it is an offence if you do not. What I'm saying is that when you register the birth, they already have another system to check against. If only! The NHS doesn't even have a nationwide computer system for everything! One NHS Trust cannot see what is on the system at another! Internal systems can be different for different departments. There is no way that the Register Office can see the NHS system. " I can only tell you my experience, and the registry office knew things that we had told the hospital, but not told the registry office. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. They NHS only record it for their records. You are still obliged to record the birth formally at your local Register Office. The NHS do not do that for you, and it is an offence if you do not. What I'm saying is that when you register the birth, they already have another system to check against. If only! The NHS doesn't even have a nationwide computer system for everything! One NHS Trust cannot see what is on the system at another! Internal systems can be different for different departments. There is no way that the Register Office can see the NHS system. I can only tell you my experience, and the registry office knew things that we had told the hospital, but not told the registry office. " That just is not true. There is no linked computer system, and even if there was, the hospital have a duty of confidentiality. There is no way they are allowed to tell the Register Office, which is run by the Council. They cannot tell the Police most things about a patient, except in very limited circumstances. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. And the birth certificate is never to used as evidence correct ? So who in the hell do " you" know you when you were born ? Evidence of what? Of course it is used as evidence of your birth, sex, name, date and place of birth, and your mother's identity, and your father's if his name is on the certificate. Oooffftttt shhhhh dont ever say that your going to commit fraud The birth certifcate is not to be used for evidence is crown owed Look at the top left and bottom left of your birth centifcate You as a man can never know your DOB you are told by your parents But like i said your pRents told you Santa was real lol So why are you asked to provide your birth certificate by government departments and official bodies?" Have you ? Infact dont answer wouldnt want to commit fraud As i said its crown owed thats the legal entity And for you to use that is a big no no but thats your choice You are commit fraud if you use it for your name and DOB You were given a name and told by your parents when your DOB was lol | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. They NHS only record it for their records. You are still obliged to record the birth formally at your local Register Office. The NHS do not do that for you, and it is an offence if you do not. What I'm saying is that when you register the birth, they already have another system to check against. If only! The NHS doesn't even have a nationwide computer system for everything! One NHS Trust cannot see what is on the system at another! Internal systems can be different for different departments. There is no way that the Register Office can see the NHS system. I can only tell you my experience, and the registry office knew things that we had told the hospital, but not told the registry office. That just is not true. There is no linked computer system, and even if there was, the hospital have a duty of confidentiality. There is no way they are allowed to tell the Register Office, which is run by the Council. They cannot tell the Police most things about a patient, except in very limited circumstances." Again, I can only tell you my experience. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. And the birth certificate is never to used as evidence correct ? So who in the hell do " you" know you when you were born ? Evidence of what? Of course it is used as evidence of your birth, sex, name, date and place of birth, and your mother's identity, and your father's if his name is on the certificate. Oooffftttt shhhhh dont ever say that your going to commit fraud The birth certifcate is not to be used for evidence is crown owed Look at the top left and bottom left of your birth centifcate You as a man can never know your DOB you are told by your parents But like i said your pRents told you Santa was real lol So why are you asked to provide your birth certificate by government departments and official bodies? Have you ? Infact dont answer wouldnt want to commit fraud As i said its crown owed thats the legal entity And for you to use that is a big no no but thats your choice You are commit fraud if you use it for your name and DOB You were given a name and told by your parents when your DOB was lol " It is not Crown owned. It's not even produced by the Crown, but the local Council, in their Register Office. And of course I have had to produce it! You have to, to apply for your 1st passport, and you have to produce it to get married! | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. They NHS only record it for their records. You are still obliged to record the birth formally at your local Register Office. The NHS do not do that for you, and it is an offence if you do not. What I'm saying is that when you register the birth, they already have another system to check against. If only! The NHS doesn't even have a nationwide computer system for everything! One NHS Trust cannot see what is on the system at another! Internal systems can be different for different departments. There is no way that the Register Office can see the NHS system. I can only tell you my experience, and the registry office knew things that we had told the hospital, but not told the registry office. That just is not true. There is no linked computer system, and even if there was, the hospital have a duty of confidentiality. There is no way they are allowed to tell the Register Office, which is run by the Council. They cannot tell the Police most things about a patient, except in very limited circumstances. Again, I can only tell you my experience. " You are mistaken. If you were right then there was be massive implications for Data Protection and patient confidentiality. The CQC, the Department of Health and the Local Commissioners would launch major investigations. | |||
