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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act " I trust the Tories not to because I have never heard or read anything by any Tory expressing any wish or desire to remove powers from Scotland. Do you read anything other than the national, wings and Bella ??? | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act I trust the Tories not to because I have never heard or read anything by any Tory expressing any wish or desire to remove powers from Scotland. Do you read anything other than the national, wings and Bella ???" And if the did take devolved powers back would you be pissed off ? | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act " It wouldn't if they repealed it. | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act It wouldn't if they repealed it." Yes it would So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ? | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act It wouldn't if they repealed it. Yes it would So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ?" Yes. | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act It wouldn't if they repealed it. Yes it would So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ? Yes. " And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ? | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act It wouldn't if they repealed it. Yes it would So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ? Yes. And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ?" Nope. | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act It wouldn't if they repealed it. Yes it would So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ? Yes. And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ? Nope." So you dont care about Scotland good good See i knew you were anti Scottish I will remind you it was Labour that brough in devolution | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act It wouldn't if they repealed it. Yes it would So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ? Yes. And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ? Nope. So you dont care about Scotland good good See i knew you were anti Scottish I will remind you it was Labour that brough in devolution " Why is that anti-scottish? | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act It wouldn't if they repealed it. Yes it would So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ? Yes. And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ? Nope. So you dont care about Scotland good good See i knew you were anti Scottish I will remind you it was Labour that brough in devolution Why is that anti-scottish?" Why ? Oh i dont know maybe because ........... You dont seem to care about devolved powers going into Tory hands What is it because England voted Tory you want Scotland to suffer too ? | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act It wouldn't if they repealed it. Yes it would So CLCC do you trust the Tories not to take devolved powers away ? Yes. And if they do take devolved powers away would you care ? Nope. So you dont care about Scotland good good See i knew you were anti Scottish I will remind you it was Labour that brough in devolution Why is that anti-scottish? Why ? Oh i dont know maybe because ........... You dont seem to care about devolved powers going into Tory hands What is it because England voted Tory you want Scotland to suffer too ?" The UK voted Tory, not just England. I don't care, but you are talking about a purely hypothetical. There has been devolution for 20 years, as far as I am aware, there is no party big enough to have even a single MP, who have ever suggested taking any powers whatsoever away from Scotland. Please correct me if I'm wrong, and tell me, which party has said they will take powers away from Scotland? | |||
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"No the UK didnt vote Tory Again England voted a Tory majority Scotland voted for a SNP majority Wales voted for a Labour majority NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland Yes you anti Scottish!!!!!" The UK did vote Tory. Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening? Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland? | |||
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"Shut up kinky with your anti Scottish nonsense just because someone doesn't agree with you. As us Scottish say "your patter is pish". Post after post of utter garbage with everyone providing suffeciant information to your answers. As a Scotsman who voted for independence you views and comments do not represent us Scots on here. " Oooofftt now telling me to shut up nae thanks | |||
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"No the UK didnt vote Tory Again England voted a Tory majority Scotland voted for a SNP majority Wales voted for a Labour majority NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland Yes you anti Scottish!!!!! The UK did vote Tory. Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening? Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland? " Fucking hell your piss poor Again England voted for a majority of Tories mps Scotland voted dor a majority of SNP mps Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps Where am i lying ? Ah so because they aint said it means they wont so it now ? The Tories said they wouldnt cut child tax credits but they did infact want too correct ? | |||
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"No the UK didnt vote Tory Again England voted a Tory majority Scotland voted for a SNP majority Wales voted for a Labour majority NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland Yes you anti Scottish!!!!! The UK did vote Tory. Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening? Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland? Fucking hell your piss poor Again England voted for a majority of Tories mps Scotland voted dor a majority of SNP mps Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps Where am i lying ? Ah so because they aint said it means they wont so it now ? The Tories said they wouldnt cut child tax credits but they did infact want too correct ? " You are paranoid. No party has taken one single power from Scotland in the last 20 years, yet you are shitting your pants believing that they will, despite the fact that not one single mainstream party has ever suggested doing so. | |||
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"No the UK didnt vote Tory Again England voted a Tory majority Scotland voted for a SNP majority Wales voted for a Labour majority NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland Yes you anti Scottish!!!!! The UK did vote Tory. Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening? Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland? Fucking hell your piss poor Again England voted for a majority of Tories mps Scotland voted dor a majority of SNP mps Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps Where am i lying ? Ah so because they aint said it means they wont so it now ? The Tories said they wouldnt cut child tax credits but they did infact want too correct ? You are paranoid. No party has taken one single power from Scotland in the last 20 years, yet you are shitting your pants believing that they will, despite the fact that not one single mainstream party has ever suggested doing so." Oh CLCC England voted for a majority of Tories mps Scotland voted for a majority of SNP mps Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps Where am i lying ? Did brexit happen in those 20 years ? And yes i notice tou worded that like Fabio I asked what makes yous trust the Tories to not take devolved powers away from Holyrood ? I gave you an example of the Tories lying when they said they wouldnt cut child tax credits So why believe trust them ? | |||