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"Back to the birth certificate hehehe This is some laugh Right again its not to be ised for evidence You are not born when your mother's waters break. Surely as a woman you should know that. You are born at the end of the period of labour, not before it even starts. And most mother's know the exact time of the birth. It is important to them and something that they rarely forget. Most births take place in a hospital or in the presence of a midwife and the date and time of birth are recorded. And you cannot ever know when your DOB is as you will never know when you came out your moms waters Your parents told you when you were born but then again your parents are liars as they told you Santa was real and the tooth fairy and easter bunny To have hearsay on your DOB is fraud Again you were told by your parents But who could "you"ever know ? Your parents lied to you about Santa right ? Lol Your parents register the birth. It is an offence to provide false information. I recently went through the process and it was an eye opener for me. I had thought that registering the birth was the first step in making sure the little person was all properly recorded, but it's not. It's actually the NHS that first record the birth, take the name, create a record, assign and NHS number etc. When you register the birth, you are actually just confirming the NHS details are correct. I found it bizarre that the parents don't have to provide any ID proving who they are, so I asked the registrar what's to stop us coming in and saying we are David Beckham and Posh Spice, thus giving our little one a bona fide birth certificate with their names on. She told us that all the information is already recorded from the NHS, and that's why you don't need to provide proof of ID. They NHS only record it for their records. You are still obliged to record the birth formally at your local Register Office. The NHS do not do that for you, and it is an offence if you do not. What I'm saying is that when you register the birth, they already have another system to check against. If only! The NHS doesn't even have a nationwide computer system for everything! One NHS Trust cannot see what is on the system at another! Internal systems can be different for different departments. There is no way that the Register Office can see the NHS system. I can only tell you my experience, and the registry office knew things that we had told the hospital, but not told the registry office. That just is not true. There is no linked computer system, and even if there was, the hospital have a duty of confidentiality. There is no way they are allowed to tell the Register Office, which is run by the Council. They cannot tell the Police most things about a patient, except in very limited circumstances. Again, I can only tell you my experience. You are mistaken. If you were right then there was be massive implications for Data Protection and patient confidentiality. The CQC, the Department of Health and the Local Commissioners would launch major investigations." Okie cokie. | |||
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"So what is your argument? You are obliged to register to vote and you risk being fined if you do not vote. Why would you not want to vote and have your say? Why would you not want to be on the Electoral Register in the modern world? Our neighbours are conscientious objectors to our form of democracy (they are PR supporters) and they have never voted and have refused to go on the electoral register. As a matter of interest, they get virtually no junk mail compared to what the rest of us get. He says that in his opinion, the electoral register is just a money making database and he refuses to be a part of it until his vote can actually count for something. Well he will find it very difficult to sign up for credit, utility supplies, mobile phone contracts, hire cars etc, as they all use credit reference agencies and one of the checks they do is to verify you at your address, and they use the Electoral Register to do that. " He is in his mid fifties, nice big house (mortgage), two cars, three kids and all of the normal attributes of modern living. I happen to think that we have all been bullied with threats (like you have alluded to) into registering. He (they) appear to have zero negative effects by not being on the electoral register and I can’t see if (as you say) they would have had restrictions - how have they got by perfectly normally for the last 25 years of their married lives? They got the IPhone X before we did! | |||