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"No the UK didnt vote Tory Again England voted a Tory majority Scotland voted for a SNP majority Wales voted for a Labour majority NI voted for DUP and Sinn Fein do not sit at Westminster See your saying you dont care about Scotland and the devolved powers so you wouldnt care about the Tories taking devolved powers away from Scotland Yes you anti Scottish!!!!! The UK did vote Tory. Why are you talking about this purely hypothetical situation as if it were actually happening? Can you name one mainstream party who has called to remove powers from Scotland? Fucking hell your piss poor Again England voted for a majority of Tories mps Scotland voted dor a majority of SNP mps Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps Where am i lying ? Ah so because they aint said it means they wont so it now ? The Tories said they wouldnt cut child tax credits but they did infact want too correct ? You are paranoid. No party has taken one single power from Scotland in the last 20 years, yet you are shitting your pants believing that they will, despite the fact that not one single mainstream party has ever suggested doing so. Oh CLCC England voted for a majority of Tories mps Scotland voted for a majority of SNP mps Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps Where am i lying ? Did brexit happen in those 20 years ? And yes i notice tou worded that like Fabio I asked what makes yous trust the Tories to not take devolved powers away from Holyrood ? I gave you an example of the Tories lying when they said they wouldnt cut child tax credits So why believe trust them ?" Tory MPs come from Scotland, Wales and England, and are supported by the DUP. Westminster politics isn't determined by majority in Scotland, England, Wales and NI. You really should know that by now. Why are you shitting your pants? The Tories haven't said that they are going to take any powers at all. | |||
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"Yes there is a minority of Scottish Tory branch mps But again England voted for a majority of Tories mps Scotland voted for a majority of SNP mps Wales voted for a majority of Labour mps Where am i lying? Lmao the Tories said they werent going to cut child tax credits that was a lie correct ?" It makes not the blindest bit of difference because that is NOT how it works. Can you name one single act of Parliament that was voted one but only Welsh MPs or only Scottish MPs? I don't believe that any party would make major constitutional change without it being in a manifesto, and even if they did, it wouldn't pass the house of lords. You keep shitting your pants though if that's what makes you happy. | |||
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"Look we all know devoultion was a con to stop independence But devolved powers should be respected and for all 111 powers to stay in Holyrood " No powers are leaving! | |||
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"From the BBC interesting wording "UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh" So what do they mean by Edinbrugh ? It that Holyrood or the Scottish office where Mundell is Oh wait none of you would even thinkto challenge that yoon love to be telt from their masters in London " ffs.... that is a cherrypicked quote, if you are going to be selective then don't be disingenious.... the actual quote, because they were talking about ALL the devolved governments... "UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh, BELFAST AND CARDIFF" nice of you to leave out the last 3 words to try and make a point that doesn't really need to be made.... | |||
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"charming... not even going to admit they fiddled the quotes... that low....... even for you!!!!" Who is they ? My wife is not in this debate duh!!! Charming not gonna answer so Fabio is it Holyrood or the Scottish office these vast majority of powers going to ? | |||
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"Look we all know devoultion was a con to stop independence But devolved powers should be respected and for all 111 powers to stay in Holyrood " Well, in principle, I'd agree but take the fishing policy- doesn't apply to other boats than Scotland's so doesn't exclude them, only Scottish ones- but would Westminster continue the Scottish policy or not? | |||
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"So Fabio can you be 100% that when they say the vast majority of powers will go to Edinburgh do they mean Holyrood or the Scottish office ? I get it none of think of these things and wont challenge these things just are happy to be telt from the London masters " yes he meant Edinburgh (holyrood), Cardiff (the welsh assembly) and Belfast (Stormont/ N.I assembly) | |||
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"So Fabio can you be 100% that when they say the vast majority of powers will go to Edinburgh do they mean Holyrood or the Scottish office ? I get it none of think of these things and wont challenge these things just are happy to be telt from the London masters yes he meant Edinburgh (holyrood), Cardiff (the welsh assembly) and Belfast (Stormont/ N.I assembly)" Really and you know this 100% for sure ? What has lead you to believe this ? | |||
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"So Fabio can you be 100% that when they say the vast majority of powers will go to Edinburgh do they mean Holyrood or the Scottish office ? I get it none of think of these things and wont challenge these things just are happy to be telt from the London masters yes he meant Edinburgh (holyrood), Cardiff (the welsh assembly) and Belfast (Stormont/ N.I assembly) Really and you know this 100% for sure ? What has lead you to believe this ? " because there are civil servants that i personally know that are working on all those projects.... thats how i know!!!! so again.... you picked and twisted and left out information in that quote to suit your own narrative and give people the wrong impression of what had been said... thats bang out of order..... I don't expect you to give an apology because thats what any decent person would do..... maybe for once, you'll prove me wrong.... | |||
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"No powers are being taken! What a bunch of scaredy cats! Shitting your pants about something that's not even happening " And you can be 100% about that ? I thought you claimed Westminster have the power to take powers away from devolved parilaments ? | |||
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"No powers are being taken! What a bunch of scaredy cats! Shitting your pants about something that's not even happening And you can be 100% about that ? I thought you claimed Westminster have the power to take powers away from devolved parilaments ? " They do, but they are not. Parliament have the power to change the state language to Vietnamese, but I'm not worried that they will. Parliament has the power to bank all but state approved haircuts like NK. But I'm not worried they will. Parliament has the power to name Scientology the state religion, but I'm not worried they will. Parliament has the power to take powers away from the Scottish Parliament, I'm not worried they will, but you are shitting your pants! | |||
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"Wow thats a fast u-turn So you claim no powers are being taken but you cannot be 100% sure of that is that correct ? " No U turn, no powers are being taken away. You have no idea what the actual topic at hand is! | |||
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"Wow thats a fast u-turn So you claim no powers are being taken but you cannot be 100% sure of that is that correct ? " Can you 100% be sure they will Mr zealot no of course you cant Stop asking stupid Hypothetical questions. Everyone else on here puts facts up with links all you do is post stupid questions | |||
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"Wow thats a fast u-turn So you claim no powers are being taken but you cannot be 100% sure of that is that correct ? Can you 100% be sure they will Mr zealot no of course you cant Stop asking stupid Hypothetical questions. Everyone else on here puts facts up with links all you do is post stupid questions " Stupid questions lmao Oh so damn well sorry for challenging this shit i should just shut the fuck up and just let it happen eh lol You may want to bow for your masters but here in Scotland we have baws lol | |||
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"The Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland. Can anyone 100% guaranteed that that won't happen? " Come on Kinky, can you be sure? | |||
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"The Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland. Can anyone 100% guaranteed that that won't happen? Come on Kinky, can you be sure? " SNP are closing all schools and hospitals! Shit your pants and run for the hills! | |||
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"And it's good night from me " Goodnight sweet dreams or wet dreams lol | |||
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"Then we have Red Tory (Labour) claiming Jeremy Corbyn they need to stop immigrants undercutting wages " do you have any understanding of what context he actually said that quote.... because if you did, i really... really... really don't think you would be using it..... i'll give you a chance to redeem yourself..... do you just spin or leave thing out... or just twist everything.... you have already been caught out one tonight not quoting properly and intentionally misleading people... would you like a 2nd? | |||
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"And it's good night from me " They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! | |||
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"So from the last message on part 1 Was this "as I said at the start. Westminster is supreme. They can do whatever the fuck they want. That is our constitutional arrangement" So again i will ask what makes people on here trust the Tories not to take devolved power away from Holyrood ? It would breach the Scotland Act " Kinky- is it not that EU powers are coming back to the UK and it those which are already devolved that are under scrutiny? Westminster has said in principle it doesn't object but will have an ultimate veto over anything that's agreed in devolved governments in certain areas if there is not a general consensus between the devolved areas. So the powers remain. ....but are castrated. | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them!" Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one " When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? | |||
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"Yeah Fabio it would like when Labour said " control on immigration" or that other one " British jobs for British workers " Corbyn found his own slogan to screw over EU citizens " nice try... actually no... it is part of a campaign where what was happening at the post office was they they were bring in staff from the EU and paying them much less than their Unionised colleagues....... the the campaign is two fold... 1) pay the EU casuals the same rate as the unionised workers.... 2) don't use the pay the EU casuals were getting to keep down the pay of the unionised colleagues..... if you have ever watched PMQ it is a subject he has actually brought up more than once!!! but you saw 4/5 words and once again span it deliberately out of context why do you keep lying... or trying to deliberately mislead people.... as with the other example tonight, I doubt whether you will apologise.... you should, and its bang out of order.... but i doubt you will.... why should people believe you when you get caught out and don't acknowledge your mistakes.. see... at best its misleading.... at worst its a flat out lie!!! and time and time and time again you do it!!!! why should people give you the benefit of the doubt??? | |||
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"Lmao So CLCC you cant be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers and you cant name them Or cant tell a time limit or will it be lump-sum of powers or will it be one every month or year I get it CLCC you dont like to challenge the Tories you have them as master Can you be 100% sure they wont take away powers from Holyrood ?" What powers are being taken? | |||
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"Lmao So CLCC you cant be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers and you cant name them Or cant tell a time limit or will it be lump-sum of powers or will it be one every month or year I get it CLCC you dont like to challenge the Tories you have them as master Can you be 100% sure they wont take away powers from Holyrood ? What powers are being taken? " Jesus christ can you be 100% sure they will not take back powers from Holyrood ? | |||
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"Lmao So CLCC you cant be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers and you cant name them Or cant tell a time limit or will it be lump-sum of powers or will it be one every month or year I get it CLCC you dont like to challenge the Tories you have them as master Can you be 100% sure they wont take away powers from Holyrood ? What powers are being taken? Jesus christ can you be 100% sure they will not take back powers from Holyrood ?" I am as sure that they won't as you are that the Scottish government won't close every hospital and every school in Scotland. We have has 8 years of Tory Prime Ministers. In that time, how many powers have Scotland lost? | |||
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"Lmao CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?" And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't? | |||
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"Lmao CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ? And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't? " You answered with a question mow go back and answer my questions i know they are gard but do try lol hehehehe | |||
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"Nice try Fabio at misleading people y" me misleading people..... the only person in the thread who has mislead anyone is the person who quoted this..... for the purpose of a rant,, "UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh" So what do they mean by Edinbrugh ? It that Holyrood or the Scottish office where Mundell is Oh wait none of you would even thinkto challenge that yoon love to be telt from their masters in London " when the full quote is this... which the quote relates to ALL the devolved administrations ""UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh, belfast and cardiff" so again.... was it a mistake? of which i yet have to hear an acknowledgement of.... or was it deliberate flat out lie just so you could get a dig in? | |||
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"Lmao CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ? And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't? You answered with a question mow go back and answer my questions i know they are gard but do try lol hehehehe " You haven't answered my question on this thread. You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London. You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland. You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN. You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer. The list goes on. Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something. The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone. What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do. Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above? If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs. | |||