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"So what is your argument? You are obliged to register to vote and you risk being fined if you do not vote. Why would you not want to vote and have your say? Why would you not want to be on the Electoral Register in the modern world? Our neighbours are conscientious objectors to our form of democracy (they are PR supporters) and they have never voted and have refused to go on the electoral register. As a matter of interest, they get virtually no junk mail compared to what the rest of us get. He says that in his opinion, the electoral register is just a money making database and he refuses to be a part of it until his vote can actually count for something. Well he will find it very difficult to sign up for credit, utility supplies, mobile phone contracts, hire cars etc, as they all use credit reference agencies and one of the checks they do is to verify you at your address, and they use the Electoral Register to do that. He is in his mid fifties, nice big house (mortgage), two cars, three kids and all of the normal attributes of modern living. I happen to think that we have all been bullied with threats (like you have alluded to) into registering. He (they) appear to have zero negative effects by not being on the electoral register and I can’t see if (as you say) they would have had restrictions - how have they got by perfectly normally for the last 25 years of their married lives? They got the IPhone X before we did!" They have probably registered now. And how foolish to have to pay a fortune in tax, and Council tax, and not to have a say in how the money is spent by voting for MPs, MEPs and local Councillors of your choosing, if for no other reason. | |||
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"You can register to vote and keep your details off the electoral register " Not totally though. You can be kept off the open register - the one that they sell to the junk mail mob, but not the Full Register. Credit reference agencies and others have access to the Full Register. | |||
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"I hope you do not get done for fraud then Like i have said before you can never know when you were born you were sinply told by your parents Just the same as your parents told you Santa was real Also you were given a name by your parents So you do not own the name the name on the birth certifcate is a legal entity " Your birth certificate is a legally accepted document. It is produced by the Register Office. There is no fraud in using it. You are expected to use it. | |||
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"I’ll add ‘hearsay’ to the list of words and concepts that kinky doesn’t understand." It's a very long list! | |||
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"I hope you do not get done for fraud then Like i have said before you can never know when you were born you were sinply told by your parents Just the same as your parents told you Santa was real Also you were given a name by your parents So you do not own the name the name on the birth certifcate is a legal entity Your birth certificate is a legally accepted document. It is produced by the Register Office. There is no fraud in using it. You are expected to use it. " I hope for your sake you never admit to that It is fraud as again you as a man can never ever know your DOB as you were told by your parents And you were given a name by your parents correct ? You dont own the name lol | |||
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"I hope you do not get done for fraud then Like i have said before you can never know when you were born you were sinply told by your parents Just the same as your parents told you Santa was real Also you were given a name by your parents So you do not own the name the name on the birth certifcate is a legal entity Your birth certificate is a legally accepted document. It is produced by the Register Office. There is no fraud in using it. You are expected to use it. I hope for your sake you never admit to that It is fraud as again you as a man can never ever know your DOB as you were told by your parents And you were given a name by your parents correct ? You dont own the name lol " Of course it isn't fraud. A birth certificate is a legal document. And I told you that no one owns their name, hours ago on the previous thread. | |||
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"Ok here is prove that the birth certifcate cannot be used as evidence look at the very bottom and what does it say ? Lmao https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&biw=375&bih=553&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=YauxWumTAYKYgAatzI_ACA&q=birth+certificate+uk&oq=birth+certificate+uk&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.1.0.0l5.44567.45123..46302...0....63.177.3..........1..mobile-gws-wiz-img.......0i67.MvMv2mMCaBY%3D#imgrc=0GtdaEcHxnQNcM:" I don't need some Google link! I used mine to get a Passport and can use it to get married. What more proof do I need! The Government Passport Agency and the Church/Register Office will accept it. That is proof enough! | |||
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"Ok here is prove that the birth certifcate cannot be used as evidence look at the very bottom and what does it say ? Lmao https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&biw=375&bih=553&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=YauxWumTAYKYgAatzI_ACA&q=birth+certificate+uk&oq=birth+certificate+uk&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.1.0.0l5.44567.45123..46302...0....63.177.3..........1..mobile-gws-wiz-img.......0i67.MvMv2mMCaBY%3D#imgrc=0GtdaEcHxnQNcM: I don't need some Google link! I used mine to get a Passport and can use it to get married. What more proof do I need! The Government Passport Agency and the Church/Register Office will accept it. That is proof enough!" Offftt didnt like that eh Its not to be used as evidence and says crown copyright who is right ? Lol | |||