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" Lmao the Tories said they werent going to cut child tax credits that was a lie correct ?" The SNP said they would abolish the council tax....and they didn't The SNP said they would wipe out student debt.....and it has doubled The SNP said at the last election they wouldn't raise income tax....and they raised income tax. The SNP said they would cut classroom sizes....and they've increased The SNP said they would scrap student loans.....and instead they've cut bursaries and grants, increasing the number of loans that have to be taken out. The SNP announced a £500m fund for small businesses....but hasn't given them a single penny. I've got plenty more | |||
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"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ?" You haven't answered my question on this thread. You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London. You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland. You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN. You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer. The list goes on. Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something. The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone. What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do. Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above? If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs. | |||
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"Oh Fabio mind answering these Fabio is it too hard to say Holyrood? " I am so sorry that the govt spokeperson used the 3 capitals for the 3 devolved administrations... i'll slap him down especially for you!!! my god how petty!!! seriously!!! "So Fabio did Labour use these slogans " control on immgration" and " British jobs for British workers " ? " yes they did.... do you know long ago the line "british jobs for british workers" was actually used.... (don't worry, unlike you i research the answers to the questions i pose) it was back in 2007!!!! salmond said "oil would be $120 per barrel" and "the refenedum would be a once in a generation vote" in 2015..... is that going to be hung around his and the snp's necks as long? "Am just saying Corbyn has found his own slogan by blaming immigration Labour Tory and UKIP all sick as fuck trying to blame immgration" please find me a speech where corbyn has ever blamed immigration, because I have looked up an down and i couldn't.... in fact he is about as pro immigration as labour leaders get, he may not be the most pro EU person ever, but he certainly isn't anti immigration... oh... and if you want to make slanderous accusions like that... remember the last one that did ended up a few weeks ago having to make a sizeable donation to a charity of corbyns choice... which ironically happened to be a pro immigration charity!!! now... back to mind.... so have you been misinforming people deliberately by leaving out key words in quotes???? | |||
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" So again i have to school you lol In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh" You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will. Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them... | |||
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" So again i have to school you lol In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will. Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them... " I am correct though thats what happened ? The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos | |||
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"Shut up kinky with your anti Scottish nonsense just because someone doesn't agree with you. As us Scottish say "your patter is pish". Post after post of utter garbage with everyone providing suffeciant information to your answers. As a Scotsman who voted for independence you views and comments do not represent us Scots on here. " | |||
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" So again i have to school you lol In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will. Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them... I am correct though thats what happened ? The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos " So when is it happening ??? As the posters with saint Nicola and the lovely Alex salmond stated it was unfair tax and they would get rid of it and not tinker around the edges !!! | |||
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" So again i have to school you lol In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will. Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them... I am correct though thats what happened ? The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos So when is it happening ??? As the posters with saint Nicola and the lovely Alex salmond stated it was unfair tax and they would get rid of it and not tinker around the edges !!!" Wow a Labour man with baws to ask about the council tax Greenoakmale did Scottish Labour branch join the Scottish Tory branch to vote against scrapping the council tax and because of that the SNP couldnt scrap it ? | |||
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" So again i have to school you lol In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will. Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them... I am correct though thats what happened ? The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos So when is it happening ??? As the posters with saint Nicola and the lovely Alex salmond stated it was unfair tax and they would get rid of it and not tinker around the edges !!!" i think the saddest thing in the thread is that kinky as been given the chance on 3 seperate occasions to rufute the fact they deliberately left bits out of a quote to intentionally mislead...... they haven't.... so we can only assume they basically lied to all the people reading on purpose... like i said... bang out of order | |||
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"So come on Kinky, what powers are the Tories taking, and have the Tories given powers to the Scottish Parliament or taken them away?" Right, yet ANOTHER question that kinky can't answer! | |||
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"So come on Kinky, what powers are the Tories taking, and have the Tories given powers to the Scottish Parliament or taken them away?" Fucking hell your still fucking going i thoufht you shat out last night can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take back powers from Holyrood ? And what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit ? Stop delfecting and answer these very questions that you seem shit feart to answer i wonder why lmao | |||
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"So come on Kinky, what powers are the Tories taking, and have the Tories given powers to the Scottish Parliament or taken them away? Right, yet ANOTHER question that kinky can't answer! " Still can't answer it! | |||
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"Here is the whole fucking truth try and deny it eh " i'll tell you the reason why "the truth" is so important... if you lied on purpose, which you are basically admitting to by leaving out important info from something you are quoting.... simple question why should people even believe you on anything else? whatever you post that nagging thought of "are they telling me the whole truth?" is always going to linger with you...... you have in effect undermined your own arguement and every discussion you have in future by basically lying..... you can actually help yourself by admitting to it, but like i have said, I doubt you will......... | |||
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"CLCC can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take back powers from Holyrood ? And what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit ?" I've answered these! Why ask them again? | |||
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"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ? You haven't answered my question on this thread. You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London. You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland. You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN. You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer. The list goes on. Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something. The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone. What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do. Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above? If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs." See Kinky, already answered. Now it's YOUR turn. | |||
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"CLCC can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take back powers from Holyrood ? And what new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit ? I've answered these! Why ask them again?" No you never You admitted that Westminster could steal devolved powers And am sure you will agree that you can be sure that the Tories will not take back devolved powers ? You never once answered this question qhat new powers is Scotland going to get after brexit name each one ? | |||
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"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ? You haven't answered my question on this thread. You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London. You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland. You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN. You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer. The list goes on. Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something. The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone. What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do. Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above? If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs. See Kinky, already answered. Now it's YOUR turn." We are all waiting! | |||
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"Btw Fabio Nothing to say in this ?Corbyn say " brexit must stop immigrants undercutting wages"" i answered this further up and yet again you take something out of context to twist a point that you cant twist.... it is part of a campaign where what was happening at the post office was they they were bring in staff from the EU and paying them much less than their Unionised colleagues....... the the campaign is two fold... 1) pay the EU casuals the same rate as the unionised workers.... 2) don't use the pay the EU casuals were getting to keep down the pay of the unionised colleagues..... if you have ever watched PMQ it is a subject he has actually brought up more than once!!! "I told Fabio Corbyn has found his own nasty fucking way of blaming immigrations " as i said... please find me a corbyn anti immigrant speech... because i looked thru google and honestly couldn't find one... I am not corbyns greatest fan... but that he is "anti immigrant" isn't a charge i would lay at his doorstep..... "Just like Milliband And Brown when they said " control on immigrations" " British jobs for British workers" genuine question.. how long a shelf life does a quote have when it relates to policy... because like i said and you failed to acknowledge the "british jobs for british workers" line was used in 2007.... if that line is still valid then why is the salmond "this is a once in a generation vote" said in 2015 not valid.... if you have to accept one the on in 2007 we can accept the one in 2015? agreed? remember "once in a generation"..... | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? " Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's. | |||
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"Wow Fabio you are actually defending Corbyns comments blaming immigrants for undercutting wages Even Ian Murray Scottish Labour branch mp says Nigel Farage would be very happy with Corbyn saying " Brexit must stop immigration undercutting wages" Its sick as fuck trying to blame immigrants Ah well Corbyn loses more votes in Scotland lmao The big JC the messiah is a freud! " he Certainly is ! But Beware McDonald ! I suspect he is the Power ! Very Scary ! | |||
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"Lmao ducking embarrssing Ok lets narrow it doon CLCC you said Scotlands getting new powers after brexit ok then name each new power ? Can you be 100% sure Scotland will get these new powers ? Also can tou be 100% sure the Tories will not take any devolved powers back to Westminster ? I cant see the rage i you lot shit feart to answer And what more worrying is in here people claim to vote Labour the so called party of devolution yet same people couldnt care less about devolution lmao Anti Scottish people on here " I'm not anti Scotish just Pro English , let's both have our Independence / Freedom ! Snag is if the English had a National party like the SNP ie an ENP You can bet a years Wages it would be Instantly accused of been Racist ! | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's." How many more times do I need to post the answers? | |||
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"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ? You haven't answered my question on this thread. You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London. You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland. You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN. You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer. The list goes on. Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something. The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone. What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do. Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above? If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs. See Kinky, already answered. Now it's YOUR turn. We are all waiting! " Kinky getting schooled again! | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's. How many more times do I need to post the answers? " At least once more by the looks of it! | |||
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"Lmao CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't? " Bump! | |||
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"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ? You haven't answered my question on this thread. You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London. You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland. You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN. You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer. The list goes on. Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something. The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone. What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do. Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above? If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs. See Kinky, already answered. Now it's YOUR turn. We are all waiting! Kinky getting schooled again! " Oh look, I HAVE answered it here | |||
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"Lmao CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't? Bump! " So how is kinky sure that the Scottish government won't close all the schools and hospitals???? | |||