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"Ps just to add to that boys and girls it also says crown copyright Your all welcome Now who is gona say i am now lying about the birth certifate ? I told you to go look at your own before commenting lol " The Crown copyright applies to the layout, style and form of the document, not the contents! | |||
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"Ok here is prove that the birth certifcate cannot be used as evidence look at the very bottom and what does it say ? Lmao" This is another example of you not understanding something you have read. What that sentence means that the person in possession of the document isn’t necessarily the person described in the document. It is not photographic identification. Also, the royal family don’t have a surname, because they’re the royal family. They use surnames for marketing, basically. Most of them use ‘Windsor’ because that is the (new) name of their house, but Charles uses the surname Wales. They’re actually the house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, changed during the Great War because it sounded too German. They picked the name of their favourite castle; Windsor. It’s a rare example of a family taking their name from a castle and not the other way around. But, much like most of your posts, the things you write no more prove your various, shifting, transient, ephemeral ‘points’ than the existence of elephants prove that UFOs exist. | |||
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"No, it’s not my choice, it’s fact. The fact that you use a phrase like, “The laws of the sea,” shows that you don’t know what you’re talking about. You watch a video and, because you think the narrator sounds like he knows what he’s talking about, and uses words and phrases you don’t understand, he must be right. You’re still bandying around the word ‘consent’ in the misguided belief that individuals must consent to be subject to certain laws. I know how much you want to believe that, but it’s not the case. You are subject to all of the laws of the land, be it common law or Acts of parliament, regardless of whether you want to be or not." No your not acts aint law and acts need the consent of the governed If you dont wanna stand up for your rights and bend over hey thats you | |||
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"No your not acts aint law and acts need the consent of the governed" Ok, since you keep on claiming this, I’m going to have to ask for evidence. Now, I won’t accept YouTube videos or blog websites but, since you're a master of research, finding one of the following two things should be no problem: 1) A book, written by one or more people with a degree in law, which supports your claim. OR 2) A practicing solicitor who agrees with your claim. | |||
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"No your not acts aint law and acts need the consent of the governed Ok, since you keep on claiming this, I’m going to have to ask for evidence. Now, I won’t accept YouTube videos or blog websites but, since you're a master of research, finding one of the following two things should be no problem: 1) A book, written by one or more people with a degree in law, which supports your claim. OR 2) A practicing solicitor who agrees with your claim." Acts/ statutes came from - maritime law / Admiralty law laws of the sea Common law laws of the land they only laws you stand it should stand under Acts need your consent | |||
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"That’s not evidence." Oh am sorry i forgot i dont have to lol Its upto you to believe it or not i dont care lol If you dont wana stand up for your rights thats your choice | |||
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"Yet again Kinky proving he has absolutely no fucking idea what he is talking about. " He believes in Scotland and is fighting for independence, he has a purpose in life what do you have? | |||
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"Yet again Kinky proving he has absolutely no fucking idea what he is talking about. He believes in Scotland and is fighting for independence, he has a purpose in life what do you have?" Yea good one so I have to justify my existence to a random profile on a swinging site. | |||
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"Yet again Kinky proving he has absolutely no fucking idea what he is talking about. He believes in Scotland and is fighting for independence, he has a purpose in life what do you have?" No he's not, unless that particular battleground has moved to the forum of a swinger site. He's just posting long drawn out threads which eventually all lead to independence. Like this one, where he eventually says he doesn't consent to the act which enables governance from Westminster, and therefore all Scots have to do is withdraw their consent to be independent. Am I close? | |||
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"Tax law is not common law, yet we all have to pay taxes or face the consequences. Kinky, do you pay your taxes?" there are many ways to legally avoid paying taxes | |||
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"Tax law is not common law, yet we all have to pay taxes or face the consequences. Kinky, do you pay your taxes? there are many ways to legally avoid paying taxes" "tax avoidance noun the arrangement of one's financial affairs to minimize tax liability within the law." Why would you need to do that if tax law isn't really a law, and doesn't need to be followed as per kinky's assertion? | |||