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"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ? You haven't answered my question on this thread. You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London. You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland. You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN. You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer. The list goes on. Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something. The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone. What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do. Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above? If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs. See Kinky, already answered. Now it's YOUR turn. We are all waiting! Kinky getting schooled again! Oh look, I HAVE answered it here" Is this post invisible to Kinky? | |||
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"Lmao CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? And the Scottish government have the power to close every hospital and every school in Scotland, so what makes you sure they won't? Bump! So how is kinky sure that the Scottish government won't close all the schools and hospitals????" | |||
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"CLCC you said Westminster have the power to take back powers from Holyrood so what makes you so sure they wont ? Has brexit ever happened before in the 20 years of devolution ? You haven't answered my question on this thread. You haven't answered if Cambridge should have as many MPs as London. You haven't answered how islanders will have as much say as mainlanders in an independent Scotland. You haven't answered how many ships are being built on the Clyde for the RN. You haven't answered the question about how you would vote in an indepence referendum which would leave Scotland £40bn a year poorer. The list goes on. Like I have said, Parliament is supreme, they can do what ever they want, but just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they WILL do something. The police COULD pick your door down and arrest you for murder, but I don't think they will, because I assume that you haven't murdered anyone. What makes me so sure the Tories won't take any powers from Scotland? The fact they haven't put any manifesto commitment to do so. The fact they have granted Scotland more powers in the last 8 years. The fact they haven't taken any powers in the last 8 years. The fact that they would have to legislate to do so, and have frankly got more important things to do. Right, so now that's answered, how about you answer the questions mentioned above? If you haven't got the balls, then perhaps we should start asking your Mrs. See Kinky, already answered. Now it's YOUR turn. We are all waiting! Kinky getting schooled again! Oh look, I HAVE answered it here Is this post invisible to Kinky? " It must be invisible. Either that or kinky is just trolling. | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's. How many more times do I need to post the answers? At least once more by the looks of it!" Oh look, already answered! | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's. How many more times do I need to post the answers? At least once more by the looks of it! Oh look, already answered!" Can kinky read? | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's. How many more times do I need to post the answers? At least once more by the looks of it! Oh look, already answered! Can kinky read? " I guess they can't! | |||
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"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ? " Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot You are the worst kind of poster on here You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth You just switch all the time There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up. You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab. The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party. Again you are a Zealot | |||
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"And it's good night from me They are fucking nuts, they don't even realise that Scotland is getting more powers because of Brexit, they think they are getting powers taken away from them! Ah now interesting you bring this up So can you name these so called " new powers" Scotland is getting because of brexit Go on name them all one by one When the Brexit negotiations are completely, then you'll find out. So has it finally dawned on you that Scotland isn't actually losing any powers? Again, kinky's questions are answered, but refusing to answer anyone else's. How many more times do I need to post the answers? At least once more by the looks of it! Oh look, already answered! Can kinky read? I guess they can't! " Or maybe neither of them understand it! Maybe they can't comprehend that until we know which agencies and policies we are staying in, no one know which powers are remaining in Brussels, and which are returning. | |||
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"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ? Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot You are the worst kind of poster on here You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth You just switch all the time There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up. You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab. The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party. Again you are a Zealot " Ok what an i wrong on ? Double standards on here CLCC demands i answer hin but when i ask a question to his statement no answer Yes there is a Scottish forum are you telling me i am not welcome on this fourm ? Oh ps i dont need a wee gang to back me up lol | |||
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"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ? Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot You are the worst kind of poster on here You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth You just switch all the time There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up. You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab. The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party. Again you are a Zealot Ok what an i wrong on ? Double standards on here CLCC demands i answer hin but when i ask a question to his statement no answer Yes there is a Scottish forum are you telling me i am not welcome on this fourm ? Oh ps i dont need a wee gang to back me up lol" You obviously cannot read mate again deflection You cant even understand the point of the Scottish forum As for CLCC,FABIO, or anyone else they have answered all your questions tenfold But you never seem to answer any question on here. Again google Zealot read the description of a Zealot and I defy you to deny that its a perfect description of you. | |||
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"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ? Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot You are the worst kind of poster on here You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth You just switch all the time There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up. You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab. The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party. Again you are a Zealot " There's one less who will back them up. One of them left last week after being shown up for their bigotry. | |||
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"Yes i can CLCC can you ? As you still havent named one single new power that Scotland you believe is getting after brexit So here is your chance just name one single new power that Holyrood is getting after brexit ? Kinky do you even know you are a Zealot You are the worst kind of poster on here You dont have the good grace to admit when you are wrong even when you have been shown the truth You just switch all the time There is a Scottish forum on Fab but apart from you and maybe 3 others max no Scotish people come on to back you up. You accuse Fabio of being anti Scottish !!!! Even tho Fabio is probably the most reasoned and level poster on all forums on Fab. The only person on here anti anything is you ANTI ENGLISH You cant even find one thing wrong with the SNP !!!!! that has to be a first the only person in the history of politics that has not one bad thing to say about its prefered party. Again you are a Zealot There's one less who will back them up. One of them left last week after being shown up for their bigotry." So what are you suggesting? I hope your not saying people on here and ganging up to bully people into leaving | |||
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"This forum is definatly getting increasingly left wing Pro Labour !" actually.... me personally... i am not as pro right wing as TM's conservative party... and i am not as pro left wing as Corbyn would like his labour party to be.... but i am one pro thing.... I am pro TRUTH.... and pro FACT;-) and that is where kinky falls down... so if people deliberately lie... like kinky did in this thread or deliberately mislead people... like kinky did in this thread or deliberately take words out of quote or context.... like kinky did in this thread then i will call out ANYONE.... I don't care... if you cant resepct the facts or the truth, then what is the point! | |||
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" So again i have to school you lol In 2007 yes the SNP put in their manifesto to scrap the council tax they were elected as a minority government so when the debate and vote in scrapping the council tax came Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch both voted against scrapping the council tax Amazing the amount of people tvat leave the whole truth out eh You couldn't school a 3 year old (please tell me you don't have children btw ). If something was considered unfair, such as the council tax, then you'd scrap it the first chane you got but the SNP never and they never will. Now about those other broken promises, I notice you ignored them... I am correct though thats what happened ? The SNP never put scrapping the council tax i their 2011, 2016 manifestos So when is it happening ??? As the posters with saint Nicola and the lovely Alex salmond stated it was unfair tax and they would get rid of it and not tinker around the edges !!! Wow a Labour man with baws to ask about the council tax Greenoakmale did Scottish Labour branch join the Scottish Tory branch to vote against scrapping the council tax and because of that the SNP couldnt scrap it ?" The snp have had a majority so why did they need labour or any other support ??? | |||
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"No point in arguing with this bigoted zealot. They are too ignorant of the subject at hand to have any kind of conversation with. They repeatedly ask the same question, and completely ignore the answers given. I don't think they understand how a forum works." How can they be a Biggited Zealot when they Support English Independence ? I like them . | |||
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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh " I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system. As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!! So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing. With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!! | |||
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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system. As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!! So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing. With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!!" Did even bother to answer any of my question try again | |||
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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system. As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!! So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing. With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!! Did even bother to answer any of my question try again " Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre. Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want. Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions. At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in. How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread. You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded. | |||
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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system. As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!! So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing. With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!! Did even bother to answer any of my question try again Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre. Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want. Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions. At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in. How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread. You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded." Whatever you say chief lol | |||
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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system. As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!! So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing. With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!! Did even bother to answer any of my question try again Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre. Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want. Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions. At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in. How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread. You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded." We don't agree on much, but we agree on this. | |||
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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system. As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!! So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing. With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!! Did even bother to answer any of my question try again Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre. Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want. Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions. At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in. How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread. You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded." We don't agree on much, but we agree on this. | |||
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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system. As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!! So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing. With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!! Did even bother to answer any of my question try again Your a funny old fucker aren't you, demanding answers from people left right and centre. Those people then answer and you ignore it completely as the answer doesn't suit the one you want. Personally I don't think anyone should answer any of your demanding questions. At least until you answer all the bloody questions you have been asked in this thread and the dozen or so other threads you have failed to answer questions in. How about admitting the lies and deflections you have been accused of in this thread. You see conspiracies against Scotland everywhere mate you are deluded. We don't agree on much, but we agree on this." Actually you would be surprised at how much we do agree on. Just most of the time you have posted very eloquently and with expert knowledge there is no need for me to post. Plus I like to lurk and learn, there are a lot of very knowledgeable people that post in this forum. | |||