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"What about the Official Secrets Act? You don't have to have signed the act to be prosecuted under it? Ginger " Kinky is trying to make the point that you are given the option of complying with an act. For example, buying a telly. When you buy one you are implicitly consenting to the communications act which means you pay your TV license. (He might not like it but it's true) Same with the official secrets act. When you take on a role that requires it you are usually informed and sign your consent to be covered by it. Otherwise you don't get the role. But ultimately he is trying to say that he's not covered by the act of union as he doesn't consent to it. Yawn. | |||
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"Ps The queen is Elizabeth from the house of Windsor correct ? Her legal entity name is Elizabeth Windsor correct ? Hehehe your all welcome Crown owned dont believe me look up your own birth certifcate lol" The name was changed from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the English Windsor in 1917 because of anti-German sentiment in the British Empire during World War I but we will let your mistakes slide once again....... | |||
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"What about the Official Secrets Act? You don't have to have signed the act to be prosecuted under it? Ginger Kinky is trying to make the point that you are given the option of complying with an act. For example, buying a telly. When you buy one you are implicitly consenting to the communications act which means you pay your TV license. (He might not like it but it's true) Same with the official secrets act. When you take on a role that requires it you are usually informed and sign your consent to be covered by it. Otherwise you don't get the role. But ultimately he is trying to say that he's not covered by the act of union as he doesn't consent to it. Yawn. "I was trying to make the point that you don't actually need to sign the official secrets act, yes they make you sign it if the role requires it, but you can still be prosecuted under that act if you haven't signed or consented to it, more as an example of where Kinky's argument is flawed - not that they needed any help there... | |||
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"Your a person on a different planet kinky but hey crack on.. " prime example of why not to sniff glue....... | |||
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"Tax law is not common law, yet we all have to pay taxes or face the consequences. Kinky, do you pay your taxes?" An extremely simple question, that is too hard for Kinky to answer because it blows their argument out of the water, in their language, it debunks them. | |||
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"Your a person on a different planet kinky but hey crack on.. " What because i stand up for my rights oh well lol | |||
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"so is the scotland act not law then? what about the devolution act? " Or sister act..?  | |||
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"Tax law is not common law, yet we all have to pay taxes or face the consequences. Kinky, do you pay your taxes? An extremely simple question, that is too hard for Kinky to answer because it blows their argument out of the water, in their language, it debunks them." Excuse me but you are not going into peoples private lives and you do not need to know a damn thing just like i dont need to know about your private life | |||
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"I told you and told you I really do not give a flying fuck if you lot do not believe me about Acts are not law or not Its fact you can choose to believe that or not i dont care lol You wana give up your rights thats on you i wont I am a human being and not a person and as a human being i stand under Common law the real law not made up acts and statutes that need your consent Like i keep saying once you give them consent you wave goodbye and need to abide by their laws " So you stand under Common Law. How is Common Law made? Who makes Common Law? | |||
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"Your a person on a different planet kinky but hey crack on.. What because i stand up for my rights oh well lol " Nothing wrong with that at all but your wrong constantly and despite being shown that you won't listen.. It's either delusional behavior or something else.. | |||
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"Tax law is not common law, yet we all have to pay taxes or face the consequences. Kinky, do you pay your taxes? An extremely simple question, that is too hard for Kinky to answer because it blows their argument out of the water, in their language, it debunks them. Excuse me but you are not going into peoples private lives and you do not need to know a damn thing just like i dont need to know about your private life " Kinky, you pay taxes. You can't go into Tesco and refuse to pay the VAT. You can't fill up at BP and refuse to pay for the duty and tax. You can't refuse to pay your road Tax, and continue to drive around regardless. If you work, your taxes are moat likely deducted at source, so your income tax and NI is taken from you, regardless of you "consenting" or not. You have been thoroughly DEBUNKED! | |||
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