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"Fabio pro truth and you never lie eh Ok lets test that Fabio 1.Westminster have the power to take powers away from devolved parilaments ?" they could do it... but they would have to repeal BOTH the scotland act AND the devolution act, which would not only take away ALL the national assemblies, it would take away all the "region deals" as well.. such as west midland, greater manchester, london, ect... there is no way on gods green the tories would have take many votes to win that vote!!!! and before you want to spin what i say.... THERE IS NO WAY THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE THAT MANY VOTES TO WIN THAT VOTE... THEY WOULD NEED THE SUPPORT OF "REGIONAL PARTIES" IT WOULD BE A CASE OF SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT! "2. Can you be 100% sure the Tories will not take any devolved powers back to Westminster?" again in the 20 years this has been going so far no UK government has taken away ANY devolved power...... the last uk govenrment have had the last 7 years to take away powers if they wanted to..... as of april.... this uk government are giving the scottish administration a whole new bunch of devolved powers...... so why go thru all that if they were really going to take them away!!!!! you aren't paranoid... you are "next level" paranoid "3. What new powers is Scotland getting after brexit name each one ?" there are 111 powers the EU have that will be coming back on brexit leave day.... at the moment my colleagues in the civil service are working on 84 of them being devolved to them and LEAVE DAY PLUS 1..... again... just so you don't spin...84 NEW POWERS OF POLICY ON LEAVE DAY PLUS ONE..... for example... a whole load of european set enviromental rules will be given straight to the devolved administrations... "4. What time limit is there in getting these new powers after brexit ?" as i said... 84 of them will be given to you on leave day plus 1..... "Now lets see you Fabio answer all 4 truthfully Now no skipping answer all of them answered oh wise Fabio " I think i did.... but lets not you or me decide that.... let the people of the thread decide..... if i told the truth... please just say i did... if i haven't ... say i have deceived kinky.... | |||
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"Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? Look closer to hame and ask yourself why did Scottish Labour branch vote against scrapping the council tax? Instead of having the cheek to point the finger at others eh I am against scrapping the council tax until I see a new fairer system. As yet the snp have not come up with anything better !!! So they put up billboards all over the country with sturgeon and salmond looking for the countries vote to get rid of the council tax but have done nothing. With the green lap dogs they could get something through parliment right now !!! Did even bother to answer any of my question try again " I did aswer !!!! | |||
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"From the BBC interesting wording "UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh" So what do they mean by Edinbrugh ? It that Holyrood or the Scottish office where Mundell is Oh wait none of you would even thinkto challenge that yoon love to be telt from their masters in London ffs.... that is a cherrypicked quote, if you are going to be selective then don't be disingenious.... the actual quote, because they were talking about ALL the devolved governments... "UK govt publishing where it thinks powers should go after Brexit. Says it wants to hold on to 24 in devolved areas to protect UK market; including food labelling, food safety, animal health and chemical regulation. Says vast majority will go to Edinburgh, BELFAST AND CARDIFF" nice of you to leave out the last 3 words to try and make a point that doesn't really need to be made...." Fabio I have quoted the same thing until I am blue in the face. No politician has made a statement or has there been any papers produced to say the UK government want to change anything. If you read the right papers in Scotland that make up the grievances as they go along. Obviously kinky is just parroting the paranoid pish he reads in the Sunday Herald ..wings and the national. | |||
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"Ok Greenoakmalw where was the answers to theses questions "Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? " What was gonna be the replacement for the council tax ??? What ever the proposed replacement was and I admit i have no idea what was proposed was it worth supporting? ?? | |||
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"Ok Greenoakmalw where was the answers to theses questions "Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? What was gonna be the replacement for the council tax ??? What ever the proposed replacement was and I admit i have no idea what was proposed was it worth supporting? ??" Still not answered my two questions Try again "Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? | |||
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"Ok Greenoakmalw where was the answers to theses questions "Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? What was gonna be the replacement for the council tax ??? What ever the proposed replacement was and I admit i have no idea what was proposed was it worth supporting? ?? Still not answered my two questions Try again "Greenoakmale you ready to admit Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tory branch voted against scrapping the council tax ? Also am guessing you mean 2011 SNP majority they didnt put it in their manifesto correct ? " Before scrapping anything there would have to been a proposal for the replacement !!! So tell me what was the soooper dooooper replacement gonna be ???? | |||
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"thought i would get this in before kinky uses the excuse of the thread closing to not answer.. kinky still has not denied deliberately misleading people by leaving words out of a quote... has still not denied knowing lying in posts.. has still not denied taking quotes out of context... just notice what they will do is in fact just keep pointing questions at people but fail to answer those pointed at them.... i bet this is what they will do exactly after i post this..... " Ok Fabio i aint misleading or lying Oh and would you stop bring my wife into this Its the male half so stop with the "they" bullshit Not my fault you want this shit buried so no one sees the truth Oh boohoo your wee beloved UK aint all its cracked up too be eh lol | |||
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" Ok Fabio i aint misleading or lying Oh and would you stop bring my wife into this Its the male half so stop with the "they" bullshit Not my fault you want this shit buried so no one sees the truth Oh boohoo your wee beloved UK aint all its cracked up too be eh lol " i am so glad that i get to end this on 175.... although i almost positive somewhere in the "land of kinky" THEY (and i come back to that in a moment) probably have left this open so "THEY" can have the last word..... a few things.... a) normally if you put down things that you have been corrected on or mislead people, you make a correction or acknowledge the fact you made a mistake.... funny enough, you did neither!!! "so do you acknowledge you left words out of a quote to mislead people....." (actually scrap that... you wont! i already know the answer!!!) b) in your grammar rant over the word "they" being used... funny enough you are once again wrong as it CAN be used as a singular if I don't want to use he or she..... my source... the oxford english dictionary... (tried looking for a glasgow/eninburgh/perth/aberdeen version.. couldn't find one!) "it has become common in speech and in informal writing to substitute the third-person plural pronouns they, them, their, and themselves" third person... so he .. or she... or in your case, paranoid nationalistic weirdo.... and on that note... i bid you, adieu! | |||
